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  • The war will be over when leave when the oligarchy who pull the strings of all Western governments, have secured the oil/opium resources in their complete control. Then its off to Libya to overtake the Libyan oil fields by fomenting an internal rebellion in Libya to justify 'military intervention'....Notice the term 'to protect our interests'. Its all about pillage and plunder by the corporate crooks who run this country.Who's that? The oilagarchs, the military/industrial group, the bankers

  • WHERE are the WMD???

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  • nah because. the american government has them there past 2012, after obama said like 200 times hes not like bullshit bush, and then, just to top that off, its one of the very few places that will survive if 2012 happens, HMMMMM!

  • yeah biden

  • no more war for israel, enough

  • I like how the only CHANGE in Bush's foreign policy we got was more troops being sent to Afghanistan. I guess technically that is "change", but I was expecting an actual reversal in Bush's policy, not an increase

  • @daraidazz I am not defending Clinton as he was a warmonger as well. However Saddam did actually have weapons of mass destruction at one point as he used them on the Kurds. However, he disarmed prior to the invasion as he did not want the US and UK to have a reason to invade.

  • the last guy's right

  • No debate there. The answer is never. The US has troops in Japan/Germany 60 years after WW2. We do NOT leave nations we occupy unless one looks to the Vietnam debacle.

  • so if we were to take out base out of japan the country would fall apart?

  • Barack Obama will die from natural ailments before mid December 2009

  • It's true that his hair is whitening at a rate much faster than any seen before.

    Anyone supporting withdrawal, answer this:

    What the fuck is going to happen to Kurdistan and most of the Iraqi secular left, when we leave and the militias have free reign?

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  • I just wonder if these people even know what a brigade is

  • doubt it

  • Ok people listen here and listen good. Support it or not don't blame it on the President as i have. But it is to my mistake in doing so. They are doing what they are being told to do. and either way Afghanstan and Iraq hold Terroristic (spell?) Leaders. We happened to take down the Ace (Saddam) Bin Laden is Dead thats for sure! His videos were created a while ago and just realsed now to make you morons think he is alive.

  • What America doesn't know is that most of the fuckers in the service were either forced to enlist by their parents, escaping from the law, or too stupid to stay in school. I was in the Army and I assure you, there are no heros. We drank, fucked everything with a hole, masturbated at every chance, and mocked civilians. We did our duties well because we had to, otherwise we didn't give a shit about anyone but ourselves. No heroes. Only stupid expendable rejects of society. USA toilet paper for me,

  • i spent 8 years four in vietnam and i found none that you describe all were good people trying to do therir best in a situation they were trying to fix god you are such a jerk it's hard to believe you call youself a soldier leave my country please

  • That must explain the army but in my service in the Marines we were the finest this country has to offer.... I wish i could picture u in the cross hairs.. Semper Fi....do our die...kill em all

  • @NECROFEELATTACK2 Really? Everyone from my Family who served were all educated and CHOSE to serve. I'm not questioning your service or why you joined, but don't say there are no heros. I agree there are TONS of servicemen who served under conditions you stated and have known some, but I would also say most came out a better man and also learned a lot from being in (Except the one's who came back dead of course)

  • bush could kill him but Barack did.  Man up for the Libz.

  • Dah! your troops is not suppose to be there in the first place, they are occupiers in a foreign nation! Is not a question of when do they leave, it's a question of what the hell are they doing there?

  • @homer30 they doing it so they can have a strong military base if they happen the get in war with Iran, couse Iraq and Iran are close the each other, Same thing with Afghanistan. They wanna attack from both sides

  • stop the war at middle east.are you crazy?what if middle east attact US later.if us stop war at M E iraqi and other gla forces will save their budjet and then they will attact US.

  • wow biden pwned at 3 mins

  • where is Obama's answer? WHo edited it out? And why?

  • What people don't seem to understand, is that if we pull out right now, we leave ourselves in the same position that we did a few years ago. We need to take care of the sitiuation before we leave and set up some form of government or diplomatic understanding that we will not have to deal with another 9/11.

  • how fast did they get the troops there? bet they can get them out just as fast...if they want to..

    they are talking alot about money too..some of them eaven selling cars..ha ha

    why cant politicians say yes or no?

  • if i could bring up the issue that scares me the most...its the one no one seems to know or care about..and that would be barack obama signing under the black liberation theology...and no that is not anything MLK would promote..google or wiki it up and maybe youll understand...obama is a fairytale story teller...almost all his plans are impossible...i like biden..then mccain...i like mccain but my god sarah palin is a fucking facist religious nut..brilliant woman but i do not like her at all..

  • Joe Biden is one righteous, rational man.

  • Wow, that made me tear up.

  • Biden for Prez.....

    Obama/Biden 08

  • THere were WMD's the got them out. They are a threat, what is wrong with you? The Dems use anti war to get votes but the main candidates that had achance admit they cannot do that.

  • It just sounds alot to me like bin Laden is just made up cuz look... they told us bin laden was in afgahnistan... then we went to war over there... then they said iraq had ties to al queda and they had wmds, then we went to war over there... now theyre using the wmd thing on iran and saying bin laden is in pakistan. looks to me as a way to clear out us opposition and install pro-us people in order to secure the resources, mainly oil.

  • There's just no direction in either war. It's like oh no WMDs, now what? Oh no bin Laden, now what? Oh no more Hussein, now what? I have heard on television that bin Laden is probably hiding in Pakistan. So now what? Are we gonna go fight a war over there? Bush has gotta be one of the stupidest people ever to be President. If we pull out of Iraq, it should be like a Vietnamization-type deal. Slowly reduce troop levels until we're just all out of there. Cuz I agree we can't just cut and run.

  • And I'm sure half these Arab countries would change their views toward us if we stopped supporting Israel.

  • Yeah no kidding. It's not like there's a draft. They can choose NOT to join the military. The reason I want out of Iraq is because these private companies over there that provide security and oil stuff are wasting up our tax money. Not to mention we look like Nazis to the rest of the world. We never did find any WMD's or capture bin Laden, which were the two goals of these wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. So wtf are we doing there? Quit worrying about terrorism, and worry abt communism.

  • you are a fucking idiot

  • I am a fucking idiot? Why? Because I oppose an unjust war? Let me tell you something. If McCain gets elected, do you think he will ever leave Iraq? What is the point of that war anyway? When 9/11 happened, our goal was to get Bin Laden, who was being harbored by Afghanistan. The war in Afghanistan was unerfunded and undersupplied so that they could go into Iraq and get the "WMDs" that we never found. We have completely forgotten all about Afghanistan. Its Iraq's freedom so let them fight for it.

  • I don't like any war, but I felt that Afghanistan was the correct action to take, assuming that 9/11 was indeed a terrorist attack and not an inside job, which I highly doubt it is. But now look. They have gone into a country without trying diplomacy and under false pretenses in order to basically secure our oil. CIA were the ones who put Hussein in power in the 1st place. Now Iraq is going to turn into exactly what Afghanistan became after the Russians left.

  • CIA was also stupid for teaching those people how to make makeshit explosve devices. Because now all those people that the CIA taught are coming from other countries to attack our troops. CIA taught all those people how to make them in order to sabatoge the Russians in Afghanistan. Not to mention, both wars lack direction. We don't really have any goals over there besides occupation. Where does it end? Look how Vietnam ended up. I don't wanna see more Americans die there.

  • Now to me, it sounds like the most logical way to get out of both wars is to do like a Vietnamization-type deal. Where we pull so many troops out of there every week or every month and replace them with Iraqi and Afghan troops until we are completely out of there. Otherwise where does this war end? We keep staying there and staying there until we lose so many hundred thousand American lives? It isn't worth it.

  • thats dumb for 2 reasons. one, vietnam fell again after we pulled out, and the iraqi troops are even more spineless than the arvns, and two this started because of our vietnam strategy. they planned on us being spineless and not retalliating. we HAVE to stay. we HAVE to get UN backing, thats the way to fix it, get UN behind us.

  • One reason we left Vietnam is because after the Tet Offensive, it turned into an unwinnable war. So many people are dieing over there now. Is it really worth it? It's their country. Let them fight for it. Well let me ask you this. When you see your friends and your family going over there and dieing, are you going to still support the war? The war is a waste of money. Great. We should do that. Not retaliate. Sit and wait for them. Then when they come here, we blow the shit out of them.

  • yep the U.S won every land war in vietnam, but we still lost the vietnam war. the U.S vietnam war is equilvilant to the afghan soviet war. We also left vietnam because of the press.

  • I supported the war on Afghanistan. They were harboring bin Laden, who supposedly was responsible for 9/11, which I disagree with, but yet that was where they should have gone. The CIA tricked us into believing the WMD crap. We never did find them did we? No. Then it became Hussein. He's gone. Now it's to create stability. Look. Those people have been fighting thousands of years and will never stop. They just created a new Afghanistan after the USSR left. Now warlords and thugs will take over.

  • you cant say that hussein did not have wmds. he had the capabilities to make them, and had used them. dont believe the misconception that wmd means nuclear. it doesnt. it means nuclear, chemical, biological. Weapon of Mass Destruction. anything that will cause mass destruction. hmm, an airborne agent in nyc, sound pretty massive, doesnt it? resaerch saddams attempt of exterminating the Kurds. he used wmds. mustard gas.

  • @toddm160th I hate how Clinton and Gore got away with telling America that Saddam had WMD's. Look it up here on you tube and in their own speeches and press conferences they said he had WMD's long before Bush. If GWB lied, so did all others, and what's new?

  • sorry if we leave (all the sudden) the whole country would fall into a shit whole.

  • its not like there is a draft.. they choose to join..just like me

  • Hello and is unknown all know

    Stark might might not that might might lie may soon so maybe over the state of oracle would go to the house vote with their reward write the name bush eight billion dollars and a above the bedroom but the debate about the goals of this year!

  • last one is the best !

  • GO BIDEN!!!!

  • Damn Kucinich was talking directly to Obama about the issue

  • he's not that bad as with Ron Paul

  • Thats funny that you said that. I think Kucinich and Ron Paul are both insane. One is too far right, one is too far left. Oh well, it's good for entertainment.LOL Not to sound gay or anything, but I think Ron Paul is a cute old guy. I wish Mitt Romney was running for President with Barack Obama as his running mate........

  • Joe biden is an awesome debater

  • I'll agree with you on that. I'm a conservative, but Biden seems to be the most rational one on there. I hope Obama doesn't pick him as his running mate.LOL

  • Why are we in Iraq now? For what reason??!!

  • Protecting long term oil interests and multi-year contracts protecting our business interests.

  • So this is a pointless war then!

  • Cause ignorant people voited bush into the white house. -.-

  • although considering america was created for both idealogical and economic concerns, i guess protecting business is a bad thing right?

  • i suppose it's like stealing bread for your family. oh wait. no it's more like stealing bread for your prositution business

  • @SonnyTehN00b Obama is Bush lol 

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  • What do you do after you come inside the woman you love? WITHDRAW. I think the time to withdraw should of been a long time ago, but congress for some stupid reason prefers to leave their dicks inside as they fall asleep. Yeah, nobody else is feeling the vibe anymore. Its time to WITHDRAW YOU STUPID FUCKERS. HOW MANY MORE U.S. LIVES MUST IT TAKE? THEY DONT GIVE A SHIT HOW MANY. AS LONG AS ITS THEIR ASS THAT IS SAFE.

  • that was one of the strangest metaphors i've ever seen used about the war. but you have a good point haha

  • lol! I was pissed off that day. XD

  • Barack, hillary and Mccain are all CFR members that means they are bought and paid for.

  • if america votes for clinton or mccain. i guarantee u there will be other wars.

  • Mhm exactly

  • Well I think I like Obama simply because we are entering a new era and we need fresh ideas and bold tactics. A perfect example, we are trying to push laws to cut carbon emisssions but India and China who are not really involved in the Kyoto Treaty will produce far more carbon than the US,Europe or South America. The reality is we have to give clean air technology and help poor countries and painfully give money and incentives for them to use it if we want to stop carbon waste.

  • Hillary is a stupid moron

  • Good facts.

  • The only reason why America is in IRAQ is because Americans suck at geography. Show me an American that can find Afganistan on a Map and I'll show you somebody smarter that Bush.

  • anyone is smarter than bush lol

  • Better ask Miss South Carolina.

  • Rofl

  • Rofl

  • ahahahh excellent

  • FOlks im sorry that I agreed with "Bulldog8588"

    I NEVER AGREE WITH A LIBERAL............SO I TAKE BACK WHAT I SAID

  • If we were busting down that many civilians doors would not our liberal press be all over the topic?

  • i doubt the media has much tips on those - the military tries to keep that stuff on the d/l so they can try and do their job w/o interference (the two things the media can get in trouble for is direct intentional slander and threatening national security with war specifics)

    not to mention that these 'random bombings' threaten the media more arbitrarily then any other war

  • Well anyways Bulldog whatever, I'm going to bed. At least I know that I can sleep soundly because our wonderful President is keeping us safe. Sweet dreams you fuckin communist hippie....

  • Don't sleep too tight because in november our president will be pulling the troops.

  • Who are you to say how I spend my money? I give to charity. My family and I sponser children in other countries, and we make packages for people in Africa, we make care packages for the troops, and my parents even adopted my brother from Venezuela.

  • We are a very wealthy country, and we share our wealth with places like Iraq and Africa. Get it? We do everything we can for them. I mean, we are fighting a war to save the innocent Iraqis.

  • HAHAHAHA do you really think we are fighting a war to help Iraqis? WOW!! You are completely blind, oblivious, and delusional. Keep living in your bubble little girl.

  • Yeah I love shopping and money. So what? I give tons of it to charity. You know why? Because I am a conservative which means I care.

  • You have never given a dollar to charity little girl. Putting a penny in the McDonalds container doesn't count as charity. Conservatives are known as not caring for other, try reading little girl.

  • We are know for not giving illegal mexicans free houses and not giving fat lazy people free health care. we dont solve every little persons problems.

  • Liberals give illegals free houses? What an extremely ignorant comment.

  • An extremely True Comment!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Dont deny it

    If the troops get pulled out ill be laughing at seeing the world go to hell

  • I doubt you'll be laughing if the world is going to hell. You can thank Bush if it does.

  • why would i thank bush. if a Dem Prez pulls the troops out.

    Please Stop being a retard

  • If the troops get pulled out ill be laughing at seeing the world go to hell If America stops a useless war? Fighting an enemy that cannot be seen nor killed. Terrorism is an ideology, we can't win if we stay and we'll just go in more and more debt until we ultimately destroy ourselves. The world will go to hell if we stop killing people? It's that kind of thinking that will make the world go to hell. And everyone who thinks that way should do the same.

  • You just said what all liberals say, Ungrateful ass fuck. GO to iraq and become a terrorists so the Soldiers can kill you

  • we killed almost all of the terrorists years ago. We went to war and killed the enemy. now we're staying and busting down civilians doors. If foreign soldiers burst down your door with M16s wouldn't you pick up the AK in your closet?

  • "we killed almost all of the terrorists years ago"

    how on earth do u come up with this? nobody can know this man

  • that's true. We didn't kill even a small fraction of the world's terrorists. But we did neutralize the Iraqi military as well as the primary foot soldiers of Al Queda and other prominent terrorist forces within Iraq. I'm just saying we're killing fathers and sons who are trying to protect their homes.

  • bce is right. All we are fighting now are civilians who have fancied themselves some sort of loose, unattached "militia," if they can even be called that.

  • then wouldnt those civilians, now armed and with some vague motive, no longer be considered jsut civilians?

    doesnt matter either way - were causing more damage then good out there anyways :/

  • That's called a Militia. "Civilians at arms." Think of the classic redneck steroetype and him yelling "git off meh porch."

  • ha nice. well i think theyre still considered combatants - which if u think about it, since these militia men and the number of terrorist attacks/recruitment has gone up since weve declared this 'war' our offensive is actually pissin our 'iraqi friends' off and makin our enemies multiply in numbers

  • And I agree. We're fighting people who were not originally the people that we intended to fight against. They didn't have to be our enemies, if we withdrew earlier, then we wouldn't ahve this issue.

  • If u cant remember what u said Bulldog then u are a total retard

  • You say that he isn't doing anything, and then you turn around and argue with what you just said. Retard.

  • Bush hasn't stuck his neck out for Africa. Financial support for Africa has been going on for a very long time, well before Bush. Bush can take no credit for it. The help is very minimal either.

  • He has helped out more then u think. Even people in Africa say he doesnt get much credit

  • Okay but the point is he is helping. You are such a hypocrite.

  • Exactly how am I a hypocrite?

  • I bet u get beat up ALOT for correcting People.

  • I bet you will never be a successful member of society for sounding like an idiot.

  • Hypocritical is somebody like yourself that calls liberals selfish yet your profile talks about how much you love money and shopping.

  • How is that being selfish if she like money and shopping

  • Exactly!!!

  • he has given Africa loads of money. We send them supplies and food. Name one thing you have done for Africa. Nothing? Well then don't bitch about it.

  • Do not call me the stupid one, when you freakin used the word "stupider." Now that is idiocy. We never went over to Iraq for cheaper oil. We went over because we knew we had to help the people there. They were dying with or without us. If we leave, thousands more will die, and then our troops will have fought for nothing. Go to hell ou liberal fag.

  • Stupider is in the dictionary oh dumb one. Don't act like we are some savior of humanity. People in Africa are enduring genocides and a rate of death that exceeds twice that of Iraq. Why didn't we go "save" Africa? Because they don't have oil! Don't you understand that this war in not winnable? They will NEVER be happy with us occupying their country, NEVER. Not everything in life is as black and white as winning and losing.

  • Bush has done great things for africa but u refuse to believe that do you?

  • Name something great Bush has done for Africa....

  • Bush has also engaged his country into giving much needed humanitarian and logistical support to countries that are suffering conflicts that have led to massive displacements of people, rendering them in need of shelter, food and medication. In Darfur, DR Congo, Uganda and the Sudan, and other areas where violence has disintegrated communities, Bush has shown his desire to end such violent conflicts.

  • We give ALOT of money to Africa you retard.

  • We give "ALOT" of money? First off, a lot is two words retard. Second off, every president has been providing financial aid to Africa for hundreds of years. Bush didn't enact some great document to help Africa more.

  • Hes in africa right now you Hippie SHit.

  • Okay you are asking questions to yourself. I didn't say those things you idiot. So what if all but one Republican cadidate wants to pull out of Iraq? WHO THE HELL CARES? We are winning the war you fag. We have wiped out a major Al-Quaeda leader. He went from having over 200 following terrorsits to about ten. Get your facts straight you liberal hippie. It's repulsive to know how selfish people can be. And by people I mean liberals.

  • You're stupider than a pile of rocks little girl. You call liberals selfish yet you want to send troops to die for what? Cheaper oil? Terrorism can be eliminated without an occupation. The next president will pull our troops from Iraq, get used to it. A large majority of Americans are against the war in Iraq for a reason. Why would you accuse me of not having my facts straight when you have not refuted any facts of mine? You are not very smart, are you?

  • No we sent troops so save your ungrateful ass. There are Zero facts that this war is for oil there is plenty of oil in the U.S. but u Liberals wont let us drill cause it will supposedly hurt the earth. Were u sleeping on 9/11

  • There are also ZERO facts that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. Lies

  • The natural thing is to move the WMDS when the terrorists know we are coming to Iraq. Please go join the terrorists so our troops can blow your head off

  • If Biden makes VP, my life is complete.

  • Fuck the republicans for getting us in this mess

  • im an iraqi so america has to fix my country

    yeah its all the repulicans fault a bunch of iditos but what makes me angry is americans voted for bush 2 TIMES !

  • FUck your country

  • you must think so good of yourself dumbass you iggnorant asshole

  • learn to spell ignorant before you use the word, idiot.

  • how gives a shit my spelling will not change the fact that you are ignorant i don't why you would say something like what you said about my country why did americas come in america aren't they too busy enjoying their lives while the rest of the world starves

    there was no reason to invade iraq and you still fuked it up even more

    and plus my main language is arabic and im iraqi so shut the fuck up

  • Dude, I have no idea what you are trying to relate to me. You sound like a monkey.

  • Even though i think Bulldog8588 is a fag,But hes right Fuck your muslim ass and fuck your country

  • You are an idiot gorelle. No one is kicking as IN iraq. They are trying to help people that hurt us. Anyway the only reason why we are at war because we had an IDIOT like yourself in office, George Bush.

  • You make absolutely no sense gorelle.... try getting an education before you open your mouth

  • How do I not make any sense? It is a fact that the U.S is winnning in Iraq. You can't even use correct punctuation. And I'm the one that needs an education? I go to a top dollar school. You probably go to a nasty public school. Why don't you just go back to smoking weed in your ghetto.

  • Go back and read your post. "All dems are idiots...we will pull out and Iraq qill attack us because we will be vulnerable". A top dollar school? You better get your money back because you sound like an idiot. Your logic has a ton of fallacies. You use terms like "dems" and you're telling me to go to the ghetto? Get a clue, thug.

  • I'm not the one that needs to get a clue. It's idiots like you that hold our country back. If you don't like it, get the hell out. We would do so much better if you just left. I don't expect you to know what is going on in the world. You just listen to your liberal hippie parents. Let me guess, you're voting for Obama? Why don't you go to a place where someone or something cares about you. No one here does.

  • No one cares about me? #1 The next president will be a liberal. #2 It was a clean sweep of liberals during the last election. So tell me, who is the minority? You are. All but one republican candidate wants to pull out of Iraq. You are in a tiny minority little girl. Holds our country back from what? An imperialist inhumane country? The last country to have that agenda was a Nazi Germany. Nazi.

  • Your small limited mind can't see the big picture. We are not "winning" the war. The War was won several years ago but radicalism will infest that country until the occupation is over. If you consider "winning" peace, it's nothing but a pipe dream. Death and violence is embedded deep in that area. Our troops are dying for an unattainable goal. We're doing nothing but sending our young men to die.

  • Hillary voted for the War!!

    Hillary voted for the Patriot Act!!!

    Hillary Voted to keep Nuclear Weapons option for Iran!!!

    Hillary Wants to raise taxes!!!

    Hillary is a member of the CFR!!!

    Do the Research---->

    YouTube:

    Ron Paul A New Hope

  • Hillary voted to give Bush the power to decide.... do your research jack ass

  • VOTE OBAMA yes we can!!!

  • All of you who are backing Obama, Clinton, etc. because they withdraw troops...you are uninformed. What they tell you is they'll get 'em out fast! What they won't talk alot about is after they pull them out of Iraq, they'll stick them in Iran or Pakistan! You can't call yourself a peace advocate if you plan on doing the same thing in another country, that's not how it works.

    And please...we will NEVER get the job done in Iraq. It's civil war, it won't end until we're out.

  • Absolutely right man!!

  • 100% correct

  • Nice assumption are you a fortune teller who can see what obama and clinton will due. How are those lottery tickets working for you. Thanks for the future telling

  • Obama said military action against Pakistan is one of the first things he'll do once he reaches office, because he claims Bin Laden's there.

    Hilary voted for the war bill to bomb Iran.

    Connect the dots dumb ass.

  • Obama also said diplomacy first nice assumption. Nice assumption that obama is just like bush.

    But I'll agree on the flip flop Hilary!

  • He said he would use diplomacy with Syria, Iran, and North Korea. Do ANY of those sound like Pakistan?

    Here, for your viewing pleasure

    /watch?v=uIum0o-_LZk

    Go to the last video called: "Barack Obama -- 2009 Pakistan War"

  • Thanks for the link, saw it and did not see where he said for sure he would attack pakistan. He does however he says with intelligence.

    Maybe you should think about about what he's says most of the time about being careful, and considering how against the war in Iraq I doubt he will just wage war on day 1.

    I see it was just a Ron Paul video though! Which is cool because Ron Paul is great except for healthcare.

  • Threatening a country with military action on the bases of POSSIBLE terrorism is not the same as "We'll go in with intelligence". Sorry, but even if he withdrawed ALL the troops immediately, he's just going to throw them at a country with 15 nuclear warheads.

  • And what's wrong with his stance on Universal healthcare? He's right. We're 9 trillion in debt, and wasting billions more a year. We can't afford it at the moment.

  • Sorry he believes that free market is appropriate for health care, and believes that us Canadians hate socialize medicine and travel to the U.S. for healthcare. I just don't agree with company based healthcare where their goal is to make a profit and helping people is comes behind that.

    Plus he doesn't really say anything but not mandating it. So poor people can get sick and die because the can't afford too buy it.

  • For the first part, wrong. He didn't say they travel here for healthcare. Secondly, free market healthcare creates a competition of buisness over medications. That means low prices, and no monopoly on our drugs. Not the same as "Sick and die".

    Know why Canada, Switzerland, and other European country's can afford universal healthcare? Because they aren't 9 trillion in debt and wasting tons of money a year on a pointless conflict.