Muslims debate BNP (Racist Party) "Islamification of Britain" Reality or Myth (1 of 3)

[1TheLoneWolf1]

@QuranTafseer "so what are our values" You asked in a reply to Bertiethetoupe.

Well it certainly isn't child intercourse, amputation of the genitals to please "Allah" or arms and legs for punishment, beheadings for apostacy or leaving a faith. Stoning for adultery or dressing up as a ninja because apparently men can't be trusted to keep their arms to themselves.These among all the other things that is barbaric and backwards in islam, is not British culture or values.

[QuranTafseer]

@1TheLoneWolf1 Secular English values are based on the Church, lol half of what you stated is funny

but my simple reply to your silly remarks is the bible allows rape, also the secular laws which also contradict the biblical narrative have casued the following = 1 out of 4 women in the UK have been sexually abused by perverted British citizens! sadly those are the values you talk about

[1TheLoneWolf1]

@QuranTafseer

No English values are not based on the church at least not within the last century or two. you said the bible allows rape, I agree, though you missed a key word in that sentence ""ALSO"" As for all intents and purposes so does the islamic world. Lets see.... to accuse a man or rape in islamic society she'll need a male witness OR TWO FEMALE WITNESSES, how many islamic men are stupid enough to rape a chick in front of witnesses? hmm funny question, a lot of islamic men are stupid.

[QuranTafseer]

@1TheLoneWolf1 LOL false false false,

Rape in Islam does not requrire a witness it can be dealt under the criminal court system, i.e. DNA or other such evidence will surfice!

We deal with Rapists by preventing them to rape again, but sadly your secular law and values have resulted in every 1 in 4 British women i.e. Our Sister being sexually abused, i guess the biblical narrative has caused our legal system to be in the state that it is!

[1TheLoneWolf1]

@QuranTafseer

Nonsense. I know for a fact that under shariah law it requires 1 man or two women witnesses.

Also, did you know that according to police reports that EVERY SINGLE rape in Norway between 2005-2010 were carried out by muslim men?

Says much for islamic stance on rape, don't you think?

[QuranTafseer]

@1TheLoneWolf1 LOL now you also speak for the Norsk People?

can i have those figures off the offical norway goverment website?

[1TheLoneWolf1]

@QuranTafseer

Watch this

/watch?v=K_rHFKRwv5Y!

&

Google this quote to find hundreds of articles backing the fact.

"every rape in Norway muslim"

[QuranTafseer]

@1TheLoneWolf1 You must have a peanut for a brain to actually believe that?

[1TheLoneWolf1]

@QuranTafseer

Says you who believes in a sky fairy called Allan , you have no room to talk.

My belief is backed up by evidence (police records). Where's yours?

[QuranTafseer]

@1TheLoneWolf1 lol i think i might change it to Muslim debate Nazi's

maybe that way it will get more views? i didn't see the EDL or the BNP on the streets of England trying to protect us from the looters? or looting, i saw most of those football thugs filling up their pockets.

[1TheLoneWolf1]

@QuranTafseer

Of course you didn't see the BNP/EDL on the streets on the riots. Only the black and muslim youth disrupting everyone else's life.

Note: the BNP is a political party.Not a police force.

[QuranTafseer]

@1TheLoneWolf1 lol ?

Yeah really, I'm sure i saw nick griffin in JD's trying to rob some trainers, i used to see him as more of a shoes man

[1TheLoneWolf1]

@QuranTafseer

Really now? Funnily enough I saw paedo Mohammad being arrested, he was being dragged out of a well know child prostitution whore house. Poor Aisha, she'll be saddened to hear she's now too old to satisfy his needs.

[FIGHTFANNERD3]

the quran does not support bashing islam fact debate my ass

[bertiethetoupee4]

@satv365 The most important aspect of our culture is freedom, which means freedom for those who want to live in a liberal democracy to be able to. The issue is not that Islamic culture has been 'forced' on us, but that we have done too little to ensure that people wanting to live in our country must live by our values. The government has tried for a long time to please everyone and has ended up creating greater social divisions. The problem isn't immigration, it's bad handling of immigration.

[QuranTafseer]

@bertiethetoupee4 people wanting to live in our country must live by our values?

so what are our Values? is rioting on the streets british values? what a broad statement, do realise that there are alot of "White Reverts to Islam", Christians and Muslim values differ from athiests values and vice vers, it's not as easy as saying we should all live by "British values" since who defines them!

[bertiethetoupee4]

@QuranTafseer In case you didn't notice I was bound by the word restriction. By British values I mean very broadly the rule of law, democracy, and a liberal and progressive society based on tolerance. This is why people come to Britain: they like those values. Anyone who shares those values can come to Britain and be a Brit, whether they are Muslim, Christian, or Jew. Anyone who doesn't should be opposed (and that includes extreme British nationalists).

[bertiethetoupee4]

While it is true that Muslims set up this debate, we cannot judge a system, be it religious or political, based only on its best aspects, but also on its worst. While most muslims are tolerant people, we must take measures to prevent the intolerance of the few impacting on the freedom of the many. This will not be done through capping immigration, but through making the immigration system more rigorous, researching more, so that people who wish to harm democracy and freedom are not allowed to.

[GeneralAbuHamza]

We need to look back in history to see why Muslims are flooding into the lands of non-muslims. Lets start with demolishing the Muslim caliphate and then sticking puppet rulers after carving up the united Muslim world and then steal the Muslim resources and watch the muslims starve. In reality you the haters are biting the hand that fed you in the first place. Ask yourself this what is every nationality of Muslim doing in europe when their lands are full of gold oil minerals silver diamonds?

[Andybaby]

31:00

If you can't communicate with your neighbour, there is no society.

[QuranTafseer]

@Andybaby True, but how do you define communication, i doubt this guy even tried to communicate, just look at his tone at 31min again,

[QuranTafseer]

@ChristopherJamesR Maybe your sterile

[ChristopherJamesR]

@QuranTafseer ha ha doubt it. Its proven that the reaosn UK's population is exploding is because of immigration and the high birth rates of immigrant into the UK! itg really is a disgrace. when i first moved to london I had to get the first room I could find...was in East Ham...what a shit hole. full of arabs spitting in the streets and stuff. really changed my views. I lie in hope that one day the TRUE people of this country wake up and do something about the growing poison of Islam.

[ChristopherJamesR]

you even brainwash your children to the extent that they grow up not knowing any better than to worship a fictional character. that is, in my opinion a form of child abuse. goes for any religeon though i suppose.

[QuranTafseer]

@ChristopherJamesR gain a very deluded comment, modern psychologist agree that it's in human nature to believe in God google it buy some books! Don't use old rehetoric

[ChristopherJamesR]

@QuranTafseer of course it human nature! religeon is the human response to being alive and having to die. it isnt your fault that you where brain washed since a child. look how many different faiths there are! some people even believe in scientology.

so your saying darwin was wrong? and that the universe is not that old? my arse! shows you intelect believing in such crap. you go an buy some books other than that dirty quran.

[QuranTafseer]

@ChristopherJamesR Again your deluded, we are Muslim not Jews or christians the issue of the universe being several thousand years old is not part of islam, Darwinism does not disprove the existance of God but trys to explain the evolution of creation, now how it got here in the first place, see you are so ignorat you assume i have not read the bible or studied science? i'm harsh but you derserve it in this case lol and you should think so too

[ChristopherJamesR]

@QuranTafseer haha im deluded? religeon is the biggest dilusion of all. I hope that one day all religeon expecially islam is wiped off the face of the earth. it is a cancer on the planet earth. its time you respected the human kind and helped wipe it out.

[muhammadabubakrr]

ISLAM WILL BE VICTOEAAS AND NEVER WILL UIT BE WIPED OUT AS YOU PUT IT YOU ARE SO DELUDED

[ChristopherJamesR]

@muhammadabubakrr yes im the deluded one! im not the one believeing in a so called god, who lets his own people fight each other and the rest of the world! YOUR A FUCKING EVIL RACE AND RELIGEON! if there is a god you will defoo ROT IN HELL

[QuranTafseer]

@ChristopherJamesR Thanks for admiting you are deluded finally lol it wasn't so hard after all : )

[QuranTafseer]

@ChristopherJamesR And by the way RELAX i hope you go to Heaven not Hell!

[ChristopherJamesR]

Mosques should most deffinetly be cut down on in UK. I realy cannot believe what the government has let happened to the uk. Just explain this then:

9.5. Then, when the (four) sacred months are over, then kill them wherever you may come upon them, and seize them, and confine them, and lie in wait for them at every conceivable place. Yet if they repent and establish the Prescribed Prayer, and pay the Prescribed Purifying Alms, let them go their way. Surely God is All-Forgiving, All-Compassionate.

[rudeboywaz]

sweet.. im not calling you k.k.k simply saying youbz like the edl in england or k.k.k in amreca dont have room to talk as most ov them are living off the govment and places like the jobcenter.. we need to allways remmber. that if an imgrant dosnt find a job within a sertan time. der get sent bk to der county and if anyone thinks ders a radkal muslim talking about killing people or so on den der need to tell the police and not act like yobz on the street terroesing others muslims and non muslims

[QuranTafseer]

@omgsheismuslim So the panel doesn't really represent all of the UK seeing its a radical panel of people, LOL i guess it helps to address some of the issues that the BNP raises against Muslims and people of other colours? and backgrouds?

[QuranTafseer]

@omgsheismuslim No problems sis : ) by the way the BNP is considered to be a "Racist Party", by most brits you will realise what i mean when you watch the entire debate, to be honest Alan Craige also seems to be extream since He is one of those people who says he doesn't have a problem with Muslims but he has a problem with islam which is hypocrisy, the only person representing the christian side in a good sense (i.e. more orthrodox) is Father Frank Gelli who is an Anglican minister,