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Actually thrawst, if you have just the cross and you want to get to the fish pattern, you turn the U face so that NO corners face you on either side and then you do the algorithm R U R' U R U2 R' and that should get you directly to the fish
It is VERY important to MIRROR the algorithms, and do them front and back, so you don't have to spend extra time turning the U face :/ or doing a cube rotation ://
hey thrawst when you get the cross turn it to a side so there is NO headlights facing u (in your case so that NO blue corners are on the front face) and do the fish pattern and no matter what it will give u the fish and it will be able to be solved in one more R U R' U R U2 R'
ok thats it. if you don't understand anything then don't leave mean comments. all you are doing is raising hell and making yourself look retarded. my point is, if you don't understand, watch another video and leave him the hell alone!
In the un-revised part 3 when you said had the red facing you and kept saying you must have a corner in the left there facing you didn't mention that i had to be the colour of the top one. Now i understand as this vid explains that better
when you have the cross on top the easiest way to get to fish is do the fish alg R U R' U R U2 R' with no yellow cubie facing you instead of putting one in the bottom left hand corner like he said just find a side with no yellow and do fish alg and you will get fish. this is all assuming you use yellow as your top.
hey thrawst...when you have the cross, instead of making the colors of the last layer face you, choose the color to the right of the pair..."y" then execute the same algorithm then it takes to straight to the fish pattern.
ok see there a problem i get the fish pattern were it look like a fish but the other sides that are not upi don`t know which way there suppose 2 be when i do the thing it always come out wrong but still good tutorial though
you totally don't need the papers.. just get the center piece on the top, the L if you have it at the top left, OR the bar accross the middle left to right and use F R U Ri Ui Fi. works every time. do it till you get the cross. make sure you keep your reference face in the right place though.
uh i think the algorithm to the fish pattern is R U R' U R U2 R'. then just repeat as many times as needed with that corner facing you to get to the fish. its in one of his other videos, i think its Part 4. not part 4 revised
where would you be able to find these papers? because its hard to copy all og them down so could you let me know where to find them? on the internet if possible. thanks
i think if you flip those edges a little slower we could get it...i can intuitively get the first two layers but cant get the full yellow or bottom side.....please help
Hey, thanks a bunch for your time on these videos. They've helped me from the beginning. 2 things, how long have you been 'cubing' and is that a specially made cube for tollerance?
Just want to say tankx ! i can solve da cube in like 2 min., but i still want to get as fast as u ,but i know tat will take a lot of practice cause u r really good!Tankx a lots.
P.S. U have really hot hands (sre i just had to say it)
For me i was moments away from strangling myself then i saw ur video and got it for the first time 2 hours.tanks u saved my lif liturally {LOL}how old r u ?what is the {tat u no of} youngest age a person can solve da cube???????
continued from before... (filling up the, uh, fill.) And the site in the description changed what it showed from the sheets that you showed the camera... Please could you make a vid on how to achieve the arrow keys and/or fill them in.
ok im really comfused. Even more comfused than at first.
For the most part, When you solved the blue face and jumped to part 3, all of a sudden you had the first layer solved and it was in an arrow key shape like the set of arrow keys on your keyboard. If you dont have that, then you wouldnt be able to solve it. PLEASE give the algorythms for EVERY piece in the first and second layers.
I seem to get patterns like this, and logically (or so it seems to me from ur vids) there is NO WAY of getting out of it! U may also need to know that i have one of those cubes with cut edges, (so it has a top face, bottom face, and 8 edge faces, 3 verticle blocks each) because there are now 10 colours, the way it works, blocks don't necessarilly go in the same place each time. Would this be the problem? Please help if u can.
Hi! I've just watched your videos, and i can allredy do the rubix cube from them!!! it seems amazing! lol!! BUT, what happens if after getting the 1st two layers, u end up with an odd number of edge pieces.
If u dont have either the L or the Cross on top, you want to look for a straight line going down either horizonally or vertically. For that, you do F R U R' U' F'. If there is only a single color in the middle, you do the algorithm for the bar, then you do the algorithm for the L, which is (F U R U' R' F')
Do you have a spacial cube or is it that your fingers are very much trained?! i mean - how do you do it so fast? for ex: how do you hold the cube in one hand and in the same hand's finger you turn the upper layer?! you make it look so easy and so smooth.
this video is not for beginners. It help me out a lot cause I already know what he's talking about. you need to learn notation that he teaches in part3 "not revised".
ok im stuck on one part and cant find an answer, i only need acouple more colors to get the second layer, in the video in which you posted this comment he didnt explain how to get the left middle side, he only said how to get the right middle side, is it the same?
ughh @.@ i cant get the last layer done 100% of the time even with the fish pattern, i dont know wich sticker is supposed 2 face me so i have 2 do the move a gillion times b4 getting last layer done, i can already solve a cube, its just that i need faster methods and jessica freidrichs is 2 complicated for me @.@
He got them off of jessica fridrichs cubing page, but memorizing all those orientations isnt really necessary, the algorithims are pretty long and youd have a better chance of getting the top layer before premutation with the way thrawst does it, if you wanted your skills a little sharper, you should memorize the rest of the permutation algorithims. dig?
for the cross with one of the colors of the top layer on the right corner.. you can do.. R U' L' U R' U L U L'U L ... the inverse of that is the cross with two corners opposite of each other..
hey thrawst i'm running into a situation. and have run into it everytime i've tried to resolve since my first solve.i have no U colored pieces that can be rolled to the left hand side of F its on the R of F so what to do.
uhm THRAWST. when you showed us the papers. are those the oll that you do? or is the the oll and pll together cuz that's pretty long... there are like shorter versions on another site. and can you make a vid on solving the f2l at the same time? cuz i want to shorten my time.
if you have the cross, you can do the algorithm with no top colors facing you and it will bring you to the fish,insted of the botom corner, bringing you to another shape
i found that when the center peice is the only peice on there if u find the three edges in a row and turn the cube to the right and do fru r'u'f' then do the l algorithm it skips the entire fish pattern and solves the whole top layer but thats only when there is just the center peice on the top
what is the point of the fish pattern? i solve mine in under 2 minutes (really fast for me seeing as its really sticky) without ever getting the fish pattern.
yes from silicone, but I use petroleum jelly (oil based) - a product called vaseline, but you can probably find something equivalent in your supermarket. I've had no problems using that oil based product and it should work for you too.
So do you solve layer by layer? Is that the fastest way to do it, because I thought there was also a way u do it by solving a 2x2x2 then make it a 2x2x3 and go on? You're too damn fast man, I wish i was that fast. How many algorithms have u memorized?
I thought Lars Petrus solved it using his method in 17 seconds or something.
Well anyway, I enjoy watching your videos, they're cool. I have a question for the algorithms that you showed on the screen, what does xi, yi, and zi stand for? Could you give a thorough explanation of that for me please? :].
Oh and it was hilarious how it seemed like you threw the algorithms away LOL.
Oh and I've just read about the x, y, and z thing:
# x = Turn the whole cube in direction of R
# y = Turn the whole cube in direction of U
# z = Turn the whole cube in direction of F
So does xi mean you turn it the opposite direction of R? And yi means the opposite direction of U? And zi the opposite direction of F? Thanks in advance! And keep posting videos :].
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LakersBeast22 6 months ago
what is algorithm
lalovelylenea 7 months ago
da be da sqkash povqrvax D:D:D:D
aizberg4eToaz 8 months ago
I find the 2 look oll much better, only need to remember 7 algorithms i think
UberCuba 3 years ago
two
Asolmanx 2 years ago
no, there are 7 ish. 2 to get the cross on top, and 5 to get the last layer oriented. maybe ur thinking of like a 3-4 look pll
UberCuba 2 years ago
Actually thrawst, if you have just the cross and you want to get to the fish pattern, you turn the U face so that NO corners face you on either side and then you do the algorithm R U R' U R U2 R' and that should get you directly to the fish
SamMoff 3 years ago
WHATS THE ALGORITHIM FOR THE BAR!
JAXONJAYJAXON 3 years ago
It's the same for the L
Just do this algorithm with the bar horizontal on the top layer
F R U R' U' F'
then you should have the cross
Hope this helped!
Buggy793 3 years ago
For the L is
F U R U' R' F'
or at least that's how i do ti
monkeyzNdogz 2 years ago
Really? I use f R U R' U' f' when the two oriented edges are on the UF and UR.
It's a lot easier in my opinion. :)
Buggy793 2 years ago
Yes, thats important, a lot faster.
It is VERY important to MIRROR the algorithms, and do them front and back, so you don't have to spend extra time turning the U face :/ or doing a cube rotation ://
magichristo 2 years ago
hey thrawst when you get the cross turn it to a side so there is NO headlights facing u (in your case so that NO blue corners are on the front face) and do the fish pattern and no matter what it will give u the fish and it will be able to be solved in one more R U R' U R U2 R'
Pelnied 3 years ago
ok thats it. if you don't understand anything then don't leave mean comments. all you are doing is raising hell and making yourself look retarded. my point is, if you don't understand, watch another video and leave him the hell alone!
roydammercer1 3 years ago
im still not gettin it...he goesto fast here and doesnt explain the algorithim that he doe in the beginning and what faces where.
stewiegriffin1104 3 years ago
That helped me a lot thanks
In the un-revised part 3 when you said had the red facing you and kept saying you must have a corner in the left there facing you didn't mention that i had to be the colour of the top one. Now i understand as this vid explains that better
dorien360 3 years ago
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pogobaat 3 years ago
wtf?
G00gLEMachiNE 2 years ago
link isn't working
exleader75 3 years ago
never mind
exleader75 3 years ago
eum dude can ya help me im kinda stuck on part 2 dude :p
mekloten 3 years ago
O-O"
F U R UI RI FI?!
THE HECK?!`
ilovemiricles 3 years ago
check out his part 2 video
Supernova336 3 years ago
that's not even finished yet... how do you finish it???
nuvyc 3 years ago
next video
3DaysTillGrace 3 years ago
yeah thanks, I thought this was the last one. =]
nuvyc 3 years ago
huh
xohaileyluvsu 3 years ago
when you have the cross on top the easiest way to get to fish is do the fish alg R U R' U R U2 R' with no yellow cubie facing you instead of putting one in the bottom left hand corner like he said just find a side with no yellow and do fish alg and you will get fish. this is all assuming you use yellow as your top.
jesusthehomie 3 years ago
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ryklys 3 years ago
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wizmagician 3 years ago
Gah! I forgot the directions for the notations.. I watch the videos, but then I forget.
I need to do this; F R U' R' U' R U R' F'
warpstar0 4 years ago
a new cube huh
delta12312 4 years ago
umm can you please put up the algarithum for when your goin to do the like or the small l
shortti13 4 years ago 3
slow the fuck down please. =)
DramaFree2011 4 years ago
f u r ui ri fi
saveworthy 4 years ago
hey thrawst...when you have the cross, instead of making the colors of the last layer face you, choose the color to the right of the pair..."y" then execute the same algorithm then it takes to straight to the fish pattern.
tofusauce 4 years ago
what algorithm did he use at 2:03? b/c my cube was like that one time and didnt know what to do
wvb93 4 years ago
hey, can u scan those algorithms for the last layer and put the links up, plz?
KillerXXX123aw 4 years ago
ok see there a problem i get the fish pattern were it look like a fish but the other sides that are not upi don`t know which way there suppose 2 be when i do the thing it always come out wrong but still good tutorial though
blitzboi13 4 years ago
haha i liked how you just threw the papers
tofusauce 4 years ago
you totally don't need the papers.. just get the center piece on the top, the L if you have it at the top left, OR the bar accross the middle left to right and use F R U Ri Ui Fi. works every time. do it till you get the cross. make sure you keep your reference face in the right place though.
zabcod 4 years ago
yeah but the point of those "paper" is to shorten your time, that's what speedcubers want.
tofusauce 4 years ago
How do u change just 2 adjacent corners?
greatestgit 4 years ago
impossible thats called parity. it only exists in a 4x4 or 5x5
tofusauce 4 years ago
LOL you always say eges instead of corners, i noticed it on your other 3x3 videos
CubeMasterZ 4 years ago
uh i think the algorithm to the fish pattern is R U R' U R U2 R'. then just repeat as many times as needed with that corner facing you to get to the fish. its in one of his other videos, i think its Part 4. not part 4 revised
areyouamoronlol 4 years ago
How come I'm still not getting the cross. so frustrated...i've been trying to get the cross for more than an hour. what am i doing wrong?
hersheylove818 4 years ago
too fast
crazyboys88 4 years ago
uhhgs i stil cant get the part where u do fishy patern thing and after that
speedstakerguy 4 years ago
Its good u guys are teaching us and all but can u plz slow down? i cant keep up im totally lost and new. my homie can do it quick.
FreshPrinceJunkie 4 years ago
man im a gangsta
16311190 4 years ago
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pianosoul 4 years ago
you got a new comp thwarst? i like thte back round of it
ffmcracdcftw 4 years ago
so do ı ıts kwl
pianosoul 4 years ago
Did you get new cubes
kamedog57 4 years ago
how do you get the L shape and the bar???????
videosomething 4 years ago
In the 80's I had a book which was a much simpler way to solve the cube. This all seems way over complicated.
leony2007x 4 years ago
where would you be able to find these papers? because its hard to copy all og them down so could you let me know where to find them? on the internet if possible. thanks
Zenabi47 4 years ago
look idont have only center piece, or center and corners!! i have got a 4cube square how to solve?
magichristo 4 years ago
Then u have the backwards "L"....
BuggerDan 4 years ago
i think if you flip those edges a little slower we could get it...i can intuitively get the first two layers but cant get the full yellow or bottom side.....please help
WICKEDCASEY73 4 years ago
What is the algorithm for the cross and the L?
You said you would be happy to answer any questions...so please answers.
NicholasDoumbia 4 years ago
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maatt2413 4 years ago
I still don't get it
sneakysnor 4 years ago
ditto
stikkilla222 4 years ago
Where do u purchase one of these Rubik's cube i want to try them.
vietnamieseg 4 years ago
any toy store i bought mine at walmart
SpittyMcSpitSpit 4 years ago
i think he got his from wal-mart, looks like mine anyways and is great so thats what i'm guessing. Btw thanks so much for vids.
biggy887766 4 years ago
Hey, thanks a bunch for your time on these videos. They've helped me from the beginning. 2 things, how long have you been 'cubing' and is that a specially made cube for tollerance?
darknessavenges 4 years ago
Just want to say tankx ! i can solve da cube in like 2 min., but i still want to get as fast as u ,but i know tat will take a lot of practice cause u r really good!Tankx a lots.
P.S. U have really hot hands (sre i just had to say it)
MindWiz3232 4 years ago
Dude, great vids cant wait to try speedcubing, hmmm how long do u think would someone that just got started to at least finish the cube??
JohnScofield005 4 years ago
it took me 4 hours to finish the cube the 1st time, then like 30 mins the 2nd time. Then less and less after that.
Thrawst 4 years ago
For me i was moments away from strangling myself then i saw ur video and got it for the first time 2 hours.tanks u saved my lif liturally {LOL}how old r u ?what is the {tat u no of} youngest age a person can solve da cube???????
MindWiz3232 4 years ago
There's a little girl on YouTube 3 years old solves it in 114 secounds (I think...)
clowningaround247 4 years ago
Holy crap !!no affense but she probally is asian cause they are like robots when it comes to rubik's cubes.
MindWiz3232 4 years ago
whats the algorythm for the bar and L?
kid9bomber 4 years ago
continued from before... (filling up the, uh, fill.) And the site in the description changed what it showed from the sheets that you showed the camera... Please could you make a vid on how to achieve the arrow keys and/or fill them in.
helimeef 4 years ago
ok im really comfused. Even more comfused than at first.
For the most part, When you solved the blue face and jumped to part 3, all of a sudden you had the first layer solved and it was in an arrow key shape like the set of arrow keys on your keyboard. If you dont have that, then you wouldnt be able to solve it. PLEASE give the algorythms for EVERY piece in the first and second layers.
helimeef 4 years ago
oh hehe sorry didnt see this vid
helimeef 4 years ago
I seem to get patterns like this, and logically (or so it seems to me from ur vids) there is NO WAY of getting out of it! U may also need to know that i have one of those cubes with cut edges, (so it has a top face, bottom face, and 8 edge faces, 3 verticle blocks each) because there are now 10 colours, the way it works, blocks don't necessarilly go in the same place each time. Would this be the problem? Please help if u can.
JayDee
OsnowbladerO 4 years ago
Hi! I've just watched your videos, and i can allredy do the rubix cube from them!!! it seems amazing! lol!! BUT, what happens if after getting the 1st two layers, u end up with an odd number of edge pieces.
OsnowbladerO 4 years ago
If u dont have either the L or the Cross on top, you want to look for a straight line going down either horizonally or vertically. For that, you do F R U R' U' F'. If there is only a single color in the middle, you do the algorithm for the bar, then you do the algorithm for the L, which is (F U R U' R' F')
Poogination123 4 years ago
thrawst, you never gave us the algorithm to use if we didnt have either a cross or an L on top.
Can you please post it?
xcrunner517 4 years ago
um which video starts explaining the fridrich method to solve 2 layers at once
hadoali 4 years ago
Do you have a spacial cube or is it that your fingers are very much trained?! i mean - how do you do it so fast? for ex: how do you hold the cube in one hand and in the same hand's finger you turn the upper layer?! you make it look so easy and so smooth.
i'm a fan (:
shiranset 4 years ago
the cube is old so it's been worn down over about a year, and yea my fingers have gotten better at turning the sides
Thrawst 4 years ago
1) where do you get the algorithms guide?
2) what's this method name?
3) you're great
karroarmato6 4 years ago
1: see description
2: Jessica Fridrich
3: tyvm
Thrawst 4 years ago
disregard my last comment, umm on the chart the terms l, x, and y means
LiLRaverBoii 4 years ago
were did you get the partern chart? because i keep getting the one that looks like a Z
LiLRaverBoii 4 years ago
Can you please go a little slower next time? Thx!
Morten699 4 years ago
no offence, i think your work is amazing, but dude...you need to go slower. cant keep up with you
sameerpatel105 4 years ago
this video is not for beginners. It help me out a lot cause I already know what he's talking about. you need to learn notation that he teaches in part3 "not revised".
antigayman 4 years ago
ok im stuck on one part and cant find an answer, i only need acouple more colors to get the second layer, in the video in which you posted this comment he didnt explain how to get the left middle side, he only said how to get the right middle side, is it the same?
nickk29 4 years ago
where do u get ur cubes and stickers?
jimithoy 4 years ago
cubesmith . com
if i got a dime everytime some1 asked me that i'd be very rich
Thrawst 4 years ago
hey i hav the second layer done....but i hav a yellow tee on top...what do i do?
bananahands86 4 years ago
you mean a T pattern on top?
that's the bar...
instagibno 4 years ago
ughh @.@ i cant get the last layer done 100% of the time even with the fish pattern, i dont know wich sticker is supposed 2 face me so i have 2 do the move a gillion times b4 getting last layer done, i can already solve a cube, its just that i need faster methods and jessica freidrichs is 2 complicated for me @.@
but still, this video helps, thanks Thrawst
NagaBoy2453 4 years ago
i wish i had a cube that spun that fast:(
Jabels07 4 years ago
what website did u get those papers from
38LcT2 4 years ago
thanks for all the help but show ur face for once
38LcT2 4 years ago
He got them off of jessica fridrichs cubing page, but memorizing all those orientations isnt really necessary, the algorithims are pretty long and youd have a better chance of getting the top layer before premutation with the way thrawst does it, if you wanted your skills a little sharper, you should memorize the rest of the permutation algorithims. dig?
crackaspook121 4 years ago
very well put thank you
Thrawst 4 years ago
OMG. you are amazing.
chalenegirl 4 years ago
thrawst your amazing, where did you get those papers?
nataliekolb 4 years ago
for the cross with one of the colors of the top layer on the right corner.. you can do.. R U' L' U R' U L U L'U L ... the inverse of that is the cross with two corners opposite of each other..
ki6eki 5 years ago
i like how you threw the papers around in the beginning as if to suggest 'look at this shit, confusing ain't it'
keep up the work and cheers
mtazc 5 years ago
hmm..what kind of stickers are they..? cubesmith.?
zypheryss 5 years ago
how did you get your cube to move so smooth ?
camdaddy09 5 years ago
He lubricated it... watch his video: "how to get faster part 2 lubrication"
mronni 5 years ago
hey thrawst i'm running into a situation. and have run into it everytime i've tried to resolve since my first solve.i have no U colored pieces that can be rolled to the left hand side of F its on the R of F so what to do.
mybuickskill6979 5 years ago
Did I miss something or how come I don't know the algorithm for the cross?
linkman61 5 years ago
uhm THRAWST. when you showed us the papers. are those the oll that you do? or is the the oll and pll together cuz that's pretty long... there are like shorter versions on another site. and can you make a vid on solving the f2l at the same time? cuz i want to shorten my time.
jettyboy1 5 years ago
I don't know all the OLL how can i use it?
most of those algs on the sheets are reflections and Mirrors, PLL cases are represented differently
Thrawst 5 years ago
i... see... :/
jettyboy1 5 years ago
On the little papers.
are you supposed to do the turns like, the picture being the front side?
Reid1115 5 years ago
thanks for the extra algorithms. now i can solve the third face much easier. which makes me solve the whole thing much quicker. thanks.
wborofball85 5 years ago
if you have the cross, you can do the algorithm with no top colors facing you and it will bring you to the fish,insted of the botom corner, bringing you to another shape
KiwiTibb 5 years ago
ya i just kinda found that out today while i was cubing. i never had it the other way b4.
haydensutter 5 years ago
i found that when the center peice is the only peice on there if u find the three edges in a row and turn the cube to the right and do fru r'u'f' then do the l algorithm it skips the entire fish pattern and solves the whole top layer but thats only when there is just the center peice on the top
haydensutter 5 years ago
in one case yes, theres 2 different cases where there is only a center, the only difference is how the pieces around it are oriented
Thrawst 5 years ago
lmao ... i love it when u throw the papers XD
Greeneyeskater93 5 years ago
Learn Fridrich F2L. You can solve the first and second layers at the same time, thus not needing to learn how to solve the first layer more quickly.
259 5 years ago
can you show us how to solve the first layer using less moves.
fan2012 5 years ago
what is the point of the fish pattern? i solve mine in under 2 minutes (really fast for me seeing as its really sticky) without ever getting the fish pattern.
robertissosexy 5 years ago
btw your cubes are amazingly smooth and loose, is that just from silicone?
ThePizzaGuy92 5 years ago
yes from silicone, but I use petroleum jelly (oil based) - a product called vaseline, but you can probably find something equivalent in your supermarket. I've had no problems using that oil based product and it should work for you too.
HeadDominion 5 years ago
i just use the cube lube that i got when i bought my DIY cubes
ThePizzaGuy92 5 years ago
damn you memorize all those algorithms i only remember like 7. i have a hard time orienting the last layer.
yungflip108 5 years ago
can u please tell me where u got those papers at wit all of da algerithems
pokchop4president 5 years ago
where did you print those pages from with the orientations [sp?]?
ThePizzaGuy92 5 years ago
dude after watching the videos i can solve a cube with in under 3 mins. thank yous
JoshBarrina 5 years ago
So do you solve layer by layer? Is that the fastest way to do it, because I thought there was also a way u do it by solving a 2x2x2 then make it a 2x2x3 and go on? You're too damn fast man, I wish i was that fast. How many algorithms have u memorized?
babolatpdtp 5 years ago
no not rly, thats the Petrus, nobody (even the creator of the Method) can even use that method to solve sub-20, its way too intuitive
Thrawst 5 years ago
I thought Lars Petrus solved it using his method in 17 seconds or something.
Well anyway, I enjoy watching your videos, they're cool. I have a question for the algorithms that you showed on the screen, what does xi, yi, and zi stand for? Could you give a thorough explanation of that for me please? :].
Oh and it was hilarious how it seemed like you threw the algorithms away LOL.
Xbxg32000 5 years ago
Oh and I've just read about the x, y, and z thing:
# x = Turn the whole cube in direction of R
# y = Turn the whole cube in direction of U
# z = Turn the whole cube in direction of F
So does xi mean you turn it the opposite direction of R? And yi means the opposite direction of U? And zi the opposite direction of F? Thanks in advance! And keep posting videos :].
Xbxg32000 5 years ago
correct, only it will be notated as x' or y'
Thrawst 5 years ago