I have the original version on VHS, and it has all these scenes. Didn't realize some releases had these omitted from them.
I've always wondered if there was more than 1 Charger used for the filming. If so what happened to it. As well, I've always been curious about more Charger options/mods, details, etc.
@SixSpeedSS The VHS came after it ran on TV in 1978, so it would likely have gotten the added scenes. The scenes are not 'omitted'- they weren't used for the original theater release because the director chose not to use them. They were added for TV to stretch the film out to fill a 2-hour timeslot. 3 Chargers were used. Two destroyed in crashes with the train, one was sold to a crew member who's wife wrecked the car in the late 1970s. All three are believed long scraped and gone.
@jwramc Ah, very interesting. I can only imagine how much one of those Charger's might be worth today. Would be loads of fun for us mopar guys, just seeing pics and knowing it was till out there. Wonder if anybody has pics of any of them, after the filming?
Any further details on the cars? Like all real R/T's, all auto's, what paint was used to prep them for the film? Anything else? Thanks....
@SixSpeedSS The crew guy that bought the main car (the '69 fake-RT) fixed it up, and has shown a few grainy photos of it from the few short years he owned it. Go on dodgechargerDOTcom and look for the DMCL threads in the Charger Discussion section- lots of chatter there. Both of the '69s were base models, the '68 may or may not have been a real RT. The #1 'hero' car that was sold was a base 318/Auto, originally blue with black vinyl top. We don't know what drivetrains the other two had. More...
@jwramc Both 69s were AC cars, the 68 is unknown. The paint is Dodge's 1971 "Citron Yella", code GY3, custom sprayed by the film's car crew. They put mailbox number stickers on the quarters, taped the stripe, then shot satin black paint, removed the tape & stickers, leaving the Yella '440' in the black stripe- cheap & easy. As they approach the bar/pool hall, look @ the door mirror to see another Charger reflected in it. They had no camera trucks- they just used the other Chargers to shoot from!
Nice Scenes. But these were all filmed at the same time the original movie was made. There were two different edits of the film.These are from the longer version.
The original VHS release was the long edit with these scenes.
I am Partial to this Movie. That is My Father wearing the blue shirt and tan cowboy hat in scene four with the Camaro. This scene is at a actual flea market.
@lemmyswartt Yes, these scenes were filmed at the same time, but were never part of the film- there was no 'longer edit' before the film was to come to TV and was too short, so these unused shots were then added-in..
@jwramc Well I see you have your mind set but I respectfully Disagree. Can you tell me how you know This. I have a Original VHS release and all These scenes are in this.
My Father said there were other scenes filmed at the flea market but They must have ended up on the cutting room floor never to be seen at all.
@lemmyswartt The VHS tape came AFTER the TV version, so it of course can contain the added footage. As for my source, that would be the director, John Hough. And, yes, like every film ever made, additional scenes were filmed & never used. The 5 I've included here were just like that 'til the TV execs said the film needed to be a few minutes longer for TV & Hough went back & picked these shots as 'good enough' to insert- but these scenes were NEVER in the theater as a 'longer version'.
@whitebread8381 The paint was all custom, created 4 the film. The color wasn't available from Dodge til 1970 (high-impact colors) & called Citron Yella. The stripe was a quick-n-cheap add-on. The crew ran tape down the side of the car in a long "V', with the point @ the front & a 4" high gap @ the rear. B4 the black paint, they applied home address stickers (available in any hardware store) at the rear to read "440". They then shot black paint over the numbers, removed the tape & stickers, done.
Thanks for posting this since the late 70s I have been telling my friends these scenes were not a figment of my imagination. This movie is one of the best examples of real stunts not computer generated crap.
I saw this movie in the theater during its' original release, and I distinctly remember each and every one of these scenes. Can't say I ever saw it on TV. Acting was painful to watch, but the cars and the chases were worth the price of admission. Peace:-)
@binnyman You've answered your own question! :) If you remember these scenes, you've seen it on TV... cuz they were not in the theatrical release, but added later specifically for TV. There's no mystery about it, nor any FOX-style revisionist history going on. As for the acting, I don't see bad acting, just quirky characters...tho I'm very biased about this film, so... :)
@apatheticempathy Three Chargers were used- a '69 R/T (has the C-pillar chrome of a vinyl top car), a '69 base model (seen just before hitting the red pickup) and a '68 R/T (side-by-side bumping with police car). The original colors aren't known but I believe one of them was gold based on the scenes while repairing it and while the helicopter is overhead...little clues there..
@bllw69 Well back then there were thousands of them so it was ok....Today you'll never see a old Charger get wrecked in a movie, They wouldnt have to anyway, today these directors are all about CGI HORSESHIT!!!
This is a B movie, but for car buffs it is a timeless classic. This was to be the last movie I saw at the drive-in with my dad and the rest of the family, he died the next year of a heart attack, so this movie holds something more to me than car chases.
They shoudl have thrown in a quick shot of somebody slapping the guy who said "351 Cleveland" for getting his Ford and Mopar engines mixed up. Or maybe a behind the scenes shot of somebody slapping the guy who wrote that into the script.
showing them as car guys, but I mean seriously what a goof... no wonder they didnt show it in the movie!! aweful screw-up!!! would of ruined the movie
@WPGinterceptor It wasn't a goof/mistake. It was a comical moment to show how unreliable witnesses can be- especially this bunch of boneheads. Calling it a mistake is kinda like saying Jim Carrey screwed up when he taped the head on the parakeet in Dumb & Dumber because it wouldn't bring the bird back to life. It's just a joke. heck, *I* have had countless dopes tell me my Javelin's 401 is actually a Mopar 400....and the AMC 390 is really a Ford. Stupid is all over the place. :)
One cool scene in the movie is the chase between the Charger and the chopper going around the intersection; man, you're looking at real machines doing real stunts going at real speed, with no computer assisted!
...notice the helicopter blades nearly hit the pavement----that, my friends, is one ass-kickin' pilot!
Director John Hough said when he met Peter Fonda to talk about doing this film,he was pitching quarters(and winning!)outside an LA bar.Hence the scene here!
Thanks for uploading! Always liked the "Quarter Pitching" and "351 Cleveland Four-barrel" scenes!Remember them from an old BETA format tape,thats long gone.........
You are thinking of Daniel Stern, but he's not old enough to have looked as this actor does in 1973. If you want to see him really young, check out "Blue Thunder". Good eye, tho!
Of the three Chargers used in the film, none were originally Limelight Green. All were custom painted, with hand-taped custom stripes made up by the film's car crew. The '440' numbers at the rear sides were just house address stickers applied over the green, then painted over with the black stripes, then the stickers got removed, leaving green numbers on the car- simple and cheap!
Thanks for taking the time to post those scenes. I've waited for years to see that. I like the "stop while you're ahead" statement from the swap meet. Yes I agree these scenes further defined the characters. A+++!
Wow how weird you posted that the same day or should i say after mine LOL, i don't remember anything being deleted from the kidnapping, store office scene or the confrontation between Franklin or Donahue and last but not least telling dingleberry to tuck it in.? I've seen this movie plenty.
Thanks. You gotta wonder what the guy who gave it one star was thinking. Just what is he comparing it to? Has he seen better 'lost scenes' from this movie? Duh.
I have the original version on VHS, and it has all these scenes. Didn't realize some releases had these omitted from them.
I've always wondered if there was more than 1 Charger used for the filming. If so what happened to it. As well, I've always been curious about more Charger options/mods, details, etc.
SixSpeedSS 3 days ago
@SixSpeedSS The VHS came after it ran on TV in 1978, so it would likely have gotten the added scenes. The scenes are not 'omitted'- they weren't used for the original theater release because the director chose not to use them. They were added for TV to stretch the film out to fill a 2-hour timeslot. 3 Chargers were used. Two destroyed in crashes with the train, one was sold to a crew member who's wife wrecked the car in the late 1970s. All three are believed long scraped and gone.
jwramc 3 days ago
@jwramc Ah, very interesting. I can only imagine how much one of those Charger's might be worth today. Would be loads of fun for us mopar guys, just seeing pics and knowing it was till out there. Wonder if anybody has pics of any of them, after the filming?
Any further details on the cars? Like all real R/T's, all auto's, what paint was used to prep them for the film? Anything else? Thanks....
SixSpeedSS 3 days ago
@SixSpeedSS The crew guy that bought the main car (the '69 fake-RT) fixed it up, and has shown a few grainy photos of it from the few short years he owned it. Go on dodgechargerDOTcom and look for the DMCL threads in the Charger Discussion section- lots of chatter there. Both of the '69s were base models, the '68 may or may not have been a real RT. The #1 'hero' car that was sold was a base 318/Auto, originally blue with black vinyl top. We don't know what drivetrains the other two had. More...
jwramc 3 days ago
@jwramc Both 69s were AC cars, the 68 is unknown. The paint is Dodge's 1971 "Citron Yella", code GY3, custom sprayed by the film's car crew. They put mailbox number stickers on the quarters, taped the stripe, then shot satin black paint, removed the tape & stickers, leaving the Yella '440' in the black stripe- cheap & easy. As they approach the bar/pool hall, look @ the door mirror to see another Charger reflected in it. They had no camera trucks- they just used the other Chargers to shoot from!
jwramc 3 days ago
this is some gud stuff
Ceejayanthirium 3 months ago
damn her teeth are BUSTED...
Cartmanland98 7 months ago
Nice Scenes. But these were all filmed at the same time the original movie was made. There were two different edits of the film.These are from the longer version.
The original VHS release was the long edit with these scenes.
I am Partial to this Movie. That is My Father wearing the blue shirt and tan cowboy hat in scene four with the Camaro. This scene is at a actual flea market.
I was only Five when This Movie was Made.
lemmyswartt 9 months ago
@lemmyswartt Yes, these scenes were filmed at the same time, but were never part of the film- there was no 'longer edit' before the film was to come to TV and was too short, so these unused shots were then added-in..
jwramc 9 months ago
@jwramc Well I see you have your mind set but I respectfully Disagree. Can you tell me how you know This. I have a Original VHS release and all These scenes are in this.
My Father said there were other scenes filmed at the flea market but They must have ended up on the cutting room floor never to be seen at all.
lemmyswartt 9 months ago
@lemmyswartt The VHS tape came AFTER the TV version, so it of course can contain the added footage. As for my source, that would be the director, John Hough. And, yes, like every film ever made, additional scenes were filmed & never used. The 5 I've included here were just like that 'til the TV execs said the film needed to be a few minutes longer for TV & Hough went back & picked these shots as 'good enough' to insert- but these scenes were NEVER in the theater as a 'longer version'.
jwramc 9 months ago
On what movie site is that?
jwramc 11 months ago
The funniest part is the horrified look Roddy McDowell gives Fonda, as if to say; "You dare take my coffee? You evil bastard!"
jlovebirch 1 year ago
it was a 440 six pack bad car sounded great
whitebread8381 1 year ago
@whitebread8381 The three Chargers were comprised of two 440-4vs and one 383-4v, no six packs.
jwramc 1 year ago
@jwramc thanks for your reply we saw the movie recently and my buddy thought it was a six pack by the paint scheme
whitebread8381 1 year ago
@whitebread8381 The paint was all custom, created 4 the film. The color wasn't available from Dodge til 1970 (high-impact colors) & called Citron Yella. The stripe was a quick-n-cheap add-on. The crew ran tape down the side of the car in a long "V', with the point @ the front & a 4" high gap @ the rear. B4 the black paint, they applied home address stickers (available in any hardware store) at the rear to read "440". They then shot black paint over the numbers, removed the tape & stickers, done.
jwramc 1 year ago
I always got Peter Fonda and Michael Sarrazin mixed up
cast390 1 year ago
Thanks for posting this since the late 70s I have been telling my friends these scenes were not a figment of my imagination. This movie is one of the best examples of real stunts not computer generated crap.
corvettegeorge79 1 year ago
I saw this movie in the theater during its' original release, and I distinctly remember each and every one of these scenes. Can't say I ever saw it on TV. Acting was painful to watch, but the cars and the chases were worth the price of admission. Peace:-)
binnyman 1 year ago
@binnyman You've answered your own question! :) If you remember these scenes, you've seen it on TV... cuz they were not in the theatrical release, but added later specifically for TV. There's no mystery about it, nor any FOX-style revisionist history going on. As for the acting, I don't see bad acting, just quirky characters...tho I'm very biased about this film, so... :)
jwramc 1 year ago
No need to apologise - quality-wise, this is pretty GOOD by YT standards! Thanks for making the effort.
disparatedan 1 year ago
RIP Adam Roarke........
HardworkingAmerican 1 year ago
NEED SOME cars reproduce..........CHARGER,1968,69,70!!!
TheTtomo 1 year ago
@apatheticempathy Three Chargers were used- a '69 R/T (has the C-pillar chrome of a vinyl top car), a '69 base model (seen just before hitting the red pickup) and a '68 R/T (side-by-side bumping with police car). The original colors aren't known but I believe one of them was gold based on the scenes while repairing it and while the helicopter is overhead...little clues there..
jwramc 1 year ago
@jwramc They need to stop wreaking Chargers in movies.
bllw69 1 year ago
Comment removed
bjroberts65 1 year ago
@bllw69 Well back then there were thousands of them so it was ok....Today you'll never see a old Charger get wrecked in a movie, They wouldnt have to anyway, today these directors are all about CGI HORSESHIT!!!
bjroberts65 1 year ago
@bjroberts65
I don't know, even the relatively high value of a classic is worth relatively little compared to the average movie/film budget, more's the pity! :(
I remember a Charger getting ruined in 'The Fast and Furious' (albeit far from standard), it still makes me wince to see it happen even now!
charlieflint 1 year ago
what ever happened to ALL the Dodge Chargers used in this film after filming ?
Do ~ ANY ~ survive ?
Gotta LOVE the Old Mopar Muscle cars ! Timeless style !
apatheticempathy 1 year ago
Cage; take the point! Kirby! Littlejohn! You're on me! The rest of you! Spread out!
CaptBeauregards 1 year ago
Ahh what a find.when you've seen this movie as many times as i have...This is priceless...Much thanks to JWRAMC for uploading this!!!
bjroberts65 2 years ago
You're muchly welcome. I can tell you feel the same about them and the film itself as I do. :)
jwramc 2 years ago
This is a B movie, but for car buffs it is a timeless classic. This was to be the last movie I saw at the drive-in with my dad and the rest of the family, he died the next year of a heart attack, so this movie holds something more to me than car chases.
nybites 2 years ago
Yep, our very own Susan George is a Brit, and I always found it an odd choice in a movie such as this.
IntellectualAmy 2 years ago
They shoudl have thrown in a quick shot of somebody slapping the guy who said "351 Cleveland" for getting his Ford and Mopar engines mixed up. Or maybe a behind the scenes shot of somebody slapping the guy who wrote that into the script.
SuperSlowMonte 2 years ago 6
I fully Agree.
biljorj 2 years ago
Well, the guy did say that the other guy was crazy for saying that the car had a 351 Cleveland.
paktype 2 years ago 5
@SuperSlowMonte
showing them as car guys, but I mean seriously what a goof... no wonder they didnt show it in the movie!! aweful screw-up!!! would of ruined the movie
WPGinterceptor 1 year ago
@WPGinterceptor It wasn't a goof/mistake. It was a comical moment to show how unreliable witnesses can be- especially this bunch of boneheads. Calling it a mistake is kinda like saying Jim Carrey screwed up when he taped the head on the parakeet in Dumb & Dumber because it wouldn't bring the bird back to life. It's just a joke. heck, *I* have had countless dopes tell me my Javelin's 401 is actually a Mopar 400....and the AMC 390 is really a Ford. Stupid is all over the place. :)
jwramc 11 months ago
Thank You for posting it. You are right the scenes together do develope the characters.
TheGhostPlanet 2 years ago 2
One cool scene in the movie is the chase between the Charger and the chopper going around the intersection; man, you're looking at real machines doing real stunts going at real speed, with no computer assisted!
...notice the helicopter blades nearly hit the pavement----that, my friends, is one ass-kickin' pilot!
fambothexterminator 2 years ago 2
Strange isn't it that just a few short years later, actor Vic Morrow would be killed in another stunt involving a helicopter:(
Badfinger1964 2 years ago
it was the same exact chopper that killed him too.
kentcrawf 2 years ago
The chopper in question that Vic Morrow was killed during a shoot of the Twilight Zone movie was a UH-1 Huey.
DC322 2 years ago
Spectacular Stunts!!!!These are some of the Best Stunt Scenes from 20th Century Fox up to this date! These are Real Stuntman & Real Stunt Cars!
brendabaloyan 2 years ago
I seen this film when it was released at thedrive ins,
Several of these scenes were in the original Movie.
Still a good film with these scene changed, one of my Most ever watched car movies out there.
Great Show,
And for the color of the car, I do believe it was not linelight green, but Citron Yellow, cerious yellow.
now and thne you'll find a very good replica 1/25 scale model car build of this charger in ebay.
MrAquarium 2 years ago
Great find! They really do add to the movie, shame they didn't include them on the DVD...
UFO29 2 years ago
daniel stern at 4:02 ????????
eze14213 3 years ago
jwramc; thanks. I really enjoyed seeing this. The only part I recall is cop & that biker dude with the camaro. I like them more as I get older.
What are you gonna do at riverside? see shit & pull a fade?
600SELV12 3 years ago 2
good stuff here, wish these would have been in the DVD supercharged edition.
MikeFurches 3 years ago 3
Director John Hough said when he met Peter Fonda to talk about doing this film,he was pitching quarters(and winning!)outside an LA bar.Hence the scene here!
hamtrak 3 years ago
Thanks for uploading! Always liked the "Quarter Pitching" and "351 Cleveland Four-barrel" scenes!Remember them from an old BETA format tape,thats long gone.........
hamtrak 3 years ago 2
at 4minutes 2 seconds theres a clip which shows an actor that resembles one of the wet bandits from home alone, wonder if it`s him?
kenstelziggy 3 years ago
You are thinking of Daniel Stern, but he's not old enough to have looked as this actor does in 1973. If you want to see him really young, check out "Blue Thunder". Good eye, tho!
jwramc 3 years ago
triva the colour on the charger 440 was the same used in australia it was called
(lime light green) rare on a R//T 6 pack only see one e48 this colour with srange blackouts/stripes
450hp202turbo 3 years ago
Of the three Chargers used in the film, none were originally Limelight Green. All were custom painted, with hand-taped custom stripes made up by the film's car crew. The '440' numbers at the rear sides were just house address stickers applied over the green, then painted over with the black stripes, then the stickers got removed, leaving green numbers on the car- simple and cheap!
jwramc 3 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@jwramc
Wow, ... we would have never known !
What colors were the Chargers Originally ? Were they even original
R/T cars or plain janes ?
Mopar lovers have to know !
apatheticempathy 1 year ago
wow, i got the DVD, wish these scenes were in it...
racecardriver467 3 years ago
Thanks for taking the time to post those scenes. I've waited for years to see that. I like the "stop while you're ahead" statement from the swap meet. Yes I agree these scenes further defined the characters. A+++!
Globemasterload 3 years ago 2
Wow how weird you posted that the same day or should i say after mine LOL, i don't remember anything being deleted from the kidnapping, store office scene or the confrontation between Franklin or Donahue and last but not least telling dingleberry to tuck it in.? I've seen this movie plenty.
joesimi 3 years ago
Thanks. You gotta wonder what the guy who gave it one star was thinking. Just what is he comparing it to? Has he seen better 'lost scenes' from this movie? Duh.
jwramc 3 years ago