Re: Tig weld vs. Coke Cans

[scotchbritekid]

Nice!

[LLuE88]

Is there a video on welding cans as these along the verticle sides? A fellow used to work with said he could weld the coke can material with tig in a "butt" joint. He was called out of town - never seen him since?

How much trouble is it to do that?

regards,

[G30360]

@LLuE88 As far as I know there is not a video like that yet. the proper way to do it would be cut 2 sections of the side wall out and use a steel as a backing plate with the 2 soda can wall pieces clamped tightly to the steel and butted together. I believe it could be done, but it would be a fair bit of trouble! Unfortunately I do not have access to that particular TIG welder anymore, perhaps when I do again I will attempt it and post a video.

[karnoch]

Real good man. I used an older Lincoln without the benefit of frequency control, and the hi freq was enough to burn through the can but I got to where I could do it. I used a turn table and made some real nice can art. I wanted to add, about the tungsten thing: use small tungsten. and the end can be basically flat, that's how it will end up. Also don't use the green banded crap. Ceriated is my personal fav (orange band). The tip will melt more or less depending on your AC balance too.

[sarahcb87]

i dont care what they say. THAT was very impressive. awesome jo!

[G30360]

@sarahcb87 Thanks a lot. It was a challenging filming it all too! please show your support so I can get some better camera equipment in the future from my Google Adsence revenue. click on the ad and subscribe!

[zultron]

Exactly how did you film this? You can't see anything on other YT vids because they don't use a shield. Mebbe that's why you haven't gotten a video response? Awesome video. I just got an old tig welder off someone's farm, no way it's going to weld soda cans.

[G30360]

@zultron I actually used a really old HTC 6700 smart phone (1.3 megapixel) with a low shade welding lens directly in front of the camera lens balanced the phone on its side on the table. thanks for viewing

[lemegacool89]

i welded 2 coke can about a year ago at work... everybody was stunned lol i used 1/8 filler rod lol

[hoppy8199]

Amazing. I'm finishing up my Welding Cert this spring and you make it look easy bro. Again very good looking weld.

[LinkBlink]

Thats a damn fine weld, aluminum at that!

Im starting TIG classes this week, I noticed your tip was sharp, shouldn't it be round for aluminum?

[G30360]

@LinkBlink Great question, it depends on the machine and perhaps even the type of tungsten you are using. An older style transformer based machine would work better with a balled tip (in most cases.) With the newer inverter based machines that have high frequency control a sharp tip is very common. I have experienced hard arc starts and unstable arcs when trying to use a ball on an inverter machine, but perhaps I did not experiment enough with all settings.

[MattChillen]

Full canss please tryy

[Dustpan04347]

thats awesome man. what are your machine settings? Like amps, balance, high freq, all that. I wanna learn to do this.

[G30360]

@Dustpan04347 I think it has already been mentioned in the comments, but the key is a low starting amps (5-10) low balance and high freq. with pulse on this video.

[calvinculpalt]

That's insane.

[H34rt4gr4m1992]

spongebob lol!



[phantomangel19]

ya bro great job small arc mark but hey with that thin of stuff aint hard to do .....another way of doing it is getting like a 3/32 or 1/8 filler beasting it up to 25amps and arcing off the wire never touch the can and as the filler melts it will melt so hot it fuses the can. and looks good lol but seriously nice job.

[jager72190]

very impressive man keep up the good work

[pyromaniac621]

I'd be very impressed if you could cut the can in half, and weld it back together... if its possible.

[vkorinfsky]

dam thats pretty decent !

[G30360]

@vkorinfsky thanks! what kind of video should I post next? any suggestions

[vkorinfsky]

@G30360 Some car body welding would be interesting.

[Jak3Mac]

DO IT AGAIN WITH FULL CANS.

[MrNinjac0w]

@G30360 two razor blades



[G30360]

@MrNinjac0w good idea, how about some thin gauge brass?

[MrNinjac0w]

@G30360 ok

[dieselwarriordotcom]

sweet!



[Shmabe]

uh oh stray arc hole @ 6:35! :) pretty decent though!

[G30360]

@Shmabe crazzy eh? I think I had the can resting on a peice of steel angle and it was arcing all over the place on the backside

[TheCBR954]

Nice work! for a tighter smaller weld i use filler rod from a alluminium mig spool .9mm and sharpen the tungsten so i get a nice small ball on the end. I repair radiator tubes with the same technique ;)

[Malloc2]

And what size of electrode?

[G30360]

@Malloc2 not all that matters though

yes AC

1/16th electrode

low starting amps

400 hz freq.

yes pulse maybe 100pps

machine set at 100 I think.

[Malloc2]

You using AC with how many Amps, frequency, and Pulses per second if at all?

[MartyCortez]

nice but you need to cut the can in half and weld it back to gether.......

[anarchismo7]

lol heheh the ends....! try cut the can in half and then put it together again good work otherwise cool trick to show newbies keep up the good work mate!

[calypsobikes]

i think i am going to give this a try in the 6G position. What hertz are you running on? I know thats 1/16" ceriated tungsten, maybe even .040" ceriated tungsten. I wish I had my own Dynasty 350 and a garage, I would have so much fun welding stuff for myself and people. For now I only have the dynasty 350 at work. Work on not dipping your tungsten into your pool so much. It shortens the life of your tungsten and deposits aluminum on it, as well as leaves a ton of black crap all over the place

[figgoagogo]

what setting you using ? ac ?

[G30360]

@figgoagogo

Yes A/C

[1xxXRaptorXxx1]

@G30360

LMAO....He asked if you were useing ac!!!!

[LeviMan2001]

So what was the amperage, settings, whatnot?

[Durkjah]

I welded 2 coke cans together also, but they were made of steel.

[andrewsullivan99]

Amazing work, i am highly jealous

[G30360]

@andrewsullivan99

thanks but no need to be jealous

[manufacturedfracture]

mucho bueno lol great job

[jump9317]

how much amp did you have and did you have pulse to

[tomszym]

nice vid, do you think it is possible use for this task simply TIG welder DC current only ?????

[G30360]

no, you need alternating currant to TIG weld aluminum

[mstngsrule68]

@G30360 and about 3amps lol

[castirondude]

did you try this on any other welders besides the dynasty? I'm looking at buying a lincoln 355 square wave tig, not as many waveform features but there's just something nice about having a honkin piece of iron behind you.

Doesn't have the freq control though, sounds like you're running like 200 Hz or something

[G30360]

Personally I have never tried it on any other welder then the dynasty. I think the most important feature to do this would be to have low starting amperage capabilities. If I remember correct I was running 400Hz but with pulse. the pulse makes it sound lower. you can almost hear 2 tones. the high one is the high frequency and the lower one is the pulse.

[calypsobikes]

@castirondude I would stay away from Lincoln period. Never had good luck with them. The Miller Dynasty Series are the best of the best, iIn my opinion. I am a quality kind of guy, the Millers have longer up times in between things breaking and water cooler parts breaking. I have used both the dynasty 200DX and 350's both are very dependable machines and both are work horses. You can literally abuse the hell out of them, and they will still take whatever you throw their way. MILLER IS THE BEST!

[calypsobikes]

@calypsobikes The dynasty series welders have 4 different AC waveforms, check their website for the descriptions, they are, Advanced Squarewave, Soft Squarewave, Sine Wave, and Triangular Wave.

[Strom63]

awesome job!

[suprasforlife]

Was that a would be weld (holes) outside the weld zone? Fail lol Just joking nice weld.

[G30360]

your right! there are holes outside the "weld zone." the can was arcing out through the paint onto the table.

[dis12upt]

its been a few years since i been to school but when i was there they had a new miller tig machine for instructor demonstrations only but when you did aluminum tig you would sharpen your tungsten just like you would for alloy. I believe they said it was cause of the finer control of the machine that would allow it and youd still get the ball on the end but it would be very small on the end of the point... just saying

[Utouchable89]

FML that's a beautiful weld haha

[Mick70RR]

Nice welding. I've tried this myself and it's not easy.

[mrowe8705]

word of advice, consistancy makes for a much prettier bead

[G30360]

we are not looking for words, we are looking for video responses almost a year later and we still have none.

[bozzza69]

im gettin my tig for home in like a week ill post soon

[bozzza69]

dont have to be a cock sucker i was excited to just post one cunt

[richiehalps001]

what sort of amps you using??

[bozzza69]

id guess like 8 lol

[Jakhama2mcmetz]

nice vid mate, is there any reason youve got ur tungsten sharpened for alloy? try rounding it off.

[bplturner]

It rounds itself.

[Jakhama2mcmetz]

but youl get alot smoother arc and more consistantancy

[98837]

just moved new area

wanting new friends fj

[G30360]

this was also done on a miller dynasty 350, I think I was using pulse and not sure about the actually amerpage. there was no hole in the bottom of the can, I wire brushed the cans, but scotch brite would work to. I set the welder to mostly cleaning. thats why the arc is wondering so much near the beginging and I keep stoping/starting.

[agpilotphil]

So what welder were you using, Lincoln or miller? what was the amperage set at? Did you punch a hole in the bottom of the cans? Is there a coating on the cans you had to scotch brite off? Is the welder set at max penetration or max cleaning, or auto? Thanks for any response, I've been trying to get this down, and cant't seem to get it. I just bought a lincoln precision 185.

[heliarclee]

not too bad man. We used to do this all the time in tech school. Then I had to weld aluminum this thin at a job I had. Butt weld .020 aluminum.

[RHEAD100]

Really nice job. 5 stars.

Next time run a little Argon in both cans while you are welding and see if it smooths out the ripple pattern. Don't know about aluminum. BUT, it sure helps with stanless. Beautiful pattern both sides with NO black sugering.

[G30360]

Good suggestion, I'm sure that would help alot. Thanks for the comment

[tonydatiger123]

i own u at h3 g30 360, 1v1 me :) nice welding btw

[danomite76]

Very nice thats impressive im still lookin forward to trying tig welding on aluminum iv only used a mig spool gun. but that is definetly a good job!

[tubetygrys]

Try it with the rounded part cut off so it's a true butt joint. Then we will worship you.

[weldersweetlover]

amazing Bro...wish i cud Work there..

[longtang1234]

very impressive!

[ajacobs6]

Very impressive. Thank you for posting this,I certainly have to try that.

[G30360]

thanks for the comment, good luck and don't be discouraged if you cant get it the first try. took me about 4 set of cans, although I think I would have been better off with 3/32 tungsten and the scratch start setting on my machine.

[S1773]

awsome view, rarely seen from this perspective when recorded.looks like u got the idea too,u look like u know what ur doing.

considering it's pop cans and ur first time welding them. elite yea dude

[G30360]

SPONGEBOB = CO WORKERS TO BE CLEAR :)

we share a machine.