Love legit videos! What do I mean? By the lack of any response to all the YouTube Top Guns. He/she doesn't care what you or your buddy did or does. They just posted a video for their own, their friends or family's enjoyment and could care less if you or anyone watches it.
Just love it. No need to impress on a bunch of strangers (who don't care anyway) with their life story or plans. Heck I've done a lot in my life, but I won't tell a bunch of strangers squat! Props to the uploader! Nice vid!
@2008pennstater Hahahahaha.....FACT!!! But it was smooth....It shake a little bit because of it size. A 100ft/min on a 777, looks like landing in a cloud!
This was filmed from the Captains seat because the NAV source on the HUD indicates ILS1 That wouldn't show up on the First Officers side. The FO is hand flying the airplane while the Captain is filming. It's a hand flown approach, not autopilot flown because the FPV, basically the two circles at the HUD center, are all over the place. With the AP flying the little circle would be centered inside the larger circle throughout the whole approach plus there would be an AP indication on the HUD.
Does the NG have a rudder auto pilot servo? This looks really close to the E-190 HUD and it's hand flown Cat III/ HGS because of the lack of the rudder AP servo. Just wondering.
@0boeing0aircraft0 Yeah, that's great. But that doesn't even have anything to do with the video shown. It's a night visual landing.. so a HUD was not really needed... Maybe for something strictly minimums, or a strict IFR night landing, it may help, but a pilot CAN land just as well without it in VFR conditions, regardless.
Flying in VMC using IMC geared technology every time isn't the safest idea. The accidents don't usually occur because of lack of technology. They occur when a pilot relies too much on technology and it fails on them at the wrong time. Hand flying without the use of convenient avionics should be practiced regularly in my opinion.
@isuav8r234 Oh ya cause its so much safer to never practice with it and then when in IMC and its RVR 1200 out and you don't know how to use the damn thing. Sure ok.
@izanti I didn't say never to use it. Only said to practice without it on a regular basis, so in case you are in your "IMC and its RVR 1200" and your precious technology fails, you can still fly the approach safely and accurately. You're obviously a very inexperienced pilot or you wouldn't have disagreed with me. I hope I'm nowhere near you when you have a failure/emergency.
I think stupid people shouldnt be able to comment, If you have to ask what the noise is then you should watch a flight sim landing, let the grown-ups comment in here..
What is the sound in the background? Some kind of sound like a shutter at the 0:02 and 0:09 mark. I've heard this in other videos. Something to do with autopilot?
I use every single tool given to me in the plane. The safety of the passengers,the aircraft, and people on the ground under the aircraft is the top priority and if I can cheat to achieve my goal I will. I have seen some skill comments on here. Yes I can still fly that baby id there is a failure in all these gadgets. I can still fly the hold with a stop watch and a compass, Thats what being a pilot is about. And I DO practice these manual skills often as all the other airline pilots out there.
@ruckelz74 the computers already handle all of the minute corrections, pilots pretty much point where they want to go and the computers do the rest. I wouldnt be surprised if they start letting the computers do the pointing as well. If a computer can land a fighter on an aircraft carrier in high seas and 0 visibility, they can probably handle a commercial flight
I'm curious as to how this was filmed, like what type of camera was used. I assume the pilot who was not at the controls was shooting the video. I've looked through the HUD of a 737 and the volume where you can see the symbology isn't huge, so you couldn't use a very large camera and still read the HUD at the same time. Was the radio comms coming through a loudspeaker?
Awesome ... hope this catches on to many other variants I mean the pilot just needs to keep that bird on the runway centre-line and at that precise rate of decent and the plane will just land itself ... much safer well done!
@WESTJET101 Not true. Dual HUDs are standard equipment on the 787. Left side only HUDs are standard on the BBJ version of the 737. They're an option on 737s (primary users include Southwest, Alaska, Delta, etc.). Not a factory option for 757, 767, or 777, although FedEx is putting HUDs on their 757s, 777s, and upcoming 767s as a post-production mod.
@GCC14173 "What's the scraping noise every 15 seconds?"
JM: The stabilizer trim wheels on the center pedastal are chain driven by the auto-pilot. Noisy. The AP makes constant trim changes during approach. Pilot can drive trim wheels manually with a fold-out hand crank or electrically with a hat switch on the control column. Yes, the trim wheels WILL spin electrically with the fold out hand crank extended and knock the pilots knees. I think the hand crank handle is spring loaded closed.
ANYTHING that adds safety, no matter how it's achieved , is a win. I just roll my eyes when I hear "well, pilots have been flying planes for decades without HUD and they did just fine" Really? That's your argument against it? Someday, a terrible accident will be avoided, and the pilot will say "I was using the HUD and was able to keep my eyes up the entire approach, and that is when I saw the deer standing on the runway, and was able to avoid it" Without HUD, I may have not seen them."
Exactly. Being a pilot is not about being macho, but about flying. It is tiring to hear all those flight simulator pilots or aviation enthusiasts get all gung-ho about which aircraft 'tests' a 'real pilot' as compared to another.
@0boeing0aircraft0 There is a video on here where an Italian fighter pilot almost flies directly into an airliner at cruise altitude because the airliner is hidden in the horizon line of the HUD. The viewer knows it's there and you can see the vapor trail as it works it's way toward the fighter but behind the horizon line in the display. Then when it's too late to react, he turns just AFTER the airliner flies by. Airliner never saw him at all.
@0boeing0aircraft0 Hitting a deer isn't all that awful with a plane. I did it with a Jetstream (wasn't pretty, but all was ok) full of passengers. Now, an elk or a moose? Different story. Wouldn't want to hit that with neither the 737 nor the 777 :-)
I'd rather "cheat" on every landing by reading off a HUD than risk killing myself and 300 other people just because I want to prove I'm a skilled pilot.
@evilant well, shouldnt landing be something even a regular or bad pilot can do without any problems? i mean, thats what a pilot is supposed to do, otherwise he wouldnt be a pilot, or would he? i mean, its his job. id rather be kinda worried, if a pilot could only land with the help of a HUD. however, nice video.
@evilant And i'm pretty positive these pilots aren't trying to prove their "skills" or impress anyone except with being safe..the top priority is landing a jet full of hundreds of people SAFELY, not to earn brownie points for how skilled one is using minimal amount of equipment, that is the dumbest thing i've ever heard. I'd like to see any one of these morons argue that with a reputable pilot..
@evilant First off, a 737 only seats a little over 100 passengers. Second off, if a pilot can't fly a straight in, visual approach in VMC, then maybe he shouldn't be flying. I'm not saying don't use the HUD. I'm just saying that a "normal" landing without a HUD is easy as pie.
@SamuelJamieArnold A HUD Has a Total Velocity Vector also known as Flight Path Marker, its the green donut thingy on HUD. It is much easier to land with that as the FPM indicates where your aircraft is gonna be at, so the pilots just need to make sure the "donut" pointed at the Runway and focus on their Angle of Attack etc.
@SamuelJamieArnold yes i tried one. yes i fly aircrafts, i am a young pilot too. I also have my IFR so i know what it is...Its easier to keep your head out to check for the runway and the instruments at the same time, not waving your head up and down every second.
HUD allows lower minimums for non-autoland airplanes. Some airlines find that better than a dual autopilot. If you have an autoland capable aircraft the HUD is not necessary, just neat to have, unless one autopilot is non operational, obviously.
@nuno1007 They're not just a "neat to have". They vastly improve overall situational awareness, and provide for much more precise manually-controlled flight. Also, although autolands are indeed great landing devices, you can't take off with them in low-vis conditions. With a HUD, you can. For airlines, it's a big bummer to land but not be able to depart again. Makes for a nice parking lot.
@redstar1110 Ever tried to look behind you to change lanes while driving, and keep your eyes on the crazy nut going 30 in a 65 in front of you at the same time? Same idea. Look up, look down, up, down, up down, again and again. No thanks.
@gfruy It's obviously VFR conditions, but in the lower left center of the display "ILS1" is identified as the navigation source. That source is driving the calculated guidance commands, which are displayed via the relative position of the two concentric circles in the center of the display. Pilots will often use the HUD even in VFR, as it provides for much more precise approaches, and is good practice for later low-vis use. Some airlines require it for all approaches.
@gfruy Landing in LAX, it would definitely be an instrument approach. However where it's not strictly VFR (as these are rules), it is VMC which relates to the weather conditions. Hope this helps :)
I heard from a collegue that a few airlines in europe , Lufthansa being one of them ,wont let their airplanes be equipped with any avionics that allow auto flare to reduce skill attrition in its crews.
@Tohellandback1usa1 This doesn't do any "auto" flare. It does provide info related to the flare, but it's still a manually flown operation. That's sorta the whole point of the HUD; unlike with an autoland, everything is manually flown, just with a better, more precise presentation of the relevant information.
@Tohellandback1usa1 That would be very impractical, as that would hinder the possibility of CAT III approaches, since LH does not use a hud, at least in its 737s.
It is however true, that many airline, Europe and worldwide, encourage manual flying whenever practical.
At about 40 feet, around the time the guidance cue goes away, little crosses can be seen flashing above each end of the "wings" on the flight path circle. Those are an indicator that the flare maneuver has to be performed. In the correct approach display mode, the HGS actually provides guidance to the pilot for performing a proper flare maneuver, at the right time.
Someone asked about the round indicator at the top right of the HUD. It's an angle of attack indicator.
Or, as someone correctly posted, "All you have to do is put the thing on the thing on the thing." In this display mode, the combined localizer/glideslope deviation is basically represented by the displacement of that small circle from the bigger circle (the inertial flight path). If the circles are concentric, then the plane is being flown correctly on the desired path. So the pilot flies the big circle to chase down the little one. At a low altitude, the small guidance circle goes away.
The post "Its not designed for Autolands and Cat 3 approaches, thats what EVS is for!" is a bit confused. This HUD is specifically designed for manually-flown Cat 3 approaches, without the use of an autoland. EVS (showing infrared video, or similar) is not for Cat 3 approaches, at least not yet. Regarding the guidance for Cat 3, the key is to keep the two circles in the middle of the display concentric. The big one shows where the plane is going, the little one says which way to go.
The symbology in this video seems pretty busy, and that's because the HGS is in "Primary" mode, which isn't typically used for landing. There are other display modes for landing, with greatly reduced symbology, to avoid clutter and obscuration. This Primary mode is normally used for the cruise phase of flight, and has a lot of additional information. Somebody mentioned the civilian vs. military symbology. That's because the HUD symbols need to be "consistent" with what's shown on the PFDs.
Regarding terminology, "HUD" is a generic term for a head-up display. "HGS" is the RC trademark for "Head-up Guidance System", which is applied to many of the RC HUDs. This is because many of these HUDs also incorporate sophisticated guidance algorithms to determine how the pilot should manually control the aircraft to a landing, usually for low-visibility conditions. Many of these also provide low-viz takeoff guidance, which autolands can not do.
As for the 737 family, Alaska, Delta, Southwest, Korean, American and others fly with the RC HUDs. The Boeing Business Jet version of the 737 has HUDs standard; HUDs are optional or retrofit on all other 737s. Model 2300 on the Classics, and Models 2350 and 4000 on the NGs. The newest of these are actually late 90s CRT-based systems, but they still work well. The above all have a single left-side head; there are 737s with dual HUDs flown by the Turkish AF.
Will try to provide some clarification/answers to many of the comments here.
Lots of commercial planes have HUDs, with the market dominated by a division of Rockwell Collins in Portland, Oregon. First product was for Alaska Airlines 727s. Then Canadair RJs, and Dash 8s, and 737 Classics. And then 737 NGs. And Embraer 145s. And various high-end business jets (Bombardier, Canadair, Dassault, Gulfstream). And the Lockheed C-130J. C-130 AMP. C-27J. And 787. Embraer 170/190. And more.
Sorry but I have no clue, I was just wondering, is that green smaller reticule he's following tell him where his nose should be pointing? Does he have to follow it manually or is it automatic?
At least Boeings don't call the pilot a "retard" during landing.
kanjitard 1 day ago
That radar altimeter is pretty nifty
wolframixx 4 days ago
how did the pilots know the location of the runway.... is it the help of the glide slope??? pls someone reply to my comment.. :)
790philip 5 days ago
@790philip - Look up Instrument Landing System (ILS) on the internet and that will explain it for you.
USNJetJockey 5 days ago
@790philip ILS
okkcomputer 3 days ago
@790philip maybe they have landed here a thousand times LOL
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Love legit videos! What do I mean? By the lack of any response to all the YouTube Top Guns. He/she doesn't care what you or your buddy did or does. They just posted a video for their own, their friends or family's enjoyment and could care less if you or anyone watches it.
Just love it. No need to impress on a bunch of strangers (who don't care anyway) with their life story or plans. Heck I've done a lot in my life, but I won't tell a bunch of strangers squat! Props to the uploader! Nice vid!
Toyman07 5 days ago
splendido!!!
5758Wanderer 5 days ago
How it is possible to dislike this video? Very nice at all!
Jelen226 5 days ago
fine landing.......!
vinod222444 1 week ago
Smooth!!! 100 ft/min!!!!
cmtefonseca 1 week ago
@cmtefonseca Yet it never feels smooth in the -800...
2008pennstater 5 days ago
@2008pennstater Hahahahaha.....FACT!!! But it was smooth....It shake a little bit because of it size. A 100ft/min on a 777, looks like landing in a cloud!
cmtefonseca 5 days ago
Nice landing, captain!
BeerAndWarcraft 1 week ago
I wish that the feet indicator was just at good in FSX...
323tiim 1 week ago 10
@323tiim shouldn't that be vice versa? lol
dookiekong007 1 week ago
and a short landing i like it
daywalker6260 1 week ago
Nice job P.I.C. Bringing back memories, Felt like I was at the controls
flypilot70 1 week ago
pretty much textbook app and landing looked good. Night landings r just so cool! esp on a precision runway
flypilot70 1 week ago
Just amazing... nothing else to be said
fmatos22 2 weeks ago
This was filmed from the Captains seat because the NAV source on the HUD indicates ILS1 That wouldn't show up on the First Officers side. The FO is hand flying the airplane while the Captain is filming. It's a hand flown approach, not autopilot flown because the FPV, basically the two circles at the HUD center, are all over the place. With the AP flying the little circle would be centered inside the larger circle throughout the whole approach plus there would be an AP indication on the HUD.
CaptainPatSmith 2 weeks ago 2
@CaptainPatSmith - Finally, someone on YouTube that knows what the hell he is talking about!
USNJetJockey 5 days ago
@CaptainPatSmith
Does the NG have a rudder auto pilot servo? This looks really close to the E-190 HUD and it's hand flown Cat III/ HGS because of the lack of the rudder AP servo. Just wondering.
jthor3277 15 hours ago
I love that "500" callout!!! :)
Arkipelago2 2 weeks ago 21
niceeeeeeeeeeeeeee
topgun767 2 weeks ago
Where was the altimeter in the HUD?
sab0nes 2 weeks ago
@sab0nes Right Side
rev4life03 2 weeks ago
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scorpiomoon27 2 weeks ago
@sab0nes It's the tape on the right, and the radio altimeter is right in the middle.
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@0boeing0aircraft0 Yeah, that's great. But that doesn't even have anything to do with the video shown. It's a night visual landing.. so a HUD was not really needed... Maybe for something strictly minimums, or a strict IFR night landing, it may help, but a pilot CAN land just as well without it in VFR conditions, regardless.
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TheMeslava 2 weeks ago
This is pretty impressive
SpacelyXD 2 weeks ago
I wish i go back and become a pilot like my mom told me instead of being a banker :..(
TheROCKTOO 2 weeks ago
@TheROCKTOO its never too late
isuav8r234 2 weeks ago
VERY COOL!!!!
jeff122670 2 weeks ago
Flying in VMC using IMC geared technology every time isn't the safest idea. The accidents don't usually occur because of lack of technology. They occur when a pilot relies too much on technology and it fails on them at the wrong time. Hand flying without the use of convenient avionics should be practiced regularly in my opinion.
isuav8r234 2 weeks ago
@isuav8r234 Oh ya cause its so much safer to never practice with it and then when in IMC and its RVR 1200 out and you don't know how to use the damn thing. Sure ok.
izanti 2 weeks ago
@izanti I didn't say never to use it. Only said to practice without it on a regular basis, so in case you are in your "IMC and its RVR 1200" and your precious technology fails, you can still fly the approach safely and accurately. You're obviously a very inexperienced pilot or you wouldn't have disagreed with me. I hope I'm nowhere near you when you have a failure/emergency.
isuav8r234 2 weeks ago
amazing!
javytmc 3 weeks ago
I think stupid people shouldnt be able to comment, If you have to ask what the noise is then you should watch a flight sim landing, let the grown-ups comment in here..
cat320exv 3 weeks ago
What the sound like "sh-chik sh-chik". ? Someone repair boeing during flight? ;-0
maxvideostorage 3 weeks ago
@maxvideostorage The "sh- chik" is the boeing 737 auto trim working
geoff271989 3 weeks ago
that is so sick!
bferrari911 3 weeks ago
HUD is great....I wish that the A320s that I fly had it.....a certain Canadian flag carrier is too cheap to equip our aircraft with it....
pcressma 4 weeks ago
@pcressma Hmm, what Canadian airline has A320's? I wonder!!!! LOL
RedIsTheColourOfThe 3 weeks ago
パイロットは凄い。
takeo4jp 4 weeks ago
What is the sound in the background? Some kind of sound like a shutter at the 0:02 and 0:09 mark. I've heard this in other videos. Something to do with autopilot?
Frosttty 1 month ago
@Frosttty the trim wheel for the elevator
15Qabbey 1 month ago
@Frosttty It's the trim wheel.
Gunner7121 3 weeks ago
@Gunner7121 Does it auto trim? Just curious
Scoggs117 3 weeks ago
Wow. So accurate!
abdhoms 1 month ago
I use every single tool given to me in the plane. The safety of the passengers,the aircraft, and people on the ground under the aircraft is the top priority and if I can cheat to achieve my goal I will. I have seen some skill comments on here. Yes I can still fly that baby id there is a failure in all these gadgets. I can still fly the hold with a stop watch and a compass, Thats what being a pilot is about. And I DO practice these manual skills often as all the other airline pilots out there.
erikburns1 1 month ago
HUD FTW!
frdrcklim 1 month ago
There's a reason why every fighter pilot uses HUD... It's an awesome thing to have!
mastersgta1 1 month ago
let the computers fly it, they do a pretty good job
KingSlimjeezy 1 month ago
@KingSlimjeezy Pretty good isn't good enough when you're dealing with the lives of 150 people
ruckelz74 1 month ago
@ruckelz74 the computers already handle all of the minute corrections, pilots pretty much point where they want to go and the computers do the rest. I wouldnt be surprised if they start letting the computers do the pointing as well. If a computer can land a fighter on an aircraft carrier in high seas and 0 visibility, they can probably handle a commercial flight
KingSlimjeezy 1 month ago
@KingSlimjeezy I'm just saying it would be foolhardy to eliminate pilot input on such a crucial part of the flight.
ruckelz74 1 month ago
@ruckelz74 im just saying who knows what the future holds
KingSlimjeezy 1 month ago
@OverlyExcitedNewJack Are you a hillbilly?
Nerfsquaduk 1 month ago
@Nerfsquaduk no. yes.
OverlyExcitedNewJack 1 month ago
I love the ILS right on the HUD. Much more useful than having to look down at the bottom of the PFD. Nice video.
Ormaaj 1 month ago
I'm curious as to how this was filmed, like what type of camera was used. I assume the pilot who was not at the controls was shooting the video. I've looked through the HUD of a 737 and the volume where you can see the symbology isn't huge, so you couldn't use a very large camera and still read the HUD at the same time. Was the radio comms coming through a loudspeaker?
HawkeyeNFO117 1 month ago
in fighter planes it makes more sense because you have to fight and watch your enemies. so its better to have all instruments in your view.
but its also very nice for such airplanes, you dont need it really, but it makes flying easier and more comfortable.
a lot of passngers trust you, so safety is more important than having traditional fun. its not like riding an oldtimer alone or sth like that
but cant agree with "safety, NO MATTER HOW ITS ARCHIEVED"
mob1235 1 month ago
Nice!
sebasgokart 1 month ago
Does the NG have synthetic aperture radar?
SlamDuncDrummer 1 month ago
Most fighter aircraft around the world use HUD's. Does this make the fighter pilots any less proficient as pilots? I think not.
carsrulewtcfela94 1 month ago
I find the HUD so badass
nistle2 1 month ago
I am not a pilot even though I wish I was. The HUD technology is cool but I found it quite distracting.
MrMirakal 1 month ago
@RedMusicSinging Come on, can't you troll better than that?
aluisious 1 month ago
Awesome ... hope this catches on to many other variants I mean the pilot just needs to keep that bird on the runway centre-line and at that precise rate of decent and the plane will just land itself ... much safer well done!
markpace123 1 month ago
@RedMusicSinging
If this was FSX, I'd be playing no other game anymore..
jeanorwin 1 month ago
i wish the DHC beaver had that, o wait we dont use run ways
Jasshands1 1 month ago
@WESTJET101 I hadn't heard that, I thought it was still a customer option or a post production modification
airplanenut09 1 month ago
Anybody know what airlines this is shot on? I know Alaska has HUDs on the captains' side, but I don't know what other carrier also have it.
airplanenut09 1 month ago
@airplanenut09 All New Boeing planes have HUD's on them.
WESTJET101 1 month ago
@WESTJET101 Not true. Dual HUDs are standard equipment on the 787. Left side only HUDs are standard on the BBJ version of the 737. They're an option on 737s (primary users include Southwest, Alaska, Delta, etc.). Not a factory option for 757, 767, or 777, although FedEx is putting HUDs on their 757s, 777s, and upcoming 767s as a post-production mod.
pnwavfan 1 month ago
@pnwavfan I must have been mis informed then, My bad. I read that it was standard, or was gonna be standard on all their new aircraft.
And Boeing stopped making the 757 years ago, So anyone who flys it, would have to get the planes retrofitted with them.
WESTJET101 1 month ago
@airplanenut09 Oops, forgot that they're not an option yet for the 747.
pnwavfan 1 month ago
What's the scraping noise every 15 seconds?
GCC14173 1 month ago
@GCC14173 The Trim I believe.
WESTJET101 1 month ago
@GCC14173 It's the trim wheel
RacerXGTO 1 month ago
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@GCC14173 "What's the scraping noise every 15 seconds?"
JM: The stabilizer trim wheels on the center pedastal are chain driven by the auto-pilot. Noisy. The AP makes constant trim changes during approach. Pilot can drive trim wheels manually with a fold-out hand crank or electrically with a hat switch on the control column. Yes, the trim wheels WILL spin electrically with the fold out hand crank extended and knock the pilots knees. I think the hand crank handle is spring loaded closed.
JetMechMA 1 month ago
ANYTHING that adds safety, no matter how it's achieved , is a win. I just roll my eyes when I hear "well, pilots have been flying planes for decades without HUD and they did just fine" Really? That's your argument against it? Someday, a terrible accident will be avoided, and the pilot will say "I was using the HUD and was able to keep my eyes up the entire approach, and that is when I saw the deer standing on the runway, and was able to avoid it" Without HUD, I may have not seen them."
0boeing0aircraft0 1 month ago 61
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Exactly. Being a pilot is not about being macho, but about flying. It is tiring to hear all those flight simulator pilots or aviation enthusiasts get all gung-ho about which aircraft 'tests' a 'real pilot' as compared to another.
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@0boeing0aircraft0 There is a video on here where an Italian fighter pilot almost flies directly into an airliner at cruise altitude because the airliner is hidden in the horizon line of the HUD. The viewer knows it's there and you can see the vapor trail as it works it's way toward the fighter but behind the horizon line in the display. Then when it's too late to react, he turns just AFTER the airliner flies by. Airliner never saw him at all.
JetMechMA 1 month ago
@0boeing0aircraft0 Hitting a deer isn't all that awful with a plane. I did it with a Jetstream (wasn't pretty, but all was ok) full of passengers. Now, an elk or a moose? Different story. Wouldn't want to hit that with neither the 737 nor the 777 :-)
LINDAKBECKER 1 month ago
@happyturtle18 Sorry, just this technoligy these days...
NeffGamer 1 month ago
I did not know that some airliners had a hud....about time, much safer.
monkeyboy85 1 month ago
I'd rather "cheat" on every landing by reading off a HUD than risk killing myself and 300 other people just because I want to prove I'm a skilled pilot.
evilant 1 month ago 97
@evilant Thats known as resource management! If its there USE IT! No shame in that!
rev4life03 1 month ago
@evilant well, shouldnt landing be something even a regular or bad pilot can do without any problems? i mean, thats what a pilot is supposed to do, otherwise he wouldnt be a pilot, or would he? i mean, its his job. id rather be kinda worried, if a pilot could only land with the help of a HUD. however, nice video.
haeddus 1 month ago
@evilant And i'm pretty positive these pilots aren't trying to prove their "skills" or impress anyone except with being safe..the top priority is landing a jet full of hundreds of people SAFELY, not to earn brownie points for how skilled one is using minimal amount of equipment, that is the dumbest thing i've ever heard. I'd like to see any one of these morons argue that with a reputable pilot..
herointoast 1 month ago
@evilant AMEN friend!!!! AMEN AMEN
vman66441 1 month ago
@evilant thats why you practice with an empty plane.. what if the HUD display fails.. a good pilot will needs to know what to do.
NRAman123 3 weeks ago
@evilant First off, a 737 only seats a little over 100 passengers. Second off, if a pilot can't fly a straight in, visual approach in VMC, then maybe he shouldn't be flying. I'm not saying don't use the HUD. I'm just saying that a "normal" landing without a HUD is easy as pie.
kurtsnyder 2 weeks ago
@evilant GOOD!!
f1fan84 2 weeks ago
Airliners are not supposed to be like fighter aircraft; why try and make them like this?
Proper gauges are much easier to read than any of this digital green glow.
SamuelJamieArnold 1 month ago
@SamuelJamieArnold A HUD Has a Total Velocity Vector also known as Flight Path Marker, its the green donut thingy on HUD. It is much easier to land with that as the FPM indicates where your aircraft is gonna be at, so the pilots just need to make sure the "donut" pointed at the Runway and focus on their Angle of Attack etc.
zhiheng2005 1 month ago
@SamuelJamieArnold had you seen a hud in an airplane, a car or a reflex sight on a rifle you'd know they are razor sharp.
RedgardH 1 month ago
@SamuelJamieArnold because its better....
skat0r 1 month ago
@skat0r Have you tried one? Do you fly aircraft? I'm a young pilot and ordinary gauges are easier to me.
We recently transitioned from analogue gauges to EFIS displays, and I find it harder to use.
SamuelJamieArnold 1 month ago
@SamuelJamieArnold yes i tried one. yes i fly aircrafts, i am a young pilot too. I also have my IFR so i know what it is...Its easier to keep your head out to check for the runway and the instruments at the same time, not waving your head up and down every second.
skat0r 1 month ago
The HUD is very impressive
2Phast4Rocket 1 month ago
epic *__*
jelson95 1 month ago
Is this Real life, or a simulator?
NeffGamer 1 month ago
@NeffGamer real life lol
happyturtle18 1 month ago
HUD allows lower minimums for non-autoland airplanes. Some airlines find that better than a dual autopilot. If you have an autoland capable aircraft the HUD is not necessary, just neat to have, unless one autopilot is non operational, obviously.
nuno1007 1 month ago
@nuno1007 They're not just a "neat to have". They vastly improve overall situational awareness, and provide for much more precise manually-controlled flight. Also, although autolands are indeed great landing devices, you can't take off with them in low-vis conditions. With a HUD, you can. For airlines, it's a big bummer to land but not be able to depart again. Makes for a nice parking lot.
pnwavfan 1 month ago
love the HUD!
GoProStuff 1 month ago
nice display. HUDs are beast
117nathanmyers 1 month ago
ooh i had no idea that commerical jetliners have HUDs too
i thought thats only for military planes
happosai27 1 month ago
@lolvks ok thanks one question though? why would they need HUD when they have all
the instruments on the pannel ?
redstar1110 1 month ago
@redstar1110 so they don't have to take their eyes off of where they are going and HUDs are also very simple and fast compared to the instruments.
117nathanmyers 1 month ago
@redstar1110 Ever tried to look behind you to change lanes while driving, and keep your eyes on the crazy nut going 30 in a 65 in front of you at the same time? Same idea. Look up, look down, up, down, up down, again and again. No thanks.
CowTaurog 1 month ago
Lol... Neither my C-5 nor my 747-400 have a HUD...
jumboJetPilot 1 month ago
IF, FTD, Welcome aboard sailor!
enjjpt1003 1 month ago
Thanks for posting. I have flown into that airport so many times and always wondered what it looked like out the front window at night. Awesome!
megaflunky 1 month ago
is it a HUD or is it a camera on the front of the plane ? what is it?
redstar1110 1 month ago
@redstar1110 Its the HUD on the new 737s
lolvks 1 month ago
Great video! Its hard to find good stuff like this:)
NetworkAviation 1 month ago
PERFECT!
OrianaDiazL 1 month ago
Thank you to showing us such a nice video. Pilots are superhumans...:-)they all doing amazing job.
roztopenysneh 1 month ago
Having HUD is cheating
jakebwallace 1 month ago
awesome!!
SFSwitzerland 1 month ago
Correct me if i'm wrong but was the pilot using the ILS or flying with VFR???
gfruy 1 month ago
@gfruy It's obviously VFR conditions, but in the lower left center of the display "ILS1" is identified as the navigation source. That source is driving the calculated guidance commands, which are displayed via the relative position of the two concentric circles in the center of the display. Pilots will often use the HUD even in VFR, as it provides for much more precise approaches, and is good practice for later low-vis use. Some airlines require it for all approaches.
pnwavfan 1 month ago
@gfruy Landing in LAX, it would definitely be an instrument approach. However where it's not strictly VFR (as these are rules), it is VMC which relates to the weather conditions. Hope this helps :)
Harman999 1 month ago
smooth
11esky 1 month ago
I heard from a collegue that a few airlines in europe , Lufthansa being one of them ,wont let their airplanes be equipped with any avionics that allow auto flare to reduce skill attrition in its crews.
Tohellandback1usa1 1 month ago
@Tohellandback1usa1 questionable, a Lufthansa source link would be required.
gloxt 1 month ago
@Tohellandback1usa1 This doesn't do any "auto" flare. It does provide info related to the flare, but it's still a manually flown operation. That's sorta the whole point of the HUD; unlike with an autoland, everything is manually flown, just with a better, more precise presentation of the relevant information.
pnwavfan 1 month ago
@Tohellandback1usa1 That would be very impractical, as that would hinder the possibility of CAT III approaches, since LH does not use a hud, at least in its 737s.
It is however true, that many airline, Europe and worldwide, encourage manual flying whenever practical.
Fabo0315 1 month ago
wow. amazing.
usaeagle1776 1 month ago
At about 40 feet, around the time the guidance cue goes away, little crosses can be seen flashing above each end of the "wings" on the flight path circle. Those are an indicator that the flare maneuver has to be performed. In the correct approach display mode, the HGS actually provides guidance to the pilot for performing a proper flare maneuver, at the right time.
Someone asked about the round indicator at the top right of the HUD. It's an angle of attack indicator.
pnwavfan 1 month ago
Or, as someone correctly posted, "All you have to do is put the thing on the thing on the thing." In this display mode, the combined localizer/glideslope deviation is basically represented by the displacement of that small circle from the bigger circle (the inertial flight path). If the circles are concentric, then the plane is being flown correctly on the desired path. So the pilot flies the big circle to chase down the little one. At a low altitude, the small guidance circle goes away.
pnwavfan 1 month ago
The post "Its not designed for Autolands and Cat 3 approaches, thats what EVS is for!" is a bit confused. This HUD is specifically designed for manually-flown Cat 3 approaches, without the use of an autoland. EVS (showing infrared video, or similar) is not for Cat 3 approaches, at least not yet. Regarding the guidance for Cat 3, the key is to keep the two circles in the middle of the display concentric. The big one shows where the plane is going, the little one says which way to go.
pnwavfan 1 month ago
The symbology in this video seems pretty busy, and that's because the HGS is in "Primary" mode, which isn't typically used for landing. There are other display modes for landing, with greatly reduced symbology, to avoid clutter and obscuration. This Primary mode is normally used for the cruise phase of flight, and has a lot of additional information. Somebody mentioned the civilian vs. military symbology. That's because the HUD symbols need to be "consistent" with what's shown on the PFDs.
pnwavfan 1 month ago
Regarding terminology, "HUD" is a generic term for a head-up display. "HGS" is the RC trademark for "Head-up Guidance System", which is applied to many of the RC HUDs. This is because many of these HUDs also incorporate sophisticated guidance algorithms to determine how the pilot should manually control the aircraft to a landing, usually for low-visibility conditions. Many of these also provide low-viz takeoff guidance, which autolands can not do.
pnwavfan 1 month ago
As for the 737 family, Alaska, Delta, Southwest, Korean, American and others fly with the RC HUDs. The Boeing Business Jet version of the 737 has HUDs standard; HUDs are optional or retrofit on all other 737s. Model 2300 on the Classics, and Models 2350 and 4000 on the NGs. The newest of these are actually late 90s CRT-based systems, but they still work well. The above all have a single left-side head; there are 737s with dual HUDs flown by the Turkish AF.
pnwavfan 1 month ago
Will try to provide some clarification/answers to many of the comments here.
Lots of commercial planes have HUDs, with the market dominated by a division of Rockwell Collins in Portland, Oregon. First product was for Alaska Airlines 727s. Then Canadair RJs, and Dash 8s, and 737 Classics. And then 737 NGs. And Embraer 145s. And various high-end business jets (Bombardier, Canadair, Dassault, Gulfstream). And the Lockheed C-130J. C-130 AMP. C-27J. And 787. Embraer 170/190. And more.
pnwavfan 1 month ago
did you notice the illuminati sign in the top
1994punkrocker 1 month ago
Impressively well-set altimeter.
edmedmoped 1 month ago
hud hud hud!
weiselwitzz 1 month ago
Smooth operators! Nice video :)
Bugger90 1 month ago
pmdg 737 ngx!!
drope134 1 month ago
@drope134
What the hell is wrong with you? Its real world landing.
PHGNetworks 1 month ago
That sound is the trim wheel
murdamechanik 2 months ago
Great video. Would like to have seen a little bit more after touchdown.
pqxxedf 2 months ago
Who manufactures this HUD? Honeywell? Rockwell-Collins? Do you have a Model # of the HUD.
marker2368 2 months ago
@marker2368 Doesn't Honeywell and Rockwell-Collins manufacture the old and new LCD MCP of the 737NG?
saranghaelove1 2 months ago
Nice - but why cut the rollout short? :(
PeetPeeet 2 months ago
Damn, when it was time to bring it down, not sure if it was the flight control system or the pilot, but it came down in a heartbeat!
9b8 2 months ago
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What's that sound at 0:07 (and a couple of others) that sounds like someone's sharpening their Ginsu knives :) ? Great vid. Thanks for sharing :)
TrueCourse 2 months ago
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TrueCourse 2 months ago
Turn the lights on
dkoy123 2 months ago
I didn't even know they used HUDs on airliners. Very enlightening.
generalripper1964 2 months ago
textbook! awesome landing!
pdmmdk 2 months ago
NEXTGEN THE FUTURE!!!!!!!!
GodfatherGaming1 2 months ago
I love the countdown
spencer82rocks 2 months ago
Oh this is very cool and I'm glad to shared this, Thanks!
JohnnyNCindy 2 months ago
I love that "500" callout! :)
Arkipelago2 2 months ago 63
@Arkipelago2 Is that the B747 GPWS?
DssRafaleM01 1 month ago
nice! y no papi lights?
MaxIsPro1 2 months ago
Great vid! Nothing like the real thing. I love the HUD on this bird! Nice landing!
Starbuckin 2 months ago
are those random green dots at 1:13 green laser pointers or some sort of reflection?
Crysinator 2 months ago
elegance
Limbo600 2 months ago
-100vs very nice
efastMixer 2 months ago
Sorry but I have no clue, I was just wondering, is that green smaller reticule he's following tell him where his nose should be pointing? Does he have to follow it manually or is it automatic?
Yeaaaaaaaahhhhhhh 2 months ago
six airbus driver disliked this video.
Blazingspitfire 2 months ago
@Blazingspitfire you can't even sound smart you retard...airbus PILOT not driver
NSRacer114 2 months ago