@meowmebaby1 says. "Actress ghetto biotch is a piece of filth from Harlem or South side Chicago. It is easy to be an actress these days just sell drugs and whoo laa!"
Actually, she is from San Francisco, and she could easily afford to sue your ass for defamation.
@meowmebaby1 Wrong, you only start the sentence with a capital if it is followed by a full stop. Like this one, But if I wrote it like this it wouldn't be correct.
@meowmebaby1 says - Actress ghetto biotch is a piece of filth from Harlem or South side Chicago. It is easy to be an actress these days just sell drugs and whoo laa!
@dlazO109 You are fighting to destroy lives, not protect them. To take lives, not save them. You would turn love, the greatest thing the Gods ever gave humanity & turn it into some kind of exclusive club & deny anyone who dares to be different. They tried that before when certain restaurants & even certain churches were "whites only." People saw then it was wrong to deny someone their basic human rights as more & more people are discovering now. Against God & the forces of love you cannot win.
@phoenix1985 God offers eternal salvation to all who follow His commandments, in accordance with their knowledge and level of understanding of His laws. A Chinese person in the middle of China who has never heard of Jesus or the Catholic Church who have never read the Bible, can gain eternal life is he lives the best way he can according to the natural law written by God into each person.
@dlazO109 Every person on Earth is already granted eternal life. They dont need you, Jesus, the bible, or the catholic church to get it. I never saw being an evil homophobic bigot listed on the 10 commandments. But since it was all written by man it doesnt matter in the slightest. I've been living my life according to the natural law written by God into me. Not to mention what the God & Goddess have told & revealed to me. So again, you prove you are just trying to justify evil any way possible.
@dlazO109 I am fighting so that a couple that have been together for 50+ years & have raised a family together can be together when one of them dies. I am fighting so that children can be brought up in loving homes without fear or shame just because they have 2 mommies or 2 daddies. You. You are fighting to destroy. You are fighting to take the name of love & turn it into something shameful. You are fighting to turn love into something dirty.
@dlazO109 Do you want to know the thing that seperates us the most? It isnt our sexuality or our religions or or politics. Its what we are fighting for. I am fighting to create. You are fighting to destroy. I am fighting to create a world where no more children commit suicide due to anti-gay bullying. I am fighting so that no man must live a double life because he must keep a secret. I am fighting so that no parents willl kick their child out just for being gay.
@phoenix1985 I am fighting for the truth, love of God, obedience to His will and intolerance of sin, no matter the sacrifice needed to avoid sin. We must all "take up our cross" if we are to gain eternal life. I am fighting to gain all eternal life.Yes it may be painful and it may require sacrifice and pain in this life, but it is necessary to obtain eternal life and sacrifice can be used as a redemptive offering to save souls.
@dlazO109 You are fighting for lies, against God's will & in promotion of the sins of hate & bigotry. We all have eternal life. Without you. Without Jesus. Without the catholic church. Since homosexuality isnt a sin there is no reason to repent or sacrifice. You claim to be a lawyer. Where is your verification? You were willing to believe meowmebaby when they said they were a former Wiccan without verification. So what? You only believe people when its convenient to you? Typical of you.
@phoenix1985 How about you? You believed those two, who I still think is really you, without verification. I say if someone challenges anyone's credentials and the facts contained in any posting claiming something about themselves, they must provide a way to independently verify the credentials put forth here.
@dlazO109 Well since they arent really me, it doesnt matter. I believed them because they were reasonable, logical, sensible people. When the one said he was methodist I was concerned but he proved to be rational. The thing about the intenet is there is no way to prove anyone is who they say they are. I try to believe that people are who they say they are unless they indicate otherwise. Your irrational, illogical, unreasonable, & reprehensible behavior have led me to believe you arent a lawyer.
@phoenix1985 Than you are a little man and totally gullible! The manner and content of what one posts on the internet has nothing to do with what they say they really are. Heck, I am not even sure you are actually a wiccan without independent verification. You might be posting all this just because you get your jollies from doing it.
@dlazO109 No, its called believing in your fellow human beings. You should try it sometime. I am the little man? Again you describe yourself while trying to describe me. Since I am a Wiccan I dont have to prove it to you. Oh yes, I get my jollies from posting till all hours of the morning with an ignorant self-righteous hypocrite. I post here because I am doing the Gods work standing up against an evil doer intent on spreading evil & hate. That is a sacred mission you would never undnerstand.
@phoenix1985 Until you provide me proof that you are a wiccan and not some delusional wacko who yes, is just posting this stuff to get his jollies off, I can't accept your claim. If you want me to believe you are truly wiccan, I need more than your word
@dlazO109 Well too bad. My word is all you're getting. And since I dont give a flying fuck what you believe I am it really doesnt matter now does it. But oh, you were soooo willing to believe meowmebaby1 when s/he claimed it was devil worship. How convenient for you. Again, you only believe what you want to believe which again proves your childishness, reprehensible behavior, & extreme devotion to evil.
@phoenix1985 Well, there is no single authority that defines wicca. No ultimate authority who states what rules one must follow to be wiccan. As far as I am concerned, anybody can define wicca anyway they like. If they say they are wiccan and worship the devil, there is no ultimate temporal authority you can cite to to say that is incorrect.
@dlazO109 Again you prove your ignorance. There is authority, its called everything ever written by a Wiccan ever all states that there is no devil, no satan, & no hell. So if someone was to say that they would be wrong. All you do is highlight your apparant incapability to understand anything about any religion other than your own.
@phoenix1985 You mean that men wrote about wicca? Sounds all man made then to me. To paraphrase you "Well since the (remove "Bible", insert "what was written about wicca") was written by man it doesnt matter in the slightest does it".
@dlazO109 Yes men wrote about Wicca. Just as men wrote about Jesus and the bible. That is what your entire catholic relgion is based on: what men wrote about Jesus & about the bible. So again, you gain no points there. Move along.
@phoenix1985 No, the Catholic religion is based on what Jesus actually did, which men reported. Wicca is just about what men conjured up and wrote down.
@dlazO109 No, the catholic religion is based on what some people said jesus actually did. Did Jesus ever call homosexuality a sin? The answer is no, but you wont let that go. The whole bible was conjured up by men & written down. Again, you gain no points, move along.
@phoenix1985 And wicca was conjured up by men and written down. Jesus, who is alive today as he has been in spirit for all eternity and in body for the last 2000 years, has said homosexuality is a sin.
@dlazO109 Jesus never said homosexuality is a sin. So again you lie. Jesus has been dead for almost 2000 years now. So again you lie. Again, the bible was conjured up by men & written down. So you make no points. Move along already. Stop beating this dead horse.
@phoenix1985 You stop beating a dead horse by telling people the error of wicca. If you are really a wiccan, whatever the heck it is since there is no final arbiter to say what it is and what not wiccan. A man made region that a lot of delusional people pieced together from a hodge podge of their personal beliefs, which is, anything goes.
@dlazO109 Since there is no error in Wicca, there is no reason for me to stop telling it. Might I remind you that you brought religion into this. How about you stop telling people the error of catholicism? Since catholocism is also a man made religion that a lot of delusional people pieced together from a hodge podge of their personal beliefs which is, anything goes. See in Wicca there are a lot of things that dont go: lying, stealing, cheating, killing, raping, or hating. So you'e wrong again
@phoenix1985 . In Roman Catholicism there are a lot of things that dont go: lying, stealing, cheating, killing, raping, or hating. are all considered sins that could cause one to loose eternal life. So you'e wrong again Wicca is error. Catholicism is not. And i will keep posting that and I will keep posting that homosexual sex is a sin. Nothing will stop me form posting these truths!
@dlazO109 Apparantly spreading evil hate filled lies about innocent people goes in catholocism. I call that pretty evil. I havent been wrong once this entire time so I cant be wrong again. Wicca is not error, catholicism is as I have already demonstrating. I know nothing can stop you from posting evil hate filled bigoted lies about homosexuals but I'm asking you to be a decent person & stop. I know it would be EXTREMELY difficult for you to be a decent person & not spread evil but give it a try.
@phoenix1985 Teaching people about the teachings of Roman Catholicism is being decent because I am revealing the truth and love of God and the evil of homosexual sex. You want me to stop posting truth? NO WAY!
@dlazO109 Teaching people about the teachings of Roman Catholicism is being decent because I am revealing the truth and love of God and the evil of homosexual sex. You want me to stop posting truth? NO WAY!
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Your personal truth is another man's bullshit
.Funny how your god loves only some people.... even though jesus said to, :love your enemies".
@geezusispan Loving your enemies specifically means to save them from Hell by informing them of what constitutes sin. BTW. I presume that you also means that phoenix's personal truth is also another man's BS.
@dlazO109 Since there is no hell there is nothing to save them from. All you are doing is wanting to prevent them from leading good, decent, happy, normal lives. Homosexual sex & marriage are not sins & never will be. Since your personal truth is many people's BS you again make no points. Try again you epic failure.
@phoenix1985 Hell exists and all must be saved from it. All I am doing is wanting to have everyone go to Heaven. Homosexual sex & marriage are mortal sins & always will be. Since your personal truth is many everyone's BS you again make no points. Try again you epic failure.
@dlazO109 Spreading lies by calling homosexual sex evil & telling people they are going to hell just for loving is not decent. You do not spread the truth & love of God. You spread the evil & hatred of demons. I want you to stop posting lies. The only one of us posting truth is me.
@dlazO109 Since homosexuality isnt a sin let alone a grave sin you are only posting bigoted lies. Try again when you learn what the truth is. I've already told you what the truth is. All you have to do is listen.
@phoenix1985 Homosexuality is not a sin! Homosexual sex is a mortal sin! Persistent obstinacy in refusing to accept is as a sin can lead to eternal loss of your soul.I have told you this truth time and time again and will continue to do so!
@dlazO109 Homosexual sex is not a mortal sin. Refusing to accept it as a sin will only lead to a better & happier life for all. Refusing to accept it as a sin can not & will not lead to the eternal loss of your soul. Nothing can lead to the loss of your soul. Yes you have told me time & time again. And time & time again I have told you I know it is a lie. So does every good, decent, sane, rational person out there. So you can continue to tell your lies long after everyone has stopped listening.
@phoenix1985 So you can continue to tell your lies long after everyone has stopped listening.----- Does that everyone include the 2 billion Christians that believe as I believe?
@dlazO109 There are a lot of true Christians out there who dont believe as you believe & know that homosexuality isnt a sin. There are many true Christians out there who follow Jesus's teachings & love & accept homosexuals for who they are realizing they are commiting no sin.
@phoenix1985 You are using the "If a lot of people believe it it must be true fallacy. These Christians are in error also. Homosexual sex is a grave mortal sin. The Christ who is alive today has deemed it so.
@meowmebaby1 ha ha I knew this fake account was dlaz you fucking arsehole. It must have been difficult getting pregnant when you were raped. wWat did a fetus start growing in your rectum?
@dlazO109 In case you didnt know this there are a lot of christians who arent catholics: lutherans, baptists, methodists, presbyterians, the list goes on. Want to know something else? There are a lot of gay-inclusive churches out there. These are what we like to call True Christians. Those who follow the teachings of Jesus Christ & not the bigoted homophobic words of the evil men who ran the catholic church who made up lies & said Jesus said things when he didnt.
@phoenix1985 So they are in error and besides, they are not part of the one true Church, the Roman Catholic Church, which has unerringly taught the truth for the last 2000 years. If those people want to jeopardize their eternal salvation, they are free to do so. They are Christians though because of their Baptism, just ones who are in error, like you!
@dlazO109 No the ones in error are the bigoted homophobes like you. They are the true Christians, unlike you. The catholic church hasnt taught the truth once in over 2000 years. Since only evil people like you are jeopardizing their eternal salvation you may want to rethink your arguement. They arent in error. Again, that would be you, as I have already proven. Your religion is man made too. Notice how you ignore that the website says Wiccans dont worship the devil. Biased much?
@phoenix1985 Notice how you ignore that the website says Wiccans dont worship the devil----- well how do I know that what is posted is authoritative as there is no final authority I can check what to know if what is contained in these wiccan sites are correct and authoritative teachings or not? I can always check what anyone claims is true Christian teaching with the legitimate authority of the Catholic Church. If it contradicts Catholic teaching, which is God's teaching, it is in error.
@dlazO109 Since nowhere, in any book on Wicca written by a Wiccan does it say we worship the devil. Thats called conclusive evidence. Not to mention we do God's work & dont do evil like you do, well, duh. Since the catholic teaching isnt God's teaching, its in error. The catholic church spreading evil, bigotry, fear, hatred, & intolerance. Now that is the error. Those true Christians following the word of Jesus & spreading God's love, compassion, & tolerance. Those people arent in error.
@phoenix1985 But how can I trust any book on wicca since they were all written by man. Must be that wicca was made up by man and even if it wasn't how do I know which book is authoritative without a final authority to inform me which writings on wicca are authoritative and which are not? Who has the final authority in wicca to declare that anyone who claims to be a wiccan and worships the devil is in error? You have no final authority to say what it true and what is not!
@dlazO109 Since the bible was also man made & christianity was also man made. You are gaining no points here. Its simple. If any book agrees with the basic principles of Wicca than it is a legitimate book on Wicca. There is no final authority because the Gods alone keep control of their religion. They give control of it to its followers who will do their work. If they dont do the work of the Gods, like they do murder or homophobia, then they arent Wiccans.
@phoenix1985 And who is the final authority I can look to to make sure that when a person claims they are citing the basic principles of Wicca that they are indeed the legitimate basic principles of Wicca. What is some wiccan claims basi principles different from another wiccan? Who is the final, visible authority on earth that can tell me which set of basic principles are the correct principles?
@dlazO109 The Wiccan core beliefs were set down by Gerald Gardner. If something agrees with or atleast does not contradict the principles he set down, then it is or can be a part of Wicca. Someone claiming to be a Wiccan who worships the devil would not be in accordance with the core beleifs that state there is no devil or hell. Notice how you completely ignore the point I have consistently made that nowhere in any of the gospels of Jesus did he call homosexuality a sin.
@dlazO109 Let me sum up Wicca for you: Its too evolved for you to understand. You've proven that. So stop trying. As long as you choose to be ignorant than you will be ignorant. Wicca is for those who choose not to be ignorant.
@phoenix1985 And who is the final arbiter in wicca with the authority to definitively declare that wicca is a religion for those who choose not to be ignorant?
@dlazO109 Well you are ignorant and you dont understand it. It takes an enlightened & evolved mind to see what Wicca is. A religion of love, tolerance, compassion, equality, wisdom, & enlightenment. Wicca doesnt attract racists or sexists or homophobes because we know those things to be evil. And since enlightened & evolved people are never racist, sexist, or homophobic, that means that those who choose not to be ignorant of the real way the universe works find Wicca.
@phoenix1985 Sorry, but my problem with your statement is that neither you nor anyone else has any final authority to speak for what wicca is and what it is not! I do not know if your assertions of what wiccan beliefs consist of are correct. You have no authority that shows that other wiccans recognize what you teach about wicca as binding teachings.
@dlazO109 Since everything I have said is in accordance with Wiccan teachings & principles & beliefs, that means it is true. The core principles are set down. There doesnt need to be a final authority. The God & Goddess give Wiccans free will. No one turns to Wicca who isnt called. No one stays in Wicca if they dont believe in its principles. If they dont believe they leave which means they werent Wiccan. Its a simple concept that just completely escapes your simple minded grasp.
@dlazO109 The God & Goddess did. Through a man. You know, the same way you claim that the books of the bible came from god but through a man. You cant realy fault my religion when yours did the exact same thing. So I would stop pursuing this line of thinking.
@phoenix1985 But unlike Jesus, who continues to manifest himself visibly through miracles and his physical presence on earth, wicca does no such thing. And why have you not commented about the position of the non-Catholic Christian churches and their positions on homosexuality?
@dlazO109 People claim to have seen Jesus. No proof. There is no physical presence of Jesus on Earth. So you are lying there. Wiccans experience miracles all the time. Ask any real Wiccan. I've talked to the dead. Seen the future. Seen my past lives. Remember heaven. I've experienced things I couldnt begin to explain to you if we had all year. What did I say? I said there were gay inclusive churches. There are. I proved that. Why havent you commented on that?
@phoenix1985 And you claiming to have talked to the dead, seen the future, remember heaven? No proof! So you are lying there! Yes, I know there are gay inclusive Churches. The biggest one is the Roman Catholic Chruch! This is from "Ministry to Persons with a Homosexual Inclination:Guidelines for Pastoral Care from the US Catholic Bishops: "As baptized members of the Catholic community, persons with a homosexual
inclination continue to look to the Church for a place where they may live in---
@dlazO109 I'm not lying. You have no proof I'm lying. So you are lying there. The roman catholic church isnt gay inclusive. I've already proven that you dont understand the term gay inclusive. So again you lie. Being gay inclusive means accepting gays for who they are, realizing they arent commiting sins by being gay, getting gay married, or having gay sex. God. There is nothing you do understand is there? You've proven that you understand nothing.
@phoenix1985 Gay inclusive really means including gays into the church and helping them avoid the sin of homosexual sex. Any church that does not do that is not truly Christian as I have shown by citing to the positions of the Christians Churches you cited.
@dlazO109 Again you lie. Being gay inclusive really means accepting gays for who they are, realizing they arent sinning by having homosexual sex, respecting them, not trying to change them, & welcoming them with love & tolerance. None of which your church does. Anyone who does the things you describe arent really christian as evidenced by what Jesus said. The ones who are gay inclusive as it is actually defined are the real Christians following the teachings of Jesus.
@phoenix1985 How come when I cite quotes from Jesus that you don't like, you call it all BS. are you so picky as to which teachings of Jesus define, in your opinion, a true Christian? Why not accept ALL his teachings?
@dlazO109 I never called them bullshit. Again you lie. I just simply said I dont give a damn. If a Christian wants to follow the teachings of Jesus then by all means they should do so. As I am not Christian, why should I care? You, as a Christian, should care what Jesus said. And since he never said anything about homosexuality a sin, well, put 2 & 2 together.
@phoenix1985 But he did, and he does. Again, you can't just stop with the Bible when it comes to Jesus' teachings.And shouldn't all true Christians care about the Biblical teachings of Jesus about going to Hell for all eternity?
@dlazO109 You have proven you have no knowledge of the real meaning of the term "gay inclusive" you have misused the term several times already. Stop being in error. Being gay inclusive means fighting for gay rights, not trying to take them away. If your church spent 1/2 the money it spends fighting gay rights you could feed all the starving children in Africa or house thousands if not millions of homeless people. Shows where your priorities are: hate over love.
@phoenix1985 Can you cite to any certified financial documents that prove your assertion about the use of the 1/2 of money? And again, what is your comment about the other non-Catholic Christian Churches which I have shown you also assert that homosexual sex is a sin? Why just discuss the Catholic Church and ignore the Lutheran, Baptists, Methodists and Presbyterians that I have cited?
@dlazO109 It is a fact put out by your own church that they have donated millions to anti-gay causes & campaigns. That money would have been better spent caring for the sick, homeless, or starving. Again, I never said the religions were gay inclusive. I said some of the churches were. Which some are as I have proven. I've already won this point. Time to move on already. You keep trying to make a point where there is none to make so stop trying.
@dlazO109 Yes. They are. But not all the people in them are. The ones who follow the teachings of Jesus are the true Christians. And I havent met one true Christian who was racist, sexist, homophobic, or bigoted in any way. They follow Jesus's message of love, compassion, & tolerance. If you were to meet a true Christian you would undoubtedly call them evil sinners. Says a lot about you doesnt it.
@phoenix1985 So you do pick and choose among Jesus' teachings to suit your own needs and refuse to recognize ALL His teachings. Not surprised about you!
@dlazO109 I dont pick & choose any of Jesus's teachings because I dont follow them. So again you are wrong. You refuse to recognize all of Jesus's teachings too. Did he ever call homosexuality a sin? The answer is no. So who is picking & choosing? That would be you.
@phoenix1985 You pick and choose because you define a true christian terms of Jesus' teachings you like. When he teaches something you don't like, like homosexual sex being a mortal sin, oh, then you forget about those or call them non-existent.
@dlazO109 But since Jesus never said homosexual sex was a mortal sin you are wrong again. So who is picking & choosing? That would again, as I have said before, be you. Are you tired of being wrong yet? Because thats all you ever have been. I figured you would have gotten sick of it by now but apparantly you just love being wrong.
@phoenix1985 I love propounding what God teaches is right, and that is that homosexual sex is a mortal sin. I am not so arrogant as to claim I can ascertain the truth myself. I need to follow God's instructions to find the truth in the Catholic Church!
@dlazO109 God is right. Which means you are wrong. Homosexual sex is not, never has been, & never will be a mortal sin. Quote me the bible, chapter & verse, where Jesus said homosexuality was a sin. You cant because he didnt. So stop lying. Since the catholic church is run by greedy power hungry bigoted men & God has never relayed any instructions through it you are following the words & works of men, not God. You dont know God. I've revealed God to you & you called him evil. Says a lot about U
@phoenix1985 Jesus taught homosexuality is a sin, always will be. The God I worship is the one true God. Jesus rose from the dead and has been alive in body for the last 2000 years, Forget about the Bible only stuff. Don't be so ignorant of Catholic teaching which is God's teachings to look only to the Bible.So stupid to think that just because what someone said was not written down that they did not say it! I know the One True God and have been in the presence of Jesus. You have no real deity
@dlazO109 Quote me the bible chapter & verse where Jesus said homosexuality is a sin. You cant because he didnt. The "god" you worship is a bunch of demons. According to your religion Jesus rose from the dead & ascended to Heaven which means he hasnt been alive for about 2000 years. You have already proven you do not know the One True God & you have never been in the presence of Jesus. I have 3 real dieties: The God, Goddess, & Holy Spirit. So again you lie. Stop lying & serving evil.
@phoenix1985 Well, I guess we will go on and on repeating to each other. So I will repeat it the Bible is not the sole authority to look for Christ's teachings. What he taught that was not written down but passed on orally is just as binding as what he said that was written. I am beginning to believe that your god goddess and holy spirit is actually Satan in disguise! As for Jesus continued existence, he said, (In the Bible) "Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever (continued)
@dlazO109 The gospels of Jesus are the sole authority to look at for Jesus's teachings. Your oral tradition is just men saying that he said whatever they wanted him to say. Since there is no satan, my God, Goddess, & Holy Spirit cant be him in disguise. Since my Holy Trinity are on the side of good, love, & tolerance, that inherently means they cant be evil. Since your god is on the side of fear, hate, bigotry, prejudice, & intolerance, if anyone's god is a demon, its yours.
@phoenix1985 I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen. Matthew 28:20." Kind of hard to always be with us if He is dead, I have proven to know the One True God and I am now beginning to understand why some people view wiccans a devil worshipers!
@dlazO109 You have proven to know a false god of demons thats all. If you knew the One True God you wouldnt be an evil hate filled bigoted homophobe. The only people who think Wiccans are devil worshipers are evil people like you who hate things like love, compassion, equality, tolerance, goodness. You know, all the things God is really about.
@phoenix1985 Anyone who actually believes that homosexual sex is not a sin and preaches false compassion, false equality, false tolerance and false goodness, as you do is an ally of the Evil One and an enemy of God.
@dlazO109 Actually anyone who preaches homosexual sex isnt a sin, Since I dont preach false compassion, false equality, false tolerance and false goodness I cannot be an ally of the evil one because he doesnt exist. I'm not the enemy of God. God is compassion, equality, tolerance, & goodness. Everything you hate. If anyone is an enemy of God its you. I've proven that countless times already.
@dlazO109 None of the gospels of Jesus, including those not in the bible, ever show Jesus saying homosexuality is a sin. That you say he said it is a lie. You lie. You sin. You have no respect for & do not serve the one true God. You hate the one true God as evidenced by your continued devotion to a false god of evil, bigotry, hate, & intolerance.
@dlazO109 You are an absolute Idiot. You say that Jesus taught that homosexuality is a sin, THEN QUOTE THE BOOK AND VERSE IN THE GOSPEL where Jesus says that or SHUT THE FUCK UP and stop making a fool of yourself. BTW if you are a true Catholic then how about you start SCREAMING at the top of your lungs about the pedophile priests oh and about the FACT that the current Pope was a member of the HITLER YOUTH.
@jmt8525 Wile hy do you people use the Bible as the end all of Jesus teachings when it is not? The Bible contains the written teachings of Jesus while Sacred Tradition contains the teachings of Jesus passed on orally which were eventually codified in writing by the Catholic Church and set down in its Catechism.
@dlazO109 Since the sacred tradition, the catechism, & the catholic church have nothing to do with anything Jesus said or did you are just proving to be, as jmt8525 said "an absolute idiot" To quote him again "QUOTE THE BOOK AND VERSE IN THE GOSPEL where Jesus says that or SHUT THE FUCK UP and stop making a fool of yourself." I couldnt have said it better myself. Your sacred tradition, church, & catechism are just things created by man that have nothing to do with Jesus. So stop lying already.
@dlazO109 Why do people use the Bible as the end all of Jesus teachings? We dont. You are free to quote from any of the gospels of Jesus, even those not included in the bible that show he said homosexuality was a sin. But oh wait, he didnt. So you are lying again. When are you going to stop lying and making shit up? By your logic I can say Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. said he supports gay marriage. Why? Because he appeared to me & said he did. No proof of that but since you dont care about proof
@dlazO109 As evidenced by the fact that you believe in your sacred tradition & catechism even though we know Jesus said none of those things. Men said he did. No proof. We know he didnt say anything about homosexuality being a sin. So again, stop lying, stop wasting your life, & move on from being an evil sinful piece of shit & try actually doing something good with your life.
@phoenix1985 So if my grandfather told my father something and my father told me what my grandfather said and i wrote it down and gave it to my son in the form of a written statements which he would give to his son makes it reliable. But, if instead of writing it down, I told it orally to my son and he told it orally to his son, it is not reliable. Is that your position?
@dlazO109 And here I thought I was done with you. Oh well. Dare to dream. If someone doesnt say something when they are alive. But, after they die, you think they would have wanted something, & told other people that that someone had wanted that, it is a lie. Jesus, while alive, never said homosexuality was a sin. Never in any one of the gospels, including those not in the bible, did he ever say that. So you are saying he said something you have no evidence he ever said. You are lying.
@phoenix1985 You completely evaded my question to you. Please answer! PS I was watching a documentary on JFK. A close friend told of conversations that he had with JFK after JFK died, reporting what JFK said to him. Since he related the conversation orally, does that make him a liar as to what JFK said to him?
@dlazO109 No, but it doesnt make it true either. Did his statements seem like something JFK would have said? Or was it him saying he supported something that he never said he supported anywhere else? So you do admit Jesus ascended into Heaven & isnt alive anymore. Again, its about the content. What you are saying is the equivelant of an anti-racist who fought racism having people say, after his death, that he was a racist.
@phoenix1985 You have a thick head! Jesus resurrected with a glorified physical body, more alive physically then you are me.With that physically alive body, he ascended into Heaven where he is alive in the physical body from His Resurrection and for all eternity, never to die again! Got it? And Jesus teaching that homosexuality is a sin is entirely in keeping with that which Jesus said and was written in the approved Gospels.
@dlazO109 No. You just have a delusional mind. Jesus doesnt have a physical body. He is dead & gone. Saying that Jesus taught homosexuality was a sin, which he never said, is going completely against what he said in all of his gospels. Jesus spread a message of love, compassion, & tolerance. You say Jesus spread a message of evil, bigotry, & homophobia, which he never did. I'm not even Christian & I know the bible & Jesus better than you do. Enough with your bigoted delusions already.
@phoenix1985 There is no way I will allow a dupe like you to spread such misinformation and lies! Jesus is alive and taught that homosexuality is a sin. In all my 54 years of life, I have never heard of such rubbish as wicca!
@dlazO109 Since the only dupe here is you & the only one spreading misinformation & lies here is you, well, take a hint already. Jesus is dead. He never said homosexuality was a sin. Thats a fact. So stop lying. Yes, any religion that actually doesnt hate innocent people must be rubbish in your eyes. Please. The only one talking rubbish here is you. I've proven that countless times already. You have a delusional mind & no grasp on reality or human decency whatsoever.
@dlazO109 PS You have no right to allow or not allow me to do anything. Im not some catholic fool duped by bigoted men you can command. I'm a Wiccan. I get my ideas from the God & Goddess. Your sick twisted petty delusional ideas dont matter in the slightest.
@phoenix1985 You have no right to allow or not allow me to do anything--- My understanding is that you are a resident of Illinois. Well guess what? Gays can't get married in Illinois, so like thinking people like me ARE stopping people like you from marrying, just like in 43 other states!
@dlazO109 For now. They just passed marriage equality in the Washington Senate. There are several groups in Illinois pushing for marriage equality as we speak. Face it. Time is on our side. People are only growing more & more tolerant as the years go by. With each new generation grows a greater understanding & tolerance for homosexuality. Your bigotry is dying out. Its only a question of time. I've been here for countless years. I'm prepared to wait. Are you prepared for your inevitable loss?
@phoenix1985 So that answer explains why 62% of voters in Florida in 2008 banned both gay marriage and civil unions, and why in Maine, which on May 6, 2009 legislatively enacted gay marriage to only have it thrown out by voter referendum by 300,848 to 267,828 on November 3, 2009. Inevitable loss? LOL!
@dlazO109 What part of "for now" & "in time" do you not understand you delusional freak. I bet 50 years ago they thought there would never be a single state that allowed gay marriage. I bet 100 years ago they never thought there would be a state that allowed interracial marriage. Times change. People change. All things change in time. As I said before. Time is on our side. Also, in case you didnt know, they are pushing for marriage equality in NJ and there's going to be a revote in Maine.
@dlazO109 Before 1967 most states had laws banning interracial marriage. By 1967 there were none. We dont need luck. We have time, fate, & God on our side.
@dlazO109 And each law banning marriage equality will be overturned. Either by the courts or by the people. All things in time. As I said before. I'm prepared to wait. Are you prepared to lose as you inevitably will?
@phoenix1985 There are those of us who will be sure to remind the 6 Catholics on the Supreme Court that they are God's (the God of the Roman Catholic church) servants before they are the state's servants and they must obey God before man!
@dlazO109 If that is true then they shouldnt be on the Supreme Court. Judge's are supposed to be unbiased & fair. If your catholic judges cannot be that then they should not be allowed to be judges. They take an oath on the bible to uphold the Constitution. Not the other way around your ignorant bigoted dumbass.
@phoenix1985 Every true Catholic, anywhere in the world puts the laws of God and the Catholic Church, when the conflict with the civil law, above the civil law and, when in a position of authority in civil society, have a duty to act in accordance with Catholic teachings!
@dlazO109 So again, they should not be allowed to be judges or be on the Supreme Court. Thanks for making that point for me. Again, they put their hand on the bible & swear to uphold the Constitution. Not the other way around.
@dlazO109 I dont recall hearing them say that in the oath they take. Again, if they cant be unbiased, then they shouldnt be judges let alone on the Supreme Court. Thanks for making that point for me, again.
@phoenix1985 Well, those 3 judges on the Iowa Supreme Court that voted to say that gay marriage in Iowa is constitutional, as of November 2010 are now all ex judges because of that vote! Smart God fearing people who voted on that one!
@dlazO109 No, evil hate filled bigoted homophobic people voted on that one. The 3 judges made a logical, unbiased decision & you nutjobs turned it into a witch hunt. Again, you dont care who is doing evil, as long as evil gets done you are happy. You care nothing about God's will. You fly directly in the face of God's will & reject it. News Flash. Evil is not God's will. So stop doing evil, spreading evil, & being evil.
@dlazO109 If you were to support marriage equality you would be doing a great & wonderful good. You would be doing God's will. I support the fundamental rights of all men & women. Not just those I want to. You are free to worship whatever god you wish and believe as you like. But the second that belief is used against other people who have done no wrong & commited no sin than you have crossed the line. The second you try to take away anothers basic human rights, you cross the line.
@dlazO109 You wouldnt be supporting sin. Homosexual marriage isnt a sin. Never has been. Never will be. To support marriage equality would be to support love & justice. Both of which are God's will. You have no problem supporting an organization that defends pedophiles (pedophelia, by the way, is an actual sin). Your views on morality are more than just slightly twisted.
@phoenix1985 I support the entity, not the sinful acts of its leaders, and homosexual marriage has, is and will always be a sin! Gay marriage goes against God's will!
@dlazO109 Homosexual marriage isnt, never has been, & never will be a sin. Gay marriage does not go against God's will. It goes right along with God's will. The thing God wants us to do above all else in this world is love. Give love. Recieve love. Spread love. It doesnt matter if its man & woman, man & man, or woman & woman. Love is love. No matter the race, nationality, gender, religion, hair color, eye color, height, weight, none of that matters if you really love someone.
@dlazO109 I've already explained why it isnt a sin & doesnt go against God's will. You just saying it is & does proves nothing. You have no arguement. So stop trying.
@dlazO109 I didnt just declare it wasnt a sin. I explained why it wasnt. You know, explaining, something never did. God never revealed homosexuality to be a sin. Saying he did doesnt make it so. So stop lying. Men did that. Bigoted men. Homosexual marriage & sex arent sinful in the slightest. Love is never sinful. Love is what God wants us to do.
@phoenix1985 God revealed homosexual sex to be a sin as well as homosexual marriage I have proven that. So just give it up already. You are on the wrong side, the side of sin!
@phoenix1985 God declared homosexual sex and homosexual marriage to be a sin. I have proven that again and again. The sooner you realize that, the better off you will be.
@dlazO109 You've never proven God declared homosexual sex and homosexual marriage to be a sin even once let alone again & again. The sooner you realize that, the better off you will be.
@phoenix1985 I certainly have proven it. Unfortunately for you, you never have proven a point so there was never any need to disprove something that was not proven in the first place. I get a directed verdict!
@dlazO109 Sure. You just keep telling yourself that you delusional freak. You just keep telling yourself that as I sit here laughing hysterically at your utter ineptitude. Not to mention your childishness at never being willing to admit you've been proven wrong time after time after time. So you can just keep lying to yourself, telling yourself that you've won, we both know its a lie. I can sleep soundly knowing that I have completely & utterly won over your sorry ass.
@dlazO109 No doubt. The difference is that i'm right & you are wrong. But since its always been that way I would figure you'd be used to it by now. Goodbye loser. Have fun in your land of make believe that you live in. I'll be existing outside of any delusions. You should try it sometime. Would probably do you some good.
@dlazO109 Are you actually serious with this whole argument? You need to stop your radical bigotry in God's name, for that is a grave sin. As a practicing Catholic I would never bash a gay person especially in such an anonymous and rude way! What is wrong with you? God made us all, ergo He loves us all. Don't get so caught up in the politics of religion and just remember the basics of our faith!
@dlazO109 Are you actually serious with this whole argument? You need to stop your radical bigotry in God's name, for that is a grave sin. As a practicing Catholic I would never bash a gay person especially in such an anonymous and rude way! What is wrong with you? God made us all, ergo He loves us all. Don't get so caught up in the politics of religion and just remember the basics of our faith!
@dlazO109 You do know what everything you say sounds like right? The delusional ravings of a lunatic acting like a child who can only say "nu-uh" & "I know you are but what am I." Its laughable. You are incompetent to the extreme. You have proven that time & time again. IF you are a lawyer, & that is a huge if, then you must have a 0% success rate if a 26 year old who's only legal training has been from watching Law & Order can win against you. So long loser. Have fun in your delusional mind.
@dlazO109 You do know what everything you say sounds like right? The delusional ravings of a lunatic acting like a child who can only say "nu-uh" & "I know you are but what am I." Its laughable. You are incompetent to the extreme. You have proven that time & time again. IF you are a lawyer, & that is a huge if, then you must have a 0% success rate if a 26 year old who's only legal training has been from watching Law & Order can win against you. So long loser. Have fun in your delusional mind.
@dlazO109 You do know what everything you say sounds like right? The delusional ravings of a lunatic acting like a child who can only say "nu-uh" & "I know you are but what am I." Its laughable. You are incompetent to the extreme. You have proven that time & time again. IF you are a lawyer, & that is a huge if, then you must have a 0% success rate if a 26 year old who's only legal training has been from watching Law & Order can win against you. So long loser. Have fun in your delusional mind.
@dlazO109 I have, however, proven why homosexual marriage & sex arent sins. So you can just retire now. You've been utterly defeated in every which way. And, seriously, is a fucking lame ass gay joke the best you've got? I guess it must be. Although its hard to tell your best from your worst, they lie so very very close together.
@phoenix1985 I have been the one to prove that homosexual sex and marriage is a sin. You have never even made a point! You lost right from the start! And besides, you were the one to admit that you have an FA!
@dlazO109 You have never proven that homosexual sex & marriage are sins. I've made many points. You are just too stubborn & stupid to admit that. I won from the very beginning. Why? Because I had God & truth on my side. So you just keep on lying to yourself telling yourself that you've won. Everyone else knows you havent. So if you want to keep lying to yourself thats your business. Face it. I made countless successful points. You've yet to make one.
@phoenix1985 I have proved God has stated homosexual sex and marriage is a sin. That is the truth. The majority of people in 44 states feel the same. BTW are you aware that the new Hungarian constitution that went into effect 1/1/12, defines marriage as between a man and woman and in its preamble states "We acknowledge the nation-preserving role of the Christian faith," Imagine that! A brand new constitution that states such things!
@dlazO109 says - I have proved God has stated homosexual sex and marriage is a sin. That is the truth. The majority of people in 44 states feel the same.
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1)You can't prove anything about a mythical character...... 2)Aren't YOU the guy that was extolloing argumentum ad populum , just he other day?
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You also wrote -"We acknowledge the nation-preserving role of the Christian faith," Imagine that! A brand new constitution that states such things!
@dlazO109 says - I have proved God has stated homosexual sex and marriage is a sin. That is the truth. The majority of people in 44 states feel the same.
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1)You can't prove anything about a mythical character...... 2)Aren't YOU the guy that was extolloing argumentum ad populum , just he other day?
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You also wrote -"We acknowledge the nation-preserving role of the Christian faith," Imagine that! A brand new constitution that states such things!
@dlazO109 wrote - the new Hungarian constitution that went into effect 1/1/12, defines marriage as between a man and woman and in its preamble states "We acknowledge the nation-preserving role of the Christian faith," Imagine that! A brand new constitution that states such things!
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1st amendment - Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; etc.
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That's how we roll in the US! Why don't you move to Hungary?
@geezusispah Nah! I'll stay here to work and change things. If a completely communist nation can go from what they had under communism to what is in Hungary now, who knows what can happen here?
@dlazO109 So a nation likes Hungary takes a step backwards & you want America to follow. Yes you want to change things, for the worse. You want to destroy everything America stands for: liberty & justice for all, equal protection under the law, & seperation of church & state. If you want to go live in some backwards christian nation than leave. But leave us good & decent Americans our beloved country that we actually care about.
I like men.
dlazO109 2 weeks ago
@dlazO109 Did your new account get hacked?
mylittlekittens 2 weeks ago
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@meowmebaby1 says. "Actress ghetto biotch is a piece of filth from Harlem or South side Chicago. It is easy to be an actress these days just sell drugs and whoo laa!"
Actually, she is from San Francisco, and she could easily afford to sue your ass for defamation.
mylittlekittens 3 weeks ago
@dlazO109 He posted on a Spider-man video too, take that Cameron Dlaz!
CosmicUndeadElf 4 weeks ago
@CosmicUndeadElf What on earth are you talking about?
dlazO109 4 weeks ago
@dlazO109 When I first read your name I thought it said Diaz, so I decided to use it.
CosmicUndeadElf 4 weeks ago
@meowmebaby1 Wrong, you only start the sentence with a capital if it is followed by a full stop. Like this one, But if I wrote it like this it wouldn't be correct.
CosmicUndeadElf 4 weeks ago
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@meowmebaby1 says - Actress ghetto biotch is a piece of filth from Harlem or South side Chicago. It is easy to be an actress these days just sell drugs and whoo laa!
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Racist much? Keep up the fine work!
geezusispan 4 weeks ago
@dlazO109 You are fighting to destroy lives, not protect them. To take lives, not save them. You would turn love, the greatest thing the Gods ever gave humanity & turn it into some kind of exclusive club & deny anyone who dares to be different. They tried that before when certain restaurants & even certain churches were "whites only." People saw then it was wrong to deny someone their basic human rights as more & more people are discovering now. Against God & the forces of love you cannot win.
phoenix1985 1 month ago
@phoenix1985 God offers eternal salvation to all who follow His commandments, in accordance with their knowledge and level of understanding of His laws. A Chinese person in the middle of China who has never heard of Jesus or the Catholic Church who have never read the Bible, can gain eternal life is he lives the best way he can according to the natural law written by God into each person.
dlazO109 1 month ago
@dlazO109 Every person on Earth is already granted eternal life. They dont need you, Jesus, the bible, or the catholic church to get it. I never saw being an evil homophobic bigot listed on the 10 commandments. But since it was all written by man it doesnt matter in the slightest. I've been living my life according to the natural law written by God into me. Not to mention what the God & Goddess have told & revealed to me. So again, you prove you are just trying to justify evil any way possible.
phoenix1985 1 month ago
@dlazO109 I am fighting so that a couple that have been together for 50+ years & have raised a family together can be together when one of them dies. I am fighting so that children can be brought up in loving homes without fear or shame just because they have 2 mommies or 2 daddies. You. You are fighting to destroy. You are fighting to take the name of love & turn it into something shameful. You are fighting to turn love into something dirty.
phoenix1985 1 month ago
@dlazO109 Do you want to know the thing that seperates us the most? It isnt our sexuality or our religions or or politics. Its what we are fighting for. I am fighting to create. You are fighting to destroy. I am fighting to create a world where no more children commit suicide due to anti-gay bullying. I am fighting so that no man must live a double life because he must keep a secret. I am fighting so that no parents willl kick their child out just for being gay.
phoenix1985 1 month ago
@phoenix1985 I am fighting for the truth, love of God, obedience to His will and intolerance of sin, no matter the sacrifice needed to avoid sin. We must all "take up our cross" if we are to gain eternal life. I am fighting to gain all eternal life.Yes it may be painful and it may require sacrifice and pain in this life, but it is necessary to obtain eternal life and sacrifice can be used as a redemptive offering to save souls.
dlazO109 1 month ago
@dlazO109 You are fighting for lies, against God's will & in promotion of the sins of hate & bigotry. We all have eternal life. Without you. Without Jesus. Without the catholic church. Since homosexuality isnt a sin there is no reason to repent or sacrifice. You claim to be a lawyer. Where is your verification? You were willing to believe meowmebaby when they said they were a former Wiccan without verification. So what? You only believe people when its convenient to you? Typical of you.
phoenix1985 1 month ago
@phoenix1985 How about you? You believed those two, who I still think is really you, without verification. I say if someone challenges anyone's credentials and the facts contained in any posting claiming something about themselves, they must provide a way to independently verify the credentials put forth here.
dlazO109 1 month ago
@dlazO109 Well since they arent really me, it doesnt matter. I believed them because they were reasonable, logical, sensible people. When the one said he was methodist I was concerned but he proved to be rational. The thing about the intenet is there is no way to prove anyone is who they say they are. I try to believe that people are who they say they are unless they indicate otherwise. Your irrational, illogical, unreasonable, & reprehensible behavior have led me to believe you arent a lawyer.
phoenix1985 1 month ago
@phoenix1985 Than you are a little man and totally gullible! The manner and content of what one posts on the internet has nothing to do with what they say they really are. Heck, I am not even sure you are actually a wiccan without independent verification. You might be posting all this just because you get your jollies from doing it.
dlazO109 1 month ago
@dlazO109 No, its called believing in your fellow human beings. You should try it sometime. I am the little man? Again you describe yourself while trying to describe me. Since I am a Wiccan I dont have to prove it to you. Oh yes, I get my jollies from posting till all hours of the morning with an ignorant self-righteous hypocrite. I post here because I am doing the Gods work standing up against an evil doer intent on spreading evil & hate. That is a sacred mission you would never undnerstand.
phoenix1985 1 month ago
@phoenix1985 Until you provide me proof that you are a wiccan and not some delusional wacko who yes, is just posting this stuff to get his jollies off, I can't accept your claim. If you want me to believe you are truly wiccan, I need more than your word
dlazO109 1 month ago
@dlazO109 Well too bad. My word is all you're getting. And since I dont give a flying fuck what you believe I am it really doesnt matter now does it. But oh, you were soooo willing to believe meowmebaby1 when s/he claimed it was devil worship. How convenient for you. Again, you only believe what you want to believe which again proves your childishness, reprehensible behavior, & extreme devotion to evil.
phoenix1985 1 month ago
@phoenix1985 Well, there is no single authority that defines wicca. No ultimate authority who states what rules one must follow to be wiccan. As far as I am concerned, anybody can define wicca anyway they like. If they say they are wiccan and worship the devil, there is no ultimate temporal authority you can cite to to say that is incorrect.
dlazO109 1 month ago
@dlazO109 Again you prove your ignorance. There is authority, its called everything ever written by a Wiccan ever all states that there is no devil, no satan, & no hell. So if someone was to say that they would be wrong. All you do is highlight your apparant incapability to understand anything about any religion other than your own.
phoenix1985 1 month ago
@phoenix1985 You mean that men wrote about wicca? Sounds all man made then to me. To paraphrase you "Well since the (remove "Bible", insert "what was written about wicca") was written by man it doesnt matter in the slightest does it".
dlazO109 1 month ago
@dlazO109 Yes men wrote about Wicca. Just as men wrote about Jesus and the bible. That is what your entire catholic relgion is based on: what men wrote about Jesus & about the bible. So again, you gain no points there. Move along.
phoenix1985 1 month ago
@phoenix1985 No, the Catholic religion is based on what Jesus actually did, which men reported. Wicca is just about what men conjured up and wrote down.
dlazO109 1 month ago
@dlazO109 No, the catholic religion is based on what some people said jesus actually did. Did Jesus ever call homosexuality a sin? The answer is no, but you wont let that go. The whole bible was conjured up by men & written down. Again, you gain no points, move along.
phoenix1985 1 month ago
@phoenix1985 And wicca was conjured up by men and written down. Jesus, who is alive today as he has been in spirit for all eternity and in body for the last 2000 years, has said homosexuality is a sin.
dlazO109 1 month ago
@dlazO109 Jesus never said homosexuality is a sin. So again you lie. Jesus has been dead for almost 2000 years now. So again you lie. Again, the bible was conjured up by men & written down. So you make no points. Move along already. Stop beating this dead horse.
phoenix1985 1 month ago
@phoenix1985 You stop beating a dead horse by telling people the error of wicca. If you are really a wiccan, whatever the heck it is since there is no final arbiter to say what it is and what not wiccan. A man made region that a lot of delusional people pieced together from a hodge podge of their personal beliefs, which is, anything goes.
dlazO109 1 month ago
@dlazO109 Since there is no error in Wicca, there is no reason for me to stop telling it. Might I remind you that you brought religion into this. How about you stop telling people the error of catholicism? Since catholocism is also a man made religion that a lot of delusional people pieced together from a hodge podge of their personal beliefs which is, anything goes. See in Wicca there are a lot of things that dont go: lying, stealing, cheating, killing, raping, or hating. So you'e wrong again
phoenix1985 1 month ago
@phoenix1985 . In Roman Catholicism there are a lot of things that dont go: lying, stealing, cheating, killing, raping, or hating. are all considered sins that could cause one to loose eternal life. So you'e wrong again Wicca is error. Catholicism is not. And i will keep posting that and I will keep posting that homosexual sex is a sin. Nothing will stop me form posting these truths!
dlazO109 1 month ago
@dlazO109 Apparantly spreading evil hate filled lies about innocent people goes in catholocism. I call that pretty evil. I havent been wrong once this entire time so I cant be wrong again. Wicca is not error, catholicism is as I have already demonstrating. I know nothing can stop you from posting evil hate filled bigoted lies about homosexuals but I'm asking you to be a decent person & stop. I know it would be EXTREMELY difficult for you to be a decent person & not spread evil but give it a try.
phoenix1985 1 month ago
@phoenix1985 Teaching people about the teachings of Roman Catholicism is being decent because I am revealing the truth and love of God and the evil of homosexual sex. You want me to stop posting truth? NO WAY!
dlazO109 1 month ago
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@dlazO109 Teaching people about the teachings of Roman Catholicism is being decent because I am revealing the truth and love of God and the evil of homosexual sex. You want me to stop posting truth? NO WAY!
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Your personal truth is another man's bullshit
.Funny how your god loves only some people.... even though jesus said to, :love your enemies".
geezusispan 4 weeks ago
@geezusispan Loving your enemies specifically means to save them from Hell by informing them of what constitutes sin. BTW. I presume that you also means that phoenix's personal truth is also another man's BS.
dlazO109 4 weeks ago
@dlazO109 Since there is no hell there is nothing to save them from. All you are doing is wanting to prevent them from leading good, decent, happy, normal lives. Homosexual sex & marriage are not sins & never will be. Since your personal truth is many people's BS you again make no points. Try again you epic failure.
phoenix1985 4 weeks ago
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@phoenix1985 Hell exists and all must be saved from it. All I am doing is wanting to have everyone go to Heaven. Homosexual sex & marriage are mortal sins & always will be. Since your personal truth is many everyone's BS you again make no points. Try again you epic failure.
dlazO109 4 weeks ago
@dlazO109 Spreading lies by calling homosexual sex evil & telling people they are going to hell just for loving is not decent. You do not spread the truth & love of God. You spread the evil & hatred of demons. I want you to stop posting lies. The only one of us posting truth is me.
phoenix1985 4 weeks ago
@phoenix1985 I am the only one posting theological truth here. Homosexuality is a grave sin.
dlazO109 4 weeks ago
@dlazO109 Since homosexuality isnt a sin let alone a grave sin you are only posting bigoted lies. Try again when you learn what the truth is. I've already told you what the truth is. All you have to do is listen.
phoenix1985 4 weeks ago
@phoenix1985 Homosexuality is not a sin! Homosexual sex is a mortal sin! Persistent obstinacy in refusing to accept is as a sin can lead to eternal loss of your soul.I have told you this truth time and time again and will continue to do so!
dlazO109 4 weeks ago
@dlazO109 Homosexual sex is not a mortal sin. Refusing to accept it as a sin will only lead to a better & happier life for all. Refusing to accept it as a sin can not & will not lead to the eternal loss of your soul. Nothing can lead to the loss of your soul. Yes you have told me time & time again. And time & time again I have told you I know it is a lie. So does every good, decent, sane, rational person out there. So you can continue to tell your lies long after everyone has stopped listening.
phoenix1985 4 weeks ago
@phoenix1985 So you can continue to tell your lies long after everyone has stopped listening.----- Does that everyone include the 2 billion Christians that believe as I believe?
dlazO109 4 weeks ago
@dlazO109 There are a lot of true Christians out there who dont believe as you believe & know that homosexuality isnt a sin. There are many true Christians out there who follow Jesus's teachings & love & accept homosexuals for who they are realizing they are commiting no sin.
phoenix1985 4 weeks ago
@phoenix1985 You are using the "If a lot of people believe it it must be true fallacy. These Christians are in error also. Homosexual sex is a grave mortal sin. The Christ who is alive today has deemed it so.
dlazO109 4 weeks ago
@dlazO109 leave the homos alone dlaz you fucking bigot.
prochoicenz 4 weeks ago
@prochoicenz Please tell me what I am "doing" to them other than posting information?
dlazO109 4 weeks ago
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@prochoicenz Please tell me what I am "doing" to them other than posting information?
dlazO109 4 weeks ago
@prochoicenz Only if you homos leave us normal people along you biggot faggot
meowmebaby1 4 weeks ago
@meowmebaby1 ha ha I knew this fake account was dlaz you fucking arsehole. It must have been difficult getting pregnant when you were raped. wWat did a fetus start growing in your rectum?
prochoicenz 4 weeks ago
@prochoicenz If you want to believe that, can't stop ya!
dlazO109 4 weeks ago
@dlazO109 In case you didnt know this there are a lot of christians who arent catholics: lutherans, baptists, methodists, presbyterians, the list goes on. Want to know something else? There are a lot of gay-inclusive churches out there. These are what we like to call True Christians. Those who follow the teachings of Jesus Christ & not the bigoted homophobic words of the evil men who ran the catholic church who made up lies & said Jesus said things when he didnt.
phoenix1985 4 weeks ago
@phoenix1985 So they are in error and besides, they are not part of the one true Church, the Roman Catholic Church, which has unerringly taught the truth for the last 2000 years. If those people want to jeopardize their eternal salvation, they are free to do so. They are Christians though because of their Baptism, just ones who are in error, like you!
dlazO109 4 weeks ago
@dlazO109 No the ones in error are the bigoted homophobes like you. They are the true Christians, unlike you. The catholic church hasnt taught the truth once in over 2000 years. Since only evil people like you are jeopardizing their eternal salvation you may want to rethink your arguement. They arent in error. Again, that would be you, as I have already proven. Your religion is man made too. Notice how you ignore that the website says Wiccans dont worship the devil. Biased much?
phoenix1985 4 weeks ago
@phoenix1985 Notice how you ignore that the website says Wiccans dont worship the devil----- well how do I know that what is posted is authoritative as there is no final authority I can check what to know if what is contained in these wiccan sites are correct and authoritative teachings or not? I can always check what anyone claims is true Christian teaching with the legitimate authority of the Catholic Church. If it contradicts Catholic teaching, which is God's teaching, it is in error.
dlazO109 4 weeks ago
@dlazO109 Since nowhere, in any book on Wicca written by a Wiccan does it say we worship the devil. Thats called conclusive evidence. Not to mention we do God's work & dont do evil like you do, well, duh. Since the catholic teaching isnt God's teaching, its in error. The catholic church spreading evil, bigotry, fear, hatred, & intolerance. Now that is the error. Those true Christians following the word of Jesus & spreading God's love, compassion, & tolerance. Those people arent in error.
phoenix1985 4 weeks ago
@phoenix1985 But how can I trust any book on wicca since they were all written by man. Must be that wicca was made up by man and even if it wasn't how do I know which book is authoritative without a final authority to inform me which writings on wicca are authoritative and which are not? Who has the final authority in wicca to declare that anyone who claims to be a wiccan and worships the devil is in error? You have no final authority to say what it true and what is not!
dlazO109 4 weeks ago
@dlazO109 Since the bible was also man made & christianity was also man made. You are gaining no points here. Its simple. If any book agrees with the basic principles of Wicca than it is a legitimate book on Wicca. There is no final authority because the Gods alone keep control of their religion. They give control of it to its followers who will do their work. If they dont do the work of the Gods, like they do murder or homophobia, then they arent Wiccans.
phoenix1985 4 weeks ago
@phoenix1985 And who is the final authority I can look to to make sure that when a person claims they are citing the basic principles of Wicca that they are indeed the legitimate basic principles of Wicca. What is some wiccan claims basi principles different from another wiccan? Who is the final, visible authority on earth that can tell me which set of basic principles are the correct principles?
dlazO109 4 weeks ago
@dlazO109 The Wiccan core beliefs were set down by Gerald Gardner. If something agrees with or atleast does not contradict the principles he set down, then it is or can be a part of Wicca. Someone claiming to be a Wiccan who worships the devil would not be in accordance with the core beleifs that state there is no devil or hell. Notice how you completely ignore the point I have consistently made that nowhere in any of the gospels of Jesus did he call homosexuality a sin.
phoenix1985 4 weeks ago
@dlazO109 Let me sum up Wicca for you: Its too evolved for you to understand. You've proven that. So stop trying. As long as you choose to be ignorant than you will be ignorant. Wicca is for those who choose not to be ignorant.
phoenix1985 4 weeks ago
@phoenix1985 And who is the final arbiter in wicca with the authority to definitively declare that wicca is a religion for those who choose not to be ignorant?
dlazO109 4 weeks ago
@dlazO109 Well you are ignorant and you dont understand it. It takes an enlightened & evolved mind to see what Wicca is. A religion of love, tolerance, compassion, equality, wisdom, & enlightenment. Wicca doesnt attract racists or sexists or homophobes because we know those things to be evil. And since enlightened & evolved people are never racist, sexist, or homophobic, that means that those who choose not to be ignorant of the real way the universe works find Wicca.
phoenix1985 4 weeks ago
@phoenix1985 Sorry, but my problem with your statement is that neither you nor anyone else has any final authority to speak for what wicca is and what it is not! I do not know if your assertions of what wiccan beliefs consist of are correct. You have no authority that shows that other wiccans recognize what you teach about wicca as binding teachings.
dlazO109 4 weeks ago
@dlazO109 Since everything I have said is in accordance with Wiccan teachings & principles & beliefs, that means it is true. The core principles are set down. There doesnt need to be a final authority. The God & Goddess give Wiccans free will. No one turns to Wicca who isnt called. No one stays in Wicca if they dont believe in its principles. If they dont believe they leave which means they werent Wiccan. Its a simple concept that just completely escapes your simple minded grasp.
phoenix1985 4 weeks ago
@phoenix1985 Who set down the core principles? A man?
dlazO109 4 weeks ago
@dlazO109 The God & Goddess did. Through a man. You know, the same way you claim that the books of the bible came from god but through a man. You cant realy fault my religion when yours did the exact same thing. So I would stop pursuing this line of thinking.
phoenix1985 4 weeks ago
@phoenix1985 But unlike Jesus, who continues to manifest himself visibly through miracles and his physical presence on earth, wicca does no such thing. And why have you not commented about the position of the non-Catholic Christian churches and their positions on homosexuality?
dlazO109 4 weeks ago
@dlazO109 People claim to have seen Jesus. No proof. There is no physical presence of Jesus on Earth. So you are lying there. Wiccans experience miracles all the time. Ask any real Wiccan. I've talked to the dead. Seen the future. Seen my past lives. Remember heaven. I've experienced things I couldnt begin to explain to you if we had all year. What did I say? I said there were gay inclusive churches. There are. I proved that. Why havent you commented on that?
phoenix1985 4 weeks ago
@phoenix1985 And you claiming to have talked to the dead, seen the future, remember heaven? No proof! So you are lying there! Yes, I know there are gay inclusive Churches. The biggest one is the Roman Catholic Chruch! This is from "Ministry to Persons with a Homosexual Inclination:Guidelines for Pastoral Care from the US Catholic Bishops: "As baptized members of the Catholic community, persons with a homosexual
inclination continue to look to the Church for a place where they may live in---
dlazO109 4 weeks ago
@dlazO109 I'm not lying. You have no proof I'm lying. So you are lying there. The roman catholic church isnt gay inclusive. I've already proven that you dont understand the term gay inclusive. So again you lie. Being gay inclusive means accepting gays for who they are, realizing they arent commiting sins by being gay, getting gay married, or having gay sex. God. There is nothing you do understand is there? You've proven that you understand nothing.
phoenix1985 4 weeks ago
@phoenix1985 Gay inclusive really means including gays into the church and helping them avoid the sin of homosexual sex. Any church that does not do that is not truly Christian as I have shown by citing to the positions of the Christians Churches you cited.
dlazO109 4 weeks ago
@dlazO109 Again you lie. Being gay inclusive really means accepting gays for who they are, realizing they arent sinning by having homosexual sex, respecting them, not trying to change them, & welcoming them with love & tolerance. None of which your church does. Anyone who does the things you describe arent really christian as evidenced by what Jesus said. The ones who are gay inclusive as it is actually defined are the real Christians following the teachings of Jesus.
phoenix1985 4 weeks ago
@phoenix1985 How come when I cite quotes from Jesus that you don't like, you call it all BS. are you so picky as to which teachings of Jesus define, in your opinion, a true Christian? Why not accept ALL his teachings?
dlazO109 4 weeks ago
@dlazO109 I never called them bullshit. Again you lie. I just simply said I dont give a damn. If a Christian wants to follow the teachings of Jesus then by all means they should do so. As I am not Christian, why should I care? You, as a Christian, should care what Jesus said. And since he never said anything about homosexuality a sin, well, put 2 & 2 together.
phoenix1985 4 weeks ago
@phoenix1985 But he did, and he does. Again, you can't just stop with the Bible when it comes to Jesus' teachings.And shouldn't all true Christians care about the Biblical teachings of Jesus about going to Hell for all eternity?
dlazO109 4 weeks ago
@dlazO109 You have proven you have no knowledge of the real meaning of the term "gay inclusive" you have misused the term several times already. Stop being in error. Being gay inclusive means fighting for gay rights, not trying to take them away. If your church spent 1/2 the money it spends fighting gay rights you could feed all the starving children in Africa or house thousands if not millions of homeless people. Shows where your priorities are: hate over love.
phoenix1985 4 weeks ago
@phoenix1985 Can you cite to any certified financial documents that prove your assertion about the use of the 1/2 of money? And again, what is your comment about the other non-Catholic Christian Churches which I have shown you also assert that homosexual sex is a sin? Why just discuss the Catholic Church and ignore the Lutheran, Baptists, Methodists and Presbyterians that I have cited?
dlazO109 4 weeks ago
@dlazO109 It is a fact put out by your own church that they have donated millions to anti-gay causes & campaigns. That money would have been better spent caring for the sick, homeless, or starving. Again, I never said the religions were gay inclusive. I said some of the churches were. Which some are as I have proven. I've already won this point. Time to move on already. You keep trying to make a point where there is none to make so stop trying.
phoenix1985 4 weeks ago
@phoenix1985 So what is your position on other Christian religions that say that homosexuality is sinful? Are they homophobic and bigoted?
dlazO109 4 weeks ago
@dlazO109 Yes. They are. But not all the people in them are. The ones who follow the teachings of Jesus are the true Christians. And I havent met one true Christian who was racist, sexist, homophobic, or bigoted in any way. They follow Jesus's message of love, compassion, & tolerance. If you were to meet a true Christian you would undoubtedly call them evil sinners. Says a lot about you doesnt it.
phoenix1985 4 weeks ago
@phoenix1985 So you do pick and choose among Jesus' teachings to suit your own needs and refuse to recognize ALL His teachings. Not surprised about you!
dlazO109 4 weeks ago
@dlazO109 I dont pick & choose any of Jesus's teachings because I dont follow them. So again you are wrong. You refuse to recognize all of Jesus's teachings too. Did he ever call homosexuality a sin? The answer is no. So who is picking & choosing? That would be you.
phoenix1985 4 weeks ago
@phoenix1985 You pick and choose because you define a true christian terms of Jesus' teachings you like. When he teaches something you don't like, like homosexual sex being a mortal sin, oh, then you forget about those or call them non-existent.
dlazO109 4 weeks ago
@dlazO109 But since Jesus never said homosexual sex was a mortal sin you are wrong again. So who is picking & choosing? That would again, as I have said before, be you. Are you tired of being wrong yet? Because thats all you ever have been. I figured you would have gotten sick of it by now but apparantly you just love being wrong.
phoenix1985 4 weeks ago
@phoenix1985 I love propounding what God teaches is right, and that is that homosexual sex is a mortal sin. I am not so arrogant as to claim I can ascertain the truth myself. I need to follow God's instructions to find the truth in the Catholic Church!
dlazO109 4 weeks ago
@dlazO109 God is right. Which means you are wrong. Homosexual sex is not, never has been, & never will be a mortal sin. Quote me the bible, chapter & verse, where Jesus said homosexuality was a sin. You cant because he didnt. So stop lying. Since the catholic church is run by greedy power hungry bigoted men & God has never relayed any instructions through it you are following the words & works of men, not God. You dont know God. I've revealed God to you & you called him evil. Says a lot about U
phoenix1985 4 weeks ago
@phoenix1985 Jesus taught homosexuality is a sin, always will be. The God I worship is the one true God. Jesus rose from the dead and has been alive in body for the last 2000 years, Forget about the Bible only stuff. Don't be so ignorant of Catholic teaching which is God's teachings to look only to the Bible.So stupid to think that just because what someone said was not written down that they did not say it! I know the One True God and have been in the presence of Jesus. You have no real deity
dlazO109 4 weeks ago
@dlazO109 Quote me the bible chapter & verse where Jesus said homosexuality is a sin. You cant because he didnt. The "god" you worship is a bunch of demons. According to your religion Jesus rose from the dead & ascended to Heaven which means he hasnt been alive for about 2000 years. You have already proven you do not know the One True God & you have never been in the presence of Jesus. I have 3 real dieties: The God, Goddess, & Holy Spirit. So again you lie. Stop lying & serving evil.
phoenix1985 4 weeks ago
@phoenix1985 Well, I guess we will go on and on repeating to each other. So I will repeat it the Bible is not the sole authority to look for Christ's teachings. What he taught that was not written down but passed on orally is just as binding as what he said that was written. I am beginning to believe that your god goddess and holy spirit is actually Satan in disguise! As for Jesus continued existence, he said, (In the Bible) "Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever (continued)
dlazO109 4 weeks ago
@dlazO109 The gospels of Jesus are the sole authority to look at for Jesus's teachings. Your oral tradition is just men saying that he said whatever they wanted him to say. Since there is no satan, my God, Goddess, & Holy Spirit cant be him in disguise. Since my Holy Trinity are on the side of good, love, & tolerance, that inherently means they cant be evil. Since your god is on the side of fear, hate, bigotry, prejudice, & intolerance, if anyone's god is a demon, its yours.
phoenix1985 4 weeks ago
@phoenix1985 I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen. Matthew 28:20." Kind of hard to always be with us if He is dead, I have proven to know the One True God and I am now beginning to understand why some people view wiccans a devil worshipers!
dlazO109 4 weeks ago
@dlazO109 You have proven to know a false god of demons thats all. If you knew the One True God you wouldnt be an evil hate filled bigoted homophobe. The only people who think Wiccans are devil worshipers are evil people like you who hate things like love, compassion, equality, tolerance, goodness. You know, all the things God is really about.
phoenix1985 4 weeks ago
@phoenix1985 Anyone who actually believes that homosexual sex is not a sin and preaches false compassion, false equality, false tolerance and false goodness, as you do is an ally of the Evil One and an enemy of God.
dlazO109 4 weeks ago
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@dlazO109 Actually anyone who preaches homosexual sex isnt a sin, Since I dont preach false compassion, false equality, false tolerance and false goodness I cannot be an ally of the evil one because he doesnt exist. I'm not the enemy of God. God is compassion, equality, tolerance, & goodness. Everything you hate. If anyone is an enemy of God its you. I've proven that countless times already.
phoenix1985 4 weeks ago
@dlazO109 None of the gospels of Jesus, including those not in the bible, ever show Jesus saying homosexuality is a sin. That you say he said it is a lie. You lie. You sin. You have no respect for & do not serve the one true God. You hate the one true God as evidenced by your continued devotion to a false god of evil, bigotry, hate, & intolerance.
phoenix1985 4 weeks ago
@dlazO109 You are an absolute Idiot. You say that Jesus taught that homosexuality is a sin, THEN QUOTE THE BOOK AND VERSE IN THE GOSPEL where Jesus says that or SHUT THE FUCK UP and stop making a fool of yourself. BTW if you are a true Catholic then how about you start SCREAMING at the top of your lungs about the pedophile priests oh and about the FACT that the current Pope was a member of the HITLER YOUTH.
jmt8525 4 weeks ago
@jmt8525 Wile hy do you people use the Bible as the end all of Jesus teachings when it is not? The Bible contains the written teachings of Jesus while Sacred Tradition contains the teachings of Jesus passed on orally which were eventually codified in writing by the Catholic Church and set down in its Catechism.
dlazO109 4 weeks ago
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@dlazO109 Since the sacred tradition, the catechism, & the catholic church have nothing to do with anything Jesus said or did you are just proving to be, as jmt8525 said "an absolute idiot" To quote him again "QUOTE THE BOOK AND VERSE IN THE GOSPEL where Jesus says that or SHUT THE FUCK UP and stop making a fool of yourself." I couldnt have said it better myself. Your sacred tradition, church, & catechism are just things created by man that have nothing to do with Jesus. So stop lying already.
phoenix1985 4 weeks ago
@dlazO109 Why do people use the Bible as the end all of Jesus teachings? We dont. You are free to quote from any of the gospels of Jesus, even those not included in the bible that show he said homosexuality was a sin. But oh wait, he didnt. So you are lying again. When are you going to stop lying and making shit up? By your logic I can say Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. said he supports gay marriage. Why? Because he appeared to me & said he did. No proof of that but since you dont care about proof
phoenix1985 4 weeks ago
@dlazO109 As evidenced by the fact that you believe in your sacred tradition & catechism even though we know Jesus said none of those things. Men said he did. No proof. We know he didnt say anything about homosexuality being a sin. So again, stop lying, stop wasting your life, & move on from being an evil sinful piece of shit & try actually doing something good with your life.
phoenix1985 4 weeks ago
@phoenix1985 So if my grandfather told my father something and my father told me what my grandfather said and i wrote it down and gave it to my son in the form of a written statements which he would give to his son makes it reliable. But, if instead of writing it down, I told it orally to my son and he told it orally to his son, it is not reliable. Is that your position?
dlazO109 3 weeks ago
@dlazO109 And here I thought I was done with you. Oh well. Dare to dream. If someone doesnt say something when they are alive. But, after they die, you think they would have wanted something, & told other people that that someone had wanted that, it is a lie. Jesus, while alive, never said homosexuality was a sin. Never in any one of the gospels, including those not in the bible, did he ever say that. So you are saying he said something you have no evidence he ever said. You are lying.
phoenix1985 3 weeks ago
@phoenix1985 You completely evaded my question to you. Please answer! PS I was watching a documentary on JFK. A close friend told of conversations that he had with JFK after JFK died, reporting what JFK said to him. Since he related the conversation orally, does that make him a liar as to what JFK said to him?
dlazO109 3 weeks ago
@dlazO109 No, but it doesnt make it true either. Did his statements seem like something JFK would have said? Or was it him saying he supported something that he never said he supported anywhere else? So you do admit Jesus ascended into Heaven & isnt alive anymore. Again, its about the content. What you are saying is the equivelant of an anti-racist who fought racism having people say, after his death, that he was a racist.
phoenix1985 3 weeks ago
@phoenix1985 You have a thick head! Jesus resurrected with a glorified physical body, more alive physically then you are me.With that physically alive body, he ascended into Heaven where he is alive in the physical body from His Resurrection and for all eternity, never to die again! Got it? And Jesus teaching that homosexuality is a sin is entirely in keeping with that which Jesus said and was written in the approved Gospels.
dlazO109 3 weeks ago
@dlazO109 No. You just have a delusional mind. Jesus doesnt have a physical body. He is dead & gone. Saying that Jesus taught homosexuality was a sin, which he never said, is going completely against what he said in all of his gospels. Jesus spread a message of love, compassion, & tolerance. You say Jesus spread a message of evil, bigotry, & homophobia, which he never did. I'm not even Christian & I know the bible & Jesus better than you do. Enough with your bigoted delusions already.
phoenix1985 3 weeks ago
@phoenix1985 There is no way I will allow a dupe like you to spread such misinformation and lies! Jesus is alive and taught that homosexuality is a sin. In all my 54 years of life, I have never heard of such rubbish as wicca!
dlazO109 3 weeks ago
@dlazO109 Since the only dupe here is you & the only one spreading misinformation & lies here is you, well, take a hint already. Jesus is dead. He never said homosexuality was a sin. Thats a fact. So stop lying. Yes, any religion that actually doesnt hate innocent people must be rubbish in your eyes. Please. The only one talking rubbish here is you. I've proven that countless times already. You have a delusional mind & no grasp on reality or human decency whatsoever.
phoenix1985 3 weeks ago
@dlazO109 PS You have no right to allow or not allow me to do anything. Im not some catholic fool duped by bigoted men you can command. I'm a Wiccan. I get my ideas from the God & Goddess. Your sick twisted petty delusional ideas dont matter in the slightest.
phoenix1985 3 weeks ago
@phoenix1985 You have no right to allow or not allow me to do anything--- My understanding is that you are a resident of Illinois. Well guess what? Gays can't get married in Illinois, so like thinking people like me ARE stopping people like you from marrying, just like in 43 other states!
dlazO109 3 weeks ago
@dlazO109 For now. They just passed marriage equality in the Washington Senate. There are several groups in Illinois pushing for marriage equality as we speak. Face it. Time is on our side. People are only growing more & more tolerant as the years go by. With each new generation grows a greater understanding & tolerance for homosexuality. Your bigotry is dying out. Its only a question of time. I've been here for countless years. I'm prepared to wait. Are you prepared for your inevitable loss?
phoenix1985 3 weeks ago
@phoenix1985 So that answer explains why 62% of voters in Florida in 2008 banned both gay marriage and civil unions, and why in Maine, which on May 6, 2009 legislatively enacted gay marriage to only have it thrown out by voter referendum by 300,848 to 267,828 on November 3, 2009. Inevitable loss? LOL!
dlazO109 3 weeks ago
@dlazO109 What part of "for now" & "in time" do you not understand you delusional freak. I bet 50 years ago they thought there would never be a single state that allowed gay marriage. I bet 100 years ago they never thought there would be a state that allowed interracial marriage. Times change. People change. All things change in time. As I said before. Time is on our side. Also, in case you didnt know, they are pushing for marriage equality in NJ and there's going to be a revote in Maine.
phoenix1985 3 weeks ago
@phoenix1985 Before 1996, there was not a single state that had any law banning gay marriage. By 2009, there are 44. Good luck!
dlazO109 3 weeks ago
@dlazO109 Before 1967 most states had laws banning interracial marriage. By 1967 there were none. We dont need luck. We have time, fate, & God on our side.
phoenix1985 3 weeks ago
@dlazO109 And each law banning marriage equality will be overturned. Either by the courts or by the people. All things in time. As I said before. I'm prepared to wait. Are you prepared to lose as you inevitably will?
phoenix1985 3 weeks ago
@phoenix1985 There are those of us who will be sure to remind the 6 Catholics on the Supreme Court that they are God's (the God of the Roman Catholic church) servants before they are the state's servants and they must obey God before man!
dlazO109 3 weeks ago
@dlazO109 If that is true then they shouldnt be on the Supreme Court. Judge's are supposed to be unbiased & fair. If your catholic judges cannot be that then they should not be allowed to be judges. They take an oath on the bible to uphold the Constitution. Not the other way around your ignorant bigoted dumbass.
phoenix1985 3 weeks ago
@phoenix1985 Every true Catholic, anywhere in the world puts the laws of God and the Catholic Church, when the conflict with the civil law, above the civil law and, when in a position of authority in civil society, have a duty to act in accordance with Catholic teachings!
dlazO109 3 weeks ago
@dlazO109 So again, they should not be allowed to be judges or be on the Supreme Court. Thanks for making that point for me. Again, they put their hand on the bible & swear to uphold the Constitution. Not the other way around.
phoenix1985 3 weeks ago
@phoenix1985 Sure! Uphold it in so far as it does not conflict with the teachings of the Catholic Church!
dlazO109 3 weeks ago
@dlazO109 I dont recall hearing them say that in the oath they take. Again, if they cant be unbiased, then they shouldnt be judges let alone on the Supreme Court. Thanks for making that point for me, again.
phoenix1985 3 weeks ago
@phoenix1985 Well, those 3 judges on the Iowa Supreme Court that voted to say that gay marriage in Iowa is constitutional, as of November 2010 are now all ex judges because of that vote! Smart God fearing people who voted on that one!
dlazO109 3 weeks ago
@dlazO109 No, evil hate filled bigoted homophobic people voted on that one. The 3 judges made a logical, unbiased decision & you nutjobs turned it into a witch hunt. Again, you dont care who is doing evil, as long as evil gets done you are happy. You care nothing about God's will. You fly directly in the face of God's will & reject it. News Flash. Evil is not God's will. So stop doing evil, spreading evil, & being evil.
phoenix1985 3 weeks ago
@phoenix1985 If I was to support gay marriage, I would be doing a grave evil! Don't you support the right of people to self governing?
dlazO109 3 weeks ago
@dlazO109 If you were to support marriage equality you would be doing a great & wonderful good. You would be doing God's will. I support the fundamental rights of all men & women. Not just those I want to. You are free to worship whatever god you wish and believe as you like. But the second that belief is used against other people who have done no wrong & commited no sin than you have crossed the line. The second you try to take away anothers basic human rights, you cross the line.
phoenix1985 3 weeks ago
@phoenix1985 I cannot support sin! To support homosexual marriage would be supporting sin!
dlazO109 3 weeks ago
@dlazO109 You wouldnt be supporting sin. Homosexual marriage isnt a sin. Never has been. Never will be. To support marriage equality would be to support love & justice. Both of which are God's will. You have no problem supporting an organization that defends pedophiles (pedophelia, by the way, is an actual sin). Your views on morality are more than just slightly twisted.
phoenix1985 3 weeks ago
@phoenix1985 I support the entity, not the sinful acts of its leaders, and homosexual marriage has, is and will always be a sin! Gay marriage goes against God's will!
dlazO109 3 weeks ago
@dlazO109 Homosexual marriage isnt, never has been, & never will be a sin. Gay marriage does not go against God's will. It goes right along with God's will. The thing God wants us to do above all else in this world is love. Give love. Recieve love. Spread love. It doesnt matter if its man & woman, man & man, or woman & woman. Love is love. No matter the race, nationality, gender, religion, hair color, eye color, height, weight, none of that matters if you really love someone.
phoenix1985 3 weeks ago
@phoenix1985 Homosexual marriage has, is and will always be a sin! Gay marriage goes against God's will!
dlazO109 3 weeks ago
@dlazO109 I've already explained why it isnt a sin & doesnt go against God's will. You just saying it is & does proves nothing. You have no arguement. So stop trying.
phoenix1985 3 weeks ago
@phoenix1985 And you just declaring it is not a sin makes it so. Nope! God has revealed it! Homosexual marriage and sex are gravely sinful!
dlazO109 3 weeks ago
@dlazO109 I didnt just declare it wasnt a sin. I explained why it wasnt. You know, explaining, something never did. God never revealed homosexuality to be a sin. Saying he did doesnt make it so. So stop lying. Men did that. Bigoted men. Homosexual marriage & sex arent sinful in the slightest. Love is never sinful. Love is what God wants us to do.
phoenix1985 3 weeks ago
@phoenix1985 God revealed homosexual sex to be a sin as well as homosexual marriage I have proven that. So just give it up already. You are on the wrong side, the side of sin!
dlazO109 3 weeks ago
@phoenix1985 God declared homosexual sex and homosexual marriage to be a sin. I have proven that again and again. The sooner you realize that, the better off you will be.
dlazO109 3 weeks ago
@dlazO109 You've never proven God declared homosexual sex and homosexual marriage to be a sin even once let alone again & again. The sooner you realize that, the better off you will be.
phoenix1985 3 weeks ago
@phoenix1985 I certainly have proven it. Unfortunately for you, you never have proven a point so there was never any need to disprove something that was not proven in the first place. I get a directed verdict!
dlazO109 3 weeks ago
@dlazO109 Sure. You just keep telling yourself that you delusional freak. You just keep telling yourself that as I sit here laughing hysterically at your utter ineptitude. Not to mention your childishness at never being willing to admit you've been proven wrong time after time after time. So you can just keep lying to yourself, telling yourself that you've won, we both know its a lie. I can sleep soundly knowing that I have completely & utterly won over your sorry ass.
phoenix1985 3 weeks ago
@phoenix1985 Funny, I was thinking the exact same thing about you!
dlazO109 3 weeks ago
@dlazO109 No doubt. The difference is that i'm right & you are wrong. But since its always been that way I would figure you'd be used to it by now. Goodbye loser. Have fun in your land of make believe that you live in. I'll be existing outside of any delusions. You should try it sometime. Would probably do you some good.
phoenix1985 3 weeks ago
@phoenix1985 Just what I was thinking about you!
dlazO109 3 weeks ago
@dlazO109 Are you actually serious with this whole argument? You need to stop your radical bigotry in God's name, for that is a grave sin. As a practicing Catholic I would never bash a gay person especially in such an anonymous and rude way! What is wrong with you? God made us all, ergo He loves us all. Don't get so caught up in the politics of religion and just remember the basics of our faith!
mardawg12 3 weeks ago
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@dlazO109 Are you actually serious with this whole argument? You need to stop your radical bigotry in God's name, for that is a grave sin. As a practicing Catholic I would never bash a gay person especially in such an anonymous and rude way! What is wrong with you? God made us all, ergo He loves us all. Don't get so caught up in the politics of religion and just remember the basics of our faith!
mardawg12 3 weeks ago
@dlazO109 You do know what everything you say sounds like right? The delusional ravings of a lunatic acting like a child who can only say "nu-uh" & "I know you are but what am I." Its laughable. You are incompetent to the extreme. You have proven that time & time again. IF you are a lawyer, & that is a huge if, then you must have a 0% success rate if a 26 year old who's only legal training has been from watching Law & Order can win against you. So long loser. Have fun in your delusional mind.
phoenix1985 3 weeks ago
@dlazO109 You do know what everything you say sounds like right? The delusional ravings of a lunatic acting like a child who can only say "nu-uh" & "I know you are but what am I." Its laughable. You are incompetent to the extreme. You have proven that time & time again. IF you are a lawyer, & that is a huge if, then you must have a 0% success rate if a 26 year old who's only legal training has been from watching Law & Order can win against you. So long loser. Have fun in your delusional mind.
phoenix1985 3 weeks ago
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@dlazO109 You do know what everything you say sounds like right? The delusional ravings of a lunatic acting like a child who can only say "nu-uh" & "I know you are but what am I." Its laughable. You are incompetent to the extreme. You have proven that time & time again. IF you are a lawyer, & that is a huge if, then you must have a 0% success rate if a 26 year old who's only legal training has been from watching Law & Order can win against you. So long loser. Have fun in your delusional mind.
phoenix1985 3 weeks ago
@dlazO109 I have, however, proven why homosexual marriage & sex arent sins. So you can just retire now. You've been utterly defeated in every which way. And, seriously, is a fucking lame ass gay joke the best you've got? I guess it must be. Although its hard to tell your best from your worst, they lie so very very close together.
phoenix1985 3 weeks ago
@phoenix1985 I have been the one to prove that homosexual sex and marriage is a sin. You have never even made a point! You lost right from the start! And besides, you were the one to admit that you have an FA!
dlazO109 3 weeks ago
@dlazO109 You have never proven that homosexual sex & marriage are sins. I've made many points. You are just too stubborn & stupid to admit that. I won from the very beginning. Why? Because I had God & truth on my side. So you just keep on lying to yourself telling yourself that you've won. Everyone else knows you havent. So if you want to keep lying to yourself thats your business. Face it. I made countless successful points. You've yet to make one.
phoenix1985 3 weeks ago
@phoenix1985 I have proved God has stated homosexual sex and marriage is a sin. That is the truth. The majority of people in 44 states feel the same. BTW are you aware that the new Hungarian constitution that went into effect 1/1/12, defines marriage as between a man and woman and in its preamble states "We acknowledge the nation-preserving role of the Christian faith," Imagine that! A brand new constitution that states such things!
dlazO109 3 weeks ago
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@dlazO109 says - I have proved God has stated homosexual sex and marriage is a sin. That is the truth. The majority of people in 44 states feel the same.
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1)You can't prove anything about a mythical character...... 2)Aren't YOU the guy that was extolloing argumentum ad populum , just he other day?
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You also wrote -"We acknowledge the nation-preserving role of the Christian faith," Imagine that! A brand new constitution that states such things!
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Yeah, it's called a theocracy.
geezusispan 3 weeks ago
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@dlazO109 says - I have proved God has stated homosexual sex and marriage is a sin. That is the truth. The majority of people in 44 states feel the same.
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1)You can't prove anything about a mythical character...... 2)Aren't YOU the guy that was extolloing argumentum ad populum , just he other day?
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You also wrote -"We acknowledge the nation-preserving role of the Christian faith," Imagine that! A brand new constitution that states such things!
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Yeah, it's called a theocracy.
geezusispan 3 weeks ago
@dlazO109 wrote - the new Hungarian constitution that went into effect 1/1/12, defines marriage as between a man and woman and in its preamble states "We acknowledge the nation-preserving role of the Christian faith," Imagine that! A brand new constitution that states such things!
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1st amendment - Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; etc.
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That's how we roll in the US! Why don't you move to Hungary?
geezusispan 3 weeks ago
@geezusispah Nah! I'll stay here to work and change things. If a completely communist nation can go from what they had under communism to what is in Hungary now, who knows what can happen here?
dlazO109 3 weeks ago
@dlazO109 So you want to repeal the 1st amendment? hahahahah
Good luck with that! Once again you show that, you are delusional.
geezusispan 3 weeks ago
@dlazO109 So a nation likes Hungary takes a step backwards & you want America to follow. Yes you want to change things, for the worse. You want to destroy everything America stands for: liberty & justice for all, equal protection under the law, & seperation of church & state. If you want to go live in some backwards christian nation than leave. But leave us good & decent Americans our beloved country that we actually care about.
phoenix1985 3 weeks ago