the name of the rose part 5

[Uriahsgrandma]

I feel sorry for that young girl. As you can see, religion is worthless. Especially.... To our soul. Now do not misconstrue. I'm am fully persuaded! Relationship with Jesus is my allegiance!

[Humaneering]

top acting brill all the best from RobotRuss

[MrSexmachine759]

at the ending of this part, there's a sex scene, does it?

[SilenceIKissYou]

"My price is some information" -- Connery did something like that in a Bond flick once too! It was "Thunderball" and some nurse at a health spa where 007 was recuperating didn't want him to rat on her about something. "My silence could have a price," he said. His price, of course, was for her to sleep with him!

[focusofdarkness]

kurwa najlepszą scene wycieli :/

[Useless2112]

'The Name of the Rose' is merely a blip on an otherwise uninterrupted downward trajectory.

[cinna71]

cristian slater mentiond years ago that he did lose his virginity in this movie, iam not sure what he would say now.

[tattisalles1989]

@cinna71

How Many years Slater had when this movie was done?

[cinna71]

@tattisalles1989 he was 17 or 16 turning 17 but i think its safe to say 17

[siliyemoodislam]

@tattisalles1989 Old enough to find the right hole in the dark!

[KryHoo]

a magnifying magnificent doubled glass glasses, epic scene when William try to look at other monks through theese glasses

[habsmeister09]

There was a second book of Aristotle's Poeticts . It was probably devoted to Comedy. The tragedy was that the Church did not want it copied because it comprehend the past. Fools. The burning of the Library of Alexandria set back knowledge by 1,000 years. We are stuck with what the Church chose to let us read.

[Shanniquitie]

pseudohistory. the supposed 'comedy' book was lost long before, by the arabs. and everything the church got, it got through arabic translation. do some reading.

[Piniczylin]

@Shanniquitie What is this comedy book? Is it called a comedy book? Is it like Dekameron or Gargantua and Pandegruel? I am quite ingnorant on this topic but will be happy if someone tells me more about it.

[Shanniquitie]

it's a book supposedly written by Aristotle, about comedy, but now lost to us.

[representing26]

ok the naarator and the boy- adso arent the same voice. wth. its confusing me.

[RuudJH]

It's not that difficult to understand, really

[Aberjan]

@representing26 the narrator is adso when he's old. the voice changes over the years.

[badsign1980]

salvatore!!! pah pah... perfect just perfect, gathers the energy from italian films and the rudness and perfection of anglo saxon actors

[papwalker99]

@badsign1980 salvatore is Ron Perlman, an American actor - hellboy et al

[DANEo2o2]

i always did like how the actor played brother remigio in the film. his facial expressions signify a past longing to be forgotten yet yearning to surface once more:)

[wojciechmro]

He died while filming the movie, liver disease...

[ashur24]

perfect description.

That actor is excellent. I think he is austrian.

[bobbyjans]

@DANEo2o2 apparently he, Helmut Qualtinger died 5 days after the release of this movie.

[rumpo289]

what happens in part 6?

[Drwhofan1971]

Adso makes love to the peasant girl he saw earlier ("the Rose"), who he pities and wants to save.

[Drwhofan1971]

ps. William deduces what happened and Adso asks his mentor about love. We get the last bit of the discussion in part 7 when William (after saying how foul women must be! ) concludes life would be dull without love.

[cram720]

the girl is not the Rose, it is rather Aristotle's comedy on laughter, which is destroyed by the fire in the library. In the book, one of the last sentences is "Stat rosa pristina nomine, nomina nuda tenemus", which means yesterday's rose lasts in its name, we embrace empty names today. So despite the concept and essence of the library enlightening knowledge will remain forever it will only exist as an idea as it has been destroyed

[DinaxD]

I think it's the rose. I refer to Shapespeare's Romeo & Juliette.. ''A rose by any name would smell as sweet'' Perhaps he didn't need to know her name? he just knew what she was to him and that was enough and all.

[SOAPSHOWERmusic]

i have just visited the castle on last friday. it was so impressing. also didnt watched the film untill they told about it.. :(

[flexibartr]

@cram720 The girl is also the rose in another respect, for there are references to the thinking and the works of J. L. Borges. And in these writings clearly the roses are books and girls at the same time. Men from the endless planes of the argentinian outback ("pampa") are fighting with knifes because of honour and girls.

[paula4u213]

where is part 6???

[kathrcs]

rejected because of the scene between christian slater and valentina vargas. i'll edit it and post it later.

[Drwhofan1971]

lol...ppl may not know the scene. Vargas is topless and it is - well - soft pornish in nature. (I always wondered how they did that scene!)

[joshisaac]

I think it's also because Christian Slater was under age then..

[lollipopfop]

Naw. Hes of age. Hes of age even in Heathers.

[kathrcs]

he was underage when he did this film.

[Jorben84]

Underage? He was 17!

[kathrcs]

according to imdb, he was 15.

[Jorben84]

Ok, sorry. I just looked at the release date of the film. Then I agree he was underage. But I doubt that's the reason that scene was removed.

[kathrcs]

i know! such a pity too, it's a beautiful scene.

[jamaicanlager]

Shut up, you baboonish fop of a jungle bunny.

[I4gotmyMANTRA]

17 is underage.

[Jorben84]

For what?

[I4gotmyMANTRA]

the age of consent, I think. /:

[I4gotmyMANTRA]

heathers he was 19, he was 17 when he did this. think. (:

[jimmykicker7775]

I rented the unedtied version from the local movie joint and in that version, Im pretty sure they weren't "acting" when they made that scene. Its very, very brief, but it looks like he's actually "sliding into home plate" so to speak. If he was underage, that would be a problem- either way it is very, very intense, and to me, that intensity is part of the beauty. She represents uninhibited human passion while Adso is trying to achieve a sort of "greater Godliness" through the monastical way.

[kathrcs]

i does look real. but if you google it, there are snapshots of this scene wherein you can see that adso is moving but there's a distance between him and the girl.

[jimmykicker7775]

well darn. I just looked and you're right. But if it was real, Slater is one lucky dude- That actress is pretty darned easy on the eyes.

[fgbaalls]

I read somewhere that the director did not tell Christian Slater what Valentina Vargas would do, therefore it was a more authentic scene

[Myrnaloy18]

J.J. Annaud the french director said one day that the scene was widely improvised. Slater was shy and Annaud didn't tell him exactly what to do and what the girl was going to do, so you can see in his eyes his "surprise". Annaud let the camera turn in order to have a "true" scene, and to make the actors nearly feel to be alone. In the interview (in french) he said Slater was very "touched" during the scene : )

[Myrnaloy18]

J.J. Annaud the french director said one day that the scene was widely improvised. Slater was shy and Annaud didn't tell him exactly what to do and what the girl was going to do, so you can see in his eyes his "surprise". Annaud let the camera turn in order to have a "true" scene, and to make the actors nearly feel to be alone. In the interview (in french) he said Slater was very "touched" during the scene : )

[kathrcs]

part 6 was removed for "violating yt community guidelines," so i'll have to edit it. will post it later.

[vojtasjedyny]

Pure hipocrisy I must say...

[SVPman]

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