God i am white with dark features and ginger beard with freakles and both of my parents are Iranian.....and people keep thinkin i am either Irish or Scotish,French I am Iranian deal with it bitches xD
Es un dato curioso, sabías que la palabra 'ario' procede de las invasiones realizadas por escitas y celtas a la India y a Persia? Y de que los Sha de Persia reclamaran el título 'Luz de los arios'? Qué datos tan curiosos!
I was under the impression that Carthage was built during the Phonecian Age, aka before the sea people, but the video seems to suggest Carthage was constructed a couple of hundred years later. Help plz? :)
@ThievingFox The traditional date for the founding of Carthage itself is the late 9th century BC (with 814BC being one proposed date). However, there were almost certainly other phoenician settlements and colonies in the area prior to the founding of Carthage itself, so this may the origin of the confusion.
Relatively recent scholarship has claimed that about 725BC would be a more probable date, but 814BC remains the most widely used date for the founding of the city.
@Historyisthekey So would it fair to argue that Carthage may have been constructed earlier, but took a hundred years or so to become the dominant power in the region?
@ThievingFox Yes, but you have to be careful with terminology. I would disagree with the statement "Carthage may have been constructed earlier", as the city itself does not appear to have been founded until the late 9th century bc at the earliest. However, it is likely, as you are hinting at, that nearby Phoenician settlemments existed earlier and that their inhabitants eventually joined the city after it was established.
@shaidar23haran The Roman Republic was an Empire. The definition of the two, contrary to popular belief, are not opposed. Technically, it should use a possessive on the Roman Republic (Roman Republic's Empire).
Republic - a political structure whereby, through elected representation or direct contribution, the citizens have authority over matters of state.
Empire - An extensive group of states/countries which are under the coontrol of a single government.
Turks don't want to take steps to be on good terms with us.Two nations living so close to each other and have so much incommon,must look back 100 years,and see what caused hostility between them.We Armenians know the reason...
In Fact the Neo Elamite kingdom and Persians were a part of Median empire, and used to pay tribute, that is how Astyages (Kurdish:Azhi-dahak) gave his daughter Princess Mandana to Kambyses the father of the HALF Persian prince, Cyrus, and Cyrus grew up and did a revolution against his Kurdish grandfather and the army generals and noble tribes stood by him. That is how Achaemenid empire which was a combination of Kurds and Achemenid Persians, got created! Without wars, invasions...
let me continue the vedio from the end . after that the islam came from the arabian pensual and defeated the roman and persian empire and take over from south of france untile west of china
why don't you put that , or it seems you ignore the facts that you don't like
@enigmaticcheers Please read the subject of the video. Ancient history is defined as spanning prehistory until the fall of the western roman empire in 476AD. All of the events you are talking about occurred in the Middle Ages, hence they were not in the video. It has nothing to do with me 'ignoring facts I don't like', it is simply because I set out to create a timeline of the ancient period.
You should consider that videos such as these take a lot of time and effort to make, extending the video to cover the middle ages would not be an easy task and would also involve going outwith my area of expertise; i.e. ancient history.
also would've liked to see mentiosn of the Harappan civilization shown on the map. it is a little bit east of where this is shown but it was contemporary and traded with the early egyptian and mesopotamian civilizations. Sumerian city states existed from before 4000BC (Eridu, Uruk, Ur, etc.) and Phoenicia was still around during the Persian Empire, which it was a part of (we have references of this from Herodotus). Besides that this is great I wish there was a more detailed version of it
@Blaxraptor I'm currently planning a new edition of this video with greater detail (including smaller time incremements from frame to frame), greater clarity in the maps and, possibly, an expansion of the area covered by the video - this is the main reason I'm keeping a close eye on the feedback so I see what people would like to see.
So, I take it that you would like the 2nd edition to include an expansion of the map to cover further to the East?
@Historyisthekey Yeah, especially the indus valley because it has a long history of civilization and is connected to the areas covered already. Good to hear that there's a second version coming!
I will try to include the Indus valley in the next edition (it's currently planned to be made for late January). I might have to change the title though considering there was even criticism of my decision to include the North African Coast and most of the Middle East in this one.
@xWHITExEAGLEx YEah, i'm actually Scottish. It was just laziness that prohibited the inclusion of Northern Britain. I'll sort it in the 2nd edition. I don't when I'll be able to start, however. Time is difficult to comeby.
@KasiKeEsmDare Firstly, those maps do not look very accuarte to me. Secondly, a map is only as good asit's sources and it's author - if you are seeking to prove/disprove any aspect of a map it requires historical artifacts, another map doesn't achieve anything.
Finally, as evidence of Carthaginian independence (and they're dominion over Sicily, Sardinia and the North African Coast), please refer to the 509BC treaty signed between the Carthaginian Empire and the Roman Republic.
@KasiKeEsmDare No they did not. By that point the Carthaginians had formed an empire out of the various Phoenician colonies in the western Mediterranean basin. Whilst phoenicia was assimilated by the advancing Persian Empire, their colonies were not.
I don't know where you got the impression that the Persian Empire advanced past Libya, but I'd suggest that you should perhaps have another look at the subject.
Right up to before the birth of Islam. Youtube needs a full comprehensive map INCLUDING the Islamic golden age, age of exploration, colonialism, sikes picot agreement, World war 1 and 2, cold war and present u.s. domination!
2. Armenia is not the civilization which remained until nowadays. Todays Armenian's are HAYS whose are another late ethnic group wich named themselves great armenians :D
★The U.S.A and the rest of the Western Civilization. is runned by Big, Rich, Selfish, Disorder&Death bringing, Corrupt Banks and Oil Titans.. While we work our asses out for Materials we dont need, Death and Destruction goes to the (Middle)-East.. 70% of the World Population is Unaware or in Willfull denail of is. Really Sad
Our very system of Life is a tragic thing to see...
'you can fool some people all of the time'
'but you cannot fool all of the people all of the time!
I believe Western civilization begins with the Minoans, not with Sumerians and other asiatics or Egyptians. They influenced but they are not connected to what became the West, the ultimate fruition being democratic Athens. From which the modern West derives it's proper birth, the minoan and Mycaenean Greeks being a sort of embryonic stage.
@ImaginedWriter there are only three different civilization groupings that may be described as having developed independently - these being the western civilizations, the eastern civilizations and the civilizations of the Americas.
Western civilizations did develop from the 'fertile crsecent' - a point which is easily shown by your mentioning of the Minoans. The Minoans were essentially the fruits of extensive trade and communication with the Egyptians, Sumerians...
...and other cities and cultures inhabiting the modern middle east. This can well demonstrated through the archaological finds on Crete dating fromt his time period - there are trade items that were first seen in Egypt etc as well as building styles that wer eindependent but showed similarities to the already established construction methods elswhere - moreover, evidence of early forms of linear A symbols have been found in Egypt. Inshort, there were extensive links between the Minoans and...
@Historyisthekey Trade links do not necessarily mean the same culture otherwise Saudi Arabia could be said to be part of Western civilization simply because they have Mcdonalds, furthermore the idea of east and West derives from the Greco-Persian wars. The Minoans were a first flourishing of a proto greece therefore they can be brought into the discussion about the origins of the west. But the true birth is with the greek peoples after the dark age. The city states have little to do with sumeria
@ImaginedWriter XD very ppor example. It's what the trade links represent. Yes we trade with Saudi Arabia but people throughout history have traded far mroe extensively with those of similar cultures, languages, ethnicities etc purely for the reason that greater cultural ties tend to lead to increased business links (it can also work in the reverse, given time).
ALso, the Minoans are a society dominated by trade and mercantilism, to say that the cities with which they traded most...
...extensively are somehow far less intrinsic in their cultural identity when compared to the Mycenaeans and other inhabitants of the Greek islands and mainland seems to lack reason - particularly because there is little to link the Minoans to the Mycenaeans - although there are links between the Mycenaeans and the Minoans. The Mycenaeans adopted a similar palatial governance structure, but they did so after the Minoans. So to look for the origin of the Minoans' culture, you must look to Egypt
...the civilizations of the middle east. For this reason to say that the Minoans are western civilizations and the others are not would be absurd, given that the Minoans appear to have been, economically and culturally speaking, as close to the Egyptians as they were to the cultures of the then prehistoric Greece. It's for these reasons that the video includes the middle east.
The traditional date for classical Greece is 510BC - when the last tyrranical government form was overthrown in Athens.
@Historyisthekey I know what the date for classical greece is, the minoans and the Mycenaean were an embryonic stage of Greek development, most of their influence was lost during the greek dark age. So their influence was not as direct as you make out, you can't say they are Western with the same authority as you can do so with the athenians. They merely have a geographic and genetic link to them (classical greece).
And Eastern civilization is not a real term, India, China, Mesopotamia, Egypt..
@ImaginedWriter ..all had independent births of civilization. The Egyptian culture was very different to the sinic culture. Saying they are one and the same is insulting and typical orientalist talk.
Just because they are on the same continent does not mean they are part of the same civilization. Some civilizations can have their borders overlap, this happens in the case of empire.
I never said that 'Eastern Civilization' was a term - I said 'Eastern Civilizations' was a valid grouping including all those east of and including India.
Look, I can see your here on a very high horse, and I'd hate to cause a fall, so here's the deal - you criticised my decision to include the middle east and the north african coast in this video. I gave my reasoning for doing so, we're done.
@PhilosophyAtWork you're entirely correct. We will be producing a 2nd edition of this video soon - this will eliminate the various oversights that have been thrown up in this one and (hopefully) allow for a slicker finished video.
Interesting map. But you probably forgot the Slavs. They existed long before 800 or 900 ad, isn't it? The "Scythian-Farmers" of Herodotus were most likely the proto-Slavs.
@mrplease66 well spotted, I will be starting a mark II of this video in about 3 weeks time, hopefully completing it within a couple weeks of that time. There are several issues like this need addressing as well as a few clerical errors that I made, I also hope to add more frames so that the transitions are more gradual.
@cbluver22 actually western civilization was born out of the cultures that developed in the Middle East and Asia Minor, which then influenced and played an integral part to later western development. The modern boundaries of western civilization do not apply when you are tracing it's roots.
@cbluver22 actually, no it doesn't. The 'west' refers to the cultural and historical civilizations that developed in and around the mediterranean basin before spreading into central europe and then (with the advent of colonialism) into the Americas and Australia etc.
You cannot apply modern political and cultural boundaries to historical events - they simply don't apply.
@MagnusRulerHardt well that is not an exceptionally simple task given the sheer number. In something like this there are a panoply of sources, most of which are regarding one small aspect of each of the maps you see as frames. If you are dubious about any part and are looking for confirmation I'll find the sources used for that part but to furnish all sources would be very heavy handed.
@MagnusRulerHardt although, I could send you a sheet with all the sources if you like, but it will take longer to compile and would have to be sent via email. If you'd rather that then just say so.
Awesome video! It shows just how many different empires/tribes/civilisations there was! It's good to see the roman empire growing but it's not when it gets divided and when the western empire is just completely took over by a lot of familiar faces. But at least the eastern empire lasted until 1457 - or around that time - and just incase you are wondering they changed in to the Byzantine empire.
ugh i just get sad for some reason when i see the romans taking most of europe its soo epic nothing can surpass them but i got more sad when i saw the empire devivded
@worldofpaul12 The Mongols surpassed the Romans, even the 3rd Reich surpassed Germany if you include territory occupied by them and their allies, rather than actual territory that was annexed into the GGR.
@PkayerZxz2 ya but i am talking about the ancient-medeival stuff and the mongols empire like shattered after 5 seconds it was formed [ its an exxageration not disrespecting the mongols']
@worldofpaul12 Well, If you consider the population of Mongolia along with the size of the empire. I'd say around 150 years of the worlds second largest empire is a pretty good achievement.
co ja pacze?:D pozdro dla POLAKÓW:D
maciek6571 2 days ago
for every clip of wars being fought in historical videos and books they need to show a woman giving birth otherwise it's bunk
llel11 3 days ago
God i am white with dark features and ginger beard with freakles and both of my parents are Iranian.....and people keep thinkin i am either Irish or Scotish,French I am Iranian deal with it bitches xD
farzinfarzad 4 days ago
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Even the Germanics and Slavics are traced to the Indo - Iranians.
Natalie85101 1 week ago
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this is 0 education with regards to civilization and I see from your comments that you are pretty bored...
...ready for the heavy-weight stuff?
search for
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in order to receive education with regards to civilization...
stop paying attention to fake stuff and find out who you are and where you are coming from...
CGVivid 1 week ago
Funny the Scythians and Celts were Indo - Iranian peoples.
Now they day and night, racially degrade Iranians and claim their lands and history.
Natalie85101 1 week ago
Es un dato curioso, sabías que la palabra 'ario' procede de las invasiones realizadas por escitas y celtas a la India y a Persia? Y de que los Sha de Persia reclamaran el título 'Luz de los arios'? Qué datos tan curiosos!
Komnenit 4 days ago
I was under the impression that Carthage was built during the Phonecian Age, aka before the sea people, but the video seems to suggest Carthage was constructed a couple of hundred years later. Help plz? :)
ThievingFox 1 week ago
@ThievingFox The traditional date for the founding of Carthage itself is the late 9th century BC (with 814BC being one proposed date). However, there were almost certainly other phoenician settlements and colonies in the area prior to the founding of Carthage itself, so this may the origin of the confusion.
Relatively recent scholarship has claimed that about 725BC would be a more probable date, but 814BC remains the most widely used date for the founding of the city.
Historyisthekey 1 week ago
@Historyisthekey So would it fair to argue that Carthage may have been constructed earlier, but took a hundred years or so to become the dominant power in the region?
ThievingFox 1 week ago
@ThievingFox Yes, but you have to be careful with terminology. I would disagree with the statement "Carthage may have been constructed earlier", as the city itself does not appear to have been founded until the late 9th century bc at the earliest. However, it is likely, as you are hinting at, that nearby Phoenician settlemments existed earlier and that their inhabitants eventually joined the city after it was established.
Historyisthekey 1 week ago
Roman Republic Empire?!?!? WTF?!
shaidar23haran 2 weeks ago
@shaidar23haran The Roman Republic was an Empire. The definition of the two, contrary to popular belief, are not opposed. Technically, it should use a possessive on the Roman Republic (Roman Republic's Empire).
Republic - a political structure whereby, through elected representation or direct contribution, the citizens have authority over matters of state.
Empire - An extensive group of states/countries which are under the coontrol of a single government.
I hope this helps.
Historyisthekey 2 weeks ago
Turks don't want to take steps to be on good terms with us.Two nations living so close to each other and have so much incommon,must look back 100 years,and see what caused hostility between them.We Armenians know the reason...
001Armenio 2 weeks ago
What about the Kindom of Urartu?
001Armenio 2 weeks ago
@001Armenio It's the country marked as 'the kingdom of Urartu' spanning the 9th century to 6th century BC - approx. What about it?
Historyisthekey 2 weeks ago
@Historyisthekey Sorry I should have watched it in high quality.
001Armenio 2 weeks ago
@001Armenio no problem.
Historyisthekey 2 weeks ago
@001Armenio Can't feel your pain but we know about your old Armenian heritage, May have fought wars with us Persians but never hated each other ;)
MrAfreeworld 2 weeks ago
@MrAfreeworld Yeah that's true,now we are on good terms with Iran too:)
001Armenio 2 weeks ago
@001Armenio Too bad you guys can't be on good terms with the Turks!!! :(
chukwuemeka23456 2 weeks ago
If a liberal saw this video he would call it racist.
NewRome101 2 weeks ago
In Fact the Neo Elamite kingdom and Persians were a part of Median empire, and used to pay tribute, that is how Astyages (Kurdish:Azhi-dahak) gave his daughter Princess Mandana to Kambyses the father of the HALF Persian prince, Cyrus, and Cyrus grew up and did a revolution against his Kurdish grandfather and the army generals and noble tribes stood by him. That is how Achaemenid empire which was a combination of Kurds and Achemenid Persians, got created! Without wars, invasions...
xOxKurdParstxOx 1 month ago
Very beautiful
xOxKurdParstxOx 1 month ago
MY BELOVEDDDDDDD Median Empire, First Aryan Empire on EARTH.Long live Kurd long live Kurdistan, Long live national father Cyaxares
xOxKurdParstxOx 1 month ago
let me continue the vedio from the end . after that the islam came from the arabian pensual and defeated the roman and persian empire and take over from south of france untile west of china
why don't you put that , or it seems you ignore the facts that you don't like
lol
enigmaticcheers 1 month ago
@enigmaticcheers they all do the same
TheClaycreatures 1 month ago
@enigmaticcheers Please read the subject of the video. Ancient history is defined as spanning prehistory until the fall of the western roman empire in 476AD. All of the events you are talking about occurred in the Middle Ages, hence they were not in the video. It has nothing to do with me 'ignoring facts I don't like', it is simply because I set out to create a timeline of the ancient period.
Historyisthekey 1 month ago
@enigmaticcheers 'why don't you put that'
You should consider that videos such as these take a lot of time and effort to make, extending the video to cover the middle ages would not be an easy task and would also involve going outwith my area of expertise; i.e. ancient history.
Historyisthekey 1 month ago
also would've liked to see mentiosn of the Harappan civilization shown on the map. it is a little bit east of where this is shown but it was contemporary and traded with the early egyptian and mesopotamian civilizations. Sumerian city states existed from before 4000BC (Eridu, Uruk, Ur, etc.) and Phoenicia was still around during the Persian Empire, which it was a part of (we have references of this from Herodotus). Besides that this is great I wish there was a more detailed version of it
Blaxraptor 2 months ago
@Blaxraptor I'm currently planning a new edition of this video with greater detail (including smaller time incremements from frame to frame), greater clarity in the maps and, possibly, an expansion of the area covered by the video - this is the main reason I'm keeping a close eye on the feedback so I see what people would like to see.
So, I take it that you would like the 2nd edition to include an expansion of the map to cover further to the East?
Historyisthekey 2 months ago
@Historyisthekey Yeah, especially the indus valley because it has a long history of civilization and is connected to the areas covered already. Good to hear that there's a second version coming!
Blaxraptor 2 months ago
@Blaxraptor Thank you very much for the support.
I will try to include the Indus valley in the next edition (it's currently planned to be made for late January). I might have to change the title though considering there was even criticism of my decision to include the North African Coast and most of the Middle East in this one.
Historyisthekey 2 months ago
@Historyisthekey Please go a bit farther north so Scotland is in it, I know we don't really do much but I hate how it's cut off haha.
xWHITExEAGLEx 3 weeks ago
@xWHITExEAGLEx YEah, i'm actually Scottish. It was just laziness that prohibited the inclusion of Northern Britain. I'll sort it in the 2nd edition. I don't when I'll be able to start, however. Time is difficult to comeby.
Historyisthekey 3 weeks ago
---> (+h.t.t.p://w.w.w)balagan.org.uk/war/world-maps.htm there '500BCE' and u can see
KasiKeEsmDare 2 months ago
@KasiKeEsmDare Firstly, those maps do not look very accuarte to me. Secondly, a map is only as good asit's sources and it's author - if you are seeking to prove/disprove any aspect of a map it requires historical artifacts, another map doesn't achieve anything.
Finally, as evidence of Carthaginian independence (and they're dominion over Sicily, Sardinia and the North African Coast), please refer to the 509BC treaty signed between the Carthaginian Empire and the Roman Republic.
Historyisthekey 2 months ago
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The countries in white 2:32 they belong to the persian empire! and they line is longer at the north african coast
KasiKeEsmDare 2 months ago
@KasiKeEsmDare No they did not. By that point the Carthaginians had formed an empire out of the various Phoenician colonies in the western Mediterranean basin. Whilst phoenicia was assimilated by the advancing Persian Empire, their colonies were not.
I don't know where you got the impression that the Persian Empire advanced past Libya, but I'd suggest that you should perhaps have another look at the subject.
Hope this clears things up for you.
Historyisthekey 2 months ago
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KasiKeEsmDare 2 months ago
@darnjack0roll haha ur brainwashed bro. why u hatin'
Azamspazam91 2 months ago
cool video. hope its updated soon to fix some discrepancies
Blaxraptor 2 months ago
Right up to before the birth of Islam. Youtube needs a full comprehensive map INCLUDING the Islamic golden age, age of exploration, colonialism, sikes picot agreement, World war 1 and 2, cold war and present u.s. domination!
Azamspazam91 2 months ago
@Azamspazam91 nopody cares about the pedophile mohammad and his heretic religion
darnjack0roll 2 months ago
1. There were no armenia in that size :D
2. Armenia is not the civilization which remained until nowadays. Todays Armenian's are HAYS whose are another late ethnic group wich named themselves great armenians :D
NadirJT 3 months ago
illyria forever
MrLenntI 3 months ago
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★The U.S.A and the rest of the Western Civilization. is runned by Big, Rich, Selfish, Disorder&Death bringing, Corrupt Banks and Oil Titans.. While we work our asses out for Materials we dont need, Death and Destruction goes to the (Middle)-East.. 70% of the World Population is Unaware or in Willfull denail of is. Really Sad
Our very system of Life is a tragic thing to see...
'you can fool some people all of the time'
'but you cannot fool all of the people all of the time!
Anonymous.
LikaPyramid 3 months ago
Archaic Greece but then no Classical Greece which begins around 500BC?
ImaginedWriter 3 months ago
I believe Western civilization begins with the Minoans, not with Sumerians and other asiatics or Egyptians. They influenced but they are not connected to what became the West, the ultimate fruition being democratic Athens. From which the modern West derives it's proper birth, the minoan and Mycaenean Greeks being a sort of embryonic stage.
ImaginedWriter 3 months ago
@ImaginedWriter there are only three different civilization groupings that may be described as having developed independently - these being the western civilizations, the eastern civilizations and the civilizations of the Americas.
Western civilizations did develop from the 'fertile crsecent' - a point which is easily shown by your mentioning of the Minoans. The Minoans were essentially the fruits of extensive trade and communication with the Egyptians, Sumerians...
Historyisthekey 3 months ago
...and other cities and cultures inhabiting the modern middle east. This can well demonstrated through the archaological finds on Crete dating fromt his time period - there are trade items that were first seen in Egypt etc as well as building styles that wer eindependent but showed similarities to the already established construction methods elswhere - moreover, evidence of early forms of linear A symbols have been found in Egypt. Inshort, there were extensive links between the Minoans and...
Historyisthekey 3 months ago
@Historyisthekey Trade links do not necessarily mean the same culture otherwise Saudi Arabia could be said to be part of Western civilization simply because they have Mcdonalds, furthermore the idea of east and West derives from the Greco-Persian wars. The Minoans were a first flourishing of a proto greece therefore they can be brought into the discussion about the origins of the west. But the true birth is with the greek peoples after the dark age. The city states have little to do with sumeria
ImaginedWriter 3 months ago
@ImaginedWriter XD very ppor example. It's what the trade links represent. Yes we trade with Saudi Arabia but people throughout history have traded far mroe extensively with those of similar cultures, languages, ethnicities etc purely for the reason that greater cultural ties tend to lead to increased business links (it can also work in the reverse, given time).
ALso, the Minoans are a society dominated by trade and mercantilism, to say that the cities with which they traded most...
Historyisthekey 3 months ago
...extensively are somehow far less intrinsic in their cultural identity when compared to the Mycenaeans and other inhabitants of the Greek islands and mainland seems to lack reason - particularly because there is little to link the Minoans to the Mycenaeans - although there are links between the Mycenaeans and the Minoans. The Mycenaeans adopted a similar palatial governance structure, but they did so after the Minoans. So to look for the origin of the Minoans' culture, you must look to Egypt
Historyisthekey 3 months ago
...the civilizations of the middle east. For this reason to say that the Minoans are western civilizations and the others are not would be absurd, given that the Minoans appear to have been, economically and culturally speaking, as close to the Egyptians as they were to the cultures of the then prehistoric Greece. It's for these reasons that the video includes the middle east.
The traditional date for classical Greece is 510BC - when the last tyrranical government form was overthrown in Athens.
Historyisthekey 3 months ago
@Historyisthekey I know what the date for classical greece is, the minoans and the Mycenaean were an embryonic stage of Greek development, most of their influence was lost during the greek dark age. So their influence was not as direct as you make out, you can't say they are Western with the same authority as you can do so with the athenians. They merely have a geographic and genetic link to them (classical greece).
And Eastern civilization is not a real term, India, China, Mesopotamia, Egypt..
ImaginedWriter 3 months ago
@ImaginedWriter ..all had independent births of civilization. The Egyptian culture was very different to the sinic culture. Saying they are one and the same is insulting and typical orientalist talk.
Just because they are on the same continent does not mean they are part of the same civilization. Some civilizations can have their borders overlap, this happens in the case of empire.
ImaginedWriter 3 months ago
@ImaginedWriter well why did you put a question mark then?
I never said that 'Eastern Civilization' was a term - I said 'Eastern Civilizations' was a valid grouping including all those east of and including India.
Look, I can see your here on a very high horse, and I'd hate to cause a fall, so here's the deal - you criticised my decision to include the middle east and the north african coast in this video. I gave my reasoning for doing so, we're done.
Historyisthekey 3 months ago
You got Upper and Lower Egypt mixed up. Upper Egypt is the one to the south, named for its higher elevation alongside the Nile.
PhilosophyAtWork 4 months ago
@PhilosophyAtWork you're entirely correct. We will be producing a 2nd edition of this video soon - this will eliminate the various oversights that have been thrown up in this one and (hopefully) allow for a slicker finished video.
Historyisthekey 4 months ago
Great Video !!!
IllyriPower 5 months ago
Interesting map. But you probably forgot the Slavs. They existed long before 800 or 900 ad, isn't it? The "Scythian-Farmers" of Herodotus were most likely the proto-Slavs.
Good work anyway.
AtollRu 5 months ago
pretty cool. You forgot the Balearic Islands falling to Rome in 123BCE under Quintus Caecilius Metellus. But other than that it's a good illustration
mrplease66 8 months ago
@mrplease66 well spotted, I will be starting a mark II of this video in about 3 weeks time, hopefully completing it within a couple weeks of that time. There are several issues like this need addressing as well as a few clerical errors that I made, I also hope to add more frames so that the transitions are more gradual.
Historyisthekey 8 months ago
Egypt and the Middle East should not be part of "Western" Civilization.
cbluver22 8 months ago
@cbluver22 actually western civilization was born out of the cultures that developed in the Middle East and Asia Minor, which then influenced and played an integral part to later western development. The modern boundaries of western civilization do not apply when you are tracing it's roots.
Historyisthekey 8 months ago
@cbluver22 how come?
MegaVladimir1988 4 months ago
@MegaVladimir1988
B/c the "West" refers to Europe only, NOT Africa or the Middle East.
cbluver22 4 months ago
@cbluver22 actually, no it doesn't. The 'west' refers to the cultural and historical civilizations that developed in and around the mediterranean basin before spreading into central europe and then (with the advent of colonialism) into the Americas and Australia etc.
You cannot apply modern political and cultural boundaries to historical events - they simply don't apply.
Historyisthekey 4 months ago
I want to know your sources
MagnusRulerHardt 9 months ago
@MagnusRulerHardt well that is not an exceptionally simple task given the sheer number. In something like this there are a panoply of sources, most of which are regarding one small aspect of each of the maps you see as frames. If you are dubious about any part and are looking for confirmation I'll find the sources used for that part but to furnish all sources would be very heavy handed.
Historyisthekey 9 months ago
@MagnusRulerHardt although, I could send you a sheet with all the sources if you like, but it will take longer to compile and would have to be sent via email. If you'd rather that then just say so.
Historyisthekey 9 months ago
@Historyisthekey
I'm good
MagnusRulerHardt 9 months ago
@MagnusRulerHardt sorry if I've not been much help
Historyisthekey 9 months ago
This is really good !!!!!!!!!!!
gjlopeman 11 months ago
@gjlopeman glad you enjoyed it
Historyisthekey 11 months ago
Look at Armenia's location.
Theyr'e Surrounded by other civilisations, and yet they still live today :)
God bless Armenia :)
youthoghtiwasdead 1 year ago
@youthoghtiwasdead And God bless their Duduk flutes!
Hyland0r 10 months ago
Awesome video! It shows just how many different empires/tribes/civilisations there was! It's good to see the roman empire growing but it's not when it gets divided and when the western empire is just completely took over by a lot of familiar faces. But at least the eastern empire lasted until 1457 - or around that time - and just incase you are wondering they changed in to the Byzantine empire.
TheVidMaker99 1 year ago
Nice video guy's
TheByzantineEmpire 1 year ago
nice video
Cliathairi 1 year ago
this is soo cool i wanna help
worldofpaul12 1 year ago
ugh i just get sad for some reason when i see the romans taking most of europe its soo epic nothing can surpass them but i got more sad when i saw the empire devivded
worldofpaul12 1 year ago
@worldofpaul12 Yeah it was pretty epic, nothing lasts forever, however.
Hyland0r 1 year ago
@Hyland0r ya iknow but we jus gotta move on ....
worldofpaul12 1 year ago
@worldofpaul12 The Mongols surpassed the Romans, even the 3rd Reich surpassed Germany if you include territory occupied by them and their allies, rather than actual territory that was annexed into the GGR.
PkayerZxz2 1 year ago
@PkayerZxz2 ya but i am talking about the ancient-medeival stuff and the mongols empire like shattered after 5 seconds it was formed [ its an exxageration not disrespecting the mongols']
worldofpaul12 1 year ago
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Malusregnum 1 year ago
@worldofpaul12 Well, If you consider the population of Mongolia along with the size of the empire. I'd say around 150 years of the worlds second largest empire is a pretty good achievement.
Malusregnum 1 year ago
@Malusregnum lol ya i guess i can agree on that
worldofpaul12 1 year ago
@Malusregnum Was the Mongol empire formed later than this timeline?
optimisticbabe 11 months ago
@optimisticbabe Yer, it wasn't for around another 1000 years the Mongol empire would form. I might make a map about the Mongol Empire
Malusregnum 11 months ago
Nice vid.
PkayerZxz2 1 year ago
same way there were Iberians in the Causasus, yes.
Historyisthekey 1 year ago
So Albania used to be on the coast of the the Caspian sea?
TheFaceofWisdom 1 year ago