In some restaurants or bars in japan it says Philipinos are not welcome or Koreans are not welcome but other foreigners are welcome I saw that a few times when I was in japan.
@BlackHayateTheThird You should read 'Tokyo Vice' by Jake Adelstein. Maybe half of the foreign women recruited from overseas are promised thousands of dollars a month for working on their backs for a couple hours a day, or just being hostesses... Once they arrive, the situation is much different, with alot of them finding themselves in a slave-like situation. Make no mistake. Most of these women are performing sexual acts on a daily basis. Its rare to find a hostess that only talks.
@BeerInAWineGlass just wanted to quickly say that in fact *most* hostesses "only" talk. Though the story is different if you are purely talking about foreign hostess clubs.
@StraightUpSmile generally foreigners have a bad reputation of getting too drunk and not understanding stuff, and not following the social norms of how to behave. They are also afraid that (even if you speak great Japanese o0) you wont understand the payment systems and so on, and will cause problems when you get your bill or stuff like that.
@TokyoZeplin seriously? haha weird 0.0 Btw love ur videos, makes u understand howTokyo works socially, yeah it always seems so perfect there from the outside like you said haha. Wish I could live there too lol : ). Btw I'm from Norway haha! So funny to hear you talk about Denmark sometimes : p
@mrjules2008 because it's secretly turning you on, and you're afraid that because of that you're gay? Don't worry man, I have that effect on everybody.
I feel informed, thanks, and this might be late and all, but honestly, sorry for your loss, shit like that is never easy, and I'm hopping that today and in your future you will be filled with happiness,,,, ja ne.
did you ever hear about the difference between hostess club alias kyabakura and the hostess strip clubs in roppongi where all foreigners without money might end up?maybe you should make a video about that too because roppongi is ,,the one way ticket" only entrance to prostitution in japan but then no exit anymore!
I think it varies on where you live; Tokyo is used to a variety of foreigners so they are much more open to welcoming them in Host/Hostess clubs. If you go into other areas of Japan you are far more likely to be asked to leave at the entrance.
I'm going to have to support RyuShiKan. I had no problem getting into a hostess club as a foreigner. I will say, having also dated hostesses, foreign and Japanese, that exchanging contact info is routine, BUT it's within a limited scope. Experienced hostess have separate personal and business phones, including sometimes keitai dedicated to solitary clients.
I'm a gaijin, I have been in them as well as many of my gaijin friends.
You said you are expected to exchange contact info. That's not correct and I pointed it out. Your video is titled "the truth about hostess bars" but in actual fact it is just your opinion and you make several blanket statements like the ones I mentioned and try to pass them off as fact.
@RyuShiKan If you get into Japanese hostess clubs (aka, no foreign hostesses) with no Japanese people with you, then count yourself lucky. Hey, don't take my word for it, go search on google for it. Pretty much everywhere you read it will state that they are generally closed off to foreigners.
You say exchanging contact info isn't correct... maybe they just didn't exchange it with you? As I said, I have dated hostesses, so I know it's quite the norm. You can see some documentaries on it too.
@TokyoZeplin - search it on google?! are you fucking kidding me? Watch your own video again....You said they "expect you to exchange contact info".... I said that it is not expected. Well sorry to say but given your general appearance I can see why they don't let you in hostess clubs. No offense but you don't look like the type of customer they generally go for. I have been in enough hostess clubs to say it's not as hard as you make it sound.
@RyuShiKan Yes, Google, you know, the internet, where people share knowledge and experience? But at this point, I don't really see this going anywhere. Whenever I bring up anything on this, you simply say "no its not". In the end, none of us can "prove" either of our opinions, so we won't get anywhere. All I can say is what I experience, based on knowing quite a few hostess girls, and dating two full-time hostesses.
@TokyoZeplin yes I know GOOGLE it was a search engine invented by as you call us "stupid fucking Americans". So that's your source for credible information?!?!? Oh that's right everything on the web is true and based on fact. *sigh*
@RyuShiKan well yes, this is my channel after all. If you want to decide what goes, jump back to your own channel! But yes, I would feel bad for your "Oxford educated" kids, if you don't understand how to search for valid information on the internet.
@TokyoZeplin - Again you can't understand a simple post. Never have I said I didn't know how to do a google search, I said I don't rely on google for all my facts. If you're going to try and quote me do it accurately. But then getting your facts straight doesn't seem to be your forte does it.
@RyuShiKan Dude come on, hitting the "Reply" button isn't hard, and would really make this conversation a lot more fluent to read...
"I have pointed out enough of your inaccurate points to support my opinion" Uh... but when I argue against those points, you just ignore it? If I said "Godzilla is in Tokyo every Friday afternoon", that doesn't make it correct, that just makes it something I say. You need to actually be able to argue for, and back up, your points when discussing.
Your back peddling now trying to turn your over generalizations into more specifics. Your the typical foreigner that has been here a short wile and thinks he has it all figured out. I have seen your type all too often in Japan. I've been here since you were in diapers and probably been to more of the places you are commenting on than I care to remember.
@RyuShiKan so... instead of being able to refute points, you resort to slander. Yes, you are quite obviously a solid source of information... Nonetheless, I'm all for allowing people being critical and having different views, but do know that if you turn this into mud throwing instead, I'll just block you. Not a threat, just a heads up, since that's where you're going right now.
@RyuShiKan by all means! But I want to correct you in saying that no, foreigners can usually not get into hostess clubs, at least not the Japanese ones, unless they A: bring a Japanese friend, B: speak perfect Japanese and should be prepared to maybe pay a bit more. Don't mix up hostess clubs with girl bars or whatever they're called.
Better do the rest of the replies to your actual posts.
@RyuShiKan Well, firstly, whether a job is crap or not doesn't necessarily depend on how much money you make. And second, yes, some make a crapload of money. The girl I dated who was a a hostess in Ginza made 800.000yen a month. The one I dated from Roppongi had trouble paying her rent, and made around 200.000yen a month, and worked 60 hours a week.
@RyuShiKan of course your not nescesarily expected to exchange contact info with >every< single customer, but exchanging contact info is very much part of the job. Seeing as I've dated two hostesses (one from a sleazy place in Roppongi, and one from a high class place in Ginza), I know. They get called up by customers alllll the freakin' time.
Inrteresting subject. But PLEASE, rehearse before you post. You do not have the gift of speaking spontaneously. Your stopping-and-starting "humm" and "hmmm" delivery is discontinuous and just impossible to concentrate on. You come off sounding like a person who has nothing of interest to say.
@vokills420 not at all the same. On a different random note, it's not more than a few months ago that the first hooters opened in Japan. Actually one of my friends girlfriend works there.
Well i think as you said many opinions are about this topic, but i have a question about host clubs i mean if someone how works there is like the same as becoming part of a mafia that you cant stop working in it?
Well just because it is another country doesn't make it acceptable that the inhabitants of that country endict all outsiders on the actions of a few like Ishihara who sees all foreigners as either a threat or barbarians just because of couple of sailors bullied him on a train when he was a teenager. I speak Japanese very well also, but there have been times where I have been turned away despite my cordial attitude and Japanese ability. Awareness is a catalyst to change, imo.
I was accepted into a cabaret club a couple of weeks ago and was treated like a king by the staff and the girl they set me up with. I tried going because it was payday and wanted to see if I could actually get in. I'm guessing the economy is so bad now that they'll take chances on gaijin now.
@reivenlocke Huh, well I guess there's a first for everything! When I went to one (a bit of "actually see whats going on if I should talk about it") my Japanese friend actually had to ask around for one just for where I could get in with him :S
Believe you me, I was totally shocked. Doubly so considering that while hostess clubs run a healthy success percentage rate, the cabaret clubs are near impossible for a gaijin to get in.
@reivenlocke Meh, cabaret clubs and hostess clubs... same thing really. My ex, a hostess, kept insisting that they were different, but from all I see, it's the same thing, just one is classy looking, and the other is clubby looking :S
But the small city might explain it a bit more. Then again, I would also have thought they would be more open to foreigners in Tokyo since there are more of them :S
But yeah, I'll get my video up at some point about my visit to the hostess club.
The cabaret clubs are definitely more sexually oriented and reminded me more of a pseudo stripclub. The girl at my table sat down and immediately put her legs across my lap and during the R&B songs, they turned off the lights and she gave me a lapdance. The people in the other booths were getting similar treatment, I'm sure.
@reivenlocke Well sure, but is that really that different from a hostess club? A friend of mine knows a girl working in Ginza in a hostess club as a "bunny girl". She is basically a waitress there, and walks around in a skimpy bunny suit with bunny ears. And that's in Ginza :S So as I said, there is a bit of a mood change between the two, but I just don't really see it that huge that you'd call it two different things :S
@reivenlocke in my mind, it's a bit like saying "no no, this isn't a strip club, because the girls keep this tiny thong on, and we also play different music" :S I mean sure, it's a tiny bit different... but it's still a strip club :S
The vibe I always got from hostess clubs was that they are there to charm the pants off of you (not literally) and to keep up at least a semblance of civility. The cabaret club I went to was immediately touchy feely to make you feel good as a man vicerally and to try to make you stay in order to drain your wallet....like a strip club would.
This is a really good issue to bring up. This is kind of informing people around the world about some of the dark underbelly of what they think is just a peachy rosy society made of kimonos and pikachu's. I was wondering if you might discuss a little about Japan's homeless population and the part of society that lives at Manga cafes and the like. I found a lot of them to be really terrific people, though I learned they do not easily accept charity. I think, you'd bring good light to that!
One other point I'd like to make, the bars that do turn away foreigners have good reason. A lot of foreigners in the past have gone into a place like that and acted like total ass clowns. I have no problem with bars asking us not to enter.
@reivenlocke Crucified? Sorry, I don't see not being able to go into a bar full of women that you have absolutely no chance of nailing a crucifixion. If anything it's a blessing.
@reivenlocke 20 for me. You've been here long enough then to know exactly how out of control some people get into. If you had your own business you wouldn't let them in either. 1 bad apple spoils the bunch. Thats a fact of life.
Sorry, but if I were back in the States, I would never bar non-Americans from my bar because a Japanese guy tried to pinch my barmaid on the rear. Not only would it be illegal there, but because I would never villify the rest of the world for a couple of people. You get yaks and drunken ojisans in their 60s trying to relive their 20s doing far worse than a western tourist grabbing rear. I admit the American sailors are a problem, but I'd be wary of the sailors, not all gaijin
@reivenlocke Well there ya go, if you were back in the States. Another thing people need to remember is that we are not back in the States, yes, I'm American too. I agree 100% that there are drunk Japanese business men that cause just as much trouble, but, that's the way these people do things. No way on this earth that we are going to change that by getting uppity about it. I've been in hostess bars before, matter of fact, I've never been turned away from any place I've been to.
@reivenlocke continued: But I speak the language and I don't act like a jerk. Your attitude will get you a long way in this country. I suspect the ones that get turned away are on the radar from the get go.
It's not about "getting uppity". Rather, it's about changing the mindset of thinking about foreigners as a collective to thinking about them on a "case by case" basis.
@reivenlocke I agree with you 100%, but you have to admit that there are a lot of people that, if turned away, would act like an idiot and solidify the bar owners feelings on the topic. To change the mindset these people need to meet people that don't act like that. Again, if you've been here 13 years then you've probably seen, on more than one occasion, foreigners getting out of hand. You have to give respect to get it.
But I'm quite sure that Japanese get out of hand at a rate far greater than foreigners, but it's just that the foreigners stand out. It's amazing how a cheeky or borderline bipolar ojisan can be considered a local fixture at a hostess club while they'll put up the barricades for all gaijin if one comes in who does something that is even slightly disapproving.
It's true you have to give respect to get it, but in many cases you aren't given a chance or they don't care.
@WarmothStrat That's not actually an answer, and even if it was, it doesn't hold water. Firstly, whether I try to change something or not, does not excuse the action that I wish to change. As reivenlocke put it, I should not be blamed for the fault of others. That's like saying "I hate rape" "Meh, if you hate it, just go change it." Well sure, but rape is still bad.
And even if it did hold water, the fact that your not allowed in would make it impossible to change the attitudes of the bar owners
You have half the facts straight and the other 3 quarters sound like you're talking out your ass. First, not all hostess bars turn away foreigners. The ones that don't turn us away outnumber the ones that do. Especially if you speak the language. Second, Japanese people won't talk about their shitty job to a stranger. Who in their right mind would? Third, if you're going to smoke, learn to inhale.
It's a job folks.... J-h...O-h.. B-h....!! If it was meant to be fun it would be called a hobby, and people would do it for free!! I hate being a cashier and smiling at dumb, lazy, arrogant people who think that respect is JUST another word for customer service when it's a virtue that should be exercised from both sides ALL the time. Okay, I feel better now. Thank you for clearing that issue up about Hosting!
So maybe you're a little egotistical, Japanese have layers of truth. Maybe you got half the truth from your host club girl but maybe you didnt get the whole truth.
@Silvertrine If you knew how the Japanese "layers of truth", as you call them, works, you would realize that I actually only got half the truth, it would mean it's way worse than I'm saying?
Or am I missing something? Your response is somewhat mystical.
@TokyoZeplin Not to mention they're alchool problems who lead them to the usual effects of it : depression. I feel pitty for people who are forced since young age into this underworld. I pray to god everyday to forgive us all humans for being sometimes pushed by irrational behaviours due to problems related to our pasts or brain problems. I'm studying psychology and Japan is an intresting place to try solving the depression problems. Their problem is they don't talk and I know you mentioned it.
On top of that, Japanese medicine doesn't recognize things such as clinical depression and schizophrenia as disorders, much less approve of the medicines used to treat them. This is why you see so many people talking to themselves on the street and on the subway and why Japan finds themselves in the 5 spot for suicides per capita.
That sounds so depressing, the thing that Jap keep all the negative things bottle up inside. I’ve heard that they are very afraid of failure, so it might be a reason why they avoid bad topics while in a conversation. After 65 years since the WWII, the Jap government still can’t accept the fact that their army commit so many war crimes.
you should check out this documentary if you haven't already: The Great Happiness Space - Tale of an Osaka Love Thief ....about host clubs - how it's a tough job - similar to what you describe in your vid
@LobsterPunk What? I read up on it in this book about Hong Kong. It talked about the culture of the Place. They have Hostess clubs there where after the natives have gone to sleep, people (mostly foreigners who obliviously think the hostesses are coming on to them) get chating and pursaude the person to buy drinks. It's the same princibal to what this guy was talking about in the vid.
Why the hell are you getting agitated at a stupid little thing like that?
@LobsterPunk I mean theres nothing sexual about it or anything, Just some people luring dumb forigners to buy drinks. Anyway, this is what I read and It may not be true anyway, probily bullshit for all I know, can't say because I don't live in the place.
There is a documentary called "Tokyo Girls", talks about the same subject. You can get sex if the person wants to earn extra money and wants gifts like fur coats, gold- watches, etc.
Also sorry about the lost of your female friend. Hope you are doing well. Take care.
Liking the videos. I travelled in Japan for a bit whilst studying in China. There was a lot I didn't understand about Japan and Japanese culture. Its very interesting.
@kinglynx I dont know about hosts, but at least foreign hostesses are not allowed (they do it anyway though, but your not allowed it without a permanent residence visa), so I would assume foreign hosts arent allowed. But again, I know some who have done it. However, the host jobs are extremely few and far between, most foreigners go for butler café's instead.
@TokyoZeplin i see... how do u get a permanent residence visa?... and whats a butler cafe... also i jus found this channel and i watched the videos about your late fiancee, im sorry to hear it bro, my condolences man
@kinglynx all of that are big topics in and of themselves, I suggest you do some google searching. But a heads up, that you wont be getting a permanent residence visa any time soon, since you'll have to have been in the country for a minimum of 7 years.
@ITsHardstyle I honestly believe that . There is a video about "Tokyo Girls", in Japan. It goes over the same subject. And includes extra's that came be brought from a girl working a hostes job with gifts and money. Of course all this is done after the meeting.
i´ve been to some countries so far and hostess clubs do exist in many places, i think u dont grasp the concept, the people going there are well aware that this is just fake. those clubs are selling dreams, a pleasent time where u can forgett about all the shit happening around u. not more not less
i'm brazillian, and when you tell anyone here that there is a place in japan where you pay people to talk to you, your interlocutor will probably laugh most of the time, at least when he trust you. Japanese society is really interesting and delightful in the visual and esthetical point of view. I'm kinda afraid of what i can discover about the japanese society under stylish clothes and funnny pop songs. Its a pity, but well, any society got its sores.
my wife used to be a hostess in roppongi and she used to make 200 to 300 hundred a day just talking but she says the system there is really stressful and is not as easy as it seems, she told me that you can pay for sex and she got offered 10 grand for sex which she took cuz she felt sorry for the poor guy, but i think most of these girls will have sex as long as the price is right.
i don't understand the issue here. it's a job. if they don't want to demean themselves, then they should quit and get a job in which they don't have to. it's a matter of choice, is it not? it's not like they're in shackles.
@iDislikeNames Well from what I've seen the USA has hookers and a lot of other countries have the same thing. Being a hostess actually seems better then working off the street... :P
wow man, your videos are sobering, telling the dark truth, probably bursting some peoples shiny bubbles and others probly refuse to listen. You make a lot of good points.
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The girls want to be hostesses. They chose the job. I've been to hostess bars many times and the girls love working there. What's this guys problem? Women are supposed to do that kind of work. It's in their nature.
@sooper2dooper3 why would a woman WANT to spend their lives pretending to like old perverted men who smell like alcohol and cigarettes? you are an idiot.
now if the girls dont like dressing like that ('in general' supposedly) then why do i see in documentaries so many girls dressed up as different shit, in platform shoes, anime characters, etc
(mind you that they where documentaries of present day japan, and the girls dressing up when they could have worn something normal ranged from 14 yr old school kids to almost in there 30s
she was so happy with her welcome....that makes no sense. not even cause you spelled it wrong but i dont see how she can be happy with her welcoming some one
ahh its just like here in america, its her job to sit there and look like shes happy to see you when she more than likely couldnt give less of a fuck than she already did about who you are or what you want
shit, especially working at mcdonalds, i know she didnt give fuck....i saw a documentary that said in india and japan working thee is considered working at a 5 star restaurant. i couldnt stop laughing for a week cause i knew it was bull.
Very interesting video. I was wondering one thing, if a foreigner meets a girl who has been hostess for several years, and he dates her... how could he know she's being true and doesn't fake love just to get out of her misery. Because after maybe 5 years working there I guess the girl really knows how to manipulate a man.
you dont know since your not psychic, so what you do is NOT DATE some one like that. its the same as prostitutes in america or anywhere else, you have fun with them once but you dont marry em or get caught in the street with them
Dude show some respect. Learn how not to talk shit when others don't need it in their lives. 'Cuz all you're doing is showing you're an inconsiderate ass.
No offense. I know I really don't know you. But get a filter for your comments.
Think about what your statement implies about this girl. And think about what this girl means to this man.
1. I don't give a fuck if you respect "me" because I don't give a fuck about you. The initial comment I made was out of concern for the person you were addressing and any who ma have had to come in contact with you in the future.
2a. I realise you were not speeking toward me and I OBVIOUSLY don't care since I made the reply anyway.
2b. Know I can take shit in my life. It's no big deal because I'm happy with my life right now. へ＿へ
4. All I can say for this one is that you don't know the girl. You don't know how she opperated, her morals, her motives, so you cannot be judgemental. If the man loved her that is fact and it cannot be changed.
Are you saying I have no right to speak for others or are you angry for me calling you out of name, as which I still, even more so know, believe you are?
what the fuck r u talkin about. how is me saying 'you don't marry a whore, wich it sounds like alot of these girls that do 'extra' are' in reference 2 this girl (which a) i dont need 2 know b) u dont know if i know or not) any 1 with intel could c that thats a general fact. apparently u never herd the term use your best judgment, which is what keeps u out of shit in the first place.
if u dont know what im saying scroll up and reread. what im saying now is that if the person im talking 2 doesn't say anything, then y do u give a fuck. im sure he doesnt need u to defend him. lucky 4 u this is the internet, do that with the wrong person on the street and u will get your ass beat/shot. learn 2 keep your mouth shut when no one is talking 2 u, u will have less of a chance of getting into problems.
ps that 'fact' can be changed....if he stops liking her
Hostessing is a crap job (I believe, others will say its good due to the money), but that dosn't mean that the women/girls doing it are bad people. Heck, I'm dating a hostess.
In some restaurants or bars in japan it says Philipinos are not welcome or Koreans are not welcome but other foreigners are welcome I saw that a few times when I was in japan.
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BeerInAWineGlass 3 months ago
i can see why girls would go for this job, being a girl myself. when ur desperate it's a better alternative than prostitution or being a stripper...
BlackHayateTheThird 5 months ago
@BlackHayateTheThird You should read 'Tokyo Vice' by Jake Adelstein. Maybe half of the foreign women recruited from overseas are promised thousands of dollars a month for working on their backs for a couple hours a day, or just being hostesses... Once they arrive, the situation is much different, with alot of them finding themselves in a slave-like situation. Make no mistake. Most of these women are performing sexual acts on a daily basis. Its rare to find a hostess that only talks.
BeerInAWineGlass 3 months ago
@BeerInAWineGlass so depressing T-T
BlackHayateTheThird 3 months ago
@BeerInAWineGlass just wanted to quickly say that in fact *most* hostesses "only" talk. Though the story is different if you are purely talking about foreign hostess clubs.
TokyoZeplin 3 months ago
Why dont they let foreigners in lol..?
StraightUpSmile 6 months ago
@StraightUpSmile generally foreigners have a bad reputation of getting too drunk and not understanding stuff, and not following the social norms of how to behave. They are also afraid that (even if you speak great Japanese o0) you wont understand the payment systems and so on, and will cause problems when you get your bill or stuff like that.
TokyoZeplin 6 months ago
@TokyoZeplin seriously? haha weird 0.0 Btw love ur videos, makes u understand howTokyo works socially, yeah it always seems so perfect there from the outside like you said haha. Wish I could live there too lol : ). Btw I'm from Norway haha! So funny to hear you talk about Denmark sometimes : p
StraightUpSmile 6 months ago
urrrrggghh hate that sound of you blowing out smoke
mrjules2008 6 months ago
@mrjules2008 because it's secretly turning you on, and you're afraid that because of that you're gay? Don't worry man, I have that effect on everybody.
TokyoZeplin 6 months ago 13
Aw man sorry for your bro!
seriesnow 8 months ago
I feel informed, thanks, and this might be late and all, but honestly, sorry for your loss, shit like that is never easy, and I'm hopping that today and in your future you will be filled with happiness,,,, ja ne.
RemyZAngel 8 months ago
I wanna go to a host club o3o it sounds kinda fun
gaaralover49 8 months ago
did you ever hear about the difference between hostess club alias kyabakura and the hostess strip clubs in roppongi where all foreigners without money might end up?maybe you should make a video about that too because roppongi is ,,the one way ticket" only entrance to prostitution in japan but then no exit anymore!
BarbiedollxMinax 9 months ago
I think it varies on where you live; Tokyo is used to a variety of foreigners so they are much more open to welcoming them in Host/Hostess clubs. If you go into other areas of Japan you are far more likely to be asked to leave at the entrance.
ClariceTheBeast 9 months ago
I'm going to have to support RyuShiKan. I had no problem getting into a hostess club as a foreigner. I will say, having also dated hostesses, foreign and Japanese, that exchanging contact info is routine, BUT it's within a limited scope. Experienced hostess have separate personal and business phones, including sometimes keitai dedicated to solitary clients.
DemonDaoist 10 months ago
Holy gay...he must love dick
gentleman9876 10 months ago
Whats up with your hair bro?
willfox12345 10 months ago
gay
bluntley420 10 months ago
uuuummmmmm
housecallsrealty 10 months ago 10
You said gaijin can't get into hostess clubs.
I'm a gaijin, I have been in them as well as many of my gaijin friends.
You said you are expected to exchange contact info. That's not correct and I pointed it out. Your video is titled "the truth about hostess bars" but in actual fact it is just your opinion and you make several blanket statements like the ones I mentioned and try to pass them off as fact.
RyuShiKan 10 months ago
@RyuShiKan If you get into Japanese hostess clubs (aka, no foreign hostesses) with no Japanese people with you, then count yourself lucky. Hey, don't take my word for it, go search on google for it. Pretty much everywhere you read it will state that they are generally closed off to foreigners.
You say exchanging contact info isn't correct... maybe they just didn't exchange it with you? As I said, I have dated hostesses, so I know it's quite the norm. You can see some documentaries on it too.
TokyoZeplin 10 months ago
@TokyoZeplin - search it on google?! are you fucking kidding me? Watch your own video again....You said they "expect you to exchange contact info".... I said that it is not expected. Well sorry to say but given your general appearance I can see why they don't let you in hostess clubs. No offense but you don't look like the type of customer they generally go for. I have been in enough hostess clubs to say it's not as hard as you make it sound.
RyuShiKan 10 months ago
@RyuShiKan Yes, Google, you know, the internet, where people share knowledge and experience? But at this point, I don't really see this going anywhere. Whenever I bring up anything on this, you simply say "no its not". In the end, none of us can "prove" either of our opinions, so we won't get anywhere. All I can say is what I experience, based on knowing quite a few hostess girls, and dating two full-time hostesses.
TokyoZeplin 10 months ago
@TokyoZeplin yes I know GOOGLE it was a search engine invented by as you call us "stupid fucking Americans". So that's your source for credible information?!?!? Oh that's right everything on the web is true and based on fact. *sigh*
RyuShiKan 10 months ago
@RyuShiKan Wow, OK, I'm starting to feel bad for your kids now...
TokyoZeplin 10 months ago
@TokyoZeplin - coming from the guy who says "be careful about what you say about my friends or I'll block you"
RyuShiKan 10 months ago
@RyuShiKan well yes, this is my channel after all. If you want to decide what goes, jump back to your own channel! But yes, I would feel bad for your "Oxford educated" kids, if you don't understand how to search for valid information on the internet.
TokyoZeplin 10 months ago
@TokyoZeplin - Again you can't understand a simple post. Never have I said I didn't know how to do a google search, I said I don't rely on google for all my facts. If you're going to try and quote me do it accurately. But then getting your facts straight doesn't seem to be your forte does it.
RyuShiKan 10 months ago
Your comments in the video are inaccurate and over generalized. I pointed that out with specifics
RyuShiKan 10 months ago
Im not slinging mud, just stating facts and I have pointed out enough of your inaccurate points to support my opinion.
If you want to block me feel free too.
RyuShiKan 10 months ago
@RyuShiKan Dude come on, hitting the "Reply" button isn't hard, and would really make this conversation a lot more fluent to read...
"I have pointed out enough of your inaccurate points to support my opinion" Uh... but when I argue against those points, you just ignore it? If I said "Godzilla is in Tokyo every Friday afternoon", that doesn't make it correct, that just makes it something I say. You need to actually be able to argue for, and back up, your points when discussing.
TokyoZeplin 10 months ago
@TokyoZeplin
I couldn't hit the "reply" button on iphone.
RyuShiKan 10 months ago
Your back peddling now trying to turn your over generalizations into more specifics. Your the typical foreigner that has been here a short wile and thinks he has it all figured out. I have seen your type all too often in Japan. I've been here since you were in diapers and probably been to more of the places you are commenting on than I care to remember.
RyuShiKan 10 months ago
@RyuShiKan so... instead of being able to refute points, you resort to slander. Yes, you are quite obviously a solid source of information... Nonetheless, I'm all for allowing people being critical and having different views, but do know that if you turn this into mud throwing instead, I'll just block you. Not a threat, just a heads up, since that's where you're going right now.
TokyoZeplin 10 months ago
Shall I continue?
RyuShiKan 10 months ago
@RyuShiKan by all means! But I want to correct you in saying that no, foreigners can usually not get into hostess clubs, at least not the Japanese ones, unless they A: bring a Japanese friend, B: speak perfect Japanese and should be prepared to maybe pay a bit more. Don't mix up hostess clubs with girl bars or whatever they're called.
Better do the rest of the replies to your actual posts.
TokyoZeplin 10 months ago
3) shitty job? Maybe if youre in some low class buy me drink bar. The higher end places make some serious money.
RyuShiKan 10 months ago
@RyuShiKan Well, firstly, whether a job is crap or not doesn't necessarily depend on how much money you make. And second, yes, some make a crapload of money. The girl I dated who was a a hostess in Ginza made 800.000yen a month. The one I dated from Roppongi had trouble paying her rent, and made around 200.000yen a month, and worked 60 hours a week.
TokyoZeplin 10 months ago
2) you are not expected to exchange contact info with them. You can if the feeling is mutual but nobody "expects" it.
RyuShiKan 10 months ago
@RyuShiKan of course your not nescesarily expected to exchange contact info with >every< single customer, but exchanging contact info is very much part of the job. Seeing as I've dated two hostesses (one from a sleazy place in Roppongi, and one from a high class place in Ginza), I know. They get called up by customers alllll the freakin' time.
TokyoZeplin 10 months ago
1) gaijin can get into many hostess bars
RyuShiKan 10 months ago
Youre clueless.
RyuShiKan 10 months ago
@RyuShiKan then by all means, do say where?
TokyoZeplin 10 months ago
Sorry to hear about your girlfriend.
Kanoee64 10 months ago
hey whats wrong with you face?
mazhab 10 months ago
@mazhab I dunno man, been like that every since I did your mom :S
TokyoZeplin 10 months ago 2
Inrteresting subject. But PLEASE, rehearse before you post. You do not have the gift of speaking spontaneously. Your stopping-and-starting "humm" and "hmmm" delivery is discontinuous and just impossible to concentrate on. You come off sounding like a person who has nothing of interest to say.
ekphooldomali 10 months ago
Your a faggot Ummmmmmmmmm
doggbiter 10 months ago
@doggbiter your internet comments hurt my fragile feelings :(
TokyoZeplin 10 months ago
hostess clubs sound a lot like hooters.
vokills420 10 months ago
@vokills420 not at all the same. On a different random note, it's not more than a few months ago that the first hooters opened in Japan. Actually one of my friends girlfriend works there.
TokyoZeplin 10 months ago
Does your hair still look like this? Shit, I would pay you to get a haircut....
JrockNerd 10 months ago
@JrockNerd if you were curious, you could watch later videos?
TokyoZeplin 10 months ago
Hey men cool video!!!
Well i think as you said many opinions are about this topic, but i have a question about host clubs i mean if someone how works there is like the same as becoming part of a mafia that you cant stop working in it?
Azumaavila 11 months ago
@Azumaavila no. While the yakuza usually does have a hand in most hostess clubs, it's not like actually joining the mafia.
TokyoZeplin 10 months ago
when ur making vids do u always smoke
lollipop1234ize 1 year ago
Well just because it is another country doesn't make it acceptable that the inhabitants of that country endict all outsiders on the actions of a few like Ishihara who sees all foreigners as either a threat or barbarians just because of couple of sailors bullied him on a train when he was a teenager. I speak Japanese very well also, but there have been times where I have been turned away despite my cordial attitude and Japanese ability. Awareness is a catalyst to change, imo.
reivenlocke 1 year ago
I was accepted into a cabaret club a couple of weeks ago and was treated like a king by the staff and the girl they set me up with. I tried going because it was payday and wanted to see if I could actually get in. I'm guessing the economy is so bad now that they'll take chances on gaijin now.
reivenlocke 1 year ago
@reivenlocke Random question: was it with Japanese women or just asian women? If unsure, did they speak english?
TokyoZeplin 1 year ago
@TokyoZeplin
It was a Japanese girl, actually.
reivenlocke 1 year ago
Btw - We spoke Japanese the whole time. I can see the appeal, but not for 8,000 yen an hour.
reivenlocke 1 year ago
@reivenlocke Huh, well I guess there's a first for everything! When I went to one (a bit of "actually see whats going on if I should talk about it") my Japanese friend actually had to ask around for one just for where I could get in with him :S
TokyoZeplin 1 year ago
@TokyoZeplin
Believe you me, I was totally shocked. Doubly so considering that while hostess clubs run a healthy success percentage rate, the cabaret clubs are near impossible for a gaijin to get in.
reivenlocke 1 year ago
@TokyoZeplin
I don't live in a large city like Tokyo, so I suppose they still have the population to only depend on Japanese only.
reivenlocke 1 year ago
@reivenlocke Meh, cabaret clubs and hostess clubs... same thing really. My ex, a hostess, kept insisting that they were different, but from all I see, it's the same thing, just one is classy looking, and the other is clubby looking :S
But the small city might explain it a bit more. Then again, I would also have thought they would be more open to foreigners in Tokyo since there are more of them :S
But yeah, I'll get my video up at some point about my visit to the hostess club.
TokyoZeplin 1 year ago
@TokyoZeplin
The cabaret clubs are definitely more sexually oriented and reminded me more of a pseudo stripclub. The girl at my table sat down and immediately put her legs across my lap and during the R&B songs, they turned off the lights and she gave me a lapdance. The people in the other booths were getting similar treatment, I'm sure.
reivenlocke 1 year ago
@reivenlocke Well sure, but is that really that different from a hostess club? A friend of mine knows a girl working in Ginza in a hostess club as a "bunny girl". She is basically a waitress there, and walks around in a skimpy bunny suit with bunny ears. And that's in Ginza :S So as I said, there is a bit of a mood change between the two, but I just don't really see it that huge that you'd call it two different things :S
TokyoZeplin 1 year ago
@reivenlocke in my mind, it's a bit like saying "no no, this isn't a strip club, because the girls keep this tiny thong on, and we also play different music" :S I mean sure, it's a tiny bit different... but it's still a strip club :S
TokyoZeplin 1 year ago
@TokyoZeplin
The vibe I always got from hostess clubs was that they are there to charm the pants off of you (not literally) and to keep up at least a semblance of civility. The cabaret club I went to was immediately touchy feely to make you feel good as a man vicerally and to try to make you stay in order to drain your wallet....like a strip club would.
reivenlocke 1 year ago
Great video, thank you for posting.
sindicate6 1 year ago
This is a really good issue to bring up. This is kind of informing people around the world about some of the dark underbelly of what they think is just a peachy rosy society made of kimonos and pikachu's. I was wondering if you might discuss a little about Japan's homeless population and the part of society that lives at Manga cafes and the like. I found a lot of them to be really terrific people, though I learned they do not easily accept charity. I think, you'd bring good light to that!
LastvanLichtenGlorie 1 year ago
@LastvanLichtenGlorie interesting subject idea! I'll definitely keep that in mind!
TokyoZeplin 1 year ago
One other point I'd like to make, the bars that do turn away foreigners have good reason. A lot of foreigners in the past have gone into a place like that and acted like total ass clowns. I have no problem with bars asking us not to enter.
WarmothStrat 1 year ago
@WarmothStrat
Are you Jesus of Nazareth? Because you seem so willing to be crucified for other people's sins.
I, myself see individuals as "ass clowns" and not the other 99% of the world if a couple people from another country do me wrong.
reivenlocke 1 year ago
@reivenlocke Crucified? Sorry, I don't see not being able to go into a bar full of women that you have absolutely no chance of nailing a crucifixion. If anything it's a blessing.
WarmothStrat 1 year ago
@WarmothStrat
Irrelevant. The point being is that you are willing to be discriminated against because some other people acted a fool before you.
reivenlocke 1 year ago
@reivenlocke Well then you just come on over and change their minds.
WarmothStrat 1 year ago
@WarmothStrat
Been here for 13 years, dude.
reivenlocke 1 year ago
@reivenlocke 20 for me. You've been here long enough then to know exactly how out of control some people get into. If you had your own business you wouldn't let them in either. 1 bad apple spoils the bunch. Thats a fact of life.
WarmothStrat 1 year ago
@WarmothStrat
Sorry, but if I were back in the States, I would never bar non-Americans from my bar because a Japanese guy tried to pinch my barmaid on the rear. Not only would it be illegal there, but because I would never villify the rest of the world for a couple of people. You get yaks and drunken ojisans in their 60s trying to relive their 20s doing far worse than a western tourist grabbing rear. I admit the American sailors are a problem, but I'd be wary of the sailors, not all gaijin
reivenlocke 1 year ago
@reivenlocke Well there ya go, if you were back in the States. Another thing people need to remember is that we are not back in the States, yes, I'm American too. I agree 100% that there are drunk Japanese business men that cause just as much trouble, but, that's the way these people do things. No way on this earth that we are going to change that by getting uppity about it. I've been in hostess bars before, matter of fact, I've never been turned away from any place I've been to.
WarmothStrat 1 year ago
@reivenlocke continued: But I speak the language and I don't act like a jerk. Your attitude will get you a long way in this country. I suspect the ones that get turned away are on the radar from the get go.
WarmothStrat 1 year ago
It's not about "getting uppity". Rather, it's about changing the mindset of thinking about foreigners as a collective to thinking about them on a "case by case" basis.
reivenlocke 1 year ago
@reivenlocke I agree with you 100%, but you have to admit that there are a lot of people that, if turned away, would act like an idiot and solidify the bar owners feelings on the topic. To change the mindset these people need to meet people that don't act like that. Again, if you've been here 13 years then you've probably seen, on more than one occasion, foreigners getting out of hand. You have to give respect to get it.
WarmothStrat 1 year ago
@WarmothStrat
But I'm quite sure that Japanese get out of hand at a rate far greater than foreigners, but it's just that the foreigners stand out. It's amazing how a cheeky or borderline bipolar ojisan can be considered a local fixture at a hostess club while they'll put up the barricades for all gaijin if one comes in who does something that is even slightly disapproving.
It's true you have to give respect to get it, but in many cases you aren't given a chance or they don't care.
reivenlocke 1 year ago
@WarmothStrat That's not actually an answer, and even if it was, it doesn't hold water. Firstly, whether I try to change something or not, does not excuse the action that I wish to change. As reivenlocke put it, I should not be blamed for the fault of others. That's like saying "I hate rape" "Meh, if you hate it, just go change it." Well sure, but rape is still bad.
And even if it did hold water, the fact that your not allowed in would make it impossible to change the attitudes of the bar owners
TokyoZeplin 1 year ago
You have half the facts straight and the other 3 quarters sound like you're talking out your ass. First, not all hostess bars turn away foreigners. The ones that don't turn us away outnumber the ones that do. Especially if you speak the language. Second, Japanese people won't talk about their shitty job to a stranger. Who in their right mind would? Third, if you're going to smoke, learn to inhale.
WarmothStrat 1 year ago
Aha! So you're a dane. What's a viking doing in the middle of Tokyo?
macmelmorgan 1 year ago
It's a job folks.... J-h...O-h.. B-h....!! If it was meant to be fun it would be called a hobby, and people would do it for free!! I hate being a cashier and smiling at dumb, lazy, arrogant people who think that respect is JUST another word for customer service when it's a virtue that should be exercised from both sides ALL the time. Okay, I feel better now. Thank you for clearing that issue up about Hosting!
dreamingsaira 1 year ago
So maybe you're a little egotistical, Japanese have layers of truth. Maybe you got half the truth from your host club girl but maybe you didnt get the whole truth.
Silvertrine 1 year ago
@Silvertrine If you knew how the Japanese "layers of truth", as you call them, works, you would realize that I actually only got half the truth, it would mean it's way worse than I'm saying?
Or am I missing something? Your response is somewhat mystical.
TokyoZeplin 1 year ago
@TokyoZeplin Not to mention they're alchool problems who lead them to the usual effects of it : depression. I feel pitty for people who are forced since young age into this underworld. I pray to god everyday to forgive us all humans for being sometimes pushed by irrational behaviours due to problems related to our pasts or brain problems. I'm studying psychology and Japan is an intresting place to try solving the depression problems. Their problem is they don't talk and I know you mentioned it.
Lanfeust22 1 year ago
@Lanfeust22
On top of that, Japanese medicine doesn't recognize things such as clinical depression and schizophrenia as disorders, much less approve of the medicines used to treat them. This is why you see so many people talking to themselves on the street and on the subway and why Japan finds themselves in the 5 spot for suicides per capita.
reivenlocke 1 year ago
That sounds so depressing, the thing that Jap keep all the negative things bottle up inside. I’ve heard that they are very afraid of failure, so it might be a reason why they avoid bad topics while in a conversation. After 65 years since the WWII, the Jap government still can’t accept the fact that their army commit so many war crimes.
jsvapple 1 year ago
@jsvapple please check video `Japanese History Textbook "The Truth?" `.
tyannkonabeumaize 1 year ago
i think it is real bullshit they dont allow foreigners in
animekid941 1 year ago
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animekid941 1 year ago
Ummmm...
themoose1986 1 year ago
you should check out this documentary if you haven't already: The Great Happiness Space - Tale of an Osaka Love Thief ....about host clubs - how it's a tough job - similar to what you describe in your vid
13243546abcdef 1 year ago
@13243546abcdef I mention it in my video on Hosts and Host clubs.
TokyoZeplin 1 year ago
why wont they let foreigners in?
natoman123 1 year ago
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@natoman123 because they are a bunch of stupid idiots
animekid941 1 year ago
I have no idea what they are, but whatever, sure.
zwillredeye 1 year ago
fuck your one ass ugly guy ever heard of sunlight ?
LobsterPunk 1 year ago
I think they have the same thing in Hong Kong.
zwillredeye 1 year ago
@zwillredeye i guess you would know only way your get sex other than your daddy
LobsterPunk 1 year ago
@LobsterPunk What? I read up on it in this book about Hong Kong. It talked about the culture of the Place. They have Hostess clubs there where after the natives have gone to sleep, people (mostly foreigners who obliviously think the hostesses are coming on to them) get chating and pursaude the person to buy drinks. It's the same princibal to what this guy was talking about in the vid.
Why the hell are you getting agitated at a stupid little thing like that?
zwillredeye 1 year ago
@LobsterPunk I mean theres nothing sexual about it or anything, Just some people luring dumb forigners to buy drinks. Anyway, this is what I read and It may not be true anyway, probily bullshit for all I know, can't say because I don't live in the place.
zwillredeye 1 year ago
@zwillredeye don't get lured in by the trolls ^^
TokyoZeplin 1 year ago
Hi
There is a documentary called "Tokyo Girls", talks about the same subject. You can get sex if the person wants to earn extra money and wants gifts like fur coats, gold- watches, etc.
Also sorry about the lost of your female friend. Hope you are doing well. Take care.
knowntothose 1 year ago
Liking the videos. I travelled in Japan for a bit whilst studying in China. There was a lot I didn't understand about Japan and Japanese culture. Its very interesting.
jessyanzio 1 year ago
what about the buttler cafes (maid cafes of foreigners guys instead of japanese maids) ?
zombra89 1 year ago
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chicagobartenda 1 year ago
You are a Fag! Shut the fuck up!
B1rdbrain 1 year ago
@B1rdbrain thank you for your continued support!
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MuSiCiAnMaTtHeW 1 year ago
can a forginer work in a HOST bar? i mean, some girls wud like a gaijin right?
kinglynx 1 year ago
@kinglynx I dont know about hosts, but at least foreign hostesses are not allowed (they do it anyway though, but your not allowed it without a permanent residence visa), so I would assume foreign hosts arent allowed. But again, I know some who have done it. However, the host jobs are extremely few and far between, most foreigners go for butler café's instead.
TokyoZeplin 1 year ago
@TokyoZeplin i see... how do u get a permanent residence visa?... and whats a butler cafe... also i jus found this channel and i watched the videos about your late fiancee, im sorry to hear it bro, my condolences man
kinglynx 1 year ago
@kinglynx all of that are big topics in and of themselves, I suggest you do some google searching. But a heads up, that you wont be getting a permanent residence visa any time soon, since you'll have to have been in the country for a minimum of 7 years.
TokyoZeplin 1 year ago
if u got the money, and want sex you wil most likely get it.
ITsHardstyle 1 year ago
@ITsHardstyle I honestly believe that . There is a video about "Tokyo Girls", in Japan. It goes over the same subject. And includes extra's that came be brought from a girl working a hostes job with gifts and money. Of course all this is done after the meeting.
knowntothose 1 year ago
i´ve been to some countries so far and hostess clubs do exist in many places, i think u dont grasp the concept, the people going there are well aware that this is just fake. those clubs are selling dreams, a pleasent time where u can forgett about all the shit happening around u. not more not less
zigq8vc0 1 year ago
i'm brazillian, and when you tell anyone here that there is a place in japan where you pay people to talk to you, your interlocutor will probably laugh most of the time, at least when he trust you. Japanese society is really interesting and delightful in the visual and esthetical point of view. I'm kinda afraid of what i can discover about the japanese society under stylish clothes and funnny pop songs. Its a pity, but well, any society got its sores.
legimenes 1 year ago
Thx for the vid Z, game recognize game. Good lookin'.
Aldridge517 1 year ago
Did you light a smoke just so we could see you wave it around cooly while you speak? You smoke to be seen... cool...
TheXeno16 1 year ago
Cool videoer : ) Har selv været på ferie derovre. Jeg havde en dejlig ferie men man kan godt mærke at der ligger mere under det hele.
DemonDZ 1 year ago
how is this any different from basically being a bartender or waitress or "shot-girl" in the western clubs???
- Salary is low also (check)
- Men will hit on them and they are supposed to smile (check)
- Waitresses in the west have to flirt also because it makes the guys (especially drunk guys) TIP MORE (check)
- You get hit on by dirty/criminals/perverted/drunk guys all night long (check)
Sounds to me like it's pretty much the same as any other club environment.
kua514 1 year ago
my wife used to be a hostess in roppongi and she used to make 200 to 300 hundred a day just talking but she says the system there is really stressful and is not as easy as it seems, she told me that you can pay for sex and she got offered 10 grand for sex which she took cuz she felt sorry for the poor guy, but i think most of these girls will have sex as long as the price is right.
SuperHotboy6969 1 year ago
I actually saw a Documentary on the life of a "host" in Japan. It seemed pretty hectic.
GrenMoyo 1 year ago
was it " the great happiness space". I have that movie on my ps3. it gives a real insight into the host world of japan.
TheRock1 1 year ago
yes it was :D
GrenMoyo 1 year ago
i don't understand the issue here. it's a job. if they don't want to demean themselves, then they should quit and get a job in which they don't have to. it's a matter of choice, is it not? it's not like they're in shackles.
iDislikeNames 1 year ago 6
its hard to get jobs in the phillipines they do it because there is no choice
someusernamedtuber 1 year ago
@iDislikeNames Well from what I've seen the USA has hookers and a lot of other countries have the same thing. Being a hostess actually seems better then working off the street... :P
Batmanshack 1 year ago
you don't have to say the 1% thing just because of the haters on youtube ken, just go with the flow.
Krazywoot 2 years ago
finally found your frekkin page. Minxy keeps raving about you.
rollermaul22 2 years ago
thanks for sharing
kashish113 2 years ago
Thanks love your vid's helpful tips before I go
AngelmetsMafy 2 years ago
wow man, your videos are sobering, telling the dark truth, probably bursting some peoples shiny bubbles and others probly refuse to listen. You make a lot of good points.
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The girls want to be hostesses. They chose the job. I've been to hostess bars many times and the girls love working there. What's this guys problem? Women are supposed to do that kind of work. It's in their nature.
sooper2dooper3 2 years ago
@sooper2dooper3 why would a woman WANT to spend their lives pretending to like old perverted men who smell like alcohol and cigarettes? you are an idiot.
megkoji99 2 years ago
@megkoji99 because Japanese hostess make a lot of money for just conversing, it is very easy job.
109mytiger 2 years ago
Wait, did you say your girlfriend died? D:
Obliverated 2 years ago
now if the girls dont like dressing like that ('in general' supposedly) then why do i see in documentaries so many girls dressed up as different shit, in platform shoes, anime characters, etc
(mind you that they where documentaries of present day japan, and the girls dressing up when they could have worn something normal ranged from 14 yr old school kids to almost in there 30s
TENNSUMITSUMA 2 years ago
5:20 what the fuck did you say.....'who is now' what
TENNSUMITSUMA 2 years ago
i remember going to a macyd's in Kyoto and the girl was so happy with her IRASHAIMASSE!
Then I saw her across the street in a 7-11 looking so miserable....
BrianMont1 2 years ago
'he girl was so happy with her IRASHAIMASSE'
she was so happy with her welcome....that makes no sense. not even cause you spelled it wrong but i dont see how she can be happy with her welcoming some one
TENNSUMITSUMA 2 years ago
she was so happy in the manner she said it.. as in facial expressions and attitude..clear enough now?
BrianMont1 2 years ago
ahh its just like here in america, its her job to sit there and look like shes happy to see you when she more than likely couldnt give less of a fuck than she already did about who you are or what you want
TENNSUMITSUMA 2 years ago
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shit, especially working at mcdonalds, i know she didnt give fuck....i saw a documentary that said in india and japan working thee is considered working at a 5 star restaurant. i couldnt stop laughing for a week cause i knew it was bull.
TENNSUMITSUMA 2 years ago
The first video I'm watching you.
*Chu*
You're my idol now.
(Nice hair btw.)
IDontCareSoSTFU 2 years ago
I do not like them Sam I am. :)
icecoldwolf 2 years ago
Very interesting video. I was wondering one thing, if a foreigner meets a girl who has been hostess for several years, and he dates her... how could he know she's being true and doesn't fake love just to get out of her misery. Because after maybe 5 years working there I guess the girl really knows how to manipulate a man.
FabuleuxFab 2 years ago
you dont know since your not psychic, so what you do is NOT DATE some one like that. its the same as prostitutes in america or anywhere else, you have fun with them once but you dont marry em or get caught in the street with them
TENNSUMITSUMA 2 years ago
It's a bit hard to say they're just like prostitutes... And if you fall in love well I guess there's nothing much to do.
FabuleuxFab 2 years ago
Dude show some respect. Learn how not to talk shit when others don't need it in their lives. 'Cuz all you're doing is showing you're an inconsiderate ass.
No offense. I know I really don't know you. But get a filter for your comments.
Think about what your statement implies about this girl. And think about what this girl means to this man.
No disrespect , but consider..
KjinAboii 2 years ago
1 i show respect to people who earn it not people who tell me to give it
2 i wasnt talking to you so if you dont need my 'shit' in your 'life' then fuck off. as to how you speak for 'others' i dont know.
3 u coming here cryin like a bitch over a comment that has nothing to do with you is worse than me being an 'inconsiderate ass' as u claim
4 i dont need a 'filter'. the simple truth is you don't marry a whore, wich it sounds like alot of these girls that do 'extra' are
TENNSUMITSUMA 2 years ago
1. I don't give a fuck if you respect "me" because I don't give a fuck about you. The initial comment I made was out of concern for the person you were addressing and any who ma have had to come in contact with you in the future.
2a. I realise you were not speeking toward me and I OBVIOUSLY don't care since I made the reply anyway.
2b. Know I can take shit in my life. It's no big deal because I'm happy with my life right now. へ＿へ
KjinAboii 2 years ago
2c. I do not speak "for" others. I meerly say what must be said when no one else speaks.
3. Lol I'm crying like a bitch? You can't even see me. You have no basis for that claim.
KjinAboii 2 years ago
4. All I can say for this one is that you don't know the girl. You don't know how she opperated, her morals, her motives, so you cannot be judgemental. If the man loved her that is fact and it cannot be changed.
Are you saying I have no right to speak for others or are you angry for me calling you out of name, as which I still, even more so know, believe you are?
Don't answer that question.
No one really cares.
KjinAboii 2 years ago
what the fuck r u talkin about. how is me saying 'you don't marry a whore, wich it sounds like alot of these girls that do 'extra' are' in reference 2 this girl (which a) i dont need 2 know b) u dont know if i know or not) any 1 with intel could c that thats a general fact. apparently u never herd the term use your best judgment, which is what keeps u out of shit in the first place.
TENNSUMITSUMA 2 years ago
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if u dont know what im saying scroll up and reread. what im saying now is that if the person im talking 2 doesn't say anything, then y do u give a fuck. im sure he doesnt need u to defend him. lucky 4 u this is the internet, do that with the wrong person on the street and u will get your ass beat/shot. learn 2 keep your mouth shut when no one is talking 2 u, u will have less of a chance of getting into problems.
ps that 'fact' can be changed....if he stops liking her
TENNSUMITSUMA 2 years ago
'tev im done any way. An btw I know the streets better than you think.
Peace :p
KjinAboii 2 years ago
'An btw I know the streets better than you think.'
(O_o) so....
TENNSUMITSUMA 2 years ago
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KjinAboii 2 years ago
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KjinAboii 2 years ago
Hostessing is a crap job (I believe, others will say its good due to the money), but that dosn't mean that the women/girls doing it are bad people. Heck, I'm dating a hostess.
TokyoZeplin 2 years ago
arent you worried that she might do some 'extra work' (if you get what im saying) and bring home stuff to you that you that you dont want.
not saying YOUR girl is a whore, but it seems like these 'hostesses' can be from what this (or the other) video you made said
TENNSUMITSUMA 2 years ago