I have to say; I've watched every WML episode several times, and I DO think that the panelists are often given a head's up as to who the guest is. The way Arlene brings up the "Mohammed" bit before she says "Cassius Clay". I think it was planned that way to avoid offending him. I could be wrong, but my intuition tells me I'm correct.
I've noticed in a lot of the WML shows that they sometimes inexplicably guess people quickly & then another panelist will mention the star's current movie etc
@angelzap100 Your intuition is correct. I just finished reading an article in which the host of the show once told reporters long after the show canceled that the contestants knew who the celebrity was by simply hearing through word of mouth that they were in town or reading that they would be in town that day for a promotion of an album, movie, or in this case, a fight.
@GhostOfBugsy how old you are 10? what the fuck you're talking about didn't u see they signed Muhammad Ali you idiot and why would he go to that fake war when the real war was inside america whites against blacks aka the civil rights movement read a book dumb ass
@MIZIKE69 Ali did take an antiwar stance, and his conversion to Islam was wrapped up with his opinions about the war. He made sure that was known. He took some heat at the time for declaring himself as a CO.
@MIZIKE69 I got into a fucking debate once. Some idiot said that doggy is way better than mish, but had no evidence at all to back his statement up. Well, I can tell you, I came out on top that time.
Muhammad Ali was the first black person that was permitted not to have to fit into a stereotype of what a black person "should be;" Ali made himself over almost as much as Madonna has and the younger sportswriters of the time found him to be a real relief and joy this way.
By contrast, an old-timer such as Jimmy Cannon (on Joe Louis, "He was a credit to his race; the human race") didn't quite know what to make of him.
His fight with Floyd Patterson in November 1965 in Las Vegas ended up being a TKO for him. However, in March 1966 in Toronto, he went the full 15 rounds against George Chuvalo, one of his toughest opponents he ever faced, where he got a unanimous decision. He would face Chuvalo again in another tough fight in Vancouver in 1972, where he got yet another unanimous decision.
We use to nick off from school so we could watch him fight on the tv. Those super quick punches were so exciting. Black pink green who gives a rats arse. He is the greatest.
interesting to see at 2:14 when Ali's asked if he's a boxer--and he's like "darn it" because he knows he's going to have his identity discovered--you can see he really wanted to hang on till the end :-)
Probably the greatest fighter who ever lived. His stance against the vietnam war, his fight against racism, and his personality made him the most famous and controversial figure of our time.
Ali was one of the few black guests on this show...Racism was big at the time this episode was filmed...I guess if one is wealthy and famous, then you automatically become an "honorary white"...It's also very telling, that, all the panelists, as well as the host, are all white...Blacks have come a long way since the era in which What's My Line ran, and thank God, MLK Jr., Malcolm X, Marcus Garvey, Medgar Evers, the NAACP, Harry Belafonte and Sidney Poitier for that, plus many, many more...Bravo!
@pagalley1 Actually, there were a lot of Black guests on "What's My Line?" The show is famous for the respect and the exposure which it gave its Black guests, which was radically different from other television shows (or movies) at the time.
@TheSapphireEmpress96 Okay, but those guests were rich and famous...Were there any black guests in the segment of the show when the panel has to guess what kind of work the stranger in the hot seat does?
@pagalley1 Oh, I see what you're saying, that's a good point. To my knowledge, not in this version, but I can't speak for the revamped version of the 70s (the one in color). I just feel that seeing any Black face in a postive manner would open ones eyes and make them realize: "Hey, they're just people." Or at least the willing ones. :)
@TheSapphireEmpress96 I'm glad you see my point...I won't cast "What's My Line" in a negative light, though, because they did have some black celebrities on and, even though there were no blacks in the segment I mentioned or, for that matter, on the panel, it wasn't the fault of the host or any of the panelists...I wish there were a modern-day version of What's My Line?...My choice for host and panelists : Host : Donny Osmond; Panelists : Raven Symone, Kelli Ripa, Malcolm Jamal-Warner & Cher.
@pagalley1 I miss this show myself. I'm not sure that it would work today though, for the simple fact that a lot of class, dignity, and just plain talent is missing from some modern celbrities. Still, it would be interesting to see how they would do a revamp.
@TheSapphireEmpress96 I think the bigger issue is that the TV (and entertainment) landscape is so fragmented now that the show would never be as important as it was back then.
@topoisomerace Agreed. People wouldn't understand the importance of it now. And with the political landscape as polarized as it is, you know that the conservatives would try to find some way to bash this show.
wow now that was great to see him on the show and it was so great to see him out of his element. My question is how did they get him to agree to do it
@innit27 ~ floyd patterson actually said, "this is a crusade to reclaim the title from the black muslims". he also said "as a catholic i am fighting clay as a patriotic duty. i am going to return the crown to america". patterson refused to call him muhammad ali.
ali punished patterson for nine rounds, some say ali dragged the fight out while taunting patterson to call him by his new name.
@XNorrinxRaddX, I wouldn't go so far as to call MegaObserver1 a 'fucking moron', mate. Yes, the 'what's my name' fight was against Terrell, but it's fairly common knowledge that Ali taunted Patterson during their fight, too, and that he carried him to make the beating worse. Like Terrell, Patterson had been very critical of Ali's name change. He insisted on calling him Clay, and called Ali's Islam religion 'a menace.' It's well known that Ali and Patterson disliked each other massively.
"Great fight", my foot! Ali beat Petterson mercilessly. He could have ended the fight in the early rounds but "carried" Patterson for a few round so he could beat and taunt him some more. Everytime he knocked Patterson down he stood over him and yelled "What's my name?" Patterson earlier refused to call Ali by his Muslim name.
Ali didn't like to be called Cassius Clay anymore, but just overlooked it when Arlene said it, which was very gracious. Whether Ali knew it or not, John Daly was from South Africa.
I suppose he's the sexist boxer of the program ?
RAREpicture 1 hour ago
What year was this show? Wiki-pedia says he didn't change his name until 1964.
thesocialpet 1 week ago
lool 'that sure isnt the voice of a boxer!' lool
AeroplaneCentral 1 week ago
And the subsequent Sugar was pretty good too.
northernoir 1 week ago
Great fighter,yes.Though it's hard for me to not think of Sugar Ray Robinson as being thought of
at the top ,also.
northernoir 1 week ago
@northernoir well ali said suger was the greatest p4p
chaka943 1 week ago
I have to say; I've watched every WML episode several times, and I DO think that the panelists are often given a head's up as to who the guest is. The way Arlene brings up the "Mohammed" bit before she says "Cassius Clay". I think it was planned that way to avoid offending him. I could be wrong, but my intuition tells me I'm correct.
I've noticed in a lot of the WML shows that they sometimes inexplicably guess people quickly & then another panelist will mention the star's current movie etc
angelzap100 1 week ago
@angelzap100 Your intuition is correct. I just finished reading an article in which the host of the show once told reporters long after the show canceled that the contestants knew who the celebrity was by simply hearing through word of mouth that they were in town or reading that they would be in town that day for a promotion of an album, movie, or in this case, a fight.
jvmst 1 week ago
This has been flagged as spam show
typical nigger
prettyb0y1992 2 weeks ago
It was his personality, as much as his skill, that made Ali "The Greatest."
UncleMikeNJ 3 weeks ago
How I wish there were tv programs like What's My Line on today!
albalonybalony 3 weeks ago
Cassius - yep, he moved like a butterfly and stung like a bee.
tinketteful 3 weeks ago
Notice how the men stand up out of reverence, the women stay seated. Heh.
mkjmstl1 1 month ago
@mkjmstl1 Has nothing to do with reverence. That was good manners.
darkwood777 1 month ago
he was the outside offical at wrestlemania I in 1985
NickInfante92 1 month ago
Why did they write that name under Muhammad Ali in the beginning???? "Don't call me that! That aint my name! That is my slave name!!"
tsopuaifa 1 month ago
@tsopuaifa When this aired, he was still better known as Cassius Clay. It took a year or two before the Clay name was dropped entirely.
darkwood777 1 month ago
@tsopuaifa Because he'd just changed it.
Hotobu 1 week ago
ali's right. he was indeed pretty. my grandfather saw him in person once and said he was the most beautiful human he had ever seen.
eldrama2 1 month ago 2
Ali - I am glad I am alive and old enough to witness his emergence, a thinker not just a talker and fighter we loved him in England
jnmklo9 2 months ago
@Medication102 I see your point ... I meant he was a good sport for acting silly on this show!
pladuk68 2 months ago
@pladuk68 I always thought he had a good sense of humor. It was sometimes hard to separate his joking from his bragging, but he was fun to listen to.
darkwood777 1 month ago
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pladuk68 2 months ago
@pladuk68
He perfected the act of trash talk! What are you talking about he was a good sport?!
Medication102 2 months ago
@pladuk68 word.
There was a time when boxing and class ran together.
Its a dieing thing both quality boxing and the heroes.
Its all cookie cutter manufactured bullshit.
But the guys fighting there asses off, still pursuing the dream.
You wont see them on a PPV.
hoghash78 2 months ago
I guess this was before he 'turned Muslim' so he didnt' have to go to war. Freaking coward.
GhostOfBugsy 2 months ago
@GhostOfBugsy how old you are 10? what the fuck you're talking about didn't u see they signed Muhammad Ali you idiot and why would he go to that fake war when the real war was inside america whites against blacks aka the civil rights movement read a book dumb ass
MIZIKE69 2 months ago
@MIZIKE69 Ali did take an antiwar stance, and his conversion to Islam was wrapped up with his opinions about the war. He made sure that was known. He took some heat at the time for declaring himself as a CO.
darkwood777 1 month ago
@darkwood777 just read my first comment dumb ass! i have nothing to say, this not a fucking debate
MIZIKE69 1 month ago
@MIZIKE69 I got into a fucking debate once. Some idiot said that doggy is way better than mish, but had no evidence at all to back his statement up. Well, I can tell you, I came out on top that time.
acr08807 1 month ago
@GhostOfBugsy What a demented person you are.
weedermann 2 months ago
NO! LMFAOOOOOOOOOO
samjames3000 2 months ago
"7beers" you are an idiot
ladykiller1978 2 months ago
Muhammad Ali was the first black person that was permitted not to have to fit into a stereotype of what a black person "should be;" Ali made himself over almost as much as Madonna has and the younger sportswriters of the time found him to be a real relief and joy this way.
By contrast, an old-timer such as Jimmy Cannon (on Joe Louis, "He was a credit to his race; the human race") didn't quite know what to make of him.
SatchmoSings 2 months ago
nobody would have known in 1966, that he would beTHE MOST LOVED person in the world around 1980- now. we admire you <3
bestlions 2 months ago
He spelled "Cassius Clay" wrong.
7beers 3 months ago
I agree with the person below, I consider myself lucky to have lived at the same time as "the Greatest!"
DrRobertMPick 3 months ago
@DrRobertMPick Me too!!!!
Apollogranforte 2 months ago
Joe and Muhammed are the only ones left that are alive on this video today
wonglee2424 4 months ago
I consider myself lucky to have lived at the same time as Muhammed Ali, THE GREATEST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
miker2001 4 months ago
should have asked ..Are you Black
luisvega666 5 months ago
@luisvega666 ?
fixedgearplanet 4 months ago
His fight with Floyd Patterson in November 1965 in Las Vegas ended up being a TKO for him. However, in March 1966 in Toronto, he went the full 15 rounds against George Chuvalo, one of his toughest opponents he ever faced, where he got a unanimous decision. He would face Chuvalo again in another tough fight in Vancouver in 1972, where he got yet another unanimous decision.
bluebear1985 6 months ago
We use to nick off from school so we could watch him fight on the tv. Those super quick punches were so exciting. Black pink green who gives a rats arse. He is the greatest.
belinda2118 6 months ago
Before he got angry
Porkularpie 6 months ago
damn she said Cassius clay.. she is getting a beating.
HellsHighwayTrooper 7 months ago
@HellsHighwayTrooper He should have said, "Bitch, my name is Muhammed Ali"
Lehmann108 6 months ago 2
@Lehmann108 Lol yeah haha
HellsHighwayTrooper 6 months ago
Beautiful handwriting.
capablemachine 7 months ago
Sammy Davis Jr. is an example of an African-American who was once on the panel of this show. :-)
chrisring123 7 months ago
Ali impersinating Michael Jackson. That's nice.
RobResource 7 months ago
@RobResource
Ali>Jackson
Chex2331 7 months ago
interesting to see at 2:14 when Ali's asked if he's a boxer--and he's like "darn it" because he knows he's going to have his identity discovered--you can see he really wanted to hang on till the end :-)
jy826 7 months ago 2
Probably the greatest fighter who ever lived. His stance against the vietnam war, his fight against racism, and his personality made him the most famous and controversial figure of our time.
havebold123 8 months ago 9
Ali was one of the few black guests on this show...Racism was big at the time this episode was filmed...I guess if one is wealthy and famous, then you automatically become an "honorary white"...It's also very telling, that, all the panelists, as well as the host, are all white...Blacks have come a long way since the era in which What's My Line ran, and thank God, MLK Jr., Malcolm X, Marcus Garvey, Medgar Evers, the NAACP, Harry Belafonte and Sidney Poitier for that, plus many, many more...Bravo!
pagalley1 8 months ago
@pagalley1 Actually, there were a lot of Black guests on "What's My Line?" The show is famous for the respect and the exposure which it gave its Black guests, which was radically different from other television shows (or movies) at the time.
TheSapphireEmpress96 8 months ago
@TheSapphireEmpress96 Okay, but those guests were rich and famous...Were there any black guests in the segment of the show when the panel has to guess what kind of work the stranger in the hot seat does?
pagalley1 8 months ago
@pagalley1 Oh, I see what you're saying, that's a good point. To my knowledge, not in this version, but I can't speak for the revamped version of the 70s (the one in color). I just feel that seeing any Black face in a postive manner would open ones eyes and make them realize: "Hey, they're just people." Or at least the willing ones. :)
TheSapphireEmpress96 8 months ago
@TheSapphireEmpress96 I'm glad you see my point...I won't cast "What's My Line" in a negative light, though, because they did have some black celebrities on and, even though there were no blacks in the segment I mentioned or, for that matter, on the panel, it wasn't the fault of the host or any of the panelists...I wish there were a modern-day version of What's My Line?...My choice for host and panelists : Host : Donny Osmond; Panelists : Raven Symone, Kelli Ripa, Malcolm Jamal-Warner & Cher.
pagalley1 8 months ago
@pagalley1 I miss this show myself. I'm not sure that it would work today though, for the simple fact that a lot of class, dignity, and just plain talent is missing from some modern celbrities. Still, it would be interesting to see how they would do a revamp.
TheSapphireEmpress96 7 months ago
@TheSapphireEmpress96 I think the bigger issue is that the TV (and entertainment) landscape is so fragmented now that the show would never be as important as it was back then.
topoisomerace 7 months ago
@topoisomerace Agreed. People wouldn't understand the importance of it now. And with the political landscape as polarized as it is, you know that the conservatives would try to find some way to bash this show.
TheSapphireEmpress96 7 months ago
Congrats that he shook their hands without squeezing them to the floor! Many could learn from that. Not a macho wrestling duel.
GregWn 9 months ago
Never heard them aske if athelete in second question. Odd.
GregWn 9 months ago
wow now that was great to see him on the show and it was so great to see him out of his element. My question is how did they get him to agree to do it
jcextra 10 months ago
note the rather modest applause. He was controversial.
ciroalb3 11 months ago
@ciroalb3 yep most of white america would be rooting for floyd patterson in the fight he mentions.
innit27 11 months ago
@innit27 ~ floyd patterson actually said, "this is a crusade to reclaim the title from the black muslims". he also said "as a catholic i am fighting clay as a patriotic duty. i am going to return the crown to america". patterson refused to call him muhammad ali.
ali punished patterson for nine rounds, some say ali dragged the fight out while taunting patterson to call him by his new name.
tomitstube 10 months ago
There's something about the walk of a boxer..
AlenaCihalikova 11 months ago
@XNorrinxRaddX, I wouldn't go so far as to call MegaObserver1 a 'fucking moron', mate. Yes, the 'what's my name' fight was against Terrell, but it's fairly common knowledge that Ali taunted Patterson during their fight, too, and that he carried him to make the beating worse. Like Terrell, Patterson had been very critical of Ali's name change. He insisted on calling him Clay, and called Ali's Islam religion 'a menace.' It's well known that Ali and Patterson disliked each other massively.
iljn1988 1 year ago
hhaha funny stuff
michon56 1 year ago
"your voice doesn't sound like a boxer"
If Mike Tyson was on the show he would have had to make his voice deep to fool them.
nexusutube 1 year ago 59
@nexusutube the voice of tyson was of pussy
combatesdeboxeo 2 months ago
@nexusutube
youtube.com/watch?v=hx66LWV-CCk&feature=related
theonlyantony 1 week ago
"Great fight", my foot! Ali beat Petterson mercilessly. He could have ended the fight in the early rounds but "carried" Patterson for a few round so he could beat and taunt him some more. Everytime he knocked Patterson down he stood over him and yelled "What's my name?" Patterson earlier refused to call Ali by his Muslim name.
MegaObserver1 1 year ago
Surprised that Daly would have Ali on the show after Ali's indoctrination into the NOI.
hankaaron1961 1 year ago
Imagine the applause he would have received if he had appeared as a mystery guest about a decade later. History: a strange and wonderful thing ...
Vitte4 1 year ago
Ali didn't like to be called Cassius Clay anymore, but just overlooked it when Arlene said it, which was very gracious. Whether Ali knew it or not, John Daly was from South Africa.
defundthewar 1 year ago
@defundthewar john daly was from Seth Efrica? sooooo???
nerdflanders8710 1 year ago
Man I love ali goddamn he is the greatest I couldnt stop laughing at his voice "NOOO" :D
MRPric3LEss 1 year ago
ALI SUCKER.
wagsouza 1 year ago
wow i never knew he was on this show :D
Blackjesus3 1 year ago
Although I didn't agree with a lot of his stances, he was, and is, an extraordinary man.
dkbales 1 year ago
woow he was pretty!!!!!
ajdukujac 1 year ago 61
@ajdukujac what a strange thing for one man to say to another woow you are pretty!!!
onlyjoetee 4 months ago
Why doesn't game show network show these anymore? Thanks Norbert. Great to see Ali at his charming brash best!
bman560 1 year ago
Norbert, I can't thank you enough for this most recent outpouring of gifts.
13loomisst 1 year ago
wow
FighterSpirito 1 year ago
Thank you so much for sharing!!!
weatdamal 1 year ago
Muhammad was like, "darn, they got me!" He disguised his voice pretty well...
frank47hammer 1 year ago 3
Congratulations! mohammad Ali was great! The greatest boxer of all time. And it marked the 60s, for protesting the Vietnam War. Thanks!
vsbonvenuto 1 year ago 4
Parabéns! mohammad Ali, foi genial! O maior pugilista de todos os tempos. E marcou a década de 60, por protestar contra a guerra do Vietnã. Abraços!
vsbonvenuto 1 year ago
This is awesome! thanks for uploading!! :)
Jade808 1 year ago