What has bothered me is wondering how people who claimed to love Jesus and stood singing in church every Sunday could also think it was perfectly moral to own another human being and force him to work. The kkk claim they are true christians, too. If Christ is real, why can't he teach his followers right from wrong. Some fine southern christian men even raped their female slaves on a regular basis. Is this christian behavior?
@MsDogben LOL, my parents made us work like slaves! We had chores on Saturday and couldn't go play until they were done. If we ever complained of being bored, Mom assigned us more chores. We thought of rebelling and staging an uprising, but were too afraid of the overseers -- I mean Mom and Dad -- to do that.
Don't you even fucking dare make that comparison. Don't you even dare. How many CIVILIANS died in Sherman's march? VERY few if any in factual accounts. Now. . How many died in Hiroshima alone? 90,000 to 160,000 people died. The Entire city was destroyed. Atlanta? At best 30% of it was actually burnt. Sherman's march attacked anything of military value and infrastructure. It was a precisely calculated advance that cut through the south. Hiroshima? Reckless destruction.
I remember hearing this melody without the lyrics. Although I support the Union and was glad they kicked the Confederacy's rear to kingdom come, I still question the necessity of the March to the Sea.
Those who don't understand why the South hates Sherman... it's our equivalent to Hiroshima.
Imagine... all of your land, your crops, everything you've ever owned, even if you weren't fighting for the Confederacy, getting burnt to ashes as they stole your stuff.
@TurtleShroom Umm, do you refer to the burning of Atlanta. The South likes to forget that it was their attempt to burn down their own warehouses that lit-off the great fire that leveled Atlanta. Just like they forget that it was their actions that sparked the war in "Bleeding Kansas", and fanned it to a flame at Fort Sumter in S.C.
Your prideful, arrogant, heathen ancestors (and MINE) started that awful war.
Hey, first off, let's note that I'm glad the Union won, and I'm a big Lincoln fan.
I agree with you on that and I know that the South caused Bleeding Kansas.
Although, I'll have to disagree with blaming the South for the torching of Atlanta in the March to the Sea. Sherman's Chuck Norris policy of "Total War" was clear that nothing should remain standing. Crops burnt, buildings gone, railroads uprooted. Sherman was merciless in his March, and HE, not the South, burnt Atlanta.
Actually, Sherman was only one of a number of people responsible for the burning of Atlanta which, actually, only claimed up to 30% of the city. Which, while serious, is not as great as many would have us believe.
His nothing left standing policy was aimed specifically at Georgia and south Carolina which he blamed for the entire secessionist movement. His approach in North Carolina was significantly more restrained on the grounds that they voted for secession by a narrow margin.
Necessary? Absolutely. As long as Lee fought, the South strongly believed it could win and was willing to put up a fight in spite of its obvious handicaps.
The March had several very significant consequences. It showed the South that they were extremely vulnerable. That they couldn't stop the North from doing as they pleased. that the war was hopeless. And to destroy infrastructure and supplies that were of military value. ( pt 1; continue to next post)
All the families in the areas affected wrote back to the various confederate armies, complaining about what the "Yanks" were doing. This stirred fears and concern and discontent within the confederate ranks and desertion increased. It's all to weaken resolve, fighting spirit, and the ability to fight.
C'mon everyone!!! The Civil War is OVER! We don't need to still be fighting it. We certainly need no more casualties! We are all AMERICANS!!!! Let us dicuss it, sure, but let's be more amicable!
I have ancestry from both sides - as do many, many others. Let us remember all of them - from both sides - and still remember that we are "The United States of America"!
Sherman may have been a brute but he did what he had to by saving the union. You guys should thank the us gov for this or else the south would be a craphole country
I have Sherman on my Top 10 list of US generals throughout history. He probably shortened the war by at least six months and showed Southerners that the Confederate government was illegitimate, ineffective, and unable to defend them. The rebels started the war and it was about time they started paying for it.
To Hell with Sherman and his terrorist... He committed WAR CRIMES... In the south he is still hated... he will always be hated... A true coward , instead of fightin like a real officer , he would rather rape, burn homes, kill livestock and run like a scared chicken, He avoided Forrest ... cause he knew he'd get his skinny ass killed....
@bigwhitebear1 WAR CRIMES? What about andersonville? Sherman so bad yet many reb generals asked him to watch thier families in savannah like ap hill and Hardee? you chose to hate thats all and find any excuse to hate. The very crap you blame sherman for crimes was everyday life on a plantation but that was legal so ok right? Your a hypocrite before god! Sherman did gods work so hate him too! You really do not know your own history forrest hated Hood! You praise both!!!
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@antifreetrader Andersonville? I guess Camp Douglas in Chicago and Elmira in NY was a vacation spot for confederates... you yankee ass... you weren't there ... Sherman was the worst general in the war...He was a coward that was deathly afraid of Forrest and Lee... if he did that crap today he would be shot ... what a man... ridin through the south rapin and killing animals and burning innocent home... He was a piece of shit... and I pissed on his grave in St Louis..
@bigwhitebear1 Avoid Forrest you really are a peckerwood, NEWS FLASH While Forrest was one of the most skilled officers of the war no reb army at that time could stop Sherman, the South was beat and Grant Had Lee tied up in Richmond to beat and scared to come out and all wheeler could do was Slow Sherman down. As for pissing on his grave? I would say for him to scar you that bad"like YOU were there" I would say he won agian! Get over it the war is over Dixie diaper!!!!
@antifreetrader Couldn't stop him ? thats because he ran from fighting , he would rather burn and rape and kill animals than fight ... Fuck Sherman and his hoard of dick suckin cowards.... and fuck you too All you yankees think youre so much better and smarter than everyone else , you ain't shit... yet your people freed the dumb asses and let the niggers run wild , now look at this country... its full of stupid niggers and northern hypocrites ...
@bigwhitebear1 Your comments show your ignorance. Had the south won the whole country would be like Mexico. Your so proud of a way of life very few got, they got by smiting god and would have never let you in the click. You sound to stupid to be a plantation owner or business owner so a ignorant serf is you. Hate all you want blame all you can the mirror shows the truth your one ignorant stupid sob and fu too!
You, sir, need to stop spitting upon the South with your hatred for the black man and get your head out of your rear. Black folks are here to stay, and they always will be. The best thing we can do to stop them from "running wild", as you so lowly put it, is to treat them like equal human beings and help those that run in the streets by giving them hand ups, not hand outs. Also, before you even DARE say it, not all black people are criminals or impoverished, so shut up.
That's more like it. Why blacks haven't "improved" as much as we think they should have is because how long ago did the civil rights movement end? Yeah, we still have people alive today who had dogs sicked on them, blasted by firehouses and beaten by police. Being treated as lessers is still fresh in their mind and even today they still face all kinds of discrimination. Who wants to act better than animals if no one expects them to be and treat them like animals?
Big white bear your a typical inbred bozo! Johnston a coward? He was beat and knew strategic withdraw was all he could! His army of poor peckerwoods "called by the plantation elites" were done and he knew it! Wow you got Hood to replace him and butcher em, just like he wasted one of your best general Cleborne at franklin! 6 stupid frontal assaults. you poor boot licking racist idiots make me laugh to stupid to know your own history but your proud of your opinion of fiction!
Cute. Realize this, friend, killing has never been and will never be a good or easy thing. War and conflict, in a perfect world would not exist but this is not a perfect world and we are not perfect men and women. We feel as much hate as we do love, jealousy and pride as much as piety and kindness. It is inevitable.
That said, have sympathy for the enemy but remember they are trying to kill you and yours. You either kill them and theirs or lie down and die. Accept that.
Sherman was awesome we needed 100 more of him, bunch of christ hating pompus scum aristocrats lost thier homes they got from exploiting people ??? i laugh everytime i see some inbred try to blast Sherman he stuck it right up thier ass and it was deserved. CRY CRY CRY Babies started it he ended it!
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I drove all the way to St Louis at Calvary Cemetary in Missouri City where Sherman was buried... Then I PISSED ALL OVER HIS GRAVE AND TOMBSTONE.... Fuck you Billy yank for what you did to Atlanta ....you'll always be a coward and war criminal ..
@NHSActor Sherman was a terrorist ... he'd rather rape, kill animals and burn homes than fight like a real man... He's the scum of the earth... Joe Johnston was too soft... he lost Shiloh... and Lee didn't have confidence in him anyway..
@bigwhitebear1 We were all considered yankees in the Revolution and the war of 1812. Even after that. Americans are still called "Yankees" So why don't you shut the fuck up and show some respect for a man who brought a quick end to a brutal struggle. If he hadn't it would've gone on longer. More men would've died. You're the coward.
Where did you find this? I have seen very old copies of the song and have not come across these lyrics. They seem out of place. The future tense of this verse doesn't fit with the past tense of the rest of the song, much less the last line. 'Chasing women' would not have been acceptable for any publisher to print in this era, either (couldn't be performed in mixed society, ergo loss of sales). I hope you'll forgive some skepticism as to its authenticity.
@milwaukeejt ah it wasn't part of the original tune, it was common place back then for men to make up their own verses to songs and add them in. While my uncle was civil war reenacting he happened to overhear the group a few tents over singing this and the whole camp cracked up. Just thought it was rather clever and thought i'd share it =).
our anthem is not dead just taking a well erned rest....hullo hullo we are the billy boys ;)
mooseylad 1 month ago
They stole the tune from the Scottish song up to our knees in catholic blood.
KiNGZeDDi3 4 months ago
@KiNGZeDDi3
The other way around actually. This song is from the 19th century, while the Billy Boys song is 20th century.
fearlessfred14 3 months ago
@KiNGZeDDi3 catholic blood? its fenian blood u clown bet your a yank oirish twat.....WATP OUR ANTHEM WILL BE BACK
mooseylad 2 months ago
Suck it Rebs. Suck it long and suck it hard.
CrazyOldMaurice69 4 months ago
@JLHOWARD40 HI YOU A DIXIE DIAPER?
antifreetrader 6 months ago
@JLHOWARD40 "I aint no better " LOL ...You Idiot ...plain and simple!!!! You cannot fix stupid so im done!
antifreetrader 6 months ago
Excellent version of a real patriotic song.
wlewisiii 6 months ago
What has bothered me is wondering how people who claimed to love Jesus and stood singing in church every Sunday could also think it was perfectly moral to own another human being and force him to work. The kkk claim they are true christians, too. If Christ is real, why can't he teach his followers right from wrong. Some fine southern christian men even raped their female slaves on a regular basis. Is this christian behavior?
MsDogben 6 months ago 7
@MsDogben LOL, my parents made us work like slaves! We had chores on Saturday and couldn't go play until they were done. If we ever complained of being bored, Mom assigned us more chores. We thought of rebelling and staging an uprising, but were too afraid of the overseers -- I mean Mom and Dad -- to do that.
jensmom604 4 months ago
@MsDogben= More room in Heaven for people like us. Anyway, Christ warned of hypocrisy.
vigo894 3 months ago
Five Giorgans dislike this
TheSealOfTheRose 7 months ago
We must all get along as people regardless of what color.
Thx1138d 8 months ago
Someone once said that William T. Sherman was the Chuck Norris of the 1800s.
No matter what side of the war you support, you know, deep in your heart, that it is so true.
TurtleShroom 8 months ago
I once wrote my own lyrics to the chorus.
(Those who don't understand why the South hates Sherman, it's our Hiroshima.)
"Huzzah! Huzzah!
The face of tyranny!
Huzzah! Huzzah!
Like a prisoner set free;
Yankee Doodle went to town and burnt it to the ground!
As we go marching, through Georgia!"
TurtleShroom 8 months ago
@TurtleShroom
Don't you even fucking dare make that comparison. Don't you even dare. How many CIVILIANS died in Sherman's march? VERY few if any in factual accounts. Now. . How many died in Hiroshima alone? 90,000 to 160,000 people died. The Entire city was destroyed. Atlanta? At best 30% of it was actually burnt. Sherman's march attacked anything of military value and infrastructure. It was a precisely calculated advance that cut through the south. Hiroshima? Reckless destruction.
Mahbu 7 months ago 3
I remember hearing this melody without the lyrics. Although I support the Union and was glad they kicked the Confederacy's rear to kingdom come, I still question the necessity of the March to the Sea.
Those who don't understand why the South hates Sherman... it's our equivalent to Hiroshima.
Imagine... all of your land, your crops, everything you've ever owned, even if you weren't fighting for the Confederacy, getting burnt to ashes as they stole your stuff.
TurtleShroom 8 months ago
@TurtleShroom Umm, do you refer to the burning of Atlanta. The South likes to forget that it was their attempt to burn down their own warehouses that lit-off the great fire that leveled Atlanta. Just like they forget that it was their actions that sparked the war in "Bleeding Kansas", and fanned it to a flame at Fort Sumter in S.C.
Your prideful, arrogant, heathen ancestors (and MINE) started that awful war.
God bless the brave men of the Union!
Remember, YOUR president was caught in a DRESS!
REVBia 8 months ago
@REVBia
Hey, first off, let's note that I'm glad the Union won, and I'm a big Lincoln fan.
I agree with you on that and I know that the South caused Bleeding Kansas.
Although, I'll have to disagree with blaming the South for the torching of Atlanta in the March to the Sea. Sherman's Chuck Norris policy of "Total War" was clear that nothing should remain standing. Crops burnt, buildings gone, railroads uprooted. Sherman was merciless in his March, and HE, not the South, burnt Atlanta.
TurtleShroom 8 months ago
@TurtleShroom
Actually, Sherman was only one of a number of people responsible for the burning of Atlanta which, actually, only claimed up to 30% of the city. Which, while serious, is not as great as many would have us believe.
His nothing left standing policy was aimed specifically at Georgia and south Carolina which he blamed for the entire secessionist movement. His approach in North Carolina was significantly more restrained on the grounds that they voted for secession by a narrow margin.
Mahbu 7 months ago 2
@TurtleShroom
Necessary? Absolutely. As long as Lee fought, the South strongly believed it could win and was willing to put up a fight in spite of its obvious handicaps.
The March had several very significant consequences. It showed the South that they were extremely vulnerable. That they couldn't stop the North from doing as they pleased. that the war was hopeless. And to destroy infrastructure and supplies that were of military value. ( pt 1; continue to next post)
Mahbu 7 months ago 2
@TurtleShroom pt 2
All the families in the areas affected wrote back to the various confederate armies, complaining about what the "Yanks" were doing. This stirred fears and concern and discontent within the confederate ranks and desertion increased. It's all to weaken resolve, fighting spirit, and the ability to fight.
Mahbu 7 months ago 2
C'mon everyone!!! The Civil War is OVER! We don't need to still be fighting it. We certainly need no more casualties! We are all AMERICANS!!!! Let us dicuss it, sure, but let's be more amicable!
I have ancestry from both sides - as do many, many others. Let us remember all of them - from both sides - and still remember that we are "The United States of America"!
CMSGTUSAF1 8 months ago 4
@CMSGTUSAF1
Well said!
TurtleShroom 8 months ago
Sherman may have been a brute but he did what he had to by saving the union. You guys should thank the us gov for this or else the south would be a craphole country
bpolacek89 8 months ago 3
If the South championed States rights why did they ram "The Fugitive Slave Law" through congress in 1850?
Thx1138d 8 months ago
I have Sherman on my Top 10 list of US generals throughout history. He probably shortened the war by at least six months and showed Southerners that the Confederate government was illegitimate, ineffective, and unable to defend them. The rebels started the war and it was about time they started paying for it.
IronBrig4 9 months ago 5
WATP. anyone get it lol
craigmair 10 months ago
What a voice Ernie had!
Thx1138d 11 months ago
To Hell with Sherman and his terrorist... He committed WAR CRIMES... In the south he is still hated... he will always be hated... A true coward , instead of fightin like a real officer , he would rather rape, burn homes, kill livestock and run like a scared chicken, He avoided Forrest ... cause he knew he'd get his skinny ass killed....
bigwhitebear1 1 year ago
@bigwhitebear1 WAR CRIMES? What about andersonville? Sherman so bad yet many reb generals asked him to watch thier families in savannah like ap hill and Hardee? you chose to hate thats all and find any excuse to hate. The very crap you blame sherman for crimes was everyday life on a plantation but that was legal so ok right? Your a hypocrite before god! Sherman did gods work so hate him too! You really do not know your own history forrest hated Hood! You praise both!!!
antifreetrader 1 year ago 20
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@antifreetrader Andersonville? I guess Camp Douglas in Chicago and Elmira in NY was a vacation spot for confederates... you yankee ass... you weren't there ... Sherman was the worst general in the war...He was a coward that was deathly afraid of Forrest and Lee... if he did that crap today he would be shot ... what a man... ridin through the south rapin and killing animals and burning innocent home... He was a piece of shit... and I pissed on his grave in St Louis..
bigwhitebear1 1 year ago
@bigwhitebear1 Avoid Forrest you really are a peckerwood, NEWS FLASH While Forrest was one of the most skilled officers of the war no reb army at that time could stop Sherman, the South was beat and Grant Had Lee tied up in Richmond to beat and scared to come out and all wheeler could do was Slow Sherman down. As for pissing on his grave? I would say for him to scar you that bad"like YOU were there" I would say he won agian! Get over it the war is over Dixie diaper!!!!
antifreetrader 1 year ago 22
@antifreetrader Couldn't stop him ? thats because he ran from fighting , he would rather burn and rape and kill animals than fight ... Fuck Sherman and his hoard of dick suckin cowards.... and fuck you too All you yankees think youre so much better and smarter than everyone else , you ain't shit... yet your people freed the dumb asses and let the niggers run wild , now look at this country... its full of stupid niggers and northern hypocrites ...
bigwhitebear1 1 year ago
@bigwhitebear1 right on
indianaeagle219 1 year ago
@bigwhitebear1 Your comments show your ignorance. Had the south won the whole country would be like Mexico. Your so proud of a way of life very few got, they got by smiting god and would have never let you in the click. You sound to stupid to be a plantation owner or business owner so a ignorant serf is you. Hate all you want blame all you can the mirror shows the truth your one ignorant stupid sob and fu too!
antifreetrader 1 year ago 20
@bigwhitebear1
You, sir, need to stop spitting upon the South with your hatred for the black man and get your head out of your rear. Black folks are here to stay, and they always will be. The best thing we can do to stop them from "running wild", as you so lowly put it, is to treat them like equal human beings and help those that run in the streets by giving them hand ups, not hand outs. Also, before you even DARE say it, not all black people are criminals or impoverished, so shut up.
TurtleShroom 8 months ago 2
@TurtleShroom
That's more like it. Why blacks haven't "improved" as much as we think they should have is because how long ago did the civil rights movement end? Yeah, we still have people alive today who had dogs sicked on them, blasted by firehouses and beaten by police. Being treated as lessers is still fresh in their mind and even today they still face all kinds of discrimination. Who wants to act better than animals if no one expects them to be and treat them like animals?
Mahbu 7 months ago
William T. Sherman = 19th century Chuck Norris
Kev95682 1 year ago 7
Big white bear your a typical inbred bozo! Johnston a coward? He was beat and knew strategic withdraw was all he could! His army of poor peckerwoods "called by the plantation elites" were done and he knew it! Wow you got Hood to replace him and butcher em, just like he wasted one of your best general Cleborne at franklin! 6 stupid frontal assaults. you poor boot licking racist idiots make me laugh to stupid to know your own history but your proud of your opinion of fiction!
antifreetrader 1 year ago 37
I read the slave owners refused to support the CSA war effort with their slaves. So much for southern pride!
Thx1138d 11 months ago
General Sherman = A total bad-ass.
Zeeboe 1 year ago
@Zeeboe One of the greatest mass murderers in the history of the world.
ronpaulvoter 8 months ago
@ronpaulvoter - So whenever someone in a uniform kills for something you believe in, it makes them a good murderer?
Zeeboe 8 months ago
@Zeeboe
Cute. Realize this, friend, killing has never been and will never be a good or easy thing. War and conflict, in a perfect world would not exist but this is not a perfect world and we are not perfect men and women. We feel as much hate as we do love, jealousy and pride as much as piety and kindness. It is inevitable.
That said, have sympathy for the enemy but remember they are trying to kill you and yours. You either kill them and theirs or lie down and die. Accept that.
Mahbu 7 months ago
Sherman was awesome we needed 100 more of him, bunch of christ hating pompus scum aristocrats lost thier homes they got from exploiting people ??? i laugh everytime i see some inbred try to blast Sherman he stuck it right up thier ass and it was deserved. CRY CRY CRY Babies started it he ended it!
antifreetrader 1 year ago 77
The hypocrites who professed to be Christians will owning slaves.
Thx1138d 10 months ago
:Piss on his grave because the south started a war it couldn't win?. Get over it!
Hassar100 1 year ago 17
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I drove all the way to St Louis at Calvary Cemetary in Missouri City where Sherman was buried... Then I PISSED ALL OVER HIS GRAVE AND TOMBSTONE.... Fuck you Billy yank for what you did to Atlanta ....you'll always be a coward and war criminal ..
bigwhitebear1 1 year ago
@bigwhitebear1 If Joseph Johnston bore Sherman no ill will, why do you?
NHSActor 1 year ago
@NHSActor Sherman was a terrorist ... he'd rather rape, kill animals and burn homes than fight like a real man... He's the scum of the earth... Joe Johnston was too soft... he lost Shiloh... and Lee didn't have confidence in him anyway..
bigwhitebear1 1 year ago
@bigwhitebear1 seriously hating on sherman is as much of a red flag as hating the southern poverty law center or the national organization for women
bluntedtaoism 1 year ago
@bigwhitebear1 We were all considered yankees in the Revolution and the war of 1812. Even after that. Americans are still called "Yankees" So why don't you shut the fuck up and show some respect for a man who brought a quick end to a brutal struggle. If he hadn't it would've gone on longer. More men would've died. You're the coward.
bullyboy1863 1 year ago 2
whats a darkie?
BrokenneckYgor 2 years ago
Watch out Falcons, the Yankees are comin '
BrokenneckYgor 2 years ago
If you'll notice, the second verse was omitted:
How the darkies shouted when they heard the joyful sound !
How the turkeys gobbled which our commissary found!
How the sweet potatoes even started from the ground!
While we were marching through Georgia.
It's not PC to use the term, "darkies", you know..
BenAliGtor 2 years ago
What about the last verse
"As we march through Gerogia we will burn your property liberate your cattle and we'll set your darkies free!
Then we'll chase your women from Atlanta to the Sea
While we were marching through Georgia!"
Elfman12234 2 years ago 4
@Elfman12234
Where did you find this? I have seen very old copies of the song and have not come across these lyrics. They seem out of place. The future tense of this verse doesn't fit with the past tense of the rest of the song, much less the last line. 'Chasing women' would not have been acceptable for any publisher to print in this era, either (couldn't be performed in mixed society, ergo loss of sales). I hope you'll forgive some skepticism as to its authenticity.
milwaukeejt 1 year ago
@milwaukeejt ah it wasn't part of the original tune, it was common place back then for men to make up their own verses to songs and add them in. While my uncle was civil war reenacting he happened to overhear the group a few tents over singing this and the whole camp cracked up. Just thought it was rather clever and thought i'd share it =).
Elfman12234 1 year ago
I imagine it was cut after the recording.
TashkentFox 2 years ago
Absolutely grand.
Mdebacle 3 years ago 3