This is fucking retarded. Why would the douche on the bottom even hold guard without any bjj training? Like fuck, you noobs are training anti bjj without having the slightest clue of the guard
Anybody that says KFM isn't effective in MMA obviously hasn't tried it. I have just started encorporating it into my ground and pound techniques and it works amazing. If you have somebody in guard and they start doing hammers, elbows, etc to your legs and body you just want to open up your guard and get away...the second that guard is opened up theres the pass....KFM is amazing at opening things up such as that..as far as finishing a fight, I'm sure its capable but I've found it best in guard.
Sorry, I'n confused now. So you're 'digging out' Gracie JJ for doing the same as the KFM guys but the KFM guys do it in the name of good business!?!?!? Why the need for smug comments? Why does everyone get so caught up in 'systems' & the politics therein??
No just sayin that i seein commercials of gjj with rener and other family members promoting gjj as a street solution They see that people who are not interested in mma but pure self defense is a growing market doesnt mean it isn't effective just sayin y are you baggin on KFM if gjj is doin the exact same thing but a different market
Absolutely agree. BUT this video isn't about the street, it's about MMA. The KFM stuff is good, it's just that sometimes they come across as totally arrogant.
...always wouldnt, but....fuck its training 1 of 1000nds situations...
doesnt matter which "martial art" or "system" or wtf ever u train...u always train technics and situations which may happen...in a fight maybe u can use 1 of 1000 and maybe it will work...see how "boxers" are training defending by moving their bodies (i trained boxing my self) and then plz show me how often they use it in a fight...same as everything...dont matter if wing chung, boxing, bjj, kfm or whatever..just train!!!!!!
The thing about the Keysi guys is that they are master MARKETERS b/c of their original corporate backing. They realise that the MMA market is huge. Funny how KFM was marketed once upon a time as a pure 'street' solution. Now they've changed their tune. Funny that.
Funny how gracie jj was for mma then i see videos of street self defense from them funny that huh. Dude its just expanding who they sell there system to nothing wrong with that god i hope your not a business major
i understand what he is teaching, but in real life the fighter on the ground will be moving, squirming for a better position and not to mention throwing blows of his own as well as going for a submission hold. ive seen it myself, but his teachings have a point.
this guy doesnt factor in the fact that the opponent might slip and escape the guard position to stand up. You have to press your body as close as possible so the opponent doesnt easily get out, by doing so this technique is impossible to pull in real mma fight.
will we ever see this in a top tier MMA event? prob not as it seems to be to reliant on a passive/fatigued opponent.
still interesting though, Andy Norman looks a bit of a machine, pretty poor coaching method though! far to much pressure/power being applied on the demo guy.
ive never seen it before and it looks like a really good method to learn with grappling, but why is he so rough on demonstrations, the students are groaning, its stupid. they will just be thinking what a prick, then they wont be thinking of the sequence. so they wont learn it propperly. away common sense.
seems legit and very practical, this seems like it would be an effective ground and pound from guard if done correctly. Would love to see it used in a match
its very good the style ...ive trained in it a little at a class near me and if you already train freestyle or krav maga ,thai..it flows in very nicely as most good martial artists kno its about how you flow and not being stuck in the my styles bettsr than yours attitude.i wish tho the instructer i trained with was master norman seems like a cool guy with the right attitude
KFM is think is just a part of it, a technique. Part of the whole. It makes good sense when you get bombed on in close quarters. I like the guard application and it makes sense. I'd like to learn it but wouldn't relay on it alone. The moves looks sharp. They say it's not a sport martial art nor a reinvention of the wheel but the accumulated knowledge of years of fighting. I agree and like that methodology behind it.
It would of course have to be put to the test, full contact, in terms of its capacity to do real damage inside the cage, but it certainly seems like it would at least be something that could wear down the opponent.
BTW, I don't believe that I've seen anyone in MMA with the kind of movement that Andy Norman is showing. Impressive...most impressive.
7:42 They need a dummy. Otherwise the exercise isn´t hard enough.
MegaSmud 5 months ago
@MegaSmud what a great idea
23Rexmagnum23 5 months ago
it`s just kali.
MrJoalre 7 months ago
@MrJoalre and TKD dont forget
23Rexmagnum23 7 months ago
@23Rexmagnum23 And jkd and silat
23Rexmagnum23 5 months ago
@23Rexmagnum23 and kkd and kali and every other except its own.
23Rexmagnum23 5 months ago
This is fucking retarded. Why would the douche on the bottom even hold guard without any bjj training? Like fuck, you noobs are training anti bjj without having the slightest clue of the guard
Lejendary2 8 months ago
@Lejendary2 coz its a training drill
23Rexmagnum23 8 months ago
@23Rexmagnum23 teaches you how to spaz? lawl
Lejendary2 8 months ago
Ilove the rolling elbow movements... Much like the Muay Borat method... dirty and lethal.... awesome demo....
ANGELSGYMSINGH 9 months ago
yeap.. good techniques for using in the floor..
landoteixeira 1 year ago
niiiiiiiiiiiiiice!!!!
JOHNNYwxw 1 year ago
wow where can I go to get some of this training from Andy?
Shadowhunter712 2 years ago
i like that
DtheanimalG 2 years ago
this works wit practice just like a lot of other things
ValeTudo56 2 years ago
"yuz japp... kove!"
TheFelixSjostrand 2 years ago 2
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alexachung1 2 years ago
Anybody that says KFM isn't effective in MMA obviously hasn't tried it. I have just started encorporating it into my ground and pound techniques and it works amazing. If you have somebody in guard and they start doing hammers, elbows, etc to your legs and body you just want to open up your guard and get away...the second that guard is opened up theres the pass....KFM is amazing at opening things up such as that..as far as finishing a fight, I'm sure its capable but I've found it best in guard.
jamster114 2 years ago 7
Keysi Fighting Method is a scam, rubber guard takes away all this, you wont have the space to do anything.
GorillaKingdomFN 2 years ago
@GorillaKingdomFN
shut your mouth nigger
britishfedor 2 years ago
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shut your mouth nigger , keysi will use knees to strike and hands underneath to help turn.
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shut your mouth nigger , keysi will use knees to strike and hands underneath to help sweep
britishfedor 2 years ago
coover
joseworldofwarcraft 2 years ago
Sorry, I'n confused now. So you're 'digging out' Gracie JJ for doing the same as the KFM guys but the KFM guys do it in the name of good business!?!?!? Why the need for smug comments? Why does everyone get so caught up in 'systems' & the politics therein??
ethaoroz 2 years ago
No just sayin that i seein commercials of gjj with rener and other family members promoting gjj as a street solution They see that people who are not interested in mma but pure self defense is a growing market doesnt mean it isn't effective just sayin y are you baggin on KFM if gjj is doin the exact same thing but a different market
Keysi4life 2 years ago
because actually training is too hard for those keyboard blackbelts :P
Semimaru 2 years ago 9
Absolutely agree. BUT this video isn't about the street, it's about MMA. The KFM stuff is good, it's just that sometimes they come across as totally arrogant.
ethaoroz 2 years ago
@ethaoroz
shut it
britishfedor 2 years ago
I don't know how effective KFM is in MMA but it for sure is effective in the streets
Keysi4life 2 years ago
wouldnt the bjj guy just grab wrist control or just hug him down or yeah just escape
AndrewPhetsomphou 2 years ago
...always wouldnt, but....fuck its training 1 of 1000nds situations...
doesnt matter which "martial art" or "system" or wtf ever u train...u always train technics and situations which may happen...in a fight maybe u can use 1 of 1000 and maybe it will work...see how "boxers" are training defending by moving their bodies (i trained boxing my self) and then plz show me how often they use it in a fight...same as everything...dont matter if wing chung, boxing, bjj, kfm or whatever..just train!!!!!!
TierDrama 2 years ago 3
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ethaoroz 2 years ago
any links?
LuqmanNaq 2 years ago
The thing about the Keysi guys is that they are master MARKETERS b/c of their original corporate backing. They realise that the MMA market is huge. Funny how KFM was marketed once upon a time as a pure 'street' solution. Now they've changed their tune. Funny that.
ethaoroz 2 years ago
Funny how gracie jj was for mma then i see videos of street self defense from them funny that huh. Dude its just expanding who they sell there system to nothing wrong with that god i hope your not a business major
Keysi4life 2 years ago
i understand what he is teaching, but in real life the fighter on the ground will be moving, squirming for a better position and not to mention throwing blows of his own as well as going for a submission hold. ive seen it myself, but his teachings have a point.
onlyhonestonehere 2 years ago
this guy doesnt factor in the fact that the opponent might slip and escape the guard position to stand up. You have to press your body as close as possible so the opponent doesnt easily get out, by doing so this technique is impossible to pull in real mma fight.
sabreharyanto 2 years ago
I've seen BJ Penn use that elbow to the quadracep then fire high. Doesn't seem too terrible to me.
Godsmasher22 2 years ago
"will we ever see this in a top tier MMA event? prob not as it seems to be to reliant on a passive/fatigued opponent."
TOTALLY AGREE WITH THIS. "Disecting a corpse", "dry land swimming", etc, etc
Find it interesting that even one of their own ambassadors competes in MMA fights BUT NONE of what he does is KFM!!!Watch the footage for yourself!
Let's see them up against the Gracies, Frank Shamrock, George St Pierre, etc.
ethaoroz 2 years ago
will we ever see this in a top tier MMA event? prob not as it seems to be to reliant on a passive/fatigued opponent.
still interesting though, Andy Norman looks a bit of a machine, pretty poor coaching method though! far to much pressure/power being applied on the demo guy.
thesilverfingered1 2 years ago
ive never seen it before and it looks like a really good method to learn with grappling, but why is he so rough on demonstrations, the students are groaning, its stupid. they will just be thinking what a prick, then they wont be thinking of the sequence. so they wont learn it propperly. away common sense.
11QLMU 3 years ago
He is demonstrating on other instructors
SlainRebel 2 years ago
my bad
11QLMU 2 years ago
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11QLMU 3 years ago
seems legit and very practical, this seems like it would be an effective ground and pound from guard if done correctly. Would love to see it used in a match
FBman42 3 years ago
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pretty shite to be fair!
next will be biting
thesilverfingered1 3 years ago
its very good the style ...ive trained in it a little at a class near me and if you already train freestyle or krav maga ,thai..it flows in very nicely as most good martial artists kno its about how you flow and not being stuck in the my styles bettsr than yours attitude.i wish tho the instructer i trained with was master norman seems like a cool guy with the right attitude
fergal1980 3 years ago 2
totally agree with ya
adrenalinejunkie93 3 years ago
also all of this is applicable to standing as well i think.
adrenalinejunkie93 3 years ago
yes it is
SlainRebel 2 years ago
KFM is think is just a part of it, a technique. Part of the whole. It makes good sense when you get bombed on in close quarters. I like the guard application and it makes sense. I'd like to learn it but wouldn't relay on it alone. The moves looks sharp. They say it's not a sport martial art nor a reinvention of the wheel but the accumulated knowledge of years of fighting. I agree and like that methodology behind it.
fdiaz05 3 years ago
And this is why I train in the KFM! Bad ass stuff. Really can't wait to move higher than yellow grade.
MoogleStiltz 3 years ago
Do you know if their are any schools in Michigan that teach KFM? I'd love to learn it in conjunction with Krav Maga.
shonuff9 3 years ago
did you check that shadowing out by one of the guys!! impressive!!
dojodemon 3 years ago
Very exciting implications for MMA.
It would of course have to be put to the test, full contact, in terms of its capacity to do real damage inside the cage, but it certainly seems like it would at least be something that could wear down the opponent.
BTW, I don't believe that I've seen anyone in MMA with the kind of movement that Andy Norman is showing. Impressive...most impressive.
ThePoorBoy 3 years ago
WOW Andy Norman is an amazing teacher! I want to be trained by him!
Sheik06 3 years ago
I want to see KFM in MMA action!!!!!!!
digitalkrade 3 years ago