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  • nice crits man :P

  • you need the tanks to dance between the portals

  • I seriously wish my UI looked as clean as yours :|

  • I drink petrol then ignite my intestinal track.

  • ^ Bunch of people cant get theyre gear :3 QQ

  • Ikaruga...WoW style!

  • what buff addon is that in the top right????

  • A lot of people here are defeating their own arguments, like the guy with 4.5k gs who says he does 5-6k dps. That is why noone wants someone with such a low gs in their icc or even voa/toc group. Also, to the 5k gs druid who does 7k dps, it's really not exceptional, might as well just get a 5.7k gs druid who can do 13k.

  • @awkword...WRONG. GS is a direct reflection on what dps your capable of. Any monkey can press the buttons and use their abilities. Thats all WoW is. GET GEAR! Getting gear means dps. Its simple really and easy to see.

  • @MrMrl69

    6k gs+bad player=bad player

  • @MrMrl69 that's absolutely wrong ,you'll generally see that skill is way more important than gear ,i've seen skilled people with less gs do a lot more dps than people with great stuff but having no skill

    you sir deserve a facepalm *facepalm's with both hands*

  • @0xCIPHERx0

    Annnnd how do you measure skill? Or rather, how do you know if someone is skilled when setting a group up? You don't. So it makes sense to pick those with the best gear.

  • @samrobson123 well get a guild that requires a testand a gs cap,and you'll notice the difference between people that have around the same gs ,the dps difference can be massive

  • GS is just something to evaluate gear, not skill. But usually a more geared player has more potential to do DPS, but not always. I prefer the old fashion way of /inspect.

    I only have 5k gs but i do around 7-7.5k dps. druid owns. that is all.

  • GS users = die on fire.

  • GS is really only important for healerz unless u ask crit and SP I guess so nvm GS IS GAY I CANT GET INTO ANY RAIDS i have 4.5k GS but I do 5-6k DPS usually

  • @rawrdisturbedrawr Same here. I managed to cobble up some GS and I do about 5k DPS with my sPriest.

  • @rawrdisturbedrawr which sucks.

  • yall r doing it the hard way

  • BUT BUT I HAS LEIK LEET GS LIEK 5.6k!

  • So do they get tanked normally then (MT on one, OT on the other)?

  • hey

  • @gatesisom44257 YOU ARE A FUCKING LOSER WHO NEEDS TO GET A LIFE. STOP SPAMMING THIS HACK, BOT, AND CHEAT BULLSHIT FROM DIFFERENT ACCOUNTS.

  • Does anyone know what add ons this pally tank is using?

  • @samgaidemak Nui

  • GS = FAIL! WHO GIVES A FUCK ABOUT GS! It is way overrated and way out of control.

  • You cant tell how good someone is, however you can tell how good there gear is, its at least nice to know that your in a group that's capable of doing it and that its the players not the gear.

  • That's kind of what the /inspect is for y'know.

  • Why the hell would you do that if you can see how there score is and not have to bother looking? Nobody putting together a raid, wants to inspect every single persons gear.

  • Because A: Greatness for example is still a good trinket.

    B: They could be wearing gear just to get a higher gearscore. Which is fucking stupid.

    C: They could be gemming spirit on a shaman.

    D: To this day, I have seen 2 people ask for a realistic gearscore for a raid.

    E: It really doesn't take long to inspect 24 people, if you seriously think so you're doing it wrong.

    F: Most succesful PuG's I've seen were when the raidleader decided to carefully choose his members instead of "OMG 5.5K GS UR IN"

  • @gggr8 I realize there's things like that, 1 equip like that wont hinder your GS that much, and its only horrible if someone is asking for way to high of a GS. 5k GS is super easy to get even with low GS items like that because trinkets and rings don't have a huge impact on your overall score. I'm not saying its perfect, but its way easier to get together a potential group that can clear the content. 5k GS can easily be attained now with the new VoA boss and all the triumph badge shit.

  • Where'd you get 5k from all of a sudden? Also, you're ignoring points C and E. I've done inspects for 25-man raids, it's not that hard and it's way more accurate than gearscore will ever be.

  • @eatfreshsub if you want a no fail raid you would, i joined an icc25 and the RL made sure everyone knew the fights, and had the gear for it, there are some exceptions to gear, like greatness, +300 str or agi on a proc is pretty decent from what i know, and it is a lvl 200 item, if you understand how things work, know how to play your class, and know the fight, there shouldnt be a problem, gear does help tho, a lot

  • @woodesroger I realize that looking at each piece of gear on every person is a good thing, but if your not hardcore and want to get together a group, its much easier to ask for a certain minimum GS. GS doesn't = Skill and I know that, but it does help show what your capable of, Trinkets aren't a huge factor when it comes to GS, just main body pieces really effect your overall score, and are usually the pieces that you wont find a lower iLVL that is an upgrade. People need to stop complaining.

  • @woodesroger That being said Im not some hardcore raider, and if you are, you generally are in a guild, not to mention your GS should be fairly high anyways. Im not even playing atm lol.

  • @eatfreshsub yea, its only in those pugs where a raiding guild for whatever reason needs a couple spots filled, it is easier to use GS, but the main thing to remember is gear does help, knowing your class helps more, but what helps you the most is knowing the fight, take ony for example, the thing with her is, its so easy, but people just fuckup somehow, knowledge is power (spell and attack xD )

  • @awkword519 indeed it is ive got 5,1 k gs and i cant get into raids bacause now achi shit has gotten out of control too

  • GS has gotten sooooo out of control, someone was spamming in chat they where looking to do FL for the weekly raid and said you had to have a GS of 5k or better to go.....YOU'RE IN FUCKING VEHICLES!

    /epicfacepalm

  • Gear affects the damage of the vehicles.

  • yea but how often do you get an a vehicle? almost never now

  • @sw204me

    I bet they were also looking for tanks and heals lol

  • @sw204me i think GS depends on how much health u have in the tank...but i see ur point :)

  • @sw204me your gear effects the health of your vehicle btw

  • @sw204me ummmm - the vehicles do take on the stats of their drivers - which is why the tanks should be driving.

    Flame Leviathan - yr understanding it wrong

  • @sw204me yeah and the vehicles scale with gear

    (Y)

  • @sw204me damn retard the vehicle damage is based on your item level or IOW GEARSCORE.

  • @sw204me fucking retard

  • gs doesnt matter, it doesnt do shit you dont need a high gs to do high dps y wont idiots get that though your heads. gs was a stupid thing made because of the ICC heroics and raids because you needed better gear to get in some. but still GS DOESNT MATTER

  • i agree

  • its so easy to get gear now that you can have morons who dont know how to play their class and have a 5k+ gs and still suck, i dont have a 5k+ but i can do 6k+ dps on raid boss encounters, but WoW has made it so easy to get gear for the people who dont want to work so it turns into easy mode....

  • Have you done any hardmode?

    No?

    Then you don't get to complain.

  • @shadowofthedarkworld. Blizzard did this at the end of WOTLK so that the new 80's will be taken into the new raids, and none of the old content, no one will run Naxx to gear up. They wanted the people that bought the game late after launch to catch up with everyone else. Once Cata comes out gear will be obtained as the launch of WOTLK was. Dont complain, Blizzard is only trying to help People and There alts get geared so people dont get bored.

  • -gs fails

  • Ooh another gearscore whore.

  • finally! x'D i think i get it now x'D people sure makes it very hard to understand.. but you really did a good job on this vid x'D thanks a bunch!

    Keep up the good work!

  • Idk how u guys learn that kind of addons:S looks.. very complicated to me.:P

  • is it the same in 10 man???? answer this quick please

  • Yup

  • 25 man, look at grid in top left corner

  • @nicky91mm yeah... or read the title in the first 5 secs of the video. just saying.

  • Man wanna play some Ikaruga now

  • whats the name of that UI addon?

  • I love this fight :D Did it yesterday. Got the "Salt and Pepper" Achievement:P It was a really cool fight tho:P

  • is that a warrior or a pally topping the dps meters??

  • Warrior, hence being Brown not Pink. :D And Lore is in 5/6th lol.

  • druid

  • r the 10 man and 25 man heroic the same as normal or is there a difference?

  • whats the addon at the top of the screen with the debuffs on the targetted mob?

    tx

  • in reguards to whether somebody doesnt have a life, its the person, not that the game they play takes it away

  • Hey, what is that nameplate add-on that is being used?

  • tank them closeer together...

  • "ihavetobecool"

    The addon is called Recount.

    There is also a version named Skada report :)

  • whats the addon that shows the damage done by the side?

  • omg lol my guild keeps whiping XD yea this is happytroll hahahaha

  • lol think they wiped a little

  • what happen to ciderhelm?

  • @zumogo he will be back soon

  • Wut.

  • lore, could you tell what add ons you have please it would help a lot

  • very wierd tact XD

  • Yea hater dude. I dont like britney spears but i dont go and watch her video's so i can write bitchy comments. Too much smack waste's your brain, clearly.

  • dude seriously if you dont like it w/e but let people who like it enjoy there game without your ignorance

  • do the tanks switch essences?

  • How can a game be gay ? :-]

  • nah dude, heroin costs more than $15 a month.

    Also hate on a game seems a little odd to me. If you don't like, it don't play it. Insulting the game and those that play isn't needed. I personally play because its a fun game that is cheaper than paying $60 for a new game every now and then and also for a chance to socialize since i can't get out of the house as much as I'd like to.

    And one last thing...if you don't like a game why are you posting on video's about it?

  • bad troll is bad

  • @TomtheHeroinHusky you are a fucking retard .... heroin ? like losing control of yourself ? like geting fucked in the ass by the same fags you say play wow ... looks to me that the fags got you here .. i really think that you sould shut the fuck up and die .. or come meet me face to face :P mister tommy ... i'll show you what nerdrage can do to a man !

  • lol.

    i hate how people bash this game because the news pickes the 2 or 3 retards that do stupid shit over it.

  • ya, 1 guy that plays nonstop ruins it for the 10 that dont, only we all get grouped into the faggot nerd group... im 16 i have a car a GF and go to parties all the time and i play wow and dont give a shit. =)

  • cool story bro.

  • @Trackfanatic74 I'm 16, have a car, go to parties, have a GF and play WoW whenever I'm not doing anything else. I mean, it's not that hard to have a life and play WoW, most people just choice not to have a life b/c it's easier to play wow

  • lol, we're in the same boat bro. dont rly kno what ur trying to prove to me >_>

  • Sure thats why your bragging about it on youtube :)

  • Ever heard of sarcasm?

  • i fucking lost deaths verdict in a rolloff against a druid. Fuck rolloffs i always lose them.

  • L2Roll?

  • thats a retarded response i cant learn something that i have no control over.

  • icecap... lolwut?? What does Hellfire do instead of suicide

  • Causes fire damage to you.

    Fire damage is absorbed by light essence. when you absorb fire damage...

  • warlocks can pick a colour and hellfire, each hellfire gives you 15 debuffs, you can start the fight with 90+ debuffs and will power-up right away. locks should always top dps charts here.

  • @icecap6969 it's true did it last week in my guild.

  • I just want to know how he got his bars an shit to look like that can someone help me please

  • whats the pally dps addon u used?

  • Tysm

  • Aww... the sexy and somewhat robotic voice is gone... Bring her back!

  • NOO THE SEXI VOICE IS GONE

  • is seal of vengeance that much better than the seal of command? because i see 14k crits on that thing :o

  • what mod is that circular bar around the character?

  • Believe it to be ArcHud (I think is what it's called, that or HudArc... )

  • ice hud

  • bingo many thx

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  • reminds me of Thadidus

    and ye wow has been WAY to easy... :(

  • This fight is too easy, they could've made it slightly a challenge by maybe forcing the healers to go to the opposite colour of the dps/tanks of their assigned side. For the most part ToC is a joke, it's pretty much a filler raid before ICC.

  • Have you ever played this on Heroic 25? Healers pretty much have to go the opposite color as the tank they are healing, where the opposite orbs will slam the tank with too much damage to heal through.

  • Tank shouldn't get hit with the orbs too often, else they're doing something wrong :)

  • Unless your tanks and healers suck, The tanks take the orbs. Depending on how you do this strat, you can use the cheap door way strat which you have the tanks soak all orbs and 2 ranged (Hunters/Mages) get the other color(soakers) Thats the easiest strat that blizz hasn't fixed yet.

  • Try it on H25 lol, You won't complain then.

  • actually you can sum up the whole tactic of the fight in one name : "Ikaruga" :D

  • /console cameradistancemaxfactor 4

    that works to make ur camera distance all the way ut i just did it like this sec ty :)

  • Jesus, thank you. I've been wanting to know how to do this forever.

  • Yes, its very usefull in OS too for the fire wall

  • I've tried the macros and commands but nuthing seems to work...I cant get my camera to zoom more than the bliz norm limit n its driving me up the wall...someone help pls...thank you

  • do you have a wheel on your mouse ?

  • sometimes the camera doesnt zoom to max - if there is an obstacle in view, typically a wall. In interface menu, you can switch off and on whether you want the camera to zoom in, if there is a wall between your character and camera point of view

  • thanks for the video =)

    very well done

  • How can you zoom out that much? Tell me please, it must be a mod

  • its in your camera settings :)

  • Nah mate it's not, i changed that camera thingy but still cannot zoom out that much, not even close to that much so it gotta be something else like resolution or something or a mod or whatever, id like to know what though

  • here's a macro hope helps u

    /script SetCVar("cameraDistanceMax",30­)

    "15 is default and "50 is maximum

  • that is exactly what i mean, thank you soooo much hun

  • u r welcome :D

  • /console cameradistancemax 25

    set how much you wannt to be able 2 zoom out 50 is max

  • /console cameradistancemaxfactor 4

    That's the command for it

  • just type /console maxdistance50 then you can zoom way out

  • what is the addon he has with the black bar on the bottom of the screen

  • bottombar

  • this instance on normal mode is really too easy

  • agreed jus got all bosses 1 shot we now on twins and its a pug so no vent WTF

  • I love this fight, on both 10 and 25 man, I've found really the only possible problem is people not paying attention the the essence they need to be affected by.

  • The Light does Firedamage according to logs.

  • i thought that ligh was resited by arcane not fire

  • lol u have sooooo many addons that doesnt look like WoW

  • tnx =) nice

  • m8 can u tell me plz how do u put the camera back like u got it? mine just come a bit bk and i have max camera range on maximun?

  • in your chat box type this exactly as I do it

    /console cameradistancemaxfactor 4

    you can do 5 too but theres not much diff and 4 works great to see all areas

  • i notice that most dps where on one twin is that tacktik works better either than split the raid in 2 groups?

  • What programme do you use to record this..?

  • Wouldnt the tank click the portal of the same type? Like if your tanking darkbane you click the shadow portal?

  • nope, couse you would then do less dmg and generating less threat so you couldnt keep him on yourself :)

  • Jebem ti mater lol. Ja govorim malo Srpski jezik. Ja sam od Makedonija.

  • No Having the opposite essence of the Valkyr you are tanking, will up your damage (And threat ) on the mob. But you also have to be ready to switch if the valkyrs cast vortex to the appropriate essence. If you do not you will die quickly and wipe your raid because you died. But on the twins pact you will never have to switch you just have to make sure u maintain agro on the boss and hope your dps are capable enough to destroy/interrupt the shield and spell in time.

  • i understand the taking the shield down part but my question is: is it possible to take down the shield without switching essences? it may save some time for the dps to drop the shield but not sure if enough damage would be thrown out in time.

  • If you change the essence you get more dmg on that other Valkyr while tanking down the shield. If you have the same as he does then you'll do lesser dmg and probably don't have enough dps to take the shield down b4 she casts the heal...

  • No it is not possible, thats why they missed the first "Twins Pact" That was cast, because half the dps didn't switch..It is imparitive that all dps switch essences and quickly attack the target..my recommendation is "If you have dbm" you should watch the timer for the next special ability, at about 5 seconds you should pull off the boss and get ready to switch (If you are required to switch hopefully u'll be near the opposite portal and switching immediately so you can begin dps on the caster.

  • hahahahaha

  • Really? On a WoW video?

  • Omg dude what dps do you pull, im seing some 10k crits like there nothing

  • That probably dosen't apply to this fight, since you do gain a dmamage buff from the portals on the respective twin, unless I'm mistaken, which I probbably am.

  • 10k is nothing

  • Well what dps can you pull on a normal boss?

  • I think he gets a 100 % damage increase.

  • The 100% damage increase is only for like 20 seconds, then you have to collect more orbs. And I know he dint have the 100% increase for the whole fight. I'm still wondering what his dps is though....

  • Yeah you're right, however crits like that aren't very rare actually, I would say he's between 5-6k dps.

  • Ikaruga, in my WoW?

  • Exactly what I thought!

  • Thank you, pwerfect guide once again

  • How do you get the camera to zoom as far out as he has it in the video? That would help with seeing the orbs.

  • in the key bindings options, asign a key for the camera "zoom out" and "zoom in". Also make sure your camera max distance option is set for max.

  • I do it with the following console chat command:

    /console cameradistancemaxfactor 4

  • can i know whats the UIs Lore is using

  • Yeh i really miss those days of raiding 8-12 hours a day instead of the 1-2 i can raid now and have a rl. /sarcasm

  • yea thats awsome. i have a life now 2 jobs. before i didnt have and could spend hours on razorgore,bwl,and naxx 40 but now the game evolved into 2 ways :casual and hardcore. 80% are casual and pay the same price as the hardcore so why should casuals get same epic gear? wotlk ftw, hopefully cataclysm will be the same or abit more challenging than naxx

  • alot of hardcore players pay for extra crap that most ppl dont know about. alot of hardcore guild require a monthly fee to up keep websites. and for you to have a sec account for faster lvling. also for you to keep your computer in top shape. wrath wasnt that easy. many ppl to this day have yet to clear nax. or step more then 6 bosses in to uld. it still something to say i down yogg.

  • exactly. im a hardcore but not a no life hardcore. i would never pay a single penny not for the website, not for ingame stuff. the only thing i pay is the expansions and monthly fee. the rest is just for dumb obsessed ppl. my guild downed anubarak hard mode and algalon. i dont enjoy the gear or the victory as much as i enjoy the scenario. the beauty of ulduar is the best thing for me in the game. not big numbers on my character. Lore is 100x more fun for me than the gear and stuff. but..