im building hho hybrid on my 2008 acura TSX EURO R 4 cyclinder with duAL VIPER hho CELLS ANY GOOD POWER SUPPLY ? i GOT MY EYE ON sTINGER AUDIO BATTERY
having Hydrogen and Oxygen in the same space at the same time is pretty dumb. If that ignites you're fish food.
You need to research commercial electrolysis to see how they seperate the gases at source. This HHO is nonsense and im not condoning it, just dont want to see you hurt
Well, enough of ANY "fuel" is dangerous and will make "fish food" out of you.
The gasoline bomb you drive around on everyday is far more dangerous and has killed far more folks. I am more afraid of being in an accident and the gas burns me alive.
The worst that will happen in an accident if an HHO container becomes compromised is that the hydrogen escapes into the atmosphere, which is EXACTLY what will happen.
We do not generate enough hydrogen at any time to be very dangerous. THIS IS A FACT!
As long as you do not try to compress the hydrogen and oxygen in the same container, it is LESS dangerous than gasoline.
I have "researched" commercial electrolysis...it is a very expensive proposition that defeats the purpose of me using what GOD gave me to inexpensively engineer a product that I can be install on my vehicle, myself, and increase the efficiency of the vehicle.
If HHO was "nonsense", then it would definitely not be worth my time or money. For me, it has been an investment with the largest return of ANYTHING I have ever done!
I have to support HHO research and development and ignore the nay-sayers. Ignoring the folks that do not believe worked just fine for folks like Bell, Edison, Ford, Tesla, Gates, Trump,etc...I am in good company!
Please don't use glass! If something goes wrong with the cell, It CAN explode! Use acrylic or PVC or ABS. These can handle much more internal pressure and are much safer. Safety should always be the #1 concern when dealing with hho. I had to go to the doctor to get stitched up after the glass BOMB blew up on my bench. Believe me it SUX pulling glass out of your skin for months at a time. Good luck with your experiments and please be safe. Don't want see this happen to anyone else.
You are the only person that I have heard of that has blown up a glass jar. Most of my explosions were controlled and blew a check valve apart, blew out one of two chambers on my acrylic jar or disconnected a tube here and there.
Now my explosions are for show and involve a bowl of soapy water.
I would love to know more about your accident though.
I learn from my mistakes and the mistakes of others very well!
The contacts on the top of the jar corroded and got a little loose. As that happened, the contacts heated up and caused the rubber washers to melt and caused a direct short. When that happened an arc happened inside the jar. Then kablooey! I was sprayed with sodium hydroxide electrolyte and high speed glass shrapnel. From then on, I have never used glass and I have always put my connections on the bottom of the container where no arcing can occur. Safety is more important than efficiency.
Oh my! I have heard of shorting and such at those points, though it has never happened with one of mine because of my design and the materials I use. I do not use rubber for anything. I use nylon bolts, washers and nuts. I glue the nylon first and make a solid base before adding the plates to be connected. The nylon I use is rated up to 200 degrees Fahrenheit, so I do not worry about shorts and sparks. There is definitely risk in all things but my new design takes me in a different direction.
The contacts at the top are well insulated and anything that is not nylon is stainless steel. The lid itself now is platinum also. I strive to reduce corrosion wherever I can!
Glass still sux as a material to be used in a potentially explosive environment. I'm glad to know you have taken certain precautions to minimize the risk. I love the way you are documenting all your results. At least put your connections beneath the waterline at it's minimum level. This will minimize any possibility of any arcing inside the cell. Be safe and good luck with all your experiments.
PWM Pulse Width Modulator...in a nutshell, PWM is a way of digitally encoding analog signal levels. Through the use of high-resolution counters, the duty cycle of a square wave is modulated to encode a specific analog signal level. The PWM signal is still digital because, at any given instant of time, the full DC supply is either fully on or fully off.
The voltage or current source is supplied to the analog load by means of a repeating series of on and off pulses. The on-time is the time during which the DC supply is applied to the load, and the off-time is the period during which that supply is switched off. Given a sufficient bandwidth, any analog value can be encoded with PWM.
yeah you should watch the PWM temp if you have cheaper components because they can widly variate if temperature changes, but otherwise great stuff, keep it up!
im building hho hybrid on my 2008 acura TSX EURO R 4 cyclinder with duAL VIPER hho CELLS ANY GOOD POWER SUPPLY ? i GOT MY EYE ON sTINGER AUDIO BATTERY
60 AH
EXgam3R 2 years ago
Give it a shot...can't hurt!
mrjamestferguson 2 years ago
I dont know alot about hho electircs but heard somewhere its 2 amps per plate
EXgam3R 2 years ago
That is about right.
mrjamestferguson 2 years ago
having Hydrogen and Oxygen in the same space at the same time is pretty dumb. If that ignites you're fish food.
You need to research commercial electrolysis to see how they seperate the gases at source. This HHO is nonsense and im not condoning it, just dont want to see you hurt
hydrohobbyist 2 years ago
Well, enough of ANY "fuel" is dangerous and will make "fish food" out of you.
The gasoline bomb you drive around on everyday is far more dangerous and has killed far more folks. I am more afraid of being in an accident and the gas burns me alive.
The worst that will happen in an accident if an HHO container becomes compromised is that the hydrogen escapes into the atmosphere, which is EXACTLY what will happen.
mrjamestferguson 2 years ago
We do not generate enough hydrogen at any time to be very dangerous. THIS IS A FACT!
As long as you do not try to compress the hydrogen and oxygen in the same container, it is LESS dangerous than gasoline.
I have "researched" commercial electrolysis...it is a very expensive proposition that defeats the purpose of me using what GOD gave me to inexpensively engineer a product that I can be install on my vehicle, myself, and increase the efficiency of the vehicle.
mrjamestferguson 2 years ago
If HHO was "nonsense", then it would definitely not be worth my time or money. For me, it has been an investment with the largest return of ANYTHING I have ever done!
I have to support HHO research and development and ignore the nay-sayers. Ignoring the folks that do not believe worked just fine for folks like Bell, Edison, Ford, Tesla, Gates, Trump,etc...I am in good company!
mrjamestferguson 2 years ago
I doubt drilling holes in your electrodes is very costly and having the exchange happen internal to them than external.
hydrohobbyist 2 years ago
Please don't use glass! If something goes wrong with the cell, It CAN explode! Use acrylic or PVC or ABS. These can handle much more internal pressure and are much safer. Safety should always be the #1 concern when dealing with hho. I had to go to the doctor to get stitched up after the glass BOMB blew up on my bench. Believe me it SUX pulling glass out of your skin for months at a time. Good luck with your experiments and please be safe. Don't want see this happen to anyone else.
flipster12000 3 years ago
You are the only person that I have heard of that has blown up a glass jar. Most of my explosions were controlled and blew a check valve apart, blew out one of two chambers on my acrylic jar or disconnected a tube here and there.
Now my explosions are for show and involve a bowl of soapy water.
I would love to know more about your accident though.
I learn from my mistakes and the mistakes of others very well!
Let me know...
mrjamestferguson 3 years ago
The contacts on the top of the jar corroded and got a little loose. As that happened, the contacts heated up and caused the rubber washers to melt and caused a direct short. When that happened an arc happened inside the jar. Then kablooey! I was sprayed with sodium hydroxide electrolyte and high speed glass shrapnel. From then on, I have never used glass and I have always put my connections on the bottom of the container where no arcing can occur. Safety is more important than efficiency.
flipster12000 3 years ago
Oh my! I have heard of shorting and such at those points, though it has never happened with one of mine because of my design and the materials I use. I do not use rubber for anything. I use nylon bolts, washers and nuts. I glue the nylon first and make a solid base before adding the plates to be connected. The nylon I use is rated up to 200 degrees Fahrenheit, so I do not worry about shorts and sparks. There is definitely risk in all things but my new design takes me in a different direction.
mrjamestferguson 3 years ago
The contacts at the top are well insulated and anything that is not nylon is stainless steel. The lid itself now is platinum also. I strive to reduce corrosion wherever I can!
mrjamestferguson 3 years ago
Glass still sux as a material to be used in a potentially explosive environment. I'm glad to know you have taken certain precautions to minimize the risk. I love the way you are documenting all your results. At least put your connections beneath the waterline at it's minimum level. This will minimize any possibility of any arcing inside the cell. Be safe and good luck with all your experiments.
flipster12000 3 years ago
I finally got around to testing the explosion of the glass jar...still picking up pieces of glass in the garage.
You were right! They can explode, under the right circumstances.
No stiches needed on this one!
mrjamestferguson 3 years ago
James what is a PWM what is it doing stepping up the voltage?
busterfairway 3 years ago
PWM Pulse Width Modulator...in a nutshell, PWM is a way of digitally encoding analog signal levels. Through the use of high-resolution counters, the duty cycle of a square wave is modulated to encode a specific analog signal level. The PWM signal is still digital because, at any given instant of time, the full DC supply is either fully on or fully off.
mrjamestferguson 3 years ago
The voltage or current source is supplied to the analog load by means of a repeating series of on and off pulses. The on-time is the time during which the DC supply is applied to the load, and the off-time is the period during which that supply is switched off. Given a sufficient bandwidth, any analog value can be encoded with PWM.
mrjamestferguson 3 years ago
This particular test cell runs way too hot. I had a lot of data on it so I wanted to see if the PWM could help.
The PWM surprised me and helped the cell run cooler and production appeared to be the same.
I found that the 30a 400 hz PWM ran it's best, with this cell at about 3 amps with a formula of 1/4 tsp NaOH/4 oz 70% iso alc/20 oz dist water.
The way it was working, I could have gotten some serious mileage out of it.
I really don't have time to test all the possibilities for the PWM.
mrjamestferguson 3 years ago
I got this PWM from a buddy...it is a stock PWM which is WIDELY available all day long...I would love to have built one, but no time for that!
This one did the trick right off the bat...I think I was extremely lucky!
I have seen other folks with PWMs that complain of heat problems...mine NEVER got hot! Not even a slight temp elevation!
mrjamestferguson 3 years ago
Great work.
When you get to the point where you are considering running high amperages (10 amps or above), watch the temperatures of the heat sinks very closely.
I had to add a fan to mine to get it to run over 5 amps for any long duration testing to eliminate my fear of smoking the MOSFET's.
Good luck.
lutherp40 3 years ago
good to see this
yeah you should watch the PWM temp if you have cheaper components because they can widly variate if temperature changes, but otherwise great stuff, keep it up!
Rufe0 3 years ago