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  • Like in many stations hear in São Paulo (Sé, Brás, Corinthians Itaquera, Palmeiras Barra Funda...)

  • @BrunoMontezum Do you have film of these stations on YouTube? I would like to see them, and feel sure that other people would be interested as well.

    Simon

  • @citytransportinfo  We got the same thing in the subway of Toulouse, France.

  • Is it one platform for boarding and the other for getting off, or is it just a free for all?

  • sad

  • Where do Jublilee Trains stop on?

  • @TrainSounds Hi there, I'm not sure if I understand your question.

    Jubilee Line trains use the 'low level' platforms whilst Central Line trains use the 'high level' platforms

  • We have this also at Rotterdam Central station, and, there you need to mind the gap too :P

  • where is it?

  • Mind the gap.

  • that wasn't a 321 it was a 315

  • @mrwacca1 god damn trainspotter.

  • Is there actually a reason for this? Stratford doesn't exactly seem like the busiest of stations. Unless this is in preparation for the Olympics

  • @dctim well there is better access to several station exits and the low level lines (Jubilee + DLR Stratford Intl branch) from the new platform 3a.

    But, I think that the most important motivating factor was (as you suggested) the Olympic Games and handling large crowds of people going home who must first travel towards Central London - and then interchange with other services.

  • Call Of Duty must have stole this guys idea :D

  • wow that's really cool

  • Why can't they close at the same time?

  • @mryoheylol I've seen that happen... sometimes.

    Simon

  • @mryoheylol Because the driver has to check either side of the train for people stuck in the doors. He can't do this at the same time on both sides.

  • @MrTomchristopher But he doesn't check them, that's not what he does.

  • Why the doors can't be closed simultaneously? The train does not allow it?

  • @CZRichie it's 2 dangerous

  • @CZRichie they don't know about multi thread programming LOL

  • @CZRichie The doors don't close simultaneously for safety reasons

  • @CZRichie I've seen that happen... sometimes.

    Simon

  • @CZRichie a power issue, too much electricity at once

  • This also happens on the Eastbound District Line at Barking. Handy if you are in a rush from c2c to get on the Overground to Gospel Oak because you can run through the District Line train :).

  • If That Happened At Every Station, I Worked Out That It Probably Would Add An Extra 2 Minutes On To Each Journey From Terminus To Terminus

  • @daleksec53 geez, services have slowed enough already - what with the elimination of guards and on some lines lower track speeds and de-rated trains. But this would be useful at stations such as Bank where passengers could alight on one side and board from the other. At busy times splitting the passenger flows in this way should reduce stop dwell times.

  • Not too many takers, then!

  • @Damoleary you should see what its like in the morning rush hour!

    Passengers in the train have to contend with passengers boarding from both sides - trying to squeeze in.

  • @citytransportinfo I can imagine. It's bad enough with only one set of doors opening.

  • Also at Uxbridge but they don't

  • @trevcab ditto Cockfosters - which has a station of a similar style, with three tracks and four platforms, one of which is not actually used.

    Simon

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  • central line trains are so clean and good looking not like jublie or barkerloo lines

  • @imrankhan2k9 i think 96 ts paintwork looks better than 92 ts. Though i like the big windows of 92 ts. I don't use the 92ts much but the 96 ts interior is in really good condition and is clean, i use the 1996ts at least few times every week and just used it twice today.

  • At 0:38, that is not a 321, it's a 317/6.

  • @37427 Actually its a 315 not a 321 or 317/6, the 315 units are the trains used on the line that runs all stations between Shenfield and Liverpool Street

  • Is there a reason why both sets cant close at the same time?

  • @fkfj16 sorry dont know - all I can think of is that the driver may need to be watching them close

  • @citytransportinfo Opening the doors on both sides is cool thanx for posting this

  • @citytransportinfo Wast that a class 315 departing next to the 1992TS

  • @citytransportinfo I dont live in London, but I think after one door closes the driver has to fing the button for the other door

  • @citytransportinfo

    A very good answer to a very stupid question.

  • @citytransportinfo But it's not the driver that pays attention, it uses pressure, motion and IR sensors to make sure nobody is stuck.

  • @fkfj16 Because I imagine that if they close together they would have to open together aswell

  • they can do exactly this at the centre platforms at white city and loughton but they dont! why!

  • @TheCatapultTV Nor at Golders Green (I'm not sure about Arnos Grove). The reason is probably related to the platforms being used for terminating trains and the doors only opening on one side to let people out onto the correct platform for an onward train and then in from the correct platform for trains tarvelling in the opposite direction.

    Simon

  • @citytransportinfo just realised: they dont do it at uxbridge and cockfosters (they do at morden). not sure why.

  • @citytransportinfo Thats cool 2 see the doors open both sides

  • @TheCatapultTV Citytransportinfos answer is correct. At Loughton & White City one platform is used the Terminating a letting passengers off (the direction of entry island platform) and this allows passengers to continue their journey. The other platform is used for passengers getting on the train (the direction of departure island platform) and this allows one island platform to be used for passengers heading in that direction

  • yea its a class 317

  • "Please allow passengers off the train first"... but the train, and the platform look deserted! I can see the point doing that announcement at rush hour or when the train's busy, but not now...

  • An easy way to get between platforms...

  • @TheWebsterD I wish those buttons could be used to open the doors - especially on cold days at 'open air' stations.

    As far as I am aware the buttons have no uses today - I've never heard of that 15 second delay request and would be surprised if it was actually so.

  • @citytransportinfo

    You're right it doesn't send a 15 second delay in fact nothing actually happens as the buttons have been turned off for years now! They do actually still work if the driver turns them on, though obviously they are off due to safety reasons. I used the buttons when the trains first came into service so I can tell u they do work but this was way back in the mid 90's before the severe overcrowding of today! :P The D stock used to have working open buttons as well once.

  • @Alstom1995 pity they cant switch them back on during off peak (and therefore quieter) periods to avoid that nasty winter chill or splash of rain in an empty carriage in the open sections at the Eastern (stratford to Hainault/Woodford/Epping) and Western (White City to Ealing Broadway/West Ruislip) ends of the Central Line

  • @grahamf19 Yeah well so long as people carry on being stupid and throwing themselves into doors I doubt that'll happen hah! But apparently the new S stock trains are actually designed to overcome this problem by reopening just enough for the person to pull themself free of the doors and then it will close and depart. if this works there shouldn't be anymore passengers holding up the service by Kamikaze diving!

  • Why do they have to close the doors seperately?

  • @NZSupermathu For safety - the train driver must watch to ensure that no-one is trapped in the doors.

  • I do believe thats a pair of 317s behind the 1992 stock there :)

  • @class313 Yes, the two units are in different liveries and the entire train is travelling through platform 5 (towards Liverpool Street Station) without stopping.

  • @citytransportinfo its just that in the description you've put two class 321s passing lol.

  • @citytransportinfo it defo does look like Class 317s as the end by look of it has a doorway on it, and is not sloped like the 321 class

  • Its A Bit Like The DLR At Canary Wharf =] - Saves Time Crossing Platforms Too! lol.

  • They shut the doors early on Platform 3a during peak from what I've seen everyday, otherwise they shut the doors at the normal time for the older Platform 3.

  • @Arriva2010 only westbound - there is no space to do this for eastbound trains.

    Simon

  • @phimmai1 no - passengers board and alight from both sides.

    On the older platform there is cross platform interchange with a different rail service, whilst the new platform is better for changing trains with the Jubilee Line and Docklands Light Railway.

    BUT...

    It may be that during the 2012 Olympic Games some type of passenger flow control is used. I've heard this suggested as an idea.

    Simon

  • I remember when the doors opened on both sides at the 59th street station in Manhattan. I'm pretty sure the doors closed at different times like this video, as the conductor had to do one side, and then the other side.

  • @JeffOrnstein01 Whilst it might be possible to close doors on both sides at the same time there is a greater safety risk in case someone becomes trapped in the doors but is not seen. So they have to be done separately.

    Simon

  • just similar to trains at Airport Station platform 1&3 in HK

  • In Munich they can close the doors at the same time. Maybe if they would fit some screens on the platform so that the driver can watch it at the same time, if the screens in the cab are not enough.

  • they do this at White City some times

  • So this is like another part to the station I take it? Ill see it on the 19th October :)

  • Ascot station used to be like this, well still is, but they now only allow one set of doors to open said it was too much hassel, time will tell on this one eh!

  • cool!

  • Cant they close both sides at once?, the driver has 2 screens in the cab i think. Cant he just press two buttons at the same time?

  • @bronzeonion

    Thats an interesting question - I suspect not, as the driver must watch the process to ensure that it is completed safely.

    Simon

  • nice :)

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