brahms has almost as high a percentage of his themes being memorable and meaningful as mozart..bartok marvelled at brahms inexhaustable invention.remember..mozart didnt use "tunes' as his symphonic themes either..both composers used themes that were "pregnant"and the result is "immortality"
Like the other great composers, Brahms can take a little piece of thematic material that is not that interesting, and weave an entire web out of that.
@depedro99 Yeah looks like it. I'd say Austria though, looks like a place i drove past when i went to Milan :) Fantastic piece of art we´re listening to. It must never be forgotten.
Why listen to music (composers and performers) as though they have entered a competition? Each has strengths and weaknesses - mostly strengths - and who gives marks for this? Wrong way to listen to music.
To write a piece is one thing, to write a piece with passion and power is another , to me not all composers achieved this, for Iam a composer as well so speaking as one I haven't achieved it either
We are analyzing this piece in music theory and it is almost preposterous that Brahms was accused of being uninventive with this work in his time. Simply because Wagner (nothing against him in the least) was more liked by the public, Brahms was ridiculed.
Brahms develops the second theme with the first, before the second is stated. How is this not inventive?
Brahms was criticised for going against the concept of "programme music", which was, essentially, Opera without singers, in that it was narrative of physical and material concepts, rather than being an attempt to journey through the eternal and ephemeral realms of human wonder at a whim (which Brahms achieves spectacularly in this piece, and others).
@brentthecrass Brahms is uninventive (only) in the sense that the catalogue of basic themes of any particular of his pieces tends to be sparse. As he is a master of "developement" (Durchführung) this is not a minus but lends his work the formal purity and plausability we so dearly miss with Liszt, Wagner, etc...
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indeed, there is more than one good reason to despice Wagner ;-)
simplemete preciosa
blackvelvet220 1 month ago in playlist Liked videos
Divine music!
agrig1991 3 months ago
/b/ edjermacating people about classical music... we'll be visiting bach next
Prizazzle1990 4 months ago in playlist Brahms:Symphony No,4
Мой любимый кусочек... мурашки по коже :) Благодарю!
ElenMos 4 months ago
@brentthecrass despite that Wagner is a bit of a dick
cobbtothejay 7 months ago
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6:10 - one of the single greatest moments in all of music
pianomanjc93 8 months ago
6:10 - one of the single greatest moments in all of music...
pianomanjc93 8 months ago
The second theme = pure TANGO!!!
An influence of Bizet's Carmen?
GreatFugue 8 months ago
From 1:37 to 2:17. This is purely Magical! Perfect Inspiration!
ColossalProd 9 months ago
I LOVE BRAHMS' SYMPHONIES SO VERY MUCH!!
OrangeSodaKing 10 months ago 2
brahms is the man! :)
prettyboi842 10 months ago
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pstanislavov 10 months ago
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pstanislavov 10 months ago
@pstanislavov One person is Tchaikovsky.
OrangeSodaKing 7 months ago 3
brahms has almost as high a percentage of his themes being memorable and meaningful as mozart..bartok marvelled at brahms inexhaustable invention.remember..mozart didnt use "tunes' as his symphonic themes either..both composers used themes that were "pregnant"and the result is "immortality"
mikejones1770 11 months ago
The fanfare at 1:32 and it's development is one of the great moments in music.
buickcityslim 1 year ago
Like the other great composers, Brahms can take a little piece of thematic material that is not that interesting, and weave an entire web out of that.
1990osu 1 year ago
These pictures - could you imagine living here! Must be Switzerland.
depedro99 1 year ago
@depedro99 Yeah looks like it. I'd say Austria though, looks like a place i drove past when i went to Milan :) Fantastic piece of art we´re listening to. It must never be forgotten.
jnotheman 6 months ago
@jnotheman This isn't Europe...... it's Washington. Haha
The mountain is Mount Shuksan and the lake is Picture Lake.
louco5 1 month ago
He is a master of tone color
falstocat 1 year ago
What orchestra is this?
atecia 1 year ago
amazing music, amazing pictures!!
where the pictures from?
yuripole0000 1 year ago
Why listen to music (composers and performers) as though they have entered a competition? Each has strengths and weaknesses - mostly strengths - and who gives marks for this? Wrong way to listen to music.
peteklat 1 year ago 3
Aquesta es una de les meves sinfonies preferides
jordiromans 1 year ago
Beethoven
Brahms
Tchaikovsky
3 Best
Rwqe123 1 year ago
@Rwqe123
You forgot Bach.
TheDarkflags 1 year ago
@Rwqe123 : How about Bach, Mozart, Prokofiev and Rachmaninoff???
MrJYTK 1 year ago 2
@MrJYTK And Dvorak and Saint Saens and Elgar, too!
ChucklezTM 1 year ago
To write a piece is one thing, to write a piece with passion and power is another , to me not all composers achieved this, for Iam a composer as well so speaking as one I haven't achieved it either
nostranger60 2 years ago
an amazing piece of music... imcredible :)
sandmaennle 2 years ago
We are analyzing this piece in music theory and it is almost preposterous that Brahms was accused of being uninventive with this work in his time. Simply because Wagner (nothing against him in the least) was more liked by the public, Brahms was ridiculed.
Brahms develops the second theme with the first, before the second is stated. How is this not inventive?
brentthecrass 2 years ago 38
@brentthecrass
Brahms was criticised for going against the concept of "programme music", which was, essentially, Opera without singers, in that it was narrative of physical and material concepts, rather than being an attempt to journey through the eternal and ephemeral realms of human wonder at a whim (which Brahms achieves spectacularly in this piece, and others).
TheDarkflags 1 year ago
@brentthecrass Brahms is uninventive (only) in the sense that the catalogue of basic themes of any particular of his pieces tends to be sparse. As he is a master of "developement" (Durchführung) this is not a minus but lends his work the formal purity and plausability we so dearly miss with Liszt, Wagner, etc...
.
indeed, there is more than one good reason to despice Wagner ;-)
verreglasse 1 year ago
@verreglasse He's not experimental, he likes structure. What he does in that structure is quite marvelous though, he really takes us on a ride.
I adore both ends of the spectrum, I love stuff like Ravel and Debussy where you really don't know where they're going. I also love stuff like Brahms
Sshelly34213 1 year ago
@brentthecrass To be fair, Brahms > Wagner. Obviously both were amazing, goes without saying, but Brahms's passion is way too underrated, for me.
alexface211 11 months ago
Could not the whole movement have been put in one video?
marklavar 2 years ago 3
Excellent composition, excellent conduction!
ashraniyyah 2 years ago
wow karajan really mastered conducting this symphony, truly wonderful, mesmerizingly lovely song.
MrClarinetFreak 2 years ago 2
is it possible not love this music? I don't think so it's possible not to love it ...
musiclover83 2 years ago 3
The scene matches the beauty of this marvelous piece. Soothing
valenresh 2 years ago
love this piece
heatherlovesjade 2 years ago 16