No stupid. They are all just jealous coz she has a cute face.. even if she was a princess, nobody would hate her coz she's too cute like a puppy.. i mean, u would do anything for a puppy would u? and all those bitches using the fake voice to insult her, then infront of her disagree with what each other said? wtf SO FAKE.. u know if u insult her show ur real voice =.=
aww how mean. i mean honestly i dont really like her cuz in other vids shes sorta of annoying but i would never want her to cry like that. and i think this show is so weird i mean i love it and i mean LOVE IT!!! but its so mean how they pik on ppl like the prank on yatou's bday that was horrible. but thats jus hw they do thngs bt ya i mean i dnt like her bt the last ones they said were pretty harsh
gosh.. i wont be able to handle stupid things like that!! i'm too sensetive,, shes good.. their just envy.. those people suck.. they didn't even consider the fact that she's just a girl and their on national tv.. putting a poor little girl in such an embarrassing moment... obviously they want her to cry... they suck...
I saw the other version w/o english subtitles and i was thinking "woow, whata crybaby." cause I had NO idea what was going on. Now, I see it was wrong for me to do that. ;/ See, here in a America, if someone said that to another person, they get bi*chslapped.
Awwwww. That made me sad I find her cutie face a bit much. But I don't think she is faking. She was really hurt they said she gets money from her parents. Be Nice to TanGuo Bitches!
i would get up,turn round and say to those lying little skanks LOOK IF U WANNA SAY SUMAT SAY IT TO MY FACE DON'T PUT A FUCKING BAG OVER YOUR HEAD BLOODY COWARDS!!! shes gawjus and they're all just jealous she doesn't deserve that just cuz she isn't a little gobshite and actually has manners and dignity unlike all you other low lifes i've never liked this show!!!!!
this show is just trying to make those girls down
OK I agree that those girls aren't perfect ans some of them are not as innocence as they really are but everyone have their own character, secret...so what's the point of digging it out?
Aaaaaw poor girl! And when ppl say:" don't cry! Plz don't cry!!" Ofc you'll do it! If I was in her position, I would cry, beacuse of the not nice criticism ..
god i hate it when u know ur about to cry and ur trying to hold it in and then someone has to say "oh don't cry, or r u gonna cry now" which makes u actually want to cry -.- i feel bad for tang guo here
I dont like Tang Guo, I think she does try a little TOO hard to be cute at times, but i still feel sorry for her. Those things were pretty mean to hear outloud
OMG i can't believe this..!!! some of those girls or maybe half of them said bad things about her and when she's about to cry they comfort her?! gosh! they're so fake! poor tangguo!!
Oh, I think it was real, but she'll get over it when she deposits check at bank, lol. There's good & bad to everything, including being popular & on TV. I think they busted her up a little to evoke emotion from the audience and keep show "interesting". Maybe also she had been getting a little tough on the other girls & staff and they were putting her in here a place a little. I mean, good grief, she's a star of the show and very few girls can compete with her likeability & cuteness factor.
Poor girl. She doesn't take criticism very well. But neither would I if I were in her position, especially if it's false criticism. This show is messed up for teasing her like that.
I live in Canada, but I know Tang Guo is still on the show because of other mini-videos that Youtube viewers post(It says the date). But, if you want to watch the episodes, then go to sugoishowV 's channel on Youtube. Tought it doesn't have subs, you can still watch the epsiodes^^
yea... alot of people say its for effect, but what are the effects for? to get more people to watch? does this effect really make you want to continue watching the show??? i think not...
no. "effects" is a direct translation from the chinese word "节目效果". i dont know how to describe it accurately, but it adds more entertainment to the show like for example when a person does something emotional so that the more people will find the show entertaining.
The effects are hurting people's feelings just to make a story out of it and entertaining viewers no matter what other people's feelings are. See how shes crying and trying to hold it in? Its hard to do that especially on TV but there goes the saying, "the price for fame"
The effects are hurting someone's feelings just to entertain viewers because that's what they do on this show. See how shes holding it in, trying not to cry then it all comes out? It's really hard, especially on a show but there goes the saying, "the price for fame"
Wow, I teared up when she did too. Because! she was so completely sincere! You can tell, when a girl is trying to act like the "victim" and when a girl like Tang Guo really is just an innocent hardworker getting targeted.
Poor thing, tons of the comments hit under the belt! That was just so vicious and judgmental. She was pretty strong to laugh at the beginning, I would have been really hurt if people said that to me and the whole room was laughing :(
that was too rough.. !.. i would really cry if someone says that to me.. but she still has the courage to say thnx.. lolz.. thats a strong girl right there!..
this is too mean!! if i was tang guo... i'll be pissed the freak... i'll be like...
"ya got something to say, say it to my face!"
man.. i hate it when girls (friends) talk about bad shit behinds eachothers back... 2 faced people... i'm not like that.. and i hate it when people do that... easpecially to tang guo...
you know... i don't like yu tu at all.. but whatever... it's only me in the world that don't like her...
omgsh those comments were like really mean! i love tang guo she doesnt ACT to be innocent, her face is just that way. have you see her dance? if she wanted to act innocent she wouldnt be dancing hella sexy up on stage for public
i feel that she's plastic and alwaysthink of herself.
*i know some people would be mad at me because of sayin this, and probably i would get thumbs down. BUT, i really don't care, i just want to express how i fell.* I'm Sorry,
i think they have said too much, i mean even though Tang Guo is like that but they should not embarass her in front of so many people. I mean they should think that tang guo is a human being which is she's capable of making mistakes. If they don't like her attitude, just make up or confront her PRIVATELY. Because i know what is the feeling of being judge or being hurt in so many people. those people who judged her on T.V really made her sad. T.T
it was kind of harsh but from a lot of videos i think tang guo isnt all that innocent either/..haha like hannah said that she was impolite to her mommy..buti dont know maybe it is just all for the show biz..anyways i still like tangguo
I honestly think HSH is good show to prepare the girls for showbiz, but it sucks when you have your "friends" say that about you on live television. It's understandable to receive that kind of situation from the media when you become a star, but sometimes HSH is just cruel and wrong.
Yeah I COMPLETELY agree with you- I think the show can make people want to embarrass others and really try to show another person's bad qualities to put them down mentally but also to viewers at home. I don't think it was really nice of the other girls to say that about Tang Guo- I mean we aren't perfect, so why should they have to target and hurt Tang Guo like that?
Hahas, I think Hannah can come off pretty or hot too. I'm not sure why but for me, it's always because she's mixed so I think she can pull it off. So in terms of who can pull cute off better, I would think it's Tang Guo.
But wow, I never knew people said that about Tang Guo. It's so mean! :( I think she just naturally looks like that~
dont cry TangGuo, i love you :-)
brian130690 4 months ago
there sooooooooo mean >_<
sshh ssshh sshh . .dont cry lil tang guo T.T
songofsiren10 5 months ago
When she finally had to talk about the money issue she was slowly breaking down to cry....
I can't believe they try to bully her like that.... she's 14 for crying out loud...
ZXReita 5 months ago
No stupid. They are all just jealous coz she has a cute face.. even if she was a princess, nobody would hate her coz she's too cute like a puppy.. i mean, u would do anything for a puppy would u? and all those bitches using the fake voice to insult her, then infront of her disagree with what each other said? wtf SO FAKE.. u know if u insult her show ur real voice =.=
Bratzpipe 8 months ago
..what kind of show is this again? like a reality one? just asking :]
kookeiify 8 months ago
佢好煩.
日日係度喊.比人講中左就喊.
winneyyeye 9 months ago
Or didnt mean incredible.. its unbelievable
MusicElskerLove 1 year ago
omg. Its incredible how mean they are.
MusicElskerLove 1 year ago
aww how mean. i mean honestly i dont really like her cuz in other vids shes sorta of annoying but i would never want her to cry like that. and i think this show is so weird i mean i love it and i mean LOVE IT!!! but its so mean how they pik on ppl like the prank on yatou's bday that was horrible. but thats jus hw they do thngs bt ya i mean i dnt like her bt the last ones they said were pretty harsh
cutie1847 1 year ago
awww how cute. she looks like a little doll. I totally understand
b1000days 1 year ago
gosh.. i wont be able to handle stupid things like that!! i'm too sensetive,, shes good.. their just envy.. those people suck.. they didn't even consider the fact that she's just a girl and their on national tv.. putting a poor little girl in such an embarrassing moment... obviously they want her to cry... they suck...
giftwrappedwithblood 1 year ago 2
oh sad..poor tang guo
we have the same birthdate pa namn..
vhangz3994 1 year ago
why wud the guy ask that??? " are you going to cry now?" -_-
RosiieCheeks 1 year ago
I saw the other version w/o english subtitles and i was thinking "woow, whata crybaby." cause I had NO idea what was going on. Now, I see it was wrong for me to do that. ;/ See, here in a America, if someone said that to another person, they get bi*chslapped.
xDbritt 1 year ago 2
huh 2:34 why would he ask Are you gonna cry now? lol ?
TrueWillz 1 year ago
after being such a good and hardworking girl ppl say this about her. who wouldn't feel upset?
User20022002 1 year ago
All those girls are jelous of her.
FireStormBaller 1 year ago 3
Awwwww. That made me sad I find her cutie face a bit much. But I don't think she is faking. She was really hurt they said she gets money from her parents. Be Nice to TanGuo Bitches!
GaijinPrincess 1 year ago
damn i'd be pretty sad too, she knows she's on tv and everyone else in the room is looking at her. sucked for her
renesay 1 year ago
Awwww thats sad.
Drager472 1 year ago
Dudee, I would cry like her too if people did that to mee. :(
Some people [like me;] are something called SENSITIVE! :/
And maybe Tang Guo is too ?
But at least she made a point & made a little bright side ?
Lolss. I would LOVE LOVE LOVE to be Tang Guo ♥ !
anngel119 1 year ago
poor girl ;<
UK339 1 year ago
i would get up,turn round and say to those lying little skanks LOOK IF U WANNA SAY SUMAT SAY IT TO MY FACE DON'T PUT A FUCKING BAG OVER YOUR HEAD BLOODY COWARDS!!! shes gawjus and they're all just jealous she doesn't deserve that just cuz she isn't a little gobshite and actually has manners and dignity unlike all you other low lifes i've never liked this show!!!!!
ambmarsh11 1 year ago
reali dont like this show
this show is just trying to make those girls down
OK I agree that those girls aren't perfect ans some of them are not as innocence as they really are but everyone have their own character, secret...so what's the point of digging it out?
XMakiChanX 1 year ago
Oh by the way. Dont believe the media. kthnxbai.
xArchangelSGE 1 year ago
Ok..... Im not surprised if she's actually like that.
xArchangelSGE 1 year ago
damn bastards.!! TangGuo isn't faking her innocent looks!!!!!she's just too cute, beautiful and pretty!
TheBalmonic 1 year ago 2
@TheBalmonic Lawl. You have been bewitched, me thinks.
xArchangelSGE 1 year ago
those stupid fawking retards!! tangguo is fawking pretty!! those lame biatches
XlXPrincess 1 year ago
backstabbers all of them.
heykiddxpotatochipp 1 year ago
ugh i really dont like girls like that she is just pretty, but yeah she should learn to take it better(the criticism) itll benefit her.
Manniie15 1 year ago
F*ck the f*cktards who made her cry ! :@
BadL15 1 year ago
Aaaaaw poor girl! And when ppl say:" don't cry! Plz don't cry!!" Ofc you'll do it! If I was in her position, I would cry, beacuse of the not nice criticism ..
MissWeerdo 1 year ago
Poor Tang guo!
It's not a good joke!
She's an idol! They could ruin
her career with that.
But still, that gut is funny! haha
tosha...
chinencute16 1 year ago
which episode is this?
alien0and0show 1 year ago
at 0:55 i think thts ya tou lol. small voice really really small voice and if u listen closley u can tell
gaozonglo13 1 year ago
i hate it when lyk someone is being targeted lyk that grr.. :(( it makes me wanna cry too...
inlavako08 1 year ago
... poor girl..
minikakapowpow 1 year ago
god i hate it when u know ur about to cry and ur trying to hold it in and then someone has to say "oh don't cry, or r u gonna cry now" which makes u actually want to cry -.- i feel bad for tang guo here
xAutumnKiss 1 year ago 4
she is supa cute
maleah567 1 year ago
I dont like Tang Guo, I think she does try a little TOO hard to be cute at times, but i still feel sorry for her. Those things were pretty mean to hear outloud
MisoViet 1 year ago
I haven't had an allowance since the beginning of time O.o
arowshaft 2 years ago 4
i feel bad that she has to pay her own school fees.
alien0and0show 1 year ago
At 0:41 the girl in shadow commenting is really bad ass i wish i could whack her in front of everyone.
Draconla 2 years ago
HAHAHAHA
The3DTexture 1 year ago
我也哭了,这种女孩子要在那里找啊?糖果,我超喜欢你。。。。。
TanWeiHou 2 years ago
aaaaaaa dear!!!
GioGio348 2 years ago
just like xiao han now la...
sapphirekat 2 years ago
shes adorable they are wanna bs
Manniie15 2 years ago
i think this was an episode when the girls were told to say what they didn't like about the other girls.
all of them had to do it, not just tang guo
em5133 2 years ago
starting from 2:41
I think it says everything. Look how she's smiling...
waldemarrrrr 2 years ago
bitches...
GuppyPal 2 years ago 5
fags just jealous of her
Genobreak84 2 years ago 11
wtf they are so mean to her, ppl dont have to always say bad things to make others feel worse. just coz there nt pretty enuf...
kmclovinkatiekinns 2 years ago
oh dear.....
zero390 2 years ago
I feel sad when I saw this,
diorsonxxx 2 years ago
i'm confused, she was all like confident until the money part. 0_0
1xXitachiXx1 2 years ago 2
probably it's bcoz money is a sensitive issue for her
SamChristian 2 years ago 24
So sad and emotional....
I almost cried myself.
The girls on this show are always claiming they're "just joking around" but they end up making other girls cry...
CupCakeObsessor6789 2 years ago 4
OMG i can't believe this..!!! some of those girls or maybe half of them said bad things about her and when she's about to cry they comfort her?! gosh! they're so fake! poor tangguo!!
alyssaloveu323 2 years ago 5
their only saying that 2 make her cry and their just joking
kungFuGirl01 2 years ago 3
i feel like crying shes an angel whoever dissed her im gonna beat her up so bad!!
MrWhatshappening 2 years ago 2
lol. tang guo crying is ok, but if it was me crying in front of public people will say im a fucking crybaby xD
oh well, world isnt fair though.
sakuraminekura 2 years ago 6
1:09 妳承認妳是公主病嗎
i was able to write it
take that traditional-chinese subtitle!!! i feel like a code cracker lol
"nǐ chéng rèn nǐ shì gōng zhǔ bìng ma" i'm saying this all day long
holaholax 2 years ago
i cried when i watch this. its too emtional...
fahrenheitlover12 2 years ago
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diorsonxxx 2 years ago
wwad a crybaby
Pilliowie 2 years ago
well... sometimes when u get these sarcastic comments... it's because..... they are jealous of what you have.
tyrannyme 2 years ago
wa,tang guo very ke ai..
tiramissu89 2 years ago
我的天那!他们。。。没大没小。it's kind of messed up. i feel horrible about feeling horrible for her!
vomiol 2 years ago
lol...that man patted tang guo on the head at the end....sad tho
BlackRedEmz 2 years ago
why did they said mean things 'bout her? and who?
Yiing1994 2 years ago
Oh, I think it was real, but she'll get over it when she deposits check at bank, lol. There's good & bad to everything, including being popular & on TV. I think they busted her up a little to evoke emotion from the audience and keep show "interesting". Maybe also she had been getting a little tough on the other girls & staff and they were putting her in here a place a little. I mean, good grief, she's a star of the show and very few girls can compete with her likeability & cuteness factor.
gibsoneagle 2 years ago 6
OMFG Made me cry LOL ;~;
xTeddies 2 years ago
i actually had tears
paintednapkin 2 years ago
aww, that person who said that shit about tang guo was mean and an ass hole, she is an innocent angel
poisun1 2 years ago
i think she's so cute, and innocent looking. Her personality matches her aperance cute and innocent
haitiloveme2 2 years ago 9
Poor girl. She doesn't take criticism very well. But neither would I if I were in her position, especially if it's false criticism. This show is messed up for teasing her like that.
MichioOkamiya 2 years ago 44
yeah man this is so wrong...
insolence 2 years ago 3
Who are they people that were saying mean things about Tang Guo?
0xNeeNax0 2 years ago 5
aaw! i just got to know her today and could tell she's a sweet angel! how cute! poor Tang Guo, How could they say that to her!
yifei4ever 2 years ago 7
ughh
how culd those bitches say those words to her
how rude..
they might be just jelous of her
geezes....
LeHoangOanh 2 years ago 7
This comment has received too many negative votes show
i think those girls around her are prettier..yet taller.
Applemug 2 years ago
omg.... how can they do that??? i mean its not her fault she looks that way.......
makes you wonder why she didnt come back????
i think that those girls are jealous cuz she looks cute even when she cries
feilunhai41597795 2 years ago 3
What? But she's still on the show.....
PreciousHime 2 years ago
no she isn't!!! she wasnt on the 2009 New Years Eve Specials.....
feilunhai41597795 2 years ago
BUt later this year, she was on the show! Seems like you don't often watch it
PreciousHime 2 years ago
well.... where do u live? im in the us so i dont exactly have access to it though i do love what i have watched
feilunhai41597795 2 years ago
I live in Canada, but I know Tang Guo is still on the show because of other mini-videos that Youtube viewers post(It says the date). But, if you want to watch the episodes, then go to sugoishowV 's channel on Youtube. Tought it doesn't have subs, you can still watch the epsiodes^^
PreciousHime 2 years ago 2
there are times when i hate this show.. it's too much..
yadanalin 2 years ago 6
yea... alot of people say its for effect, but what are the effects for? to get more people to watch? does this effect really make you want to continue watching the show??? i think not...
ahundredandcounting 2 years ago 4
what effects? is it some kind of photoshop effects but in-live studio version? is there such thing?
Applemug 2 years ago
no. "effects" is a direct translation from the chinese word "节目效果". i dont know how to describe it accurately, but it adds more entertainment to the show like for example when a person does something emotional so that the more people will find the show entertaining.
ahundredandcounting 2 years ago
hmmm... so it's kind of like it was all rehearsed so it's not genuine but it's a fake show? not genuine tears and emotion? =(
insolence 2 years ago
The effects are hurting people's feelings just to make a story out of it and entertaining viewers no matter what other people's feelings are. See how shes crying and trying to hold it in? Its hard to do that especially on TV but there goes the saying, "the price for fame"
BloodthirstyRina 2 years ago 2
The effects are hurting someone's feelings just to entertain viewers because that's what they do on this show. See how shes holding it in, trying not to cry then it all comes out? It's really hard, especially on a show but there goes the saying, "the price for fame"
BloodthirstyRina 2 years ago 3
lol yadanalin =-X
insolence 2 years ago
do stranger said it or the hey girl members?
JunLiii 2 years ago
IS THIS HER LAST EPISODE? IS SHE OUT ? SOMEBODY PLEAS REPLY, thanks
HAN2929 2 years ago
no, shes still on the show...
xbigbangluverx 2 years ago
where do you watch it ??
HAN2929 2 years ago
still treat it as a joke. what the hell? that mean-sayers ought to be shot.
lilfir 2 years ago
Somebody is jelous. Actually somebodies.
FireStormBaller 2 years ago
Aaaw noooo don't cry!! ;[
CallMeGup 2 years ago 9
why is this her last episode?
fauxperfectionist 2 years ago 2
WTF. y b so bitchy to Tang Guo? she is so pretty and nice! i feel so bad for her. and millions can even see her be humiliated!
iiWACKU 2 years ago 8
tang guo will leave???
how can that other girl laugh at tang guo on that situation...(yao yao) that is so mean...
i wish that girl will suffer like tang guo...
aiimEbeth11 2 years ago 3
It this her last episode ? .. it makes me sad
AznHk 2 years ago
Wow, I teared up when she did too. Because! she was so completely sincere! You can tell, when a girl is trying to act like the "victim" and when a girl like Tang Guo really is just an innocent hardworker getting targeted.
Poor thing, tons of the comments hit under the belt! That was just so vicious and judgmental. She was pretty strong to laugh at the beginning, I would have been really hurt if people said that to me and the whole room was laughing :(
scrapingskies 2 years ago 11
that was too rough.. !.. i would really cry if someone says that to me.. but she still has the courage to say thnx.. lolz.. thats a strong girl right there!..
jean22s 2 years ago 28
she so cute!! it made me almost cry wen she did
bonitabutterfly 2 years ago 9
how MEAN =.= if i were her, i would tell those nasty girls "so what? God made me look like this so its your problem, not mine!"
boombangfan 2 years ago 7
gosh...
wtf...
this is too mean!! if i was tang guo... i'll be pissed the freak... i'll be like...
"ya got something to say, say it to my face!"
man.. i hate it when girls (friends) talk about bad shit behinds eachothers back... 2 faced people... i'm not like that.. and i hate it when people do that... easpecially to tang guo...
you know... i don't like yu tu at all.. but whatever... it's only me in the world that don't like her...
myarronfahrenheit 2 years ago 4
omgsh those comments were like really mean! i love tang guo she doesnt ACT to be innocent, her face is just that way. have you see her dance? if she wanted to act innocent she wouldnt be dancing hella sexy up on stage for public
supershirleyx3 2 years ago 6
man it make me wanna cry with Tang Guo they sooo mean thing about her i think she sooo kute!!!!!!! gotta love Tang Guo
Panggers 2 years ago 3
I don't blame her for crying. Some of those comments were just plain mean. Golly.
Thanks for sharing!
daisychangstah 2 years ago 2
right...she was born to look like that..
poor tang guo, they misunderstood her..
kimipei 2 years ago 4
how MEAN..aww..
poor Tang Guo..
she's d one who earns d money 4 herself..but people still threats her bad!!
hate them..who are they?!
rHiEnNeXhZ 2 years ago 5
i really HATE and DON'T like yao yao!
i feel that she's plastic and alwaysthink of herself.
*i know some people would be mad at me because of sayin this, and probably i would get thumbs down. BUT, i really don't care, i just want to express how i fell.* I'm Sorry,
nelisseagmaro 2 years ago 10
i don't like yao yao too!!
gosh..
but i know what you mean..
myarronfahrenheit 2 years ago
thAnks=)!
nelisseagmaro 2 years ago
i think they have said too much, i mean even though Tang Guo is like that but they should not embarass her in front of so many people. I mean they should think that tang guo is a human being which is she's capable of making mistakes. If they don't like her attitude, just make up or confront her PRIVATELY. Because i know what is the feeling of being judge or being hurt in so many people. those people who judged her on T.V really made her sad. T.T
i just hope nothing bad will happen to her.:)
nelisseagmaro 2 years ago 7
it was kind of harsh but from a lot of videos i think tang guo isnt all that innocent either/..haha like hannah said that she was impolite to her mommy..buti dont know maybe it is just all for the show biz..anyways i still like tangguo
babeyelmo 2 years ago
Where can I found the whole episode with English subtitle?
cyntherklaas 2 years ago 5
I honestly think HSH is good show to prepare the girls for showbiz, but it sucks when you have your "friends" say that about you on live television. It's understandable to receive that kind of situation from the media when you become a star, but sometimes HSH is just cruel and wrong.
stupideskimo0o 2 years ago 9
Yeah I COMPLETELY agree with you- I think the show can make people want to embarrass others and really try to show another person's bad qualities to put them down mentally but also to viewers at home. I don't think it was really nice of the other girls to say that about Tang Guo- I mean we aren't perfect, so why should they have to target and hurt Tang Guo like that?
beautyinwalkingaway 2 years ago 10
i think the person that said that to tang guo was hannah, cause there this video about them having a feud of some sort, so i figured.
ayjennay 2 years ago 4
Yeahh- I saw that too =] LOL
beautyinwalkingaway 2 years ago 2
no this was before the hannah and tang guo feud. you can see from their outfits that this was the season before. poor tang guo.
sweetykisses 2 years ago 3
hannah and tang guo had a feud?
burningstarry1 2 years ago
this was last year..
but does anyone know when it oringally aired?
cammydiaz208 2 years ago
I think it was 10/06/08
Zoe232x 2 years ago
@ the end though she made me cry *TEARS* :(
L154N9UY3N 2 years ago 9
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I dont think tang guo is that cute
her face is too round
Hannah is way more super adorable *squeels*
L154N9UY3N 2 years ago
Hahas, I think Hannah can come off pretty or hot too. I'm not sure why but for me, it's always because she's mixed so I think she can pull it off. So in terms of who can pull cute off better, I would think it's Tang Guo.
But wow, I never knew people said that about Tang Guo. It's so mean! :( I think she just naturally looks like that~
hyukkiex3 2 years ago 8