Debat Kontrak Sosial 2008 part 3/3

[CeNgKoDoKPiSaNg89]

Bersyukurlah saudara kami dari kaum Cina dan India kerana kamu berada di Bumi Emas(Suvarnabhumi@Golden Khersonese) yang bertuah ini iaitu Malaysia. Sekiranya kamu berada di Indonesia dan Thailand...adakah akan wujud lagi identiti kamu sebagaimana yang kamu ada sekarang??? Fikir2kanlah... Kami tidak pernah mempersoal kerakyatan dan hak Bukan Bumiputera, tetapi kenapa hak kami terus dipersoal? Jika ada antara kami mempertahankan isu ini akan dituduh rasis...patutkah??? kamu pula apa???

[StudioOneMarketing]

ONE WOULD NEVER HEARD ABOUT SPECIAL RIGHTS IN THE WORLD OF GLOBALISATION.

I WAS SHAME OF BEING MALAYSIAN ACTUALY, PLANNING TO SHIFT TO SHANGHAI OR HK (YES, I REALLY BALIK CHINA! HAHA) INSTEAD OF STAYING HERE. THE POLICY OR WHAT YOU CALL CONTRACT OR WHATEVER DRAGING MALAYSIA BACKWARDS. ONE WOULD OBVIOUS CAN BE NOTICE WHEN COMPARES TO SPORE, A TINY LAND THAT TURN INTO GOLD. WITHOUT HELP FROM OTHER RACES, TANAH MELAYU ADALAH TANAH TANAM JAGUNG. IF ALL LEFT, WHAT ABILITY U GUYS GOT? SPECIAL RIGHTS?

[johanazmanshah]

@StudioOneMarketing bye2.. n good luck overthere.

[erictoh88]

saya, anak cina, datuk saya telah duduk disini sejak 1910, berbanding dengan pendatang indonesia yang baru dapat kewarganergaan malaysia, sekarang dia bumiputra (1st class citizen) saya masih non-bumi (2nd class citizen), tolonglah jaga perasaan kami

[MuthuMariam]

@erictoh88 kita buleh jga prasaan hati cina dan india dengan syarat SJKC/T dihapuskan...PM and TPM are Malays and muslim only...and use bahasa only...ok?

[johanazmanshah]

@erictoh88 who said you're second class citizen. it is ur perception. i never consider chinese and indian friends as 2nd class.

[9w2xyz]

@johanazmanshah No, but you condone all the things done at their expense. Like a Non Muslim paid for mosque. And scholarships....etc.

[Jasonchuah1989]

@johanazmanshah

Kami second la ......Babi lancau contract social

[KeIabPenyokongBN]

"Selamat Aman Makmur"

[zahidsj]

Zalim = meletakkan sesuatu bukan pada tempatnyer

Ibrahim Ali cuba mempertahankan hak beliau seperti yg termaktub dlm perlembagaan. Selagi policy tidak berubah selagi, itu tindakan Ibrahim Ali adalah tepat & adil. Tidak ramai pemimpin sekarang yg berani mempertahankan hak. Ramai pemimpin politik sekarang cuba meraih sokongan murahan pengundi.

[syizman2]

Rasulullah SAW ditanya, apakah dianggap ‘Asabiyyah jika seseorang itu mengasihi kaumnya? Baginda SAW menjawab, “TIDAK, AKAN TETAPI APA YANG DIANGGAP SEBAGAI ‘ASABIYYAH ITU IALAH APABILA SESEORANG ITU MENOLONG KAUMNYA ATAS KEZALIMAN!” [Musnad al-Imam Ahmad bin Hanbal, hadith Wathilah bin al-Asqa']

[syizman2]

Pemerintah Wajib Berlaku Adil

Hadith :

“Daripada Aishah r.a. katanya, aku mendengar Rasulullah s.a.w. bersabda dalam rumahku ini, “ Ya Allah, sesiapa yang mentadbir sesuatu urusan pemerintahan umatku, kemudian ia melakukan kezaliman ke atas mereka,

[syizman2]

Pemerintah Wajib Berlaku Adil

Hadith :

“Daripada Aishah r.a. katanya, aku mendengar Rasulullah s.a.w. bersabda dalam rumahku ini, “ Ya Allah, sesiapa yang mentadbir sesuatu urusan pemerintahan umatku, kemudian ia melakukan kezaliman ke atas mereka, maka kembalikan kezaliman itu ke atas mereka. Sesiapa yang mentadbir sesuatu urusan pemerintahan umatku, dengan menunjukkan kasih sayang kepada mereka, maka kasihilah orang tersebut”.

Riwayat Muslim

[idolakunizar]

i support PERKASA ................ all malay should support PERKASA because UMNO and PAS only wat to be goverment and not defence malay

[TheFlaming1978]

Ibrahim Ali points very clear & straight forward. We want more political leaders like him. I'm not surprise if he will be the most political influences in M'sia politic within 2 years.

[suaige77]

learn more history la, dont 'ponteng' class !!

if u 'ponteng', this is the result !!

[ashyamin]

Perhatikan lah..yg kecoh2 kontrak sosial ni semuanya yg tak pernah susah!!!dan tak pernah rasai kawasan yg betul2 hidup susah!!bawak meraka ni pergi ke kampung pendalaman yg hidup menoreh getah dan bertani..barula diorg insaf kot..

[ashyamin]

Aku rasa, di awal perbincangan lagi, ke dua-dua panelis bersetuju perlu kontrak sosial untuk aman berdasarkan stuasi negara. cumanya kenapa dasar itu masih gagal dicapai.

org yg pertikai kontrak sosial ni, org tamak je..percayala..cina yg miskin, melayu yg miskin,india yg miskin,bumiputera sabah serawak yg miskin.. sama je rasa sakitnya miskin tu macam mana.. ni bila org tamak yg nak kaut sebanyak mungkin sahaja yang membuat kecoh..

[zahidsj]

globalisationmindset: So what's your problem? You believe in quality, that's your problem. Ibrahim Ali only defending his right. This is not an issue. If this is the issue why when the policy is draft, no one object it. Don't blame Ibrahim Ali.

[pepgodila]

ibrahim ali perkauman tebal

[fazzyakamello]

sudahlah politik kaum ni. kalau kita nak maju. kena ada keadilan untuk semua,

ibrahim a useless leader.

[zahidsj]

Ibrahim Ali very straight forward. Easy to understand & comprehend.

I believe DAP need to come out with better policy to help poor Malay.

Otherwise, DAP seem to be more racist than BN.

[billymayday]

@zahidsj, DAP is pragmatism, take a look at the government contract in penang, they are mostly malay even they don't apply NEP... it benefits the government and the people, that's pragmatism, social class may come into play, but not by race.

ibrahim ali acknowledge of social contract is misinterpret and contradict to jacque rousseau idea, even at the surface... there're ways to help the poors, misinterpret and falsify can only lies for the poor, and that's far from good enough.

[globalisationmindset]

i was born poor, a chinese, i never ask for special rights to be success in the world of globalisation.

if a person got quality, hard working and smart enough, in whatever condition he/she'll be success. if a person no quality, no matter how we help them, it's useless

[billymayday]

i said ibrahim ali win the most presentation overall, but jeff did come out with real good points, that actually debunk the racialism policy has no basis to selectively chosen a preference perspective.

[idrismobin]

kepada precept66 bacalah sejarah malaysia...

[airepal]

sentimen orang melayu...tak abes2 tu je point

[zahidsj]

Ibrahim Ali very brave and know history very well.

I agreed Jeff got grilled by him.

[precept66]

Ooi Ibrahim Ali, you talk nonsense.

Throw you to Wat Uttamaram, Pasir Mas untuk bertaubat. or you want to be in Muzium Negara.

[ngngIee]

Jeff Oot got grilled on DAP's favorites topic. ha ha!