Many people are saying that this robot isn't really improvising because it draws from patterns learned. I know all you jazz musicians would like to think that you are all artsy divine and all, but the truth is, that's the same way we humans learn music as well. To begin with, we learn patterns, and we shed, then we improv back ideas that are in essence just "patterns" of bits and pieces that we've transcribed or memorized. I often hear jazz soloists play lines that they played the night before.
Also, there are many musicians that will never reach the point of being able to TRULY improvise the whole way through a solo or piece. Not all of us are latent Wayne Shorters, D'jango Reinhardts if you will. However, I think it will be a while before they can get this thing to swing! Not to diminish the dynamic human spirit and mind, just trying to give some perspective. No need to respond, just take it for what it is. Thank You
I can see that you make a pause each time to allow the machine do his move, then you are already giving the signal to the machine to move and is not autonomous
In any kind of improvisation there is room for a call and response type of music, and it isn't a sign that the computer needs to be "led" into the chord structure.
The REAL test would be if you played a recording of an improv session a few times to it and watched to see if it repeated the same set of notes and chords over. If it has a set response for each chord progression, then it's not really improv.
...Its not that it is bad, by any means it is a technological break through, but to compare it to a song writer, or the guy who spent years on say three bars of a song to get it the way he wants it, it lacks creativity and ingenuity in respect to creation of the music itself. Its extroardinary in what it can do, but not so much in coming up with a completely original piece that relies solely from playing from the heart. Where is the connection from the musician to the notes selected?
yeah its true, artificial intelligence is all about classifying and making decisions of those classifications by repeating known patterns... but keep in mind that this is only a showcase of the advances in AI. it certainly will come up as an application of some kind but it's not like the people who developed this are trying to replace musicians and original composers with machines: that machine is not creatiing music, it's just following the musician
As a musician myself, I see this not so much as revolutionary, but a lack of soul. Midi is programmable, and all this does, is, like a computer playing chess, repeat known patterns. I'd like to see it come up with somehting like Round Midnight, and the many various takes and versions Thelonious came up with. This is almost like listing to a midi file as it doesn't have any mistakes, nuances of preasure and accentuation of notes, or freedom to color OUTSIDE the lines. Its not improvisation.
Midi is just text information on when to strike, how hard, etc. You can create premade midi sequence patterns and have the computer fire them off automatically when certain notes and tempo changes are made. I imagine that is in part how the machine plays along, knowing certain patterns and phrases and pulling random runs from a pool of patterns to accompany the keyboard the musician is playing.
This robot has, ssssoulllllllllllllllllll!
ThdeGreatestOne 4 months ago
You think that since it's a robot they would make the part like super impossibly hard....
andrewmusic95 6 months ago
@andrewmusic95 no, youd think they would make it really easy... which they did... robots aren't that advanced yet, and this is the first of its kind
ERKRAKANARB 6 days ago
Wait a second, I thought Charlie Parker already made a shit load of "Jazz Robots?" ;p
Suckafreecountry 11 months ago
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DeathRAY310 1 year ago
Many people are saying that this robot isn't really improvising because it draws from patterns learned. I know all you jazz musicians would like to think that you are all artsy divine and all, but the truth is, that's the same way we humans learn music as well. To begin with, we learn patterns, and we shed, then we improv back ideas that are in essence just "patterns" of bits and pieces that we've transcribed or memorized. I often hear jazz soloists play lines that they played the night before.
ChrisGuerre 1 year ago
Also, there are many musicians that will never reach the point of being able to TRULY improvise the whole way through a solo or piece. Not all of us are latent Wayne Shorters, D'jango Reinhardts if you will. However, I think it will be a while before they can get this thing to swing! Not to diminish the dynamic human spirit and mind, just trying to give some perspective. No need to respond, just take it for what it is. Thank You
ChrisGuerre 1 year ago
Calm down people, it's a robot. The point isn't that it's a master technician, the point is that it's a robot that's learning.
FiveAndUhSixUh 1 year ago 2
I'd like to hear it try to keep up with giant steps...
youenjoy00myself 1 year ago 2
hey, you know, what's important is the cultural experience that this is.
rukussert 1 year ago
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YA THAT WAS FUCKIN GAY... I BET THEY SPENT MILLIONS OF DOLLARS ON THAT FAGGOTY ROBOT... WHY DONT U GUYS MAKE A ROBOT THAT CAN SUCK UR DICK
dialysis 1 year ago
smart reply. Can you play jazz without a electronic crutch wasting electricity.
lekimsey 1 year ago
It can never compare to the real thing thou.
bummer846 1 year ago
Should write a bebop algorithm for it. That way it'll be able to solo with running lines. lol
mastersgta1 1 year ago
how is that even possible?
tennisproderek 1 year ago
Play rock, not jazz . Leave my music alone.
lekimsey 1 year ago
@lekimsey
Hey look, it's the guy who invented jazz.
spibbly 1 year ago
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Too bad jazz is retarded and usually ends up going nowhere. Extremely boring.
rrg019000 1 year ago
@rrg019000 The same can be said about your taste, talent and life judging from your ignorant statement..
CommandAndCommentary 1 year ago
What would happen if you put two of these robots in the same room? I'm guessing their heads would explode....
packertimm 1 year ago 3
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so that was kind of gay
lardylardbag 1 year ago
A lot of work! Excellent-- great robot improvisations!
Gotchacamera 1 year ago
Already better than Kenny G
peyham 1 year ago 18
@peyham lol
randomness1894 1 year ago
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Couldn't you use two people to play the same thing?
beaverteeth92 2 years ago
You could...but that's not the point. The point is to be able to make a robot do it too.
wingdairu 2 years ago
hahaahhahaha
Quilla302 2 years ago
Sheer brilliance. Even the philistines in Manhattan Beach think this has soul!
danielawiener 2 years ago
oh my god, skynet is real!
luckado 2 years ago 17
I can see that you make a pause each time to allow the machine do his move, then you are already giving the signal to the machine to move and is not autonomous
animes25 2 years ago
In any kind of improvisation there is room for a call and response type of music, and it isn't a sign that the computer needs to be "led" into the chord structure.
The REAL test would be if you played a recording of an improv session a few times to it and watched to see if it repeated the same set of notes and chords over. If it has a set response for each chord progression, then it's not really improv.
SaiyanPhoenix451 2 years ago 3
Very cool!
jnickence 2 years ago
...Its not that it is bad, by any means it is a technological break through, but to compare it to a song writer, or the guy who spent years on say three bars of a song to get it the way he wants it, it lacks creativity and ingenuity in respect to creation of the music itself. Its extroardinary in what it can do, but not so much in coming up with a completely original piece that relies solely from playing from the heart. Where is the connection from the musician to the notes selected?
xxdigipiratexx 2 years ago
yeah its true, artificial intelligence is all about classifying and making decisions of those classifications by repeating known patterns... but keep in mind that this is only a showcase of the advances in AI. it certainly will come up as an application of some kind but it's not like the people who developed this are trying to replace musicians and original composers with machines: that machine is not creatiing music, it's just following the musician
jkgambz 2 years ago
As a musician myself, I see this not so much as revolutionary, but a lack of soul. Midi is programmable, and all this does, is, like a computer playing chess, repeat known patterns. I'd like to see it come up with somehting like Round Midnight, and the many various takes and versions Thelonious came up with. This is almost like listing to a midi file as it doesn't have any mistakes, nuances of preasure and accentuation of notes, or freedom to color OUTSIDE the lines. Its not improvisation.
xxdigipiratexx 2 years ago
I don't think MIDI does this...
eliotvb 2 years ago
Midi is just text information on when to strike, how hard, etc. You can create premade midi sequence patterns and have the computer fire them off automatically when certain notes and tempo changes are made. I imagine that is in part how the machine plays along, knowing certain patterns and phrases and pulling random runs from a pool of patterns to accompany the keyboard the musician is playing.
xxdigipiratexx 2 years ago
I'd love to jam with this super-cool robot!
alcomm777 2 years ago
Good concept, I don't see this competing with live jazz musicians for a bit longer though. It worked, but clearly has its flaws. Phew! =)
Xeno8345 2 years ago 2
Who says its intention is to compete?
soundboy89 2 years ago 4
It competes, but the humans still have the trophy, for now...
nobbynobbs 2 years ago
good
maizesoft 2 years ago