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  • at the begining ogf the race the z wasnt even trying, he caught up as soon as he hit the gas

  • It was a good race, I am a owner of a 350z. You need to do some work to get them to move though, but if want power gos with the Alpha 12 GTR. It kills american muscle :)

  • @mikeandtricia350Z I just picked up a GTR a couple weeks ago, can't wait to order the new mods. You interested in buying a turbo kit for a Z?

  • @chriman17 i just got one but what are you selling? what kit and price?

  • @mikeandtricia350Z ur leavin out the vette zr1 it kills that gtr piece of shit in every category

  • @KaySlay654 just like the vette the gtr has diff models, look it up. The alpha 6, 9 and 12. The alpha 12 gtr has 1500hp, ams performance is who makes the alpha edition gtrs. So ya, I would putup a alpha against any vette, anyday!!!!

  • @mikeandtricia350Z Forget the 350z - very slow , buy an R34 GTR V-Spec theres nothing that will compete

  • @R34GTRR35  alpha 12 gtr will, its 1500hp awd. But not all people can afford gtr's. So I have a 350z and its also my dream car, i love the look of the z...

  • @mikeandtricia350Z i had a 350z too they are really slow and to heavy , if you mod the engine the 350z just wheel spins . perfect drift car though

  • @R34GTRR35 ive had great luck with my z. I beat awd cars off the line, that was with 34 chips intake exhaust and a racing clutch. Now im going turbo. Theres alot of 350z hitting 11's with the right setup. So really if you were not getting good times and wheel spin you werent launching correctly and driving it right :)

  • @mikeandtricia350Z Yeah right , beat my R34 GTR . Im LOLING Already

  • @R34GTRR35 how much hp are you pushing, the alpha 12 gtr is 1500hp and a 8 sec car.

  • @R34GTRR35 you dont even own one. i went to your page, if someone has a car like that they would vids of it. LOL a hating wannabe lmfao

  • @mikeandtricia350Z i dont need vids to prove i own an R34 GTR Vspec , i speaking from experience . We are currently involved in building the first Alpha 12 in Australia - Adelaide

  • @R34GTRR35 so your saying you work for ams performance. Ams performance iswho makes the alpha 12 edition, thay have them in Vegas ready to go.

  • @mikeandtricia350Z But you cant get Skylines in the States ,you poor buggers

  • @R34GTRR35  load up vids of your build:)

  • @mikeandtricia350Z I have my hands full without loading gay little youtube vids that people just troll over , go to Skylines Australia . com and type in search

    " ALPHA 12 Heading Downunder " .

  • @R34GTRR35 come on now, anyone can post a link but what ever

  • @R34GTRR35  typo 3 chips

  • The Cadillac CTS-V would have dusted the sorry "Z". The "Z" is old, crude, ugly, and uncomfortable.

    Who in their right mind would buy such unadulterated trash?

    Newer Japanese cars are LOADED with radiation. That means birth defects for your children. Nice parents. They should be JAILED!

  • I wouldn't race anything in a Challenger. those damn things weigh as much as many trucks.

  • which pixel was the challenger?

  • I drove 2 different Hemi Challengers, the handling was very dissappointing with both of them. I then tried out a 350z convertible= much heavier than a hardtop... have to say, the 350z would put the challenger to shame on any curvy track, plus its tremendously more refined than the challenger.

  • and not to mention im just shooting off at the mouth haha. the reason for this is i am doing up a buick right now. i also have a 440 sitting in the shop but just dont have the funds for both. to bad. the buick will come first. my 69 gs is gonna be wild.  will make video soon.

  • do you have plans for the dodge? it would be cool to see how they do with the same money spent on each.

  • @dicktheguncheney We actually sold the challenger a couple months ago so no plans now. We tossed around the idea of putting a procharger on it, but never materialized. GTR's are extremely fast, especially considering they are factory stock. However like the Buick, they are 4000 pound boats.Technology has come a long ways, can't forget GTR's only have a small v6 in comparison to the Buicks Big Block.

  • here is a link to Greg Gessler and his stock appearing 1972 Buick. he has had plenty of success with this car. . 4000 lbs is lots even for the giant torque monster under its hood. i would love to throw modern supercharging tech at this motor. slap it into your 350 z . also it weights less than a SB Chevy with aluminum heads.

  • an old 1970 Buick skylark GS with a stage 1 455 big block would blow the doors of a brand new skyline like nothing. there are guys running in the mid to high tens with these cars that look for all the world to be bone stock. they are not of course; however, you or i could never tell that they have been touched at all. they even have the biased ply tires and all. the same ol quadrajet carb that has been masauged to pump out nearly 900 cfm's . heaven forbid you ever run into a stage 2

  • @dicktheguncheney

    Uh, no. No factory muscle car excluding racecar specials would outrun a GTR. I don't even like the GTR but it's still a fast car. High 11s, low 12s stock. The Stage 1s would be lucky to run a 12 anything off the showroom floor. And there were only 15 Stage 2s ever built. Hardly a production car and I still bet the GTR would beat it. And I don't care that "there are guys running mid high tens that loo for all the world to be bone stock." If it isn't stock, it doesn't count.

  • @bdl558907 hmmm, so the 2011 mustang Gt or 2011 camaro ss wouldn't beet a gtr "stock for stock"? are you an idiot?

  • Judging from the video, the challenger still beat the 350Z xD.

  • @pcjackerfromhell2 not even close, we own both cars so no favoritism between the two, the z is just a lot lighter and a lot more power. 

  • @chriman17 I agree with you about that. If only the Challenger was made 400 or 500 lbs lighter. It could have beaten the mustang or challenger at the same specs.

  • Ahahahah dis guy below me is funnylol

  • who won

  • cars need Forced inductions to be fast..

    whether import,muscle,euro...lets get real here ppl...

    this debate of what's better is retarded

    can't we just appreciate what we can do with

    these machines... damn this world is Effd up

  • imports need turbos to be fast

  • Nissan Skyline GT-R vs Nissan GT-R and Corvette ZR1 vs Nissan GT-R  COPY AND PASTE ALL YOU MUSCLE LOVERS

  • @07350zhr thats why there is no nissan's in the 24hr's of le mans huh. and corvettes have done it since the what 60's lol. american cars are the best. maybe some day your nissan will compete in real racing but until now i haven't seen it do anything. but street crap. it isnt a win unless there is a trophy and bragging rights. i dusted a 350z with my 40,000 mile honda cbr900rr in 5th gear didnt even have to hit 6th.

  • look up Ford Escort Cosworth...ive only seen 1 beat...ever...and its like this..."dude...you just got smoked by a Escort in your modded import...what you gonna do now"...

    "well...i think im gonna built my import up more so i can post another challenge and lose again"

  • your mom goes to college

  • I found him on the way back... Didn't have enough space

  • The Viper ACR, Corvette ZR1, and MC w/ samemoney put in it as was paid for the GTR would smoke the GTR no contest. I know that one for a fact, cuz I have a 69 Dodge Charger with a hand built naturally inducted six pack that goes 0-60 in 3.4 seconds and can top out at well over 210 mph. I've already takin down a 2001 Skyline Turbo, in the twists, on a dirt road, I made lost him in the 2 nd turn when I pulled away, found him on the seventh turn pulled over w/o an oil pan

  • I like those muscle car!!

  • well of course the 350 z didnt know that they were racing so then he just went for it but both of those cars are sick my uncle has a 350z and me and his raced a 2006 mustang and a supra

  • American Muscle baby

    eww ricer

  • dude imports are slow as fuck but loud as shit lol

  • @blazzing4321

    truu treuu

  • i find it funny when people reffer to a 350Z as an import jap car LOL

    its even funnyer when they refer to the engine to be such a good japanies engine LOL

  • he has to be spraying..listen to his engine at 0:12

  • @trickedmega1 Nah, it's turbo'd, you hear the turbo spooling up.

  • a 09 370 or even a 07 350 would have waxed that shit

  • @07350zhr If your referring to the z being waxed, not a chance. The z is running a little more than 450hp. It is turbo'd. The challenger vs a stock z would be very close. I know it was close before I through the turbo on the z.

  • @chriman17 no the challenger

  • @chriman17 if the challenger is an rt then yes it would be close if they were both stock, but the srt8 would kick a 350z anyday. That is an rt in the video right

  • @sergsrt8 You are correct, it is an RT. When we purchased the challenger, the SRT was not available in standard, so we chose the RT instead for the manual.

  • @chriman17 yea, i cant wait to get my 6 speed srt8. But doesnt it have some bullshit skipshift

  • @chriman17 the rt rides real nice but i was suprised how slow it was, its pretty heavy...nice cars though

  • @sergsrt8 the challenger is a giant fucking turd that weighs way to much . and trickedmega your a fuckin idiot you heard his turbo spooling

  • @chriman17 camaro takes the challenger easy in the 1/4.and if your z makes 450 a camaro is almost that

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  • @bigdaddy0228 They're nice cars, we have a shop near me that builds some ridiculous Camaro's. I think they just took 6th or 7th place at sema. As far as the stock ss goes, I never really see them making good times at the track. Check out redline motorsports if your a Camaro guy.

  • @chriman17 im not a camaro guy i was just stating a fact.thanks

  • @chriman17 what where the horse power figures like before and after the turbo???

  • @07350zhr Both the 350 and the 370 are crap besides the SRT-8. Nissan cannot compete with the domestics in terms of an affordable enthusiast car. You would have to pay nearly 100k to get the GTR. Domestics have real performance v-8 cars for around $35,000. Simply no competition, and if you factor in the looks, its no wonder even the Challanger sells more that the 370Z.

  • @Gabedaman30 Yeah and those $35,000 V8 performance cars would get destroyed by the GT-R in all forms of performance.

  • @kageryu311 When you can afford a GTR then we will talk.

  • @Gabedaman30 In the process of buying one right now. Trading my Z06 too. ;)

  • @kageryu311 you better bring along a spare transmission, the gtr is an epic FAIL

  • @meattube4u33 The GT-R transmission issues are taken care of.

  • @kageryu311 umm, NO THEY ARE NOT, they are still crapping out, nissan has not recalled them yet, but your warranty is VOID if you ever even once have used the launch assist, what an EPIC FAIL!!!

  • @meattube4u33 Why don't you actually provide articles and evidence to your claim. If you can't then STFU. Why would a company need to recall their cars if they fixed the issue and its not at a large scale?

  • @meattube4u33 yes the issues have been taken care of and you can use your launch control without voiding your warrenty

  • @07350zhr crap lol why does it always have to be a v8??????the 370 is the fastest v6 you can buy. imagine if there were v8 jap sports cars yall would be in trouble

  • @07350zhr not really cause we can buy a 600hp engine for 6g's and it is capable of holding a 400 shot of nitrous so there is 1,000hp for 6500 bucks lets see you do that with your import lol

  • American Block vs "ricers" really makes no difference fellas... I respect anyone that looks at a block and tries to squeeze the most possible horsepower and torque out of it... Nothing like sitting around on a saturday with sparks flying with your friends trying to fix or install something... true be told i have a 71 challenger and am into iron but totally respect the asian cars that cram all that horsepower out of that block ...respect to anyone that turns a wrench ~~ cheers my friends

  • @smoothskiing2000 Totally agree, arguing on youtube is dumb. If you dont have something positive to say, or a question that you can learn from, dont post it all.

    Cheers to you bro!

  • AMERICAN CARS ARE AN EMBARRASMENT FOR AMERICA!

  • challengers a boat.

    bolt on ls1s and terminators walk all over imports day by day

  • euro power haha

  • Nissan 350z's are one of the greatest cars ever made. NO JOKE!!!

  • the z wasnt even trying to go fast at first lmao

  • Tuners don't rule. If you know anything about automobiles, you would know that topfuel dragsters don't use 2.0 litre lawnmower motors that sound like fart cannons to do the 1/4 mile in 4.25 seconds @ 325mph. And I can promise you, I have a diesel excursion that will put any tuner to shame, so take your shitty cars and find a neon beat box somewhere, and screw your boyfriend!

  • Chuck Norris is holding me at Fist-point forcing me to say: "TUNERS RULE NOT ONLY IN STRAIGHT ROADS, BUT EVEN IN "REAL" ROADS WITH CURVES"...

  • @jedseggs If chuck norris drives an import, he still has a v12. Chuck norris decides how many cylinders he wants in his car, so he can easily catch his next victim.

  • IMPORT RULEZ

  • @steelstrings1312 R u a fukin idiot or sum cuz 1 i kno theyre made from the same fukin company and 2 torque is a measurement of power and how much it can haul u fukin idiot 3 all muscle cars do is go in a strate line but imports take over the street 5 cars r just meant to go in a line theyre meant to turn and drift but a non knowin person about cars like ur self wuld only kno that

    TUNERS ALL DAY ANY DAY EVERYDAY

  • Tuners are better than muscle all mucsle cars got is sound and torque plus challenger aint even a real muscle the charger will smoke dat challenger any day

  • @SaultheGreat106 okay for one you need to go back to grade school and take grammar 1 again. challengers and chargers are made by the SAME DAMN company and BOTH are classic american muscle. 3, torque is everything in a race because that gets you up to speed. sound is irrelevant because its simply the engine design. 4, muscle cars and engines have land speed and 1/4 mile records topped. AND muscle has one drift and road race championships.

  • imports all the way

  • and the camera man sounds like a dweeb.... ur dad has a way nicer car....even if ur cars quick...still aint as nice as your dads car...well at least not from a lil kids perspective

  • FOR ALL U HATERS OF MUSCLE

    LAST TIME I RECALL I DONT SEE NO GADDAMM IMPORTS BETING NO MUSCLE CARS

  • @chriman17

    lmfao .....look it up

    YOUTUBE:nyce1s.com

  • @chriman17 and look redicules mashed up in the windshield of that small car.

  • @fucknorcacas213 im not a muscle car hater i just call it as i see it..

  • @fucknorcacas213 Thats a double negative your basically saying you do see imports beating any muscle cars. You may want to change your name and not talk like a red neck if you want to be taken seriously

  • @fucknorcacas213 answer mk3 supra on pinks all out

  • i do u u just suckat life z always win biatch

  • @fucknorcacas213 I DONT SEE NO MUSCLE BEATING NO IMPORT CAR EITHER!!

  • @fucknorcacas213 oh hey dumbshit... this video didnt just download for you? cuz im pretty sure it beats it or at least catches right the hell up to it. at least import guys can say when there beat. muscle jocks just have to bring up how there "other car" thats got "THIS MUCH MORE HORSE POWER" can beat the one that just killed them... idiots.

  • @fucknorcacas213 get a life nut sack

  • @fucknorcacas213 Im sure a GTR is a import And im sure the only car that stands a chance is the ZR1. Muscle has so much more Torque. Not a hater for i have both a import in and muscle.

  • @fucknorcacas213 I do! hahaha. Saw a Chevy Camaro SS and a challenger RT get wiped about 2 hours ago by an Sti. muscle is cool, but it's not the best thing to come to this planet like many people talk it up to be. Not hatin', just saying the truth...

  • @fucknorcacas213 there are vids of fucking piece of shit altimas and camrys whopping rustangs and camaros so shut the fuck up bitch

  • @fucknorcacas213 the challenger is a disgrace to the muscle world so chill your ass down now if it was a mustang they woulda won lol

  • @SawyerTK7  RRRUSTANG!

  • @fucknorcacas213

    Shut your face and stop hollering you brain-dead imbred redneck white trash p.o.s. ignorant bastard child of a junkie mother.

    Also, learn to spell. It will help you in life.

  • @fucknorcacas213 You must be still living in the 70s

    .

  • @fucknorcacas213 <-----Kids, this guy is the reason you want to stay in school and learn how to spell correctly. Also make something of yourself, or at least learn what a fucking wrench is before you talk shit about something you have no idea of. Tell me sir, If your crankshaft turns 1 full rotation that is 360 degrees, how many rotations does your camshafts spin in relation, and how many cycles has it went through during that 1 crankshaft rotation in a 4 stroke engine? duhh duuhhh duhhhh, yeah.

  • @fucknorcacas213 im not a muscle hater but the toyota supra is very fuckn fast

  • @fucknorcacas213 i would like to see a muscle car try beting a tuner on a down hill race, muscle is only good for one thing and one thing only going straight

  • i like both... challenger cost a lot :( beyond my budget... but damn dodge definitely did a good job bringing it back... it looks the most orginal out of the stang and teh camaro... id definitely buy one if i had the money... too bad gas mileage isnt too good... but when u boost and mod the cars that much im pretty sure the car will eat mor gas anyways...

  • that 2009 challenger is not a muscle car its a slow piece of shit

  • @niggahigga123able what exactly do u drive?

  • @ITRIEDEL porsche 911

  • @niggahigga123able what year?

  • @ITRIEDEL 1996

  • umm anyone notice theirs no upgrades on the challenger but the 350z is heavily moded

  • If the Z has 500 HP it has some serious mods. How much was the twin turbo set up?? With that much modification it probably cost significantly more thatn the challenger. If you added 200 HP to the challenger it would be a seriously fast car. The only time import cars ever race muscle is when they have serious mods with lots of forced induction and the muscle car is stock. I would love to see this 350 Z race a muscle car that's twin turbo or with a big supercharger.

  • that 350z shit on that american rusty car

  • @Snake1337h4x0r 350z's r pos unless its modded like hell compared to a stock challenger

  • stupid people who cant understand that other countries make things better than their beloved u.s.a.

  • @TheGoddamnshutup but we do understand that u.s.a. could wipe out any other countriy in the world if they wanted to.

  • Common muscle excuses:

    #1) Wrong tires were put on

    #2) Wrong temperature for slicks

    #3) I couldn't hook up

    #4) I forgot to turn on the bottle

    #6) I forgot to open the cutouts

    #7) common fanboy bullshit and anti honda bullshit. Its funny that most people bash on Hondas, but they the best 4 cylinder motor there is. Think about if Honda made a 4 or 5 liter motor how good it would be. Oh wait, they already did. Its in Formula 1 right now.

  • @palefaced1 u mean the who was then changed to a mercedes engine because the team was bought?

  • im guessing the z has twin turbos for that kinda of power of 500hp + do a few mods to the challenger; boltons and see who wins, i rather have that challenger anyday over 350-rice. regardless of weight the challenger is alot more beast!

  • i dont dislike japanese cares just coz theyre japanese, its what people do to them, makes me sick, but in any case muscle cars are sweeter, they might not go as fast round a track but thats not the point, theyve got prescence, and that v8 noise.........i wanna touch myself

  • not really.. wouldnt suprise me if that challenger weighs close to 1000 pounds more then the 350z . It also wouldn't suprise me if that 350z has a little more done to it then what is shown.

  • When you put a small motor into a car the size of a sand flea, that's what happens. Of course, I'd love to see someone point to an Import that would match a Super Stock Barracuda. In case you're not familiar with the SS Mopars, let's put it this way. Imagine a lightened muscle car with a 426 Hemi that ISN'T de-tuned for insurance purposes like all the others. One with the Hemi as it was always meant to be. One with over 600 horses and running a mid-10-second quarter-mile. Stock in 1968.

  • imagine an import with an big ass motor,pointless post stfu

  • Imports don't come with big ass motors. Even a 2JZ is tiny as hell. Now, I'll grant you that if someone was weird enough to take a civic and stuff a 440 wedge or something in it, then it'd be properly bad-ass. However, they don't make 'em like that. Even crazy shit like the Lamborghini Diablo is only running tiny little 5L motor. When someone showed up with a 5L in NASCAR in 1971, it looked like a lunch box next to the competition.

    Displacement is not a means to an end, but an end itself.

  • oh! (didnt realize, speakers sometimes act funky to me it sounded like the 350 had a turbo... hate this computer) well if THATS the case, just put it up againt my buddy'e 79 Mustang LX. 2.3 liter 4 banger, Head, Cam and a header with a swapped out carb. hauls ass for an old 4 banger 4 spd

  • you want a REAL race, replace that 09 with a 70 Challenger 440 6 pack, beefier cam, posi rear 4 spd, leafed on 10 inch slicks. THAT'll give that 350 a run off the line it'll never forget XD

  • Last time i was at the track i saw.... 1 LT1 trans am lol. Lot's of 300zx, 240sz, evos, supras, skylines, stangs, and 3rd gen camaros.

  • Just dont go dissing muscle cars in front of my face though or we are having problems!

  • DAMN STRAIT WE ARE! the new challenger runs like shit in the 1/4 mile, the new camaro looks like a bad rash and pontiacs gone. WHY can't god just cut us a break give us our cheap gas prices and let V8's roam free again?

  • Love American Muscle And My dad has a blue 350z 6 speed and I can tell anyone they are fun cars to drive regardless what you're into... I myself own a 67 mustang coupe with a Kenne bell 4.6 but I'm not against 350Z... only honda's and ricers not imports... Rally cars are EVO and STI and those are fun to take around logging roads... but not for racing so much... 350Z are rear wheel drive tuners that can drift factory, and burn rubber just like a muscle car but without the same feel or sound.....

  • 72 charger is a qwer!

  • your a fag, you probably drive an import dont you? thats cool, i used to be an import guy but i got hooked on american muscle and relized how much funner they are, imports dont compare to the experience and feel of american muscle, especially classic muscle!

  • your a queer

  • No one seems to notice the 350z was either not racing at the beginning or just missed a gear or something.... a fucking smart accelerates faster than that. The 350z would have eaten that muscle up.

  • That was my father driving the challenger and I let him have a tractor trailer head start before launching. The chase car couldn't keep up to see me slam the brakes when I was right next to him. The z is nearly 200 more hp than our challenger.

  • ahhh okay still both are rly nice cars and i wouldnt mind having any of these :P

  • @chriman17 the vid should be named severly modded car vs stock one

  • @chriman17 ya but look how fast that thing desided to catch up to it. and when i just looked on 1/4 mile times that challenger is suppose to run 13.3 and the nissan 350z 13.4 sec.

  • @chriman17 sorry man... but if you cant get a new SRT8 Challenger or SS Camaro to run in the 13's then you have bad driving skills.... ESPECIALLY IF YOU CAN ONLY RUN 12'S WITH A TURBOCHARGED 350Z

  • @94probewithheaders Im a ford guy but challenger sucks big time, weight like 3500 pound is a boat

  • @diegotutiven true but u can always get the 1000hp mr nome edition one. i dont think weight has much to do when u have that much power ^_^

  • @atreyukicks ive couldnt of sayd it better my self Sir.

  • well,i like muscles and imports,but i hate stock challengers.They dont even stand a chance against the 350 z.Because the 350 is lighter,has a good balance between power and handling and a damn good traction control,it is a good opponent even for cars like the porsche 911.And the challenger on the other hand is fat-assed and burns alot of energy unnecessary.A mustang gt or a camaro would´ve been a better match here.

  • the challenger is the heaviest fucking thing on earth, not that great of a kill

  • favoriting for all the muscle head friends i have.

  • hahaha did you see that 350 on boost? was about to eat that muscle

  • not a fan of the new challenger. massive power which i do love tho.

  • how come the ric.... i mean "z" was riced the fuck out and the challenger was 100% stock and didn't even look like it was racing?

  • neither car was stock, we own both.  The challenger does not stand a chance against the z, 1000 pounds heavier and the z is pushing close to 500hp.

  • the challenger is a piece of shit car anyways, muscle or not, now tell me how the fuck you know the challenger is 1000 pounds heavier and the z has 500hp just by watching this fucking video you retard

  • Well we do own both cars and we did mod both, so that might be your first clue on how I know.

  • hmhmmm didn't realize i was talking to the owner of the video, first of all, how the fuck can you afford them, second why buy horrible cars that are over priced? viper cost as much as both put together and is insanly faster

  • hahaha yea that kind of explains how he knows...

  • ignorant prick you are

  • dirty little nigger you are

  • @suckseggs god your dumb