@JAFrk This is technically english analysis with korean commentary in the background. The video title is somewhat misleading. But the analysis is top notch.
@cassiaro So let me get this straight. You come to a video that is 4 years old, watch all sixteen minutes of it, and from that you make a sweeping remark about all English commentary? Do you really think that's valid? And before you make a witty analogy about my commenting on a 6 month old comment, I just need to tell you that it's really not that witty.
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these commentators are doing terrible. i'm watching attacks be made and basically the game being decided, and these guys aren't saying jack shit about it. I'm tired of hearing about the build order tell me about the game plz. its a commentary not a documentary
These commentators assumed that you can see what is going on and decided to give a deeper commentary, if it is not to your taste, you can always watch other commentators.
is this the original bisu build match? where can i find the korean version? like i want to hear what the korean commentators say as they witness the bisu build being played for the first time.
The commentattor with the louder voice sounds really bored or uninspired :P. I don't understand Korean but I like how Korean commentators practically scream D:
I remember reading VioleTAK's comments about this final last year, and watching this epic matchup - I see EXACTLY what VioleTAK means... it all comes down to attitude. You either adjust to your new circumstances humbly and become greater, or you remain stubborn and proud and fall.
I need to look at Savior's games since this MSL final to really see if this is the case...
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really dont know wut has been savior doing....he got owned by bisu a million times, and all he need was just 1 air colony and one sunken colony at each base, then he can just simply slaughter bisu.
i guess that you should play some more years of starcraft before commenting these games. 1 air + sunken may not even be enough dealing with one dark templar... and how the hell can he slaughter bisu with 1 sunken colony oO!!!? bisu isn't zerg. not even to mention that sunken attack only works early in the games against ZERG ONLY
i guess that you should play some more years of starcraft before commenting these games. 1 air + sunken may not even be enough dealing with one dark templar... and how the hell can he slaughter bisu with 1 sunken colony oO!!!? bisu isn't zerg. not even to mention that sunken attack only works early in the games against ZERG ONLY
u mean u r... as you can see in the 3rd game, his main dangers are corsair harass and ground attack. the main problem here is the corsair and ground unit's constant wave attack. of course i know spore is a detecter don't mention about the obvious things like noobs do. his lords can help him 2 but that's what bisu targets with harass. even if savior adapts to DT he still lose so don't tell me that sunken and spore SLAUGHTS bisu. his strategy JUST DOESN'T SUIT bisu's counter
the commentators gotta improve. the savior didn't kno bisu's gonna go fast expand until like he sent his overlord. and it ain't amazing tat savior did double expansion cuz tat's the norm for zerg's answer for protoss' two nexus strategy. also, the fast stargate's been used for ages against zerg players so tat corsair can be used to kill overlords and scout the enemy lines at the same time....
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dude, i get tat, but still the commentator still didn't fully understood the moves of wat the players were doing compared to the korean commentators. the korean commentators were doing live and they knew in advance wat build it is while the english ones went like, "man, wat the hell are these players thinking??" for example, as i said earlier, they were surprised corsair came out so fast.
Day, the more talkative commentator, is like #1 zerg in the USA and has gone to the WCG grand finals 2 years, so to say he doesn't understand is just laughable.
Don't be a noob, they're among the highest ranking players in America.
Your also totally wrong about them being surprised. For one thing they've both seen thiss game before, and another, like I said, they understand builds perfectly as they are each such good players.
Very boring to listen to... Had I already seen the match a few times like they had, I could have appreciated what they had to say more. I guess the Korean commentators and Klazart act more like sports commentators, telling us what is happening, not what will/has/should/would happen. My $.02
what does like "12 hatchery/11 pool" mean? I see build orders with 12/12, 12/11, and I figured they referred to the supply but 12/11 doesn't make sense?
As a huge fan of both of these players, i beleive that Savior did not take it as seriouly as he should have. HE went for the expansions way to fast, and didnt take his usually route, of making the enemy withfdraw, back into their base.Bisu, oon the other hand, had the momentum goin for him from the start.
P.S. anyone wanna play me msg me on Broodwar, and my user name is E]s-thierjp
For all who are saying that these guys dont talk about the game is because they are not broadcasting it, they are analizing it. If you put your hear in the haedphones with lot of care, you will see the game as a progamer view.
Lol, neeeh. neeehh. Neeeh means yes. There are two Korean ex-professional SC players that do all the strategy, interesting fact talk and the main guy who's not a pro agrees by saying neeeh (yes in Korean). The main guy also just says just basic gameflow things such as, he's going up, he's building two gateways, etc..
savior should gone cheaper hydra + ling instead of expensive muta and with the rest get some sunks + spore at all bases... I don't see how bisu would stop a mass hydra ling attack 10 mins after the game started.
I dont see what you mean exactly, Bisu's scouting was perfect he knew what sAviOr was up to at all times, if he saw sAviOr changing anything at all he'd change his play of course, and I dont see how you can say he "can't stop X attack after 10min" if that was true he'd always do it 100% of the games and win them all, there's no attack that cant be stopped if responding the right way.
Ah 240p, we meet again!
suciobobo 1 month ago
is that NonY ? :D
TheStillenacht 1 month ago
@TheStillenacht Tyler
TheBaconofWar 1 month ago
@TheBaconofWar That's the same guy -.-
KristianBengts1991 3 days ago
what kind of commentary is this? fking commentating the game and stop speculating crap that doesnt happen
JAFrk 4 months ago
@JAFrk This is technically english analysis with korean commentary in the background. The video title is somewhat misleading. But the analysis is top notch.
NickolisIrby 3 months ago
Savior through this game. FRuck him.
BobBurnnquist 4 months ago
pretty impressive quality for 240p
Sapreme 6 months ago
Thanks Team Liquid for the epic bump! I've never heard Sean and Tyler cast these games, and I'm loving it to death.
BreathofArda 6 months ago 6
I'm sure people were wearing their savior and bisu jerseys while watching this...
AmericanNohbuddy 1 year ago
Comparing the koreans on the background with the americans on the foreground... the Occident has a LONG, LONG way to go.. what a shitty cast
cassiaro 1 year ago
@cassiaro So let me get this straight. You come to a video that is 4 years old, watch all sixteen minutes of it, and from that you make a sweeping remark about all English commentary? Do you really think that's valid? And before you make a witty analogy about my commenting on a 6 month old comment, I just need to tell you that it's really not that witty.
Ecrilon 1 year ago
Day9 seems so much more Vulgar in this commentary
NotATubeSurfer 1 year ago 2
Those Korean commentators get really excited dont they??
You guys commentate ok, atleast i can understand you.
Diablo666Daemon666 1 year ago
What a trip down memory lane - we miss you, Maestro!
PolygonreVue 2 years ago
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omg this commentary is so bad
just translate the korean
mindovermattjr 2 years ago
@mindovermattjr
Do you actually KNOW who is commentating
Its fukin Day9 and
NONY..'nuff said
gotohellpunk 2 years ago 9
yeah, definitely
Gunslinger145 2 years ago
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these commentators are doing terrible. i'm watching attacks be made and basically the game being decided, and these guys aren't saying jack shit about it. I'm tired of hearing about the build order tell me about the game plz. its a commentary not a documentary
mkj1313 2 years ago
At first I didn't understand why people appreciated Klazart's (please excuse if I get his name wrong) commentating, but now I do.
TheOtherFiddler 2 years ago
klazart is a favorite of mine
mkj1313 2 years ago
This is more of a commentary on the build Bisu used, than it is a commentary of the actual game.
haiguise 2 years ago 8
These commentators assumed that you can see what is going on and decided to give a deeper commentary, if it is not to your taste, you can always watch other commentators.
Tergiga 2 years ago 10
The great revolution of pvz incited by bisu....
Linkmarth 2 years ago 2
this is great love older vods
swimwithRT 2 years ago
is this the original bisu build match? where can i find the korean version? like i want to hear what the korean commentators say as they witness the bisu build being played for the first time.
Da1337ed 2 years ago
ITS NONY AND DAY9 COMMENTATIN. ie. really good players!
gotohellpunk 3 years ago 2
more like BEASTu
comendgetit 3 years ago
I've seen a lot of war3, starcraft replays and i was wondering if they know where the enemy base are?
kresslack99 3 years ago
No, they don't, they guess at one of the Starting areas, then they go to each starting position until they find it
Linx0101 3 years ago
lmao
pivotman132 3 years ago
fucking korean they shout so much
:))
Helios8888 3 years ago
dude you russian wow your a pisseed off bitch
pivotman132 3 years ago
not russian you noob
Helios8888 2 years ago
Um...that would be a good thing. Korean commentators > everyone lol.
homie8333 2 years ago
The commentattor with the louder voice sounds really bored or uninspired :P. I don't understand Korean but I like how Korean commentators practically scream D:
NwebYT 3 years ago 5
That's Nony. And he's chill, not bored :P
pianomikey0 3 years ago
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actually... this guy sounds like he has down syndrom, we need to get him hooked on phonix
and bisu, kicked this guys ass, theres no other way to say it
dollymex420 3 years ago
Dude commentators hella spoiled the match for me.
Shouldn't do that.
Half the fun about watching these is the suspense and having your own personal predictions.
HereticChicken 3 years ago
my friend beat day[9] 2-0 rofl
i didnt believe him till i saw the rep
sirlancealittle9 3 years ago
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that was freaking hilarious, all those azns...rofl
Skawesome18 4 years ago
I remember reading VioleTAK's comments about this final last year, and watching this epic matchup - I see EXACTLY what VioleTAK means... it all comes down to attitude. You either adjust to your new circumstances humbly and become greater, or you remain stubborn and proud and fall.
I need to look at Savior's games since this MSL final to really see if this is the case...
jungular 4 years ago 4
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really dont know wut has been savior doing....he got owned by bisu a million times, and all he need was just 1 air colony and one sunken colony at each base, then he can just simply slaughter bisu.
OnmyRedEye 4 years ago
i guess that you should play some more years of starcraft before commenting these games. 1 air + sunken may not even be enough dealing with one dark templar... and how the hell can he slaughter bisu with 1 sunken colony oO!!!? bisu isn't zerg. not even to mention that sunken attack only works early in the games against ZERG ONLY
stoneheart92 3 years ago
i guess that you should play some more years of starcraft before commenting these games. 1 air + sunken may not even be enough dealing with one dark templar... and how the hell can he slaughter bisu with 1 sunken colony oO!!!? bisu isn't zerg. not even to mention that sunken attack only works early in the games against ZERG ONLY
stoneheart92 3 years ago
u stupid? he can at least SEE the dk and do something about it. savior is great at defences with drones and new units timing.
OnmyRedEye 3 years ago
u mean u r... as you can see in the 3rd game, his main dangers are corsair harass and ground attack. the main problem here is the corsair and ground unit's constant wave attack. of course i know spore is a detecter don't mention about the obvious things like noobs do. his lords can help him 2 but that's what bisu targets with harass. even if savior adapts to DT he still lose so don't tell me that sunken and spore SLAUGHTS bisu. his strategy JUST DOESN'T SUIT bisu's counter
stoneheart92 3 years ago
Would be better to do a Double english Commentary over skype (sounds like you did it with speaker phone)
TillamookCheesE 4 years ago
yeah but its still better than korean...
kluczowaty 4 years ago
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i fucjing hate linkin park and all that shit angry rap-rock garbage
bullbunnies 4 years ago
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jeez if your gona dis linkin park and rap-rock just keep the comments to your self jeez
EvilArcherDude 4 years ago
JEEZ LAWEEZ!
Rastlol 3 years ago
wow that was a pretty tight match
i tell my friends that dts and corsairs could work but they dont believe me -_-
despite what these other ppl were saying, i thought your commentary was pretty interesting. nice job!
jewboi69 4 years ago 15
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the commentators gotta improve. the savior didn't kno bisu's gonna go fast expand until like he sent his overlord. and it ain't amazing tat savior did double expansion cuz tat's the norm for zerg's answer for protoss' two nexus strategy. also, the fast stargate's been used for ages against zerg players so tat corsair can be used to kill overlords and scout the enemy lines at the same time....
busisgo 4 years ago
buddy
its not a live game commentary
it is an analysis on the game. its almost like those post game commentary, except that its throughout the whole game.
republicansridiots 4 years ago 5
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dude, i get tat, but still the commentator still didn't fully understood the moves of wat the players were doing compared to the korean commentators. the korean commentators were doing live and they knew in advance wat build it is while the english ones went like, "man, wat the hell are these players thinking??" for example, as i said earlier, they were surprised corsair came out so fast.
busisgo 4 years ago
Day, the more talkative commentator, is like #1 zerg in the USA and has gone to the WCG grand finals 2 years, so to say he doesn't understand is just laughable.
loophole64 4 years ago 5
Don't be a noob, they're among the highest ranking players in America.
Your also totally wrong about them being surprised. For one thing they've both seen thiss game before, and another, like I said, they understand builds perfectly as they are each such good players.
jjay75 4 years ago 6
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huh??? GRAMMAR Busisgo!!!!!
hollismuenster 4 years ago
Very boring to listen to... Had I already seen the match a few times like they had, I could have appreciated what they had to say more. I guess the Korean commentators and Klazart act more like sports commentators, telling us what is happening, not what will/has/should/would happen. My $.02
m0ngh 4 years ago
This is a different kind of commentary.
SeanithanEgan 4 years ago
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fuck his v oice is annoynig
OrangeKentor 4 years ago
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wtf is this shit game
r0flown3du111 4 years ago
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n00b
Zlatan0095 4 years ago
what map is this?
MysticDuder 4 years ago
uh
it says
longinus?
TillamookCheesE 4 years ago
Is this a translation of the Korean commentary?
lin2k4 4 years ago
nope
xsagradoxcorazonx 4 years ago
nope.
xsagradoxcorazonx 4 years ago
Thanks for answering my question... twice
lin2k4 4 years ago
sorry about that, did not do that intentionally. ^_^
xsagradoxcorazonx 4 years ago
korean komentars are much nicer :D they coment like their life depends on it ;D
ky4ence 4 years ago
SEARCH KLAZARTSC for 140 English commentary videos. No kidding.
MshrF 4 years ago 24
lovely
ms9ball 4 years ago
Try looking for KlazartSC. Does some good live commentaries.
shino24 4 years ago 7
yea Klaz is the best english commentator IMO.
ggifilose 4 years ago 5
I like korean commentary better. theyre crazier.
TerranFan11111 4 years ago
kick-ass commentary
soumonism 4 years ago
DAy and NonY own ~
Dobbiegr8 4 years ago 2
what does like "12 hatchery/11 pool" mean? I see build orders with 12/12, 12/11, and I figured they referred to the supply but 12/11 doesn't make sense?
radiosurgery 4 years ago
WIth the 12th drone you make the expansion hatch.
Since you used on drone for the hatch....you have 11 drones....
you make a pool with the 11th drone
CaptainZissou 4 years ago
when u build a building with zerg, u have to sacrifice a drone, thus his supply went down when he built the hatchery, and then he built his spawn.
thelawenforcer001 4 years ago
As a huge fan of both of these players, i beleive that Savior did not take it as seriouly as he should have. HE went for the expansions way to fast, and didnt take his usually route, of making the enemy withfdraw, back into their base.Bisu, oon the other hand, had the momentum goin for him from the start.
P.S. anyone wanna play me msg me on Broodwar, and my user name is E]s-thierjp
thierjp 4 years ago
Thanks a ton, very cool.
snfyou 4 years ago
Really like the english part helps so much. Helped me as a zerg player to =P
asdfasdfasdf245254 4 years ago
Thank goodness for english commentary. Thanks alot VioleTAK
Dmagik88 4 years ago
thank you for this commentary.
ScottSomethingClever 5 years ago
more eng coments please :)
ooinferno 5 years ago
great commenting, really horizon-expanding
hjl0240 5 years ago
For all who are saying that these guys dont talk about the game is because they are not broadcasting it, they are analizing it. If you put your hear in the haedphones with lot of care, you will see the game as a progamer view.
BLRMalcolm 5 years ago
bisu got to savior first,there was a point when savior was in good momentum =(
Jinisinsane 5 years ago
En Taro Adun...
no...
En Taro VioleTAK!!! ^_^
MickeyToss 5 years ago
lol, nice
messitup 5 years ago
Lol, neeeh. neeehh. Neeeh means yes. There are two Korean ex-professional SC players that do all the strategy, interesting fact talk and the main guy who's not a pro agrees by saying neeeh (yes in Korean). The main guy also just says just basic gameflow things such as, he's going up, he's building two gateways, etc..
MLee1692 5 years ago
were are the sabior fpvod??
saitox41 5 years ago
VioleTAK already uploaded them. Try checking the videos on the right side.
srose 5 years ago
wow, awesome commentators, need more for terran=)
kakashipwnz 5 years ago
Bisu rox all ya sc players
thecoffinilaidin 5 years ago
Crazy awesome written Violetak, you r uber gosu sc god, and we shud worship u!
Kalfastehpro 5 years ago
omg these guys dont talk shit about the game... lol
Ichigo101 5 years ago
this is so good! I wish there were pro english commentators to all Korean league games, like paid you know ^^
iloveReach 5 years ago
savior should gone cheaper hydra + ling instead of expensive muta and with the rest get some sunks + spore at all bases... I don't see how bisu would stop a mass hydra ling attack 10 mins after the game started.
s4life 5 years ago
I dont see what you mean exactly, Bisu's scouting was perfect he knew what sAviOr was up to at all times, if he saw sAviOr changing anything at all he'd change his play of course, and I dont see how you can say he "can't stop X attack after 10min" if that was true he'd always do it 100% of the games and win them all, there's no attack that cant be stopped if responding the right way.
iloveReach 5 years ago
Bisu would've changed his build order obviously, if he didnt see the greedy 3 hatch
srose 5 years ago 2
i kinda disagree with ur explaination of Bisu.
he didnt just came out with a perfect counter for Savior
for Him to being in the final winning against variouse progamers.
means even if savior does other stuffs
it wouldnt be easy for savior.
HIL4 5 years ago
w00t.
asdfhuk 5 years ago