Great move. Definitely requires some practice for me personally though, as I´m quite lightweight; I tend to lose my balance when I posture while doing this move. Better for me if I work to this slowly.
I think going to mount or sidecontrol from this position is usually more straightforward, but it's nice to mix it up with something that isn't expected (like this move) from time to time.
Love pulling one off though. There is something about rolling into a position that feels slick.
The twister looks exactly like what we called a guillotine in wrestling. You go about getting in that position differently than we did but let me tell you, that is one painful move! I'm sure its a great submission, didn't work well for pinning an opponent but got lots of back points.
Why go for the neck crank when you could just go for the calf crank? In the truck position wouldn't the calf crank be easier since an experienced player would know not to give up his arm like that?
Highly impressed with the quality of the videos and the instruction. Thank you so much for posting these videos. I am sure at times it must get discouraging posting these and getting negative/trolling comments. Please continue with more, I greatly appreciate it.
@borayongacoglu that is what we refer to it in the 10th Planet system and what Eddie calls it. I have no doubt that others have different definitions for moves.
@Submissions101 if thats what you guys call 1/4 guard then what do you call a real 1/4 guard? by the way this move is completely unrealistic and would be near impossible to perform. after you successfully roll them but before you secure their other foot or back of the head they can easily keep rolling with it to reverse position and end up in your 1/2 guard pause at 0:56. there is absolutely nothing preventing him from switching his shoulders and taking top position.
@forbesfoofighters The 'truth' by your inference, means that what you speak is true and what we (or others speak or believe) is false. I can tell you that I have seen this done many times, done it many times and been caught in it too. It depends on how you train and what you train in. I love how people criticize without every doing the move. I see this lots. Sure, not all move work all the time on all people but this ain't fantasy to be sure. Go visit Eddie at his school and see what's possible
@forbesfoofighters I'm not a 10th Planet member but I can vouch for that and all the other moves I have ever tried from the 10th Planet system. It seems like the only people that talk crap about it are those that have never attempted any of the moves. Thanks Submissions101, your videos are a great resource keep up the good work!
For all those worried about neck cranks and calf-crushers being illegal...the thing about the entering into the twister (and by default, the Truck), is that you have an excellent control position that does not require you to take the twister spine-lock. I train BJJ with the gi as well, and I love using the twister roll, DeSouza control, Ford/Dodge, etc. to get back control. When you're in the Truck and the twister, the back is just a step or two away
I agree...it is just a submission. i have NEVER heard a 10th Planet guy say the twister is the best.-EVER. The twister is just one of many submission out there in the world of grappling. Too many mis informed people out there about 10th Planet
I did this move for the first time in training the other day after months of waiting for someone to get quarter guard. I was well chuffed with myself. This truly is a beautiful technique.
yeah me too i think its even easier because he will try to distract u from crancing his neck with his arm if u cant trap it good enough.but i love this move when im rolling with beginners cauze they end up in quarter most more often then others
thats why you need to practice it. Start practicing on lower level guys during live rolls. The worst that can happen is you lose your quarter guard mount and end up in a neutral position.
i did it to my friend today. but what i didnt realize was the he was actually in half guard instead of quarter. so i guess i figured you could do it from your oppenets half guard.
very good demos here, guys. The explanations are clear and you do a pretty good job of showing all the little details - that are hard to catch on camera sometimes!
okay try this then.... Get quarter guard, do the figure 4 like he has it... but grab the other foot, not the one used fo the twister but the one that is locked in. but roll over ur shoulder near his legs, and it is a calf crunch/double calf crunch. you place ur heel on his heel and push up while pullin his leg down. Legal in Naga Grap quest etc... be careful it hurts.
ju-jitsu looks better then so many other arts. Its basicaly common knowledge turned into pratice. Alot more useful for self defence aswel. Im going to take classes when i get the time.
Good video, five stars. Couldn't It be more simple attack the free leg after the shoulder rolling? You could grab and pull the free leg, at the same time you push the other opponent's leg with your legs.
This is a Sambo technique.
P.S.
Sorry for my terrible english and a big hello from Rome, Italy
After you roll over your shoulder (in MMA of course) would it be more effective to drop downward elbows to the ribs or to go for the Twister/take the back?
A quick calf crank just after hooking, left arm goes around his right ankle, right arm shoots under his right thigh then s-grip? roll on right shoulder maybe? Still trying to work on the twister...key word "trying"
Really? That is what we call it. What is your understanding of a quarter guard? WE realize that some people have the same names for different positions. This position is what Eddie Bravo calls it and we learned it from him.
the other quarter guard is a hybrid of maybe half guard and hook similar to spider guard. Its more of a gi thing, BUT some people are doing it in no gi.
It's just the first step for the person on bottom to work to half guard. It's one mount escape. I kind of like it for someone that has a really good base and is hard to roll over.
I guess this video implies that there is some advantage to using quarter-guard, but I'm pretty unfamiliar with it; could you do a vid about what you can actually do from that position?
great vid. completed unrelated but looking through your vids for attacking the home alone position from my gaurd. Hes sitting in defense posture doing nothing but waiting in EB's home alone. many thanks and keep posting.
This is great! Do you see anything wrong with doing the calf crank from top instead of rolling into the truck? Or are you to precarious with your legs triangled? I guess theirs a chance of being punched. I'll try it tomorrow just thought I'd check.
Where are the haters now?
lilsm555 10 months ago
10th planet and submission 101 for life! my students love this system and love eddie bravo
HomasterX 11 months ago
what does this submission do to you
davebb100 11 months ago
Great move. Definitely requires some practice for me personally though, as I´m quite lightweight; I tend to lose my balance when I posture while doing this move. Better for me if I work to this slowly.
I think going to mount or sidecontrol from this position is usually more straightforward, but it's nice to mix it up with something that isn't expected (like this move) from time to time.
Love pulling one off though. There is something about rolling into a position that feels slick.
Zevvion 1 year ago
From the truck position, can you transition to some like stoner control or the electric chair and start working some of those half guard sweeps?
tdickey4288 1 year ago
The twister looks exactly like what we called a guillotine in wrestling. You go about getting in that position differently than we did but let me tell you, that is one painful move! I'm sure its a great submission, didn't work well for pinning an opponent but got lots of back points.
Sleezyfosheezie 1 year ago
just learned a similar move except we take the back from the "samurai" roll
moschetty 1 year ago
this is great
SwaxMedia 1 year ago
this videos are pretty informative and just plain awesome to me. i wish i had some money and know-how of where to go. i live in ohio by the way.
MrP1nk92 1 year ago
nice,I like it ..great job!!!!!!!
mmilos11 1 year ago
very slick. I like the fact you can also get the back. Great videos guys.
sgoodwin33 1 year ago
Awesome. I especially love the ability to get the back from here. Keep up the good work with the videos. They are some of the best around.
sgoodwin33 1 year ago
OMG I always get stuck in quarter guard!
Scouserrrr08 1 year ago
Doesnt anybody else think that names of the bjj moves are realy funny, if you dont know the move, you will have no idea what is it about.
MursuTheMan 1 year ago
Why go for the neck crank when you could just go for the calf crank? In the truck position wouldn't the calf crank be easier since an experienced player would know not to give up his arm like that?
M00B0X 1 year ago
@M00B0X a nice combo is to go for the calf crank first, and then if they defend it with their hands, you can grab their arm and go to the twister.
seanw25 1 year ago
Highly impressed with the quality of the videos and the instruction. Thank you so much for posting these videos. I am sure at times it must get discouraging posting these and getting negative/trolling comments. Please continue with more, I greatly appreciate it.
slugsvomit 1 year ago
ari, that's not the quarter guard.
borayongacoglu 1 year ago
@borayongacoglu that is what we refer to it in the 10th Planet system and what Eddie calls it. I have no doubt that others have different definitions for moves.
Submissions101 1 year ago 3
@Submissions101 if thats what you guys call 1/4 guard then what do you call a real 1/4 guard? by the way this move is completely unrealistic and would be near impossible to perform. after you successfully roll them but before you secure their other foot or back of the head they can easily keep rolling with it to reverse position and end up in your 1/2 guard pause at 0:56. there is absolutely nothing preventing him from switching his shoulders and taking top position.
forbesfoofighters 1 year ago
@forbesfoofighters Yeah and it seems like everyone on here is agreeing with u? Oh wait theyre not!
wirybigstef 1 year ago
@forbesfoofighters i strongly suggest you watch UFN 24 Sung - Garcia and never talk crap again
Lopez1986 10 months ago
@Submissions101 don't discard my comment either please, i only speak the truth.
forbesfoofighters 1 year ago
@forbesfoofighters The 'truth' by your inference, means that what you speak is true and what we (or others speak or believe) is false. I can tell you that I have seen this done many times, done it many times and been caught in it too. It depends on how you train and what you train in. I love how people criticize without every doing the move. I see this lots. Sure, not all move work all the time on all people but this ain't fantasy to be sure. Go visit Eddie at his school and see what's possible
Submissions101 1 year ago 6
@forbesfoofighters I'm not a 10th Planet member but I can vouch for that and all the other moves I have ever tried from the 10th Planet system. It seems like the only people that talk crap about it are those that have never attempted any of the moves. Thanks Submissions101, your videos are a great resource keep up the good work!
nelson5463500 1 year ago
quarter guard ? omg.
faabiow 1 year ago
lol the twister
fightcore001 1 year ago
is the samurai exclusive to the 10th planet or is it from bjj and just got named?
DikkiSeamen 1 year ago
Never fail to impress guys :)
blitzr0809 1 year ago
For all those worried about neck cranks and calf-crushers being illegal...the thing about the entering into the twister (and by default, the Truck), is that you have an excellent control position that does not require you to take the twister spine-lock. I train BJJ with the gi as well, and I love using the twister roll, DeSouza control, Ford/Dodge, etc. to get back control. When you're in the Truck and the twister, the back is just a step or two away
getthetapjj 1 year ago
I agree...it is just a submission. i have NEVER heard a 10th Planet guy say the twister is the best.-EVER. The twister is just one of many submission out there in the world of grappling. Too many mis informed people out there about 10th Planet
Submissions101 1 year ago 15
these dudes are badass.......i wanna train with them......then crush G.S.P....
illestinthehead 1 year ago
you guy's are awesome!
maynnor 2 years ago
maybe in submission wrestling, but in a real UFC fight i would probably go ground n pound
spiffyhunkofeces 2 years ago
WOW people are really creative when it comes to exploiting muscle strains and joints. Its amazing that there are so many submissions.
iknowhowtobenerd 2 years ago
My friend always make this grip, now I have the solution to finish the combat. Thanks Ari Bolden...
seronepk 2 years ago
u can also do a banana crank from that position at 1min
ispyanaznguy 2 years ago
lol baseball bat control
Submission7 2 years ago
wow damn i love 10 planet
tito93637 2 years ago
why is it called the samurai? Quarter guard is a lot common counter for the mount..
redcapKO 2 years ago
I did this move for the first time in training the other day after months of waiting for someone to get quarter guard. I was well chuffed with myself. This truly is a beautiful technique.
wildboarm 2 years ago 3
i love jiu jitsu
animeandfinalfantasy 2 years ago
i love dis move but u knw wat else u can do after you roll an trap the leg, u can go for a banana split, i did it and it rocked!!
kickass305 2 years ago
yeah me too i think its even easier because he will try to distract u from crancing his neck with his arm if u cant trap it good enough.but i love this move when im rolling with beginners cauze they end up in quarter most more often then others
tcgodzarmy 2 years ago
banana splits must hurt for boys lol
ilovehorses789 2 years ago
i dont think i would ever pull this off unless it was a mistake aha. sick move tho
WatchMeDropem 2 years ago 2
thats why you need to practice it. Start practicing on lower level guys during live rolls. The worst that can happen is you lose your quarter guard mount and end up in a neutral position.
ThanMurphy 2 years ago
i did it to my friend today. but what i didnt realize was the he was actually in half guard instead of quarter. so i guess i figured you could do it from your oppenets half guard.
AjaxHammer6 2 years ago
OH MY GOD!!!!! what the fuck else need so to be said. NASTY!!!!!
otherong 2 years ago
very good demos here, guys. The explanations are clear and you do a pretty good job of showing all the little details - that are hard to catch on camera sometimes!
Much better quality than most I see on youtube.
5/5
mdiem 2 years ago
okay try this then.... Get quarter guard, do the figure 4 like he has it... but grab the other foot, not the one used fo the twister but the one that is locked in. but roll over ur shoulder near his legs, and it is a calf crunch/double calf crunch. you place ur heel on his heel and push up while pullin his leg down. Legal in Naga Grap quest etc... be careful it hurts.
sexy14487 2 years ago
ju-jitsu looks better then so many other arts. Its basicaly common knowledge turned into pratice. Alot more useful for self defence aswel. Im going to take classes when i get the time.
thegman2 2 years ago 2
It takes about three years of classes for Jujitsu to become instinct... however you can still use the knowledge before then ofc
12monkey1212 2 years ago
Good video, five stars. Couldn't It be more simple attack the free leg after the shoulder rolling? You could grab and pull the free leg, at the same time you push the other opponent's leg with your legs.
This is a Sambo technique.
P.S.
Sorry for my terrible english and a big hello from Rome, Italy
bfedkjwerfegregfrerg 2 years ago
After you roll over your shoulder (in MMA of course) would it be more effective to drop downward elbows to the ribs or to go for the Twister/take the back?
NextMessiah 2 years ago
Im just wondering how effective is the quarter gaud in MMA?
mrmangoboy 2 years ago
think of the quarter guard as an in between stage (trying to get to half guard). Not the strongest position for the bottom player
Submissions101 2 years ago
yea banana split or spladle...in wrestlin we call this a geitine...it hurts like crazy
ridinelement4lyfe 2 years ago
is the twister illegal in ibjjf for white belts?
geno185 2 years ago
yes it is illegal. it is a neck crank.
spleenbuster 2 years ago
There are MANY competitions where neck cranks are legal as are leg locks. Not everyone does IBJJF rules.
Submissions101 2 years ago
but the poster specifically asked about IBJJF.
spleenbuster 2 years ago
I didn't see you reply to the actual post ;-) my bad
Submissions101 2 years ago
no worries. i cant quite see what is going on with the legs, but i like this technique very much. i would like to learn it.
spleenbuster 2 years ago
I am still drilling common basics in BJJ, so I have not done this yet; cheers for the info :-)
batjutsu 2 years ago
awesome sweep i just tried it on my room mate works well
judassss 2 years ago
great vid, lots of options after hooking..thanks agian guys!
n8radamus 2 years ago
A quick calf crank just after hooking, left arm goes around his right ankle, right arm shoots under his right thigh then s-grip? roll on right shoulder maybe? Still trying to work on the twister...key word "trying"
n8radamus 2 years ago
I first saw Eddie do this in Toronto of last year
the whole class went ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh and haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.
5190 2 years ago
Hmm good technique but you can't call that the quarter guard. The quarter guard already exist.. for a long time. Its a completely different position.
monji112000 2 years ago
Really? That is what we call it. What is your understanding of a quarter guard? WE realize that some people have the same names for different positions. This position is what Eddie Bravo calls it and we learned it from him.
Submissions101 2 years ago
the other quarter guard is a hybrid of maybe half guard and hook similar to spider guard. Its more of a gi thing, BUT some people are doing it in no gi.
monji112000 2 years ago
looks like you can also work calf crusher from that.
nigel702 2 years ago
only danger is the small window of opportunity for your opponent to take your back.
sczhdtaivfe 2 years ago
Would you say striking them (elbows etc) as they turn would be a better option?
ononorthey 2 years ago
nice!
Avalon365 2 years ago
hey this is kind of rubish okkk!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
rabi3z 2 years ago
nice one Ari! I utilize quarter guard all the time! I'll have to be careful no to get caught by this.
NoTeefa 2 years ago
i want the destroyer arm lock dammit ;)
tinalafermy 2 years ago
a very creative turnover. are submissions like banana split also available?
JointBuster 2 years ago 2
yup
matt062992 2 years ago
You guys are awesome and I cant wait for you guys and eddie to come to Laredo, TX for the seminar in March.
mau12286 2 years ago
I'm unfamiliar with the quarter guard, please post some techniques from this. Otherwise great vid.
jfkingdom 2 years ago 2
It's just the first step for the person on bottom to work to half guard. It's one mount escape. I kind of like it for someone that has a really good base and is hard to roll over.
HapkidoJosh 2 years ago
omgomgomg i love this
ph33ric 2 years ago
You guys rule.
trianglechoke7 2 years ago
Once again a ridiculously sick post!! i wish you had a school in jersey!!
piker3000 2 years ago
You and me both!
xeogen 2 years ago
hah i am u guys' fan, i watch all the videos... buh.. can u just... talk more about the flying arm bar? cuz i still cant do it
bekool1 2 years ago
BANANA SPLIT!!!!!1
laxislife1265 2 years ago
awsome
delt16 2 years ago
I guess this video implies that there is some advantage to using quarter-guard, but I'm pretty unfamiliar with it; could you do a vid about what you can actually do from that position?
dboyzero 2 years ago 8
The boys at submission101 are simply awesome!
RoaringTiger281 2 years ago
I wish I could take your classes
Cloudwacher22 2 years ago
great vid. completed unrelated but looking through your vids for attacking the home alone position from my gaurd. Hes sitting in defense posture doing nothing but waiting in EB's home alone. many thanks and keep posting.
Hector2028 2 years ago
Great video!
aparpia03 2 years ago
This is great! Do you see anything wrong with doing the calf crank from top instead of rolling into the truck? Or are you to precarious with your legs triangled? I guess theirs a chance of being punched. I'll try it tomorrow just thought I'd check.
HapkidoJosh 2 years ago
That is sick!
misterwipedown 2 years ago
best move EVER. pulling that off seems complicated.....but doable
shotokanpro 2 years ago
it looks complicated but is really easy especially if you let some one get you in quarter guard from the mount
sx771 2 years ago
that is wickedly great!!!
jojoismyname08 2 years ago