Ethnic makeup of Abkhazia georgians where a majority in 1897 in Abkhazia and Sochi

[cccpninakias]

friend if you could explain from where these apsuas came ?! north caucasus ? do they have any connections to the Adigei people or circasian and why in abhazia the abhazians speak a diffirent languege ? is this languege an apsuan languege cause as i know abhazians are mainly georgians and these so called abhazians are apsuas ?! please explain

[TheMistAnchorite]

@cccpninakias well very good point of view, yes apsuas are related with circassians (adyge is a nother name for circassians), actualy apsuas are a circassian tribe, that came from North Caucasus into georgian province of Abkhazia. Their language is very close ! only the differance is that apsuas also have georgian blood, so we cannot speak of pure blood apsuan people, but a new tipe of people, one that has mixt blood

[TheMistAnchorite]

@cccpninakias The fact that in Apsua language there are no original words for ,,SEA" and ,,ship" , in an area where are at least 4 ancient ports Diouscurias, Pityus, Gyenos, Anakopia, that are at least 2000 years old, seems at least a bit odd. Apsuas initially lived FURTHER NORTH than todays Abkhazia anand slowly moved down with time, there are no archeological findings with abkhaz language !

[TheMistAnchorite]

@cccpninakias this is a false sovietic claim that: "georgian became a majority in Abkhazia due to Stalins and Bereias regime" In Relity: From the population census chart conducted by the Russians up to 1959 (Stalin and Bereias death), we can see that not only Georgians where always a majority before their rule, but the resulat of decrease in apsua population is a result of an increase in Russian and Armenian population, and NOT georgian.

[TheMistAnchorite]

@cccpninakias catholic bishop Peter Geraldi writes ,,In Sebastopolis Sukhumi live georgians, muslims and jews." Apuan tribe came in Georgia late from North Caucasus, there are even toponims from North Caucasus, that show that i am right

[cccpninakias]

@TheMistAnchorite thnx man now i understand :) good work by the way

[paulmattt]

The fact is, that Abkhazia is now occupied by the Russians!

[N789A]

Avoid these ''new made channel'' users ,you don't have to wonder who they ''might be'',everything is clear with them.

[TheMistAnchorite]

@N789A yes agree, and it seems they are dangerous, but not that dangerous as i ve expected, i know truth is in you Georgia, and your people, have the faith and chalange all your enemyes, because they are week. But i want you to see other videos that explain pice by piece, as for me till death i shall not give up on saying the truth about you, because you are light of Caucasus, come people and take the light, from Orthodox Sakartvelos

[TheMistAnchorite]

@N789A because it is the hate of your enemyes that made me love your country, and it is that wich shall make me more powerful in loving who you are, because there are no more borders when it comes in Gods love, no etnicity when it comes to sins, it is their hate that will ecourage me on learning your language, because yes you are unique, and the light comes from Svetiskhoveli. Because you Georgia are the Holy Tunic of Christ who was divided amongs enemyes

[TheMistAnchorite]

@N789A and at the end, your faith wins, you Georgia are the Tunic of Christ, your faith, is the greatest power, the georgian saints from Abkhazia are with you, listen to my words and tell me, if Apsuas want a church wich is founded on war, on hate, than can someone tell me at least 1 APSUA SAINT ? there are non ! how can a church function with no ,,national" saints ? how can apsua church function when its history is all georgian with georgian saints ? shame on those who divide

[TheMistAnchorite]

@N789A Apsuas, you stand before Christ, and your faith didnt spark a saint for your might ! Cose you are cursed, the devil divide , and if you are christians, than you had this in mind ! now stand Apsuas with honor and unite, in one single country where pace shall apply ! Apsua, now is the time, to show that you want pace, not dispare ! United you stand , divided you fall ! Cose Georgia is your homeland, and you are her sons !

[N789A]

In 1886 Georgians made up 50,60%, Abkhazians 41,18%.

In 1926 Georgians made up 33,57%, Abkhazians 27,82%.

In 1959 Georgians made up 39,09%, Abkhazians 15,12%.

In 1970 Georgians made up 40,99%, Abkhazians 15,87%. In 1979 Georgians made up 43,89%, Abkhazians 17,10%.

In 1989 Georgians made up 45,69%, Abkhazians 17,76%

[N789A]

According to the 1989 Soviet census, ethnic Abkhaz were 17.8 per cent of the total population of 525,000 people, while Georgians were 45.7 per cent, Armenians 14.6 per cent, and Russians 14.3 per cent. Georgians always were in majority in Abkhazia, which is confirmed by historic monuments and archeological evidence, as well as linguistic data.

[TheMistAnchorite]

there is IMERETI highland in sochi tistrict IMERETI highland and "krasnaya polyana" it means red field. And how can you say that it is not georgian again ? Sochi district ?

[TheMistAnchorite]

well for such people like drai 861 which have more yt chanels, i have a message Abkhazia and Sochi are Georgia !

[TheMistAnchorite]

my friend drai 861 has no clue that my census is also russian and from the same year 1886, and my census says that georgians are 50. 60 % , while his say that there where almost no georgians in Abkhazia 0.6 % well who tells the truth ? of corse me, because i am romanian, i am not apsua, not georgian, and more than that his census was CREATED later by comunists, and this is how They fool APSUAS to believe stories even today in Abkhazia

[TheMistAnchorite]

My dear friends just take a look of how idiotic is this user drai861, he acuses me that i dont let him comment, but how can i let idiotic people with false comments to comment ? you can see in the description of this video at the SECOND link informations about the CENSUS FROM 1886, where georgians represent the Majority, not 0.6 % as he claims ! look at the page 8 of that second link ! georgians are 50.60 %

[TheMistAnchorite]

@drai859 now that is an acurate census of that bishop, not what comunists statistics say 

[TheMistAnchorite]

@drai859 catholic bishop Peter Geraldi writes ,,In Sebastopolis Sukhumi live georgians, muslims and jews."

[TheMistAnchorite]

@drai859 plus my friend, you miss the entire point, some apsuas converted to islam during ottoman empire, and Ottoman empire used them against georgians who lived in the port cities !

[TheMistAnchorite]

@drai859 no my friend, you dont get the logic in that, i can also give you hundreds of census s but yours arent acurate, and are more than that false, based on false census created as documents in comunist perioud, do you think i am that stupid ?

[drai861]

As I said.. You can cheat ONLY ignorant people..

GOOGLE: НАСЕЛЕНИЕ АБХАЗИИ - ТЕРРИТОРИЯ СОВРЕМЕННОЙ АБХАЗИИ (1886 г.)

1886

Abkhazians: 58,963 (85.2%)

Georgians: 4166 (6.0%)

[gukaification]

@drai861 let me educate you a little.

statistical data complied in 1886, the one you're talking about says about akbkhazian population: samurzaq'anos (სამურზაყანო) 44.6% (30,640), abkhaz 41.2% (28,323), mingrelians 5.2% (3,558),

greeks 3.1% (2,149), armenians 1.6% (1,090), russians 1.6% (1,090), estonians 0,9% (637),

georgians 0.9% (608). Total - 68,773. in which "samurzaq'anos" are ethnic georgians (mingrelians) and the name "samurzaq'ano" comes from the nobleman Murzaqan (მურზაყან)

[gukaification]

@drai861 in which "samurzaq'anos" are ethnic georgians (mingrelians) and the name "samurzaq'ano" comes from the nobleman Murzaqan (მურზაყან) Sharvashidze, a man who ruled Samurzaq'ano, a region of Georgia.

if you want to know more about სამურზაყანო, I can teach you more.

[TheMistAnchorite]

@drai859 sorry my dear friend, i had viewed your information and it is false, i shall send you something about that on your chanel, plus i will not speak with a person that has so many chanels, you dont refaire in your comments about what was the ethnic makeup before the year 1879 , so please ... next comment

[TheMistAnchorite]

@drai859 and my dear friend, again you miss the point , you claim that there was a democratic change betwin 1897-1989 , but the census was made in the year 1897, so what are you talking about ? there are so many years from 1897 to 1989 , but the census was made in the year 1897 , and what Demografic change you speak of ? you should talk about democrafic change if you where smart to post a comment, BEFORE the year 1897, not AFTER ! stupid comments get deleted again

[TheMistAnchorite]

@drai859 dont worry only stupid comments get deleted , especially the one with georgian ultranationalism, because i am not georgian ! so what georgian ultrantionalism are you talking about ?

[TheMistAnchorite]

@drai859 my dear friend, this video talks about Soci as well, but i guess for you georgians never even exieted there, the fact that i say the truth is that you miss the point about Soci district, plus my source is based on russian ones, the ones whom you claim to be your friends ! and plus my friend, my grand grand father was romanian from that region and he fled the region because of apsuas, as well as some estonians

[TheMistAnchorite]

such a funny person id this TheMajkosk, he didn t even saw the TITLE of the video, the year of the CENSUS, but he is an historian !

[TheMistAnchorite]

@TheMajkosk that map is based on Russian sources, and they are not fake, and by George Partskhaladze !

[TheMistAnchorite]

@TheMajkosk the ethnic map of the South Caucasus by Andrew Andersen and George Partskhaladze WAS based on the variety of Russian statistics of the late nineteenth and early 20th, so you have to thank Russia for that not Andrew Anderson, there are russian maps that show exactly the same thing

[TheMistAnchorite]

@TheMajkosk dude you are very funny look at the title of the video the year 1897, what Stalin or Bereia ? Stalin meet Lenin in the year 1902, but the video talks about the census from 1897, and in 1899 Stalin was expelled from the orthodox seminary ! SO WHAT BEREIA AND STALIN ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT ? what democratic engeneering in the year 1897 ? I choose the year wisely ... georgians where always a majority , sorry to dissapoint you and i have to block comunists like you from ,,London" haha

[TheMistAnchorite]

@TheMajkosk and the map is not Fake, plus Stalin was half georgian, and if you where a smart person than you whould know that EVIL has no ethnicity , no colour, no race, Evil doesnt look at what or who you are ... some say that Stalin was half georgian, half ossetian, and some say that he had also jewish blood so your comment is not that wise especially where you specified: Stalin (Jughasvili) fathers family name, remember that some claim that his father was ossetian

[TheMistAnchorite]

@TheMajkosk you are a very interesting person, dont worry i shall make a video about Andreas Anderson as well, but this map has nothing to do with that, i can give you even russian maps, that show always Abkhazia part of Georgia, and it was as a kinghdom, apsuas have nothing to do with that land, they are just uninvited guests

[TheMistAnchorite]

@TheMajkosk The fact that in Apsua language there are no original words for ,,SEA" and ,,ship" , in an area where are at least 4 ancient ports Diouscurias, Pityus, Gyenos, Anakopia, that are at least 2000 years old, seems at least a bit odd. Apsuas initially lived FURTHER NORTH than todays Abkhazia anand slowly moved down with time, there are no archeological findings with abkhaz language !

[TheMistAnchorite]

@TheMajkosk my dear friend get a life, ok, where are your academical sources, a census doesnt need academical sources, and a lot of georgians where exiled with apsuas in Turkey as well ! this map has nothing to do with what you say

[TheMistAnchorite]

@TheMajkosk you always claim that: "georgian became a majority in Abkhazia due to Stalins and Bereias regime" In Relity: From the population census chart conducted by the Russians up to 1959 (Stalin and Bereias death), we can see that not only Georgians where always a majority before their rule, but the resulat of decrease in apsua population is a result of an increase in Russian and Armenian population, and NOT georgian.

[TheMistAnchorite]

@TheMajkosk so do you want academic sources ? i have academic sources about Bereia and Stalin my dear friend, i even made videos about that with sources that arent georgian, but they are from other countries, so please ddont acuse without knowing .

[TheMistAnchorite]

@TheMajkosk my dear friend, this is a census, what academic sources do you need for that ?

[TheMajkosk]

You can cheat only ignorant people with that videos.

[RezoVSKremlins]

@TheMajkosk Truth is painful.

[TheMajkosk]

@RezoVSKremlins but I am laughing.

[TheMistAnchorite]

@RezoVSKremlins yes the truth for him is what russian create as fanatasy stories, he is so funny he wants academical sources in a CENSUS ? haha... a Cesnus is a Census, even armenian historians claim that the aboriginal people in Abkhazia are georgians

[TheMistAnchorite]

@TheMajkosk My dear friend, a census is a census, it is very well known that georgians where the majority in Soci city, even the name of the city is georgian. I can give you a lot of armenian historians that claim that Abkhazia has nothing to do with apsuas, apsuas dont have the words SEA or BOAT or that have conection with navigation, but there are 4 ancient port cities in Abkhazia , and this means that you are from far North , and you came later in that land !

[RezoVSKremlins]

This information is very important for us !. thankx you again.

[cccpninakias]

100% right friend ! russia now calling us a falled state but they dont say who made georgia a falled state how they were messing and brainwashing everyone !