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  • @jmlidea - Judas condemned himself. He was a full-grown man that knew what he was doing. It doesn't make sense to say that about a child.......

  • That God would condemn anyone even before they exist is absolute pure evil. But I have to follow his logic, so when I have kids of my own, I'm going to disown the one who eats from my plate, cast him into a pit and burn his body. Think that sounds evil? Well, God did it first!!

  • ...it means "I regret tha I have made them." Take that to mean what ever you want inregards to Judas but it definatly means "to have remorse, to regret"

  • Repent in 1611 did not mean "to change one's mind" from etymonline:

    "repent

    late 13c., "to feel regret for sins or crimes," from O.Fr. repentir (11c.), from re-, intensive prefix, + V.L. *penitire "to regret," from L. poenitire "make sorry," from poena (see penal). The distinction between regret (q.v.) and repent is made in many modern languages, but the differentiation is not present in older periods."

    When God said "for it repenteth me that I have made them"...

  • When the World surrounds you, I'll make it go away

    Paint the sky with silver lining

    I will try to save you, cover up the grey

    With silver lining

    I feel like i myself am Judas, and i have no idea what to do about it or what i believe in anymore

  • To me I can relate to Jesus because he seemed to give people second chances and forgave easily but god he seemed like a preety strict guy like condeming judas to hell

  • @blushgrl16 - God did NOT condemn Judas: Judas condemned himself by not repenting in a Godly repentance. Judas repented not of his deed, but that his deed (betrayal) condemned Jesus to the cross! He was so sure Jesus could not be condemned, for Judas knew there was no sin in Jesus.

    Jesus, however, was condemned for claiming (rightfully) that he was the son of God: this Judas could not foresee.

    "Repent and believe God" is the essence of the Gospel.

  • Our Lord Jesus Christ clearly indicates that Psalm 41:9

    "Yea, mine own familiar friend, in whom I trusted, which did eat of my bread,

    hath lifted up his heel against me." -

    was a prophetic reference to the fact that one of his friends,

    one of his disciples would betray him.

  • Jesus will forgive a sinner, but nowhere in the bible does it say he will forgive a devil, on the contrary, every devil Jesus cast IN a human........did Jesus ever say TO a devil after he cast it out, go and sin no more? or follow me? did any devil ask Jesus for forgiveness? or did THE PERSON that the devil was IN ask Jesus for help......

  • @hemet92544 - God chose "...the man Christ Jesus..." to redeem man: and He also chose a man to betray the Son of God.

    Devils/demons cannot repent because they were created perfect and without the commandments, even BEFORE God introduced Grace. Man was created AFTER the commandment and after Grace: to be guilty of sin, but to be saved in Grace!

  • how can Christ have forgiven him, calling him Friend in the garden, when Jesus said in John 6:70 that Judas was a devil? Jesus will forgive a devil?

  • Matthew 10 Jesus give ALL the 12 to cast out Devils. so if your saying Judas was saved and fell because Jesus gave him the right to cast out devils, wrong, Jesus never said a devil cant cast out another devil, he said Satan can't cast out Satan.

  • hiya Kerry.....John 6:64But there are some of you that believe not. For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were that believed not, and who should betray him. 70Jesus answered them, Have not I chosen you twelve, and one of you is a devil?......Matthew 12:26 And if Satan cast out Satan, he is divided against himself; how shall then his kingdom stand?.....Jesus said Satan cast cannot out Satan, he din't say Devils can't cast themselves out......

  • Yahweh says, anybody He gives the Truth to He calls friend>>> then if they do not repent and turn to Him and walk in righteousness IN ALL His ways, will be damned and it will be a testimony against them on Judgment Day.

  • A more pertinent question would be "Why doesn't God just wipe us all out at this very second?"  We ALL DESERVE eternal torture, thank God that He is gracious to accept His Son's substitution for those who believe in Him!

  • Isn't it very cruel though, that God would want to send ANYbody to hell- for eternal torture? What crime is so big that someone, even Judas, would deserve ETERNAL torture?

  • @dilemmix ... Man rejects God therefore they send themselves to hell technically.

  • @shannonanamon I don't really understand the 'rejecting' God thing. For example, for me to accept a god I would need evidence for one. I mean, would God want people to accept anything based on faith only? If there really is a god that is all powerful, why is it so hard for him/her to prove that he exists? God should be proud that humans think for themselves and don't blindy accept claims without evidence. So the punishment for thinking would be eternal torture in hell?

  • @dilemmix

    You don't understand. God is PERFECTION and cannot judge any other way than through that perfection. That is why God took flesh, came as Christ and died as a sacrifice so all who wished to be saved could do so. If a person rejects this then they will stand before a PREFECT God and be judged by His Perfection Under the LAW. That is why free will is so important.

  • Hey,,,What happened??? There is an entire minute cut off... :(

  • Interesting...thanks for the clarification.

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