Direct Archaeological Evidence for the Book of Mormon

[MrDickgozinia]

Wow. Ive seen a few of these videos. This has me scratching my head. I get chills when I hear some of this stuff. Good stuff.

[JDuWayne]

youre a crackpot.

[vmedia2]

weak



[omiolo]

Co-funding to the project was provided by LDS [Church of the Latter Day Saints or the Mormon Church] Charities in the amount of $4000

[omiolo]

Mormon temples differ from the hundreds of meetinghouses or chapels throughout the Philippines, where members meet for Sunday worship services.

[THELDSLIFE]

@DrRocksotheClown - that's two more than have been found from the Exodus of Israel.

[kiggityk]

@fairldsorg.. This is why you are acting as a demon. You are deceiving yourself and you are deceiving your fellow men. Thus making yourself a demon. Let knowledge be your god.. and let evidence be your savior... Now you lied outright. Nahom is not the name found.. It was NHM and it wasn't in the right place. With some crafty rethinking of the routes taken it could possibly be the right place but not by what was the traditional routes. And if you want to use carbon dating.. I guarantee you lose.

[fairldsorg]

@kiggityk There were no written vowels in early Hebrew. So, Nahom without vowels would spell what? NHM. What was found, NHM. And it was found in the right place. I am curious how you would argue otherwise. Lehi and his family travelled South, then South, South-East until they came to NHM, and then went directly East to a Paradise they called Bountiful. South, South-East of Jerusalem is Nahom, which, if you travel east, you hit the only oasis on the East coast with trees and rivers.

[fairldsorg]

@fairldsorg That is exactly what The Book of Mormon says. We have a video called Nahom and The Book of Mormon, and Nephis Bountiful in Arabia: The Book of Mormon if you are curious as to what I am talking about.

And by dismissing carbon dating of horse bones found in the Americas with a wave of the hand, does not make them go away. That is an argument that can no longer be used.

Also, how does calling people demons help in missionary work? Does that seem to be working for you?

[kiggityk]

Show me one thing you found archaeological that proves the Book of Mormon was right about it. And I guarantee you we can find at least 10 things about that piece of evidence that proves the Book of Mormon wrong. Have you found a honey bee yet? How bout a horse, chariot, advanced masonry tools, barley, ... shall I go on.. You are spewing lies. And are a demon because of it.

[fairldsorg]

@kiggityk Sure. Nahom is mentioned in the BOM. Recently, an ancient city was discovered called Nahom, in the right place, with the right name, in the right spot. Horse bones have been found in the Americas, which carbon date to BOM time periods. There is an article on our website by Wade Miller about that. Hordeum Pussillum (Barley) is native to the Americas and never disappeared. Perhaps you should read the BOM yourself and not rely on anti-Mormon material for accurate information.

[omiolo]

Yet Roberts remained in awe of the personal power “The Book of Mormon” gave him. Madsen writes, “Though renowned for his gifts as a speaker, B.H. Roberts agonized over the fact that he could never communicate the intensity, the power, the consuming white light that seemed to him to shine through the book.”

[omiolo]

Madsen doubts these assertions. Roberts told colleagues that these reports were never intended to be balanced. They were intended as tools to increase learning about “The Book of Mormon.”

Roberts’ greatest influence as a church leader is that his example reminds us that our beliefs need to be tested for them to grow. If they remain unchallenged, they stay weak and susceptible to failure in times of stress.

[omiolo]

Roberts, explains Madsen, has a different viewpoint of what the book’s translation was like than perhaps the typical Latter-day Saint. Roberts did not regard it as “magical,” or in other words, just viewing the Urim and Thummim, seeing words, and writing them down. “On the contrary, ‘brain sweat’ was required, and preparation, and labor,” writes Madsen.

[omiolo]

Despite his maverick views, Roberts was respected by his colleagues in the church hierarchy. He was fascinated by “The Book of Mormon,” at one point calling it the “fifth Gospel.” He spent much of the second half of his life defending the book. According to Madsen’s piece, the unique doctrines of “The Book of Mormon” — so different from traditional christianity —

[omiolo]

and the biblical and historical knowledge within “The Book of Mormon” made it impossible for any man as unlearned as Joseph Smith to create it from scratch. “It imposes what Roberts called ‘a greater tax on human credulity’ to say Joseph Smith, or anyone in the nineteenth century, created it,” writes Madsen.

[omiolo]

Roberts was unique within the LDS hierarchy for his reasoning that evolution and Gospel doctrines did not conflict. He wrote a book, “The Truth, The Way, The Life,” that was not published due to the objections of creationist Apostle Joseph Fielding Smith. It eventually was published in 1994.

In the mid-1890s Roberts almost left the church over a disagreement on whether church authorities could be active in politics. He eventually apologized for the near apostasy.

[omiolo]

He remained one for the rest of his life, dying in 1933 at 76. He served in World War I as a chaplain and was elected to the U.S. Congress in 1898, although that body refused to seat him because he was a polygamist. He married three wives and had 15 children.

[omiolo]

I ran across an interesting article in the Summer 1979 issue of Brigham Young University Studies. It’s “B.H. Roberts and The Book of Mormon,” and was written by Truman Madsen. Roberts was a remarkable man. Born in England, his birth father, and later a stepfather, both abandoned him and his family. He migrated to Utah early in his life and settled through a few rocky years struggling with the Word of Wisdom before straightening out, and eventually became a general authority at the age of 31

[kiggityk]

You said it bud.. Ancient Texts can't be proven.. Especially the bible or the book of mormon, the torah or the qu'ran. Let Knowledge be your God and let Evidence be your savior. 

[DrRocksotheClown]

@kiggityk UMMM..ACTUALLY They HAVE FOUND THOUSANDS OF PHYSICAL PLACES and artifacts in the middle east from the bible stories...but oh the BOM...details massive battles in vague undisclosed locations...vast cities..forming enormous empires...but there isnt like writinsg and cultural history and MASS physical evidence taht these isrealis inhabited america 600 bc-400 ad?

[omiolo]

Scott Swofford, director of media for the Church explained, "We decided to focus this campaign on introducing Mormons to people who haven't heard much about us, rather than trying to change the opinion of someone who has set ideas about the Church. We figured out the best way to communicate that message would be through its members."

[omiolo]

Based on past ad campaigns done by the Church, research suggests that just less than half of those studied knew little or nothing about The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

[DrRocksotheClown]

@omiolo okay then educate us sand show us the vast ancient city ruins...texts..writings..oral histories...proof that they made contact with the native american indians...you are trying to prove a NEGATIVE..we dont need to know about one particular group or church to know that something ISNT there..the bible is a HISTORICAL RECORD...and there is plenty of valid indisputable evuidence that it is accurate i.e ..who lives in the middle east right now..?aRABS AND JEWS..?

[omiolo]

@DrRocksotheClown "sand show"

what is a sand show? Is that some kind of ANTImormon code??

[DrRocksotheClown]

@omiolo and you areSTILLL trying to prove a negative...

[omiolo]

Mormon MP: We hear much about Mormon politicians in the United States, but what about leaders in other countries? LDS member David Rutley is one of the newest Members of Parliament for Macclesfield.

[DrRocksotheClown]

@omiolo oh soany boook that mentions any ancient city in mesoamerica must eb a holy boook?dude..it'sa boook...dude..ANYONE with an imagination o r resources can produce a boook...if the isrealites were in souith america then why is south america mostly populated by CATHOLICS?why didnt the "LDS" convert everyone to their faith?there is no sociological./geneological or historical record of any of this..

[DrRocksotheClown]

@omiolo umm..okay ..whats in the BIBLE?arabs and jewish people..who stilll populates the middle east ..ARABS AND JEWISH PEOPLE...lol..why wasnt america COLONIZED by arabic people?i guess that blows a hole in YOUR theory.

[omiolo]

Kansas City Temple: The Kansas City Temple Chaser happily recounts this last weekend's Kansas City Temple Groundbreaking ceremonies, reproducing it with many beautiful photos on her blog. She declares, "It was a glorious day. I will never forget it. Not pictured....my tears of joy!"

[DrRocksotheClown]

@omiolo funnny how we have so much native american history and artifacts blankets...baskets...arrowhead­s..weapons..toools...oral history... ...but nothing from LDS tribes?dont u find that kind of odd that u cant just walk into any secular museum in a ny town america and find anything on display with hebrew writing on it?

[THELDSLIFE]

This is fascinating! And yes, as usual, very informative!

[DrRocksotheClown]

@THELDSLIFE nice propaganda video...

[THELDSLIFE]

@DrRocksotheClown - I know! It's awesome when this is so easily proven.

[DrRocksotheClown]

@THELDSLIFE ummm..prooof...allll you have in this video is soem vague..looosely strung together circumstantial evidence...can we get ..CITIES...swords...shields...­horse bones..carbon dating...cave etchings..umm..HULLLOOO?can u say cluelless.?

[Condor2700]

Female figures of the land of the Bible? Goddess instead of God based upon figurines? Could you elaborate some more about these Goddess figurines? I am a member of the LDS Church and I was referred to these tapes by a friend, another fellow member. And I'm just curious, can you explain more about these female figurines?

[DrRocksotheClown]

@Condor2700 i guess this man didnt seee teh show on the discovery channelwhere tehys howed a wholebunch of cities in the middle east that matvched teh date sand geograpophic place sin the bible?LOL..but this man in teh video believes teh word of ONE MAN...fromONE boook written in 1830..?so what tehy found one persons mummified remains and that proves it?umm..i dont get it?

[DrRocksotheClown]

@Condor2700 this is s..tooo funny they find a FEW artifacts that arent even carbon dayted and taht prove stherew ere like 1 or 2 million isrealites living here?where are teh CITIES?physicala rtifacts?the DESCENDANTS...why havent we found any wriitings PRE 1830 referrring to this civilization?i mean COME ON peopel wake UP..this is the word of ONE man..where are the GOLDEN PLATES?

[DrRocksotheClown]

@Condor2700 so let me get this straight...your boook descibes massive battles in vague undisclosed locations....enourmous empires...vast cities..and this was supposedluy in north america..?but america wasnt COLONIZED by hebrew people.these evenst and civilizatiosn are not referenced in OTHER cultures historical records...and i cant walk intoa museum anywhere usa and see weapons...toools...pottery..et­c etc ..?and im supposed to BELIEVE this as a truth?

[dash1730b]

The concept, I believe, is demonstrated in our society today. Often someone says he is from Salt Lake but may be more accurately from Draper, unless of course he was referring to Salt Lake County. Likewise someone from Albany, NY may say he is from New York , but not New York City. But as the professor pointed out Joseph Smith caught much criticism for applying that concept to Jerusalem. It simply was not understood in his day

[omiolo]

unfortunately for us, the critics are generally not critics, but upset individuals unwilling to look past their own disdain.

[DrRocksotheClown]

@omiolo okay then show us some of the "vast"ancient cities inamerica...LOL...

[omiolo]

@DrRocksotheClown I am NOT sure what you specifically want, but one of the cities of mesoamerica mentioned in the Book of Mormon is teotihuacan. BTW, what did the Aztecs say the Mayans called teotihuacan?

[DrRocksotheClown]

@omiolo so your boy joseph was basically just plagerizing mayan culture and putting his own name on it then.....its REALLY OBVIOUS

[DrRocksotheClown]

@omiolo oh okay so ..i suppose they have found buildings an d temples in teoihuacan with HEBREW writings on them?yeah that is MAYAN INDIAN culture and artifacts...in south america what does THAT have to do with anything relating to peopel of middl e e astern decent..?alll that proves is that your boy joseph smith was a plagerist and stole his ideas from the mayan culture..

[omiolo]

@DrRocksotheClown "they have found buildings an d temples in teoihuacan"

btw, what does Teotihuacan mean?

[DrRocksotheClown]

@omiolo and the minor detail that your ONE Boook written by ONE man who CLAIMS he talked to god even though the bible says man is not supposed to be able to SEE god or jesus..over 150 years ago....references civilzations and cultures that have NO historical record from peer reviewed non partisan sources..

[omiolo]

@DrRocksotheClown "the bible says man is not supposed to be able to SEE god or jesus."

I thought Jesus is God? & Exodus 33:10-11.

[DrRocksotheClown]

@omiolo if u read revelations ..it clearly implies and states that no one human would see him after the ascension...it is in black and white no gray areas...go read it

[omiolo]

@DrRocksotheClown Still NOT answering questions??

[kbp5454]

@DrRocksotheClown You are so woefully ignorant it is comical. You don't understand the Bible, you don't understand any of the circumstances of the coming forth of the Book of Mormon. You say anyone with an imagination or resources could write a book. Joseph Smith might have had an imagination, but resources? HA! He had none. Rethink what you think you know and learn how to type and spell. It is hard to understand what you mean when you butcher the language you write it in.

[DrRocksotheClown]

@kbp5454 so where..what TAHT is your evidence...some koook standing in front of a lake reading from a boook making some half baked argument based on looosely strung together information and conjecture?EPIC fail ...

[allzago]

Always great to see a good video put out by TBYP! It is also beyond me why critics play the "Jesus was born in Bethlehem and not the Land of Jerusalem" bit so often. Joseph Smith was certainly aware of this simple tenet of Christianity, and to me it actually shows his tenacity by keeping the Book of Mormon text as it is -- "the Land of Jerusalem."  Awesome!

[UTSLC801]

Very informative! Thank You!

[TheBackyardProfessor]

My good pleasure. I will bring out more in other videos as well. Thanks for watching!

[DrRocksotheClown]

@TheBackyardProfessor sio..something about teh land of jesrusalme is familiar to something in the bible which PREDATES the BOm, by 2000 years..ummm..how does this  prove ARCHEOLOIGAL evidemnce?

[DrRocksotheClown]

@UTSLC801 sosome guy standing ina lake reading froma boook and not showing us any slide shows or peer reviewed sources is "evidence"???