Pistol Sight Alignment

[WH250398]

THANKS! I was very confused about it!

[hulsey1976]

The only problem with being "slightly" off with your sights is that bad trigger control will amplify the imprecision even more. Trigger control is the key.

[gloctor]

@hulsey1976 Can't agree more that trigger control is key. The biggest thing to remember is the bullet goes where the gun is pointed when it leaves the barrel. If it goes off target it's because thats where the gun was pointed. The trick is knowing why you pointed there: poor trigger control, sight misalignment or gun just not sighted in to begin with. If you don't know what you're doing you can't get better

[hulsey1976]

@gloctor You bring up a good point about "if you don't know what you're doing you can't get better." When I saw this video I was immediately thinking: for more advanced shooters - just because beginners should have strong fundamentals in order to diagnose their performance. However, in a stress/combat situation this video is a good reminder that you can be effective without being perfect. I also hear a lot about training for point of sight in stress situations. Any thoughts?

[gloctor]

@hulsey1976 Rather than trying to teach point shooting I try and emphasize using sights all the time in practice, not that I would expect someone to be conscious of using the sights in a high stress situation but the muscle memory puts the gun up where it needs to be, when it needs to be. I first made this animation for beginners so they can see that perfect sight alignment is not required as well as to demonstrate how much out of alignment the sights needed to be when they miss the target.

[hulsey1976]

@gloctor I see your point.

[starfire0007]

Wow. Thanks for this. I was wondering about this but didn't want to burn thru a lot of ammo to see how sloppy I could aim.

[Stevens1892]

Hey, Sarge....too funny!

[rara27]

i was shooting with precision shooting pistols, our coach said it should be aimed at six o'clock. is it the same with live pistols, 6 o'clock or dead center?

[gloctor]

@rara27 If the gun is sighted in so that it hits centre when the sight align at 6 o'clock, it can make lining up the sights easier as you are not lining up black sights on a black target. the problem is it is usually only good for one distance. The biggest thing is knowing where you are sighted in.

[TheGeeCube]

Sgt.Foley: Ramirez! U have to aim down ur sight before firing!!!

Ramirez: Screw this!! Its shaking around!!!

Sgt.Foley: Hold down [Shift] button god dam it!!

[7zobzombie]

looks like michael j fox was holding that gun

[chisoxfan708]

On my Semi annual Department qual, my problem is I throw shots lower left of center mass. I do qual on the first try (We get unlimited) but I need to be much better for confidence sake! I anticipate recoil and try to correct for it. A Bad habbit I know but its hard to brake.

[Commiefornia]

@chisoxfan708 From what I understand that is a common problem and it relates to trigger pull. Practice dry firing your weapon and watch what your sights do. Using laser sights really helps with this also.

[gloctor]

@chisoxfan708  Work on dry firing but rather than dry firing slowly, work on getting a quick trigger press from outside the trigger guard without moving the gun too much. If you can move the trigger straight to the rear you shouldn't pull the gun out of alignment and if you can do it quick enough you won't have time to anticipate. Anticipation is trying to counteract recoil before it happens. If you do it once the bullets left it's just recoil control.

[jarosk66]

I would like to download this for my basic markship and CHL classes. What do I need to do? I just finished the Texas DPS Instrucor class and they are using it there. Are they justin veiwing it on you tube or do they know how to download and I do not.

John A. Roskosky

[FoxHoundsfu]

@jarosk66 Hope this reply isn't too late, you can go to keepvid.com to download youtube vids.

[lhusby]

:)Nice tip but I am dizzy.

[xxMRGRENADExx]

@ctrlaltWOOT lol that made me laugh so hard

[viciousKev]

this is only useful if you have a 40 mm round, like the red ball

[joeratti]

holy shit what is this? a simulation of a person with tourettes having a seizure holding a glock?

[AngeredKabar]

@joeratti No this is pretty accurate. In fact it's probably smoothed out a bit.

[Sasquatch7foot]

IDK this video doesn't make any sense to me at all.........

[Nash733M]

Good job,Very instructive video

about the basic movement of pistol sights.

And thank you.

[natedogg1041]

nicely done

[kendoka0girl]

Accept the wobble.

[gregbails4]

were you drunk making this animation? Trust me i know how to acheive pistol site alignment, and this vid only showed a drunk person trying to do it in graphic form...

[obeyance]

@gregbails4 As other have said, this isnt ment to show perfect alignment. Its ment to show how the forgiveness of distance when trying to aim. The closer you are the less your movements have an effect on bullet placement. The further away you are the smaller the movement it takes for your placement to be way off. Kinda like an adjustable mouse. The higher the DPI the smaller the movement it takes to move the mouse, the larger the DPI it takes greater distance to move the same distance. -=Think=-

[danreid56]

Great show of physics at play!

[kdavisnow]

continued. and of course the type of round being fired.

also if you make a double tap with my preferred caliber (45 acp loaded with hollow points +P) into the assailant chest. it can be assumed that he will not be concerned about a 1.5 in drop rather the beach ball sized hole in his back and lack of vital organs.... just saying lol

[haxxed]

@kdavisnow "Beach ball sized hole" is an extreme hyperbole.

[kdavisnow]

@haxxed check out the Hornady TAP 45 acp +p ammo. It maybe a hyperbole, but  they still make damn big holes.

[kdavisnow]

what would cause around an inch of drop a 5 yards?..A: the distance between the line of sight of the shooter and the actual barrel is around an inch and assuming the bullet doesn't rise immediately after being fired (impossible) the point of impact could be as much as an 1.5 inches low at 5 yards depending on the shooter. hope this helps ( :

[sbd45acp]

Continued...BG runs out door and down the street captured later. DO NOT COUNT ON ANY single handgun round to put a determined adversary down... keep shooting until the threat is neutralized.

[sbd45acp]

Neat graphic!

[jaybeesworld]

is this in any way accurate for an actual handgun?

[gloctor]

@jaybeesworld This was a Glock Model 22 to scale with the target at 10 metres. The red ball was to give some idea of how much you can get away with. All to often I hear people talk about the perfect sight alignment which real people can't hold and don't need hold in order to make perfectly acceptable shots. I would try and be some what stable but not worry about being perfect and if anything work on a smooth quick trigger press.

[bradlyw420]

@gloctor No such thing as perfectly acceptable. 

[MrSpeedjunkie22]

@jaybeesworld yea



[saintrobbie375]

Looking down the sights at the target is how you miss in an actual fire fight. That's why all special forces train to "point and shoot" After firing for a long time you don't even have to think of where the sight is and you'll have rounds on target.

[Countryboy2206]

yea but its also a bullet that has stopping power so theres no real need to aim it just point and usually if it hits a normal person somewhere it will drop them

[saintrobbie375]

My orginal point was Target shooting is worlds away from combat shooting. As for where the bullet goes, it should be center mass or head. Heads are smaller targets, so you should be aiming for the chest.

[Countryboy2206]

yes totally agreeing with you

[mad8vskillz]

i've heard a suggestion to aim for the pelvis with the first shot. It's a big bone which means lots of damage, and by the 2nd shot the recoil will climb you to center mass

[saintrobbie375]

That's just being an asshole lol

[sbd45acp]

Cop friend of mine, MANY many years ago confronted a convenience store robber while he was on stake out (back when cops did that ). Robber displayed handgun to clerk then shoved his gun back into jacket pocket. Cop gets the drop on him w/ S&W M-25 in 45 Colt, says don't move.. BG moves, Cop fires hand loaded (back when cops did that ) 200 grain Speer "Flying Ashtray" bullet that impacts his PELVIS, shatters said pelvis. exits his RH butt cheek taking orange sized chunk of ass with it.

[Minatorous]

@Countryboy2206 Yeah tell that to someone on crack. Until you hit some vital organ (heart, brain etc..) the're not going to stop.

[DrMrTrippy]

Great video, I think the idea is to show how sight alignment effects shot placement

[ETERNALH8]

What kind of faggot video is this?? Have the gun be still for a second or two how fucking anoying

[DrMrTrippy]

If you click the pause button it will do that;)

[ETERNALH8]

Thanks Captain Obvious. First time I watched it, it didn't stop moving so it anoyed me.. Douche

[ThePadintor]

WOW! I saw your comment on another and with this comment along with your name I can see you're just an ignorant immature name calling idiot. Then again, that's just how you want us to see you. Go ahead and comment back on this, curse, insult, do all that stuff because I won't even bother answer back. YOU'RE SO COOL!!

[ETERNALH8]

Thx

[mixwell1983]

@ETERNALH8 - "What kind of faggot video is this?? Have the gun be still for a second or two how fucking anoying" --- I kinda thought the same thing when first watching this video but the video (I think) is showing how simple movement from natural movement can impair your aim and I actually learned from it. If you're really looking for the perfect sight picture you should just google image it, im sure there has to be some nice images on proper sight alignment.. Okay 8mth old comment reply haha

[pete5668]

I almost shot my laptop! :)

[Squ1bst3r]

looks a bit to the left.

[david65308]

Most semi pistols are factory sighted in for 25 yards. That is front blade aligned to point of impact. The drop at 5 yards is 1.5 inches. Nothing when shooting tactially but if you are in a bullseye mathc it would be different. At 50 yards the front sight would cover the bullseyes to hit the 'X' ring. I hope that that helps.

[DrMrTrippy]

What kind of pistol do you have that has sights more than 1.5" higher than the centre of the bore

[saintrobbie375]

He is saying that the round itself drops 1.5 inches. Hence aiming higher.

[gloctor]

He must be using a very slow velocity BB gun to get 1.5" drop at 5 yards (less than 200 fps)

[tacos4u632]

@gloctor naturally it drops about .25 to .5 of an inch because the bullet is under the sight.... but 1.5m inches per 5 yards... thats an airsoft gun(which is 50 fps)

[gloctor]

@tacos4u632 Good observation, bullets always start low on a slight upward angle compared to the sights, otherwise it would be impossible to sight in. The distance the firearm is sighted in for or “zeroed” is where the bullet trajectory and line of sight intersect. i.e. to be zeroed at 200 metres the bullet starts low, travels on a trajectory that intersects the line of sight once at a closer distance, continues above the line of sight, then drops back down to intersect again at 200 metres.

[sbd45acp]

Drop at 5 yds? Hhhmm... what causes it to drop at 5 yds?

[PlaystationLOV3R]

usually when you shoot 50 yards you dont focus on the bull. you just need to keep front sight and rear sight alighned and have a good trigger squeeze. that'a a trick to get you shots grouped in the center of the target (bull)

[blackforest270]

If i shoot close and fast,i focus on the white dot on the front sight.If i shoot medium speed and medium range i focus on front and rear sight.If i want maximum accuracy or long range i focus on the very top flat plane of the front sight,handy when shooting Squirrels with a handgun.

[babyhunter69]

its around 10-15 metres

[Somersault111]

anyone knows what ranges this video discribes?

[NRAGOAL]

Thanks guys

[lsnidal]

Generally pistols are sighted in when the top of the sights line up. The dots are for quick acquisition in low light conditions and the slight misalignment doesn't make that much difference at close distances. The video is to show how much (or little) difference sight alignment makes on on shot placement if you have good trigger control.

[NRAGOAL]

so the dots don't go in the center of the target? You line up the center with the top of the blades?

[rboos]

If the dots were in the center, they would cover the target area at certain distances; if you align the top of the sights at the base of the area you want to shoot, at given a distance, you can still see the target area...

Maybe at a 100 yards the center dot would be covering the target..

[SWAT518]

so simple but VERY helpful

[charlie1spn]

how do you get copy of this or CD

[stopglobalswarming]

Have you seen the XS sights? Bright front dot, v shaped rear. Looks really good.

[BlessedRPeacekeepers]

basic stuff but gets the point across.