Protesting N.Y. Terror Trials

[TextCannon]

This is to you god damn liberal new yorkers especially but not exclusively liberal new york jews. new york city is now the man focus of RADICAL ISLAMIC BOMBERS WHOM YOU SUPPORTED AND FOSTERED IN YOUR OWN COUNTRY. YOU fought DECENT white people over words like BIGOTRY AND RACISM so this SCUM sworn to KILL JEWS AND HOMOS AND ENSLAVE ALL WOMEN to exist, prosper and multiply in YOUR country while your own culture is trampled. HOW DOES IT FEEL TO BE THE TERRORIST CAPITAL OF THE WORLD? MORONS!

[BinkieMcFartnuggets]

If the trials are superfluous, what does that make the protests?

[VictoryCough]

All these "conservatives" talk about how wrong it is to ignore the constitution, until ignoring it suits them. If the venue is offensive, then push for them to request a change of venue. If you think it should be a military trial, think again. We are not at war, we have illegal military occupations. He is not a enemy combatant, he is a terrorist like McVeigh. Read the constitution, then tell me I'm wrong.

[todd76705]

VictoryCough, what rock have you been living under the last eight years? Not at war???? when these wastes of human debris rammed our own planes into the WTC and Pentagon, that was an act of war! these conspirators are enemy combatants. they should be tried in military tribunals, not in civilian court and given the same costitutional rights as the rest of us have. they have no rights under our constitution and i don't have to read it to know you're wrong.

[VictoryCough]

That's not an act of war, thats an act of terrorism. They didn;t act behalf of any government! We call everything we do a war-we have a war on poverty! and a war on drugs! Should we try every drug dealer in a military tribunal? Congress never declared a war, as the constitution dictates. Rules of war apply only to those in a lawfully declared war, not something the government labels as such! The gov has no war powers until they declare a war! Read the constitution!!!

[todd76705]

VictoryCough, the terrorists declared war on this country when they flew our own commercial airplanes into the twin towers. the terrorists declared war on this country when they flew a commercial airplane into the pentagon. we didn't have to formally declare war, al qaeda did that for us. and you're still wrong.

[VictoryCough]

Did Timothy McVeigh "declare war" on the US on behalf of white supremacists? Al-Qaeda made a constitutional decision for the US Congress and declared war for us huh? We declared war on Germany, Japan and Italy after individuals representing the gov of Japan attacked us. You're logic lacks sense, if you want to go to war you don't go to war under pressure from the UN or the president, Congress must declare war against a specific nation. This is a republic and we must follow the rule of law!

[todd76705]

we aren't talking about timothy mcveigh, victorycough, he's rotting in the ground. try to stay focused. we are talking about the pieces of human sludge that attacked this country on september 11, 2001 and declared war against the united states by flying airplanes into the twin towers and the pentagon. all obama has done is given these conspirators a platform in which to spew their anti-american venom, made new york a bigger target than it already is and endangered our national security.

[VictoryCough]

Terrorist are stateless individuals. The Framers were very clear on this issue and thats why Marque and Reprisal was included in the constitution, to target specific terrorist. McVeigh was a terrorist and is a perfect analogy- a stateless terrorist. After 9-11 Bush didn't ask congress for a declaration of war! War powers only apply during a lawfully declared war and one of those powers is use of military tribunals against foreigners! We are unsafe because we are over there!

[todd76705]

VictoryCough, Bush didn't have to ask congress for a declaration of war, war came to us and we responded. Would you personally allow someone to attack you and not fight back? I doubt it. The only thing you've said in this little exchange that I agree with is "terrorists are stateless individuals", that's why Bush called it "The Global War on Terror". You talk about a lawfully declared war. Was if lawful when these terrorists attacked us on September 11, 2001?

[VictoryCough]

So we throw the constitution out the window? The President absolutely has to ask for a declaration of war! We should have issued letters of Marque and Reprisal against specific terrorist. How can you have a war on a tactic? Of course it wasn't lawful, this doesn't mean Iraq or Afghanistan declared war on us.

[todd76705]

VictoryCough, I didn't say we throw the constitution out the window. I'll ask you again, if you personally were attacked, would you fight back or wait and ask some authority figure if it was okay for you to fight back? You're right, Afghanistan and Iraq didn't declare war on the United States, but the terrorists organizations in those two countries did when they flew airplanes into the pentagon and world trade center. Bush had to act quickly and decisively.

[VictoryCough]

I wouldn't practice vigilantism. KSM is not an enemy combatant by our own definition. Use of these tribunals are for enemy combatants who violate the rules of war. All detainees should be tried in a federal court, since there was no declaration of war-as the constitution demands. Again, letter of Marque and Reprisal were never issued against specific terrorist or even an organization! Instead, we let OBL go into pakistan and started a nation building mission-something bush campaigned against!

[todd76705]

KSM not an enemy combatant??? Good lord, man, where do you come up with this stuff? Of course KSM is an enemy combatant and military tribunals are exactly where these pieces of sludge need to be tried, not in a federal court where they may have access to classified documents and where they are free to spew their anti-american bile. Enemy combatants are people the U.S. regards as unlawful combatants that don't qualify for POW status. KSM and his bunch definitely fit that catagory.

[KILLFOROIL]

Lets kill those who kill to show that killing is wrong? YOu can bomb a country into pieces but you cannot bomb a country into peace. War Tax?

[jx14aby]

Another commercial. Adios.

[TheWilliamcale]

i think if we dont give them a trial if we

sacrifice the rights and priciples that are supposed to make us better than them

we arent there is no diference between thiere society and ours and there is no reason to fight them because they have already won

[todd76705]

TheWilliamcale:

your comment makes no sense. no reason to fight them? you mean the terrorists: Al Qaeda and The Taliban? here is a news flash for ya, they attacked us. that's reason enough to wipe these two terrorist organizations off the face of the earth. they are enemy combatants. they have no rights under our constitution.

a few other things you might want to consider: 1) learn to spell. 2) learn to use punctuation. 3) learn to use complete sentences.

[guillermo316]

why dont they just kill them? i though killing thousand with a terrorist attack doesnt deserve justice?