Neo Turf Masters - Baden (NeoGeo) Speedrun by Xiaopang 1/2

[ErnieBolding]

This game is absolutely beautiful!

[egg64]

OMG THE HACKS.. LOL, and you're absolutely right. This is one of the best golf games ever made, arcade or console.

[noooly]

well i can finish all courses on 1 credit but par -33 says there's always room to improve :]]

[HSimon1981]

How many albatross's do you see on this game?

[DanAdamKOF]

You are an enormous fan to do such a thing. I love KOF (check my name) but NTM is probably my most favorite cartridge I have :). I love your commentary, you have a very insightful deconstruction of the game! I love how you explain the whole issue with the roughness of the game making it impossible to make a hole in a certain amount of shots.

Beautiful!

[giunkolo]

A lot of luck, enormous holes and windy wheater :)

[mkinitcpio]

Why does this game reminds me of Metal Slug?

[Andermetal1]

@mkinitcpio

Neo (intro sound) Geo

[MysticArksRevenge]

@mkinitcpio That is because the same company who did Metal Slug did this game. I like the voice acting in this game as well as the ones in Metal Slug 1 and 2.

[AlphaT0kairu]

the american is the "young hero"...

does that mean he has nothing going for him? lol

[GeeBashBliss]

Are there any tools that would allow you to remove the pin ?

I enjoy this game a lot but I want to remove the pin because it stops me from getting a better score most times when I am playing well.

[TheSchoolWorld]

Neo Geo is so damn awesome.

[BraggartTheBlagard]

smoke turf everyday

[theguitarherokevin]

:O JUEGAS MUCHO

[DowntimeSeb]

Great gaming, I've been glad to play BADEN birdie on every hole..but I didn't get any eagle...

[VagrantNoName]

Wha? No Happy Gilmore on the select screen? :O

[egg64]

He actually looks more constipated from hitting Eagle than Bogey



[FunLeech]

that music

[jay377777]

You put on a clinic here- brilliant shot after brilliant shot. I am a bit surprised you did not do this with the other three courses. I would think you could tear them up with similar tactics as well in rather short times, too. I don't know if you ever tried to speed run them, though.

I remember this game, I used to play it in arcades in the 90s but I was nowhere near as good as you are.

[Xiaopang3333]

@jay377777: I did indeed. At least I tried. When I finished this run, I immediately tried the next course, but the emulator was too unstable back then and the run went out of synch after only a few seconds. I tried it again a month ago, but the new version of the emu crashes on me on most of my machines, so it's still not stable enough. Since there's no other emu available to TAS NeoGeo games, it'll take a while till I can deal with the other courses. I'd sure love to do it now, though.

[jay377777]

@Xiaopang3333 I wonder if you could contact the emulator's developer with the details of your crashes- as much as you can give him. Software developers often like that for info like that could help them stabilize their products.

Also you could post videos of a few or even one hole of the other courses. I am not sure if anyone has videos of Japan or America on here.

thanks

[Xiaopang3333]

@jay377777: I did contact him and arrogant replies were all I received, so I refuse to support the devver.

Posting vids of single holes is too much work and no fun at all. Judging by the few views this run has gotten so far, single runs wouldn't get much attention. The effort however of dealing with all the crashes and synching problems, encoding the videos, uploading and maintaining them for a handful of views is just too much a waste of my time. A full TAS is still on my checklist, though.

[Xiaopang3333]

@tikibird1970: Thanks for your unqualified remark. Would you know the least about tool-assisted runs then you'd know that tasing is not comparable to actually playing...

[Dyne]

Well done. Supreme quality and that was topped with the great commentary. It feels much more entertaining when you can understand, once and for all, what was being done in a TAS.

[Xiaopang3333]

@Dyne: Thanks a lot. Nice to see that you liked the action and the commentary :)

[TheFinalGoose]

for this game to be this old I'm honestly impressed by the graphics

[neogeo5558756]

exelent i finish this game when i have 8 years old

saludetes

[viewtifulday]

I always play as the technician because he looks like a nerd.

[KFNBX10]

TAS aside, it's still a great gameplay. I like the music especially when an Eagle or Albatross takes place. Keep up the good work.

[casperld]

Ummm. how the fuck did you do this? Are you cheating here?

Anyone to play this online with me send me a message and we can set a game up.

I love this game!

[GenericEric01]

Those closed captions look great! Did you use a program for that?

[Xiaopang3333]

@GenericEric01: thank you. i used subtitle workshop 2.51. it's an old subtitle program that supports a plethora of text-based sub-formats. it has a video preview for timing and a nice little tool-set to make subbing comfortable. i used the srt-format since it's the easiest to handle and because it's the only one youtube supported at that time.

still, you don't need a sub-app. srt is so easy you could write it in notepad if you don't mind typing in timecodes.

[RyuLoki]

"Yeah!" That pose is jus' awesome.

I still want to see a unique hole-in-one pose though...

[stabbedbyahippie]

the soundtrack is so good

[six7777]

this is cool ~

[dakarus]

ON THE GWEEEN!

[Xiaopang3333]

well, then that's not your kind of entertainment. plenty of others enjoy it. one thought though comes to mind: why do you even watch a speedrun if you don't enjoy it? even more so: why do you watch it if you know that it destroys your fun playing the game?

unlike most speedruns, this is more like a computer-like gameplay which can not be imitated regardless how well trained you are, so i don' understand how someone could lose his enjoyment over watching something that's basically just a demo

[skugs]

cool vid but there's only one faq for this game @ gamefaqs and it aint that hot....too bad cause I am hooked on this game.

[CrackatoaDubs]

this game is too addictive

[Xiaopang3333]

what do you mean?

[AYRYZIGER]

4:24 An Albatross. Incredible.. Even rarer than a hole-in-one, both in this game and in real life~

[ThePieIsFalse]

i think if anyone went -16 on the first 9 holes in real life.....peoples minds would be blown

[wxscooter]

It seems like you have a better chance of an eagle/albatross/etc if the ball is high and bounces in rather than have it run across the green... Interesting... Awesome video!

[brannonery]

this is either the greatest or the worst thing i've ever seen.

either way, i suddenly feel compelled to go improve on my -18 on australia :[

[LCDragonrats]

ALL-TIME CLASSIC!

[wuahn]

Nice to see this game still getting attention. I first played it in MAME and now have it on the Wii virtual console. Definitely never seen an "Albatross" before this!

[sollazzoman]

Ok, i think is a fake... Xiao i'm a "pro" too, it's 11 years i play NTM, n i'm good too, but you can't do this... you jump the vision of the hole and it xplain the position of the hole!!! You shoot like you already know it is... but is not possible cause the position is variable from match to match......... and wind too!! is it cheatin' like save n load?... it is possible... by the way hope it is not....

[sollazzoman]

another thing... the wind is ALWAYS variable, but in this video always helps you...... -__-....

[Xiaopang3333]

wow, the first asinine post in over 6 months

which part of

If you don't know what a tool-assisted speedrun is, google it before leaving stupid comments!

of my video description did you not understand?

apparently the tool-assisted tags evaded you as well as the re-recording count that i stated in the subs, or my explanation how i timed the shots down to the exact pixel

[RichterBelmontITA]

Anche io credo si tratti di un montaggio usando il vecchio trucco del salva e carica.

Sono anni che anche io gioco a NTM e sono riuscito a fare pochissimi eagle fino ad oggi.

[sollazzoman]

mah guarda ritch... sto xiao dice che usa un tool, ho provato a cercare ma non ho capito bene per cosa sia... cmq a parte il fatto che lui fa spesso eagle, o si avvicina ecc, quello che non mi torna è che pare sia sempre assistito dal vento, e sembra che lo utilizza a suo piacimento.. forse col tool puoi farlo ma rimane sempre un fake, che non da più valore alla giocata...

[RichterBelmontITA]

Rimane un fake senza ombra di dubbio, ho appena fatto una breve ricerca su Google ed ho trovato su Wikipedia inglese la spiegazione di questo fantomatico tool-assisted speedrun, il quale non fa niente altro che dirti quale siano gli input maggiormente ideali per completare un relativo livello di gioco.

[sollazzoman]

mmm... capito... ecco spiegato perchè spesso si avvicina molto a fare eagle e sbaglia di pochissimo... anche per il vento uguale... a sto punto mi chiedo che senso abbia farsi i gradassi con un video del genere... boh.. riprovaci senza tool caro Xiao... poi ne riparliamo!

[Flagel88]

Non è lui ad essere bravo: sta usando dei programmi che simulano il colpo prima di quello effettivo per calcolare le variabili migliori (direzione,potenza etc.)

[Xiaopang3333]

wrong...if it was only that simple...can't you read subtitles??

[Nimai]

Sono un po' in ritardo, ma commento lo stesso.

Innanzitutto non credo che Xiao stia facendo il gradasso: ha menzionato chiaramente che si tratta di una TAS e di certo non si vanta di niente.

In secondo luogo, le Tool-Assisted Speedruns sono molto utili per dimostrare le migliori strategie di gioco e porre dei limiti massimi alle Speedrun regolari, così è possibile capire con una certa precisione quanto si sta andando bene.

[Xiaopang3333]

gracie. finally someone who got it right. thanks to you not every italian looks like he has been living under a rock for the last decade ;)

[Xiaopang3333]

you don't get enjoyment out of watching a perfect game of neo turf masters? you don't even understand that others do, even though i have clearly stated it several times?? man, you must be lobotomized or something...

[Xiaopang3333]

congratulations on not getting the meaning of a speedrun. is the video-.golf community really so retarded as to not get the concept of beating a game as fast as possible?? is the circumstance that speed isn't essential when playing golf getting in the way? am i just ahead of my time or what is it with you narrow-minded people?

i at least give you credit for using google,but what's that good for if you not just missed the point,but apparently also an established part of videogame entertainment

[RichterBelmontITA]

I gave an explanation to sollazzoman about what a speedrun is, that's it.

Keep making videos with your tool-assisted speedrun.

Bye

[Xiaopang3333]

i know. you were the only one who got it right, that's why i thanked you ;)

you replied to the wrong comment. this one was not directed at you. youtube has a way of screwing the display of comments up

[Axel9922Tube]

the best

[LaoCommando]

Are you ever gonna put up a download link for the whole video?

[Xiaopang3333]

totally forgot about that. the video is up now, just check the video description. thanks for reminding me

[Raven7b]

this is just..amazing....i got crazy searching for an emu for my mac..and in the end the game didn't start...:(

[MEDNUB]

Can I get an explanation why it wasn't possible to get the 2nd shot in at 1:10? I haven't played much of this game to understand :S

[Xiaopang3333]

sure. hitting the hole from the fairway is a finicky process. to aim your swing,? you can turn your player before you get access to the power gauge. the smallest unit you can turn to either side is 1 pixel and even that was already to not hit the hole perfectly enough to sink the ball. additionally, the player i use is a real brute. his clubs only allow very rough adjustments for speed and strength and in this case all these factors added up to the game not giving me a chance to hit the hole

[Xiaopang3333]

damn typos...oh well, i guess you can make sense out of that ;)

[nineko]

This is awesome.

[Xiaopang3333]

thanks dude :)

[AbhiB]

dude can you do story mode for the Neo CD version

you know when you have all 4 grounds and then Scotland

also I would if someone can upload the soundtrack

[Xiaopang3333]

i never played the cd-version, only the arcade one

[AbhiB]

its a shame, find the mame or whatever it is for the Neo CD verison cause after you do all 4 courses, you press the D button and you thne get an extra cousrse

[Xiaopang3333]

that sounds intruiging. i'll give it a try :)

[Xiaopang3333]

hmm, never heard of 2df

[SupremeJudge]

Still talking?

[Xiaopang3333]

still not thinking? i guess you're the kind of guy who walks up to people at the shooting range telling them that they suck at counter strike...

[Xiaopang3333]

nope. tried it through kaillera once and it sucked

[SupremeJudge]

Too bad you aren't this good in the game. When I first watched it I didn't read the video details.

Great vid though.

[Xiaopang3333]

well enlighten me then how your tactics are superior to those of a TAS...

[Xiaopang3333]

LOL sorry, but you're an idiot. what does me making a tas having to do with me being bad at the game??? i played this game for over a decade now and wanted to see a next to perfect gameplay video and since there was none, i made one myself. how you get from that i suck at it, is beyond me and basically defies all logic. especially if you read the subs, which show that i understood the game very well. on the contrary, i doubt that you analyzed its engine so detailed the way i did.

[Xiaopang3333]

so most likely, your gameplay pales in comparison to mine. you're welcome to prove that you're not just all talk with a gameplay vid of yours. i already showed what i can do with the game...tools or not...if you don't know the workings of the engine, then you won't achieve much. also i never claimed to be perfect, so there's no need to post a real-time video of me playing just to make your little e-penis shrivel... oh yeah, if you ever do a vid, don't forget to use level 8 difficulty mr bigmouth

[LCDragonrats]

Don't mind SupremeJudge, he is probably 400lbs, cant get a woman and is a douchebag! The video was incredible and any1 that says that ya are bad at this is a loser and failure in life (i.e. SupremeJudge)

[Xiaopang3333]

thanks dude :)

[GermanAnimeFans]

oh yeah, when you check out his profile you can see a photoshopped pic of him...not very clearly, but he looks like a fat fuck

[LCDragonrats]

lmao, yeah ya are right fat fuck indeed! A+

[redsoxism]

if you like this, play Utour golf its amazing, nice btw

[amotucalva]

nice albatross!! I've never seen something like this

[SuperGeon]

wow amazing shots,man!

[kinmanyuen]

lol this game is pretty addictive on my gp200 lol.

It also made me hooked up with shotonline :D

[BobbyNewb]

I actually am a longtime member of the Gamefaqs MB's, and that was the first place I looked for FAQs. Didn't see any, unless I possibly overlooked something...I'll check again. Also...how do you hit those shots that land just outside the green without misjudging and passing the hole? BIG problem for me.

[Xiaopang3333]

you're right about gamefaqs. all i checked before recommending them was whether the game was listed, but not if it had walkthroughs for it and indeed it doesn't. just watch the in-game manual and go from there ;)

as for those shots you mentioned. it's all about experience and knowing the game. for example, using the 280yd driver with following wind lets me drive around 330yd. i use the small map in the corner to measure that distance and set up my drive accordingly. the rest is luck ;)

[BobbyNewb]

I just this game and LOVE it, I only ave a problem with knowing the different clubs (not a real golfer). I doubt any faqs exist for this game...great video, though, makes me eager to get good at it!

[Xiaopang3333]

thanks. you can find tons of faqs for the game at gamefaqs com

[Nimai]

Nice video! I had never really thought about a speed run for this game, neither did I know it would have involved so many factors.

Wouldn't Hole 3 have been a bit faster if you had intentionally lost the Closest to the Pin Contest?

I love this game, I can't remember how much I spent on it at the arcades.

[Xiaopang3333]

wow! quick comment. the video has been up for less than an hour!

as for your question: yes, it would have been a lot faster. i explained that already in the subtitles ;) this video was all about gameplay. speed wasn't really that important to me, but my next runs of the game will go for max speed :)

[Nimai]

Sorry, I must have skipped some text.

I was quick on commenting because I often search for the latest speed runs on Youtube.