Those silly liberal scientists think they need a large hadron collider to understand the fundamentals of the universe, when all they really need is their Bible, the greatest science book ever written!
People think God does stuff just cause, no reason, just cause he can. Yet if you ask someone who knows/understands the bible the way it is truly meant to be understood and in the proper context you find out he does EVERYTHING for a reason. To me it makes more sense that a conscience God created conscience beings insted of unconscience particules creates conscience life.
If you have told one lie, that makes you a liar. If you have stolen one thing, that makes you a thief. JESUS said; if you look at a person with lust, you commit adultery in your heart! Ever used GOD's name in vain; then you are a blasphemer and can't enter GOD's kingdom! Rev. 21v8 says; "All liars will have their part in the lake of fire!" The bible says; No thief or adulterer will inherit GOD's kingdom! You broke GOD's laws; but JESUS paid your fine! Repent, and trust the Savior!
I believe in God, but I also find science very fascinating. Why can't the smart people from each side of the fence just agree to disagree? This video, and the things that we're doing nowadays are amazing and we should be patting each other on the backs, not fighting each other. It's really disheartening to see, from both sides.
I hope that you all have a nice day after reading this and just keep on watching fascinating videos and expanding your minds.
@ThElitE Why can't we agree to disagree? Because there is a history for both sides to advance their views against others. In science because it is all about seeking truth and in religion because it's all about controlling their followers' minds. Also religious superstition can lead to dangerous outcomes: evolution and global warming denial being just two examples. And lastly, it's just fun to debate against your intellectual opponents. Why not? If someone's wrong we should say so.
@Mudazwon I CAN SMELL SERB FROM MILES,GERMAN NEVER TELL ME UGLY WORDS,BUT SERBS USE NICE WORDS ONLY WHEN IS TOTAL NECESSARY !!!! IDIOT SI TI NA BAUŠTELI DI SU SVI IZNAD TEBE CIGOJNE!!
@dylanflyouroyd777 you realy triping man! you got f-uc-kin strange world view (and bad smell too). So, you can go on, visit church every fu... sunday and looking for god existense, but dont spam on posts like this one.
@Mudazwon Spam..me..post like what...IDIOT...you telling me...jel razumješ ili ne Hrvatski? I am not going to church except two times a year,one is a Christmas Day,and i am proud for that! Zazvonila bi ti muda da te ja uhvatim,nebrini cigoine! i'll put your black hole empty head in machine and than miraculous mya happen! Stay of me i hardly recommended,i am war Veteran,got my own problems!
@dylanfloyd777 damn!!! is it a threat? social problem of insignificant minorities, like your land, are out of place here ... i dont fkng undersrand (and dont wanna to) a word of ur crippled language ...
YOU ARE AN IDIOT (why: see above) and i hope that your highly appreciated god may help you into handling of your own probs.
P.S. you still young and stupid and did not see big dickheads!
so is it actually 100% proven by facts that the big bang is the one and only true explanation for the creation of the universe? I thought the discussion on theories for the start of all matter was still open, in which case scientist should stop stating "the universe began with The Big Bang, a massive explosion of energy" if it cannot be supported 100% by facts.. I'm not trying to implement the BB theory is false, I'm just looking for some closure on what we seem to know so far
@ZZzzzzzWhat well basically if someone could tell me where we stand, as I'm not that updated :P what happened to string theory and all that? many of the wisest minds of our time say that the BB theory is false, so in whom do we believe?
@TheMystery7314 Finding the origins of the universe is a process of much complexity. It would be a lot more easy if we pressed the 'easy button' n say "God did it!!" but that would leave us with ignorance. Its preferable to believe in a scientific theory under construction but with strong foundations than in a mythological/personal interpretation based on belief (not facts). Science has given us so much, you have to be positive. If there's an answer it will be given by the scientific community.
@ZZzzzzzWhat yes, yes, I am a man of science and as such an atheist. I don't disagree for a second with what you just said, but I was just wondering why the BB theory seems to be what we are all accepting as the answer to the big question, when it is not 100% supported by science, as many scientists have found faults in the theory. we have to be absolutely certain that it is true before we can make it the standard for all understanding of the universe
@TheMystery7314 I'm not much into this subject but for what i know the BB theory is the one that so far has the most reasonable explanation, and for what i know, the String theory is not much different form the BB theory, it's something like multiple BB's occurring alternatively under different dimensions. It''s quite more complex than the BB theory and science teach us to always start from the simplest/more reasonable preposition (in this case, BB).
@nzer48 read it in a book called Tellus 10, it's Norwegian and only said "many scientists have found several faults in the BB theory and don't want to accept it as an established truth". The book was published in 2007 and is used in junior high school science studies here in Norway. I don't recall the evidence they found that lead them to believe the theory had some incomplete areas
@TheMystery7314 Ok thanks for that. I just have a problem when people use the general term "they" or "some scientists". Tends to be a favourite of the creationist propoganda groups, fire out some un-substantiated statements and never back them up. Anyway thanks again for replying
@nzer48 I share the same disliking for that term :) it's just an easy escape way or an efficient way of planting lies to say "well scientists say we only use 10% of our brain" when the truth is that any decent scientist would call this statement very weak, and to some extent not true as the correct version is "neurological research done by [scientist name] has proven that we use all our brain, just not at the same time because different tasks require different parts of the brain to be active"
@TheMystery7314 "so is it actually 100% proven by facts that the big bang is the one and only true explanation for the creation of the universe?"
NOTHING is 100% provable. However, all available, factual evidence (including red-shift trajectories and background radiation harmonics), verifies that everything in the universe expanded from a central point. Unless you want to say "I disagree, it was magic.", then the facts speak for themselves.
hmm seems I found a answer to my question but I dont get it perfectly. The sheet is designed such that only a particle with a charge(magnetic or electric) and velocity greater than some threshold will create the desired damage pattern. Although there are several particles that can fit the bill. All of these particles are somewhat special so detecting any of them would be nice. The key to differentiating between which particle created the damage pattern lies in the details of the pattern itself.
Quick question: why would the monopole tear a path through the plastic ? wouldn't any of the other particles created in the collision have the same effect ? if so then how non-monopoles filtered away from the plastic sheet ?
What if the field Higgs is looking for can be found in observing the patterns of relationships of quarks to each other within a nucleus, as well as their relationships to other quarks in other nuclei. A particle accelerator is not needed for this, but some bitchin software and math acumen. Did it occur to anyone that particles are not meant to be smashed beyond the place where cosmic rays can deal with them? LHC COULD be destroying the field it was designed to find.
@Mentidero Problem is you are speaking on an individual level, he is speaking in general. To deny religions push to stamp out evolution especially in western and islamic school systems is insane.
@Mentidero - I disagree, science, though not perfect, can arrive at the same conclusion from different methods. Religion on the other hand spews bullshit and thwarts questions, it has impeded progress in every area of science for centuries...religion is no longer necessary, it needs to be put to rest, once and for all.
@Mentidero - Religion does not help the human condition move forward, rather it sucks the very life out of everyone it touches, it's a horrible thing to be exposed to...I hope you have freed yourself from it.
Plasma is created in black holes as matter is accelerated to almost the speed of light as it falls into it. Dark matter is the byproduct of the matter that falls into black holes, and the big bang released this dark matter which would be QGP back into our universe. The ultimate form of recycling. So matter has always been their it’s just changing from one form to another.
@gaynorglowellxsingh Another scientists says that space falls into black holes faster than the speed of light, which is why light also gets pulled in. If plasma is created at the speed of light, what is created at faster than the speed of light? Apparently matter everything sucked into a black hole slows down to the speed of light as it approaches another horizon event in the centre. According to your description dark matter is QGP, however ->
Wait one minute!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Let me check the Bible to see what will happen AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I find it hilarious how every time I come to watch one of these videos there is a vicious arguement in progress between religion and science. I have nothing against religion, but when it gets in the way of science, that bothers me. Also when these conspiracy theories come up about "oh no the LHC is going to destroy the universe," I just have to laugh.
Is all this really necessary? Spending hours argueing about who is and isn't biased is hardly something worth doing on youtube of all places.
I don't like constantly hearing in these videos that "the universe was created over 4 billion years ago" as if the Big Bang is fact. The Big Bang is a theory, the most evidence backed theory, but not yet fact. This is an interesting video though :)
@PeaceRocker01 Not 4 billion years ago. The Big Bang was about 13 billion years ago. I suggest that "facts" can be generated in more ways than you accept. Scientific facts like the age of the universe are found inductively, and anyone who knows this concept understands that any scientific finding is subject to the limitations of induction. Nevertheless, these are still inductive facts. To be consistent, reject these facts and you have to reject all induction.
@PeaceRocker01 Medical science might be able to help you with your hearing disability. As they clearly said "roughly fourteen billion years ago" Not four.
Unfortunately Medical science cannot cure 'the stupid'.
Don't forget that a well thrashed out Scientific Theory is greater than a single fact. As a theory is the culmination of all knows facts considered together into a coherent, testable, and predictable model.
@Core5 there is no need to be rude. The "4" was a typo when I meant to say "14". And I have great respect for theories. What I was stating was we don't know for certain that the Big Bang truly happened, but it is the best backed theory.
Any how, the big bang theory is now so well established that the only thing up for debate is not, are we certain that it happen, but rather How and Why it happened. It is quite possibly more demonstrably true than even the Theory of Evolution, in my opinion. Both of which I hold in high regard.
@Core5 Thank you for your apology. I respect the Big Bang in it's entirety and know how strongly it is accepted. I also, however, like reading/studying about other concepts that are just now starting to be taken into recognition like the Iron Whiskers by Chandra Wickramasinghe which is a second explanation for the cosmic microwave background.
@PeaceRocker01 Medical science might be able to help you with your hearing disability. As they clearly said "roughly fourteen billion years ago" Not four.
Unfortunately Medical science cannot cure 'the stupid'.
Don't forget that a well thrashed out Scientific Theory is greater than a single fact. As a theory is the culmination of all knows facts considered together into a coherent, testable, and predictable model.
"Magnetic monopole". It seems to me that this may simply be a balanced bi-pole. A discharge would be monopolaric, isolated by field attraction. Something in my "2+2" subconcious, tells me that the focus on particle understanding, is missing in planning, the dimensional space in which anything that exists, MUST exist in. This area 3 d.'s + movement, & anything near w/ a field. Particles must occupy area in our dimension. SO...AREA exceeds our dimension. Simply put, particle fields, may pass 3-d?
@tlowndes2 Ohh most people here are jst common folk that are generally interested in this stuff, like i jst finished watching a wildlife documentary on utube, it doesn't mean i claim to be a biologist. you can have some knowledge on a subject without studying in depth or being an "expert"
however there are some people like "lessermystery" who make stupid comments and clearly dnt know wat they are talking about at all. you can know what your talking about without being an 'expert' yeah?
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The internet that you are (unfortunately) using to communicate with others around the world came out of CERN. LOL you fucking neanderthal. Get off the internet you don't deserve to be using it. Have some respect for the people that gave you this.
@matchu4444 I'm not knocking the internet, I'm knocking the LHC. Let's see if you posted anything intelligent here - I some how doubt it. If I see some sort of intelligent, thoughtful response either to this video, or another comment here, you might earn my respect, but if this is all you have to offer, which I suspect is the case, you are easily dismissed.
@matchu4444 Yes, make your one point over and over again, because that's all your lame brain is capable of. I'll respect these idiots when they've found a way to run the collider on a clean, sustainable, energy source - in the meantime, they deserve nothing but my contempt - as do you, you fucking cerntard.
@lessermystery Wow! Way to try and argue with your emotions. Actually one of the projects they are working on @ CERN called DESERTEC is working on the renewable energy thing (solar in this case). Also using the LHC to create and possibly harness the energy from microsingularities.
So now thats both feet in your mouth? How does it taste? Good thing it's a big mouth ya? Go back to your cave and think about all the things you've said....and brush your teeth.
@matchu4444 When you stop trying to argue with your emotions, and ridiculous personal attacks maybe I'll take what you say seriously. You have proven nothing with your idiotic posturing. Possibly harnessing energy from microsingularities sounds like they are about as close to that as discovering the mythical Higgs boson - which that have not, and will not do. There are certainly some hair trigger tempers here. What are these microsingularities, anyway? Have they found any?
aids fights the homosexuality, and this rebecca black is a robot, man made. nice try, but I'm a Christian, which means I automatically know everything and cannot be taught anything.
It's a massive web of complimentary fields. Advancement in any one field yields knowledge, tools an experience that can be applied to others. "There is a single light of science, and to brighten it anywhere, is to brighten it everywhere". Cancer treatments are far more advanced today than they were before electronic body scanning was possible, or nuclear radiation was understood.
I was wrong about electrons, they don't have quarks, they are an elementary particle, like quarks are - except they don't behave the same way quarks do... So, you heard it here - I can admit when I'm wrong!
@mszs Peer review sceince is awesome, the some sceintists doing the same experiment can check if they got the same results anywhere in the world at anytime. how can that be twisted or coerced? randomly independant testing? if you have such mistrust why don't you study sceince, become a sceincetist of some degree and do the experiments yourself?
@lessermystery Yeah bro, your way smarter than all those sceincetists, plus what about the war on drugs or the war on terrorism. If you wanna bitch about wasting money surely there are better things to bitch about than physics experiments.
@shandcunt I sure didn't mean to imply that I'm smarter than these scientists, although I may be saner. Terrorists and the war on drugs are child's play compared to the danger the LHC poses. But I AM done bitching about it. I vented everything I had to vent on this topic, in this forum. There's nothing more to do but sit back and wait for doom - but I'm having fun in the meantime. :)
Read some of the comments, and it's sounding like *either* positive or negative results will be interesting, though for different reasons.
Though this would be pure research and probably short-lived particles, I'd still like the idea that someday, I might be able to get Link's monopole magnet gloves from the Zelda: Oracle games. (For non-gamers, one of Link's items were some magic gloves he could use to attract or repel objects based on their North/South polarity).
Thank you Science and Thank you CERN, this is truly helping us progress, whether you see it or not. A better understanding of this universe will unlock the mysteries and will unlock new technologies and a better peace of mind.
@mdiem Yes, they devised an experiment to detect something that they say A) doesn't exist, or B) cannot be produced by the LHC. They said at first they were checking for the Higgs Boson, or super symmetrical particles, but apparently they have spent 10 billion dollars in the hope of producing a particle that has the potential to kill other particles, or change their composition dramatically by causing protons in surrounding particles to decay. How can this be good?
I've heard some speculation about a mag. 1-pole, but I don't think it exists either. I don't know what you mean by a particle that kills other particles - and so what? What's so bad about that? It's a controlled experiment.
Also, it's not like they are not still looking for the theoretical Higgs Boson; the LHC has half-a-dozen experiments running simultaneously.
@mdiem The problem is controlling or containing these particles. Zapping protons is a bad thing, because if you or I had our protons zapped, the configuration of the atoms in our body would be drastically altered - I have no idea what happens to a particle without a proton. Hey, what happens to the atoms that have had hadrons extracted from it?... That's our answer if magnetic monopoles can't be contained. ->
@mdiem They are mentioned in the top 5 threats the LHC could pose in their LHC safety web page. I posted that passage in this forum.
As for the many particle accelerators in search of the Higgs, this is the point I raised earlier - the definition of insanity is to keep doing the same thing while expecting different results?
In the case of a scientific experiment the insanity is averted because it is not the same thing every time, there are variables and different control settings. If you're curious about what happens to protons that get a hard kick, research some nuclear physics fundamentals on alpha decay, beta decay, etc. Naturally unstable isotopes can have protons changed to neutrons or vice-versa. More stable molecules can get kicked around by cosmic rays and the like (e.g. DNA damage mutations
@mdiem They might keep coming up with different crap, but so far, unless I hear from them, it's still crap - at best. And if they're spending billions of dollars turning quarks into soup, or crap, then they're out of their fucking minds. Not that this or any other objection makes one whiff of difference. As far as I'm concerned, if they can't figure out the secrets of nature without destroying it, then they're a bunch of pig headed morons.
BIg bang! listen human you are just at the beginning of this quest of Knowledge. Your ignorance is still far deeper than any well of understanding. Dont think you know everything when you barely know anything at all. this is all
Cern: Magnetic monopoles are hypothetical particles with a single magnetic charge, either a north pole or a south pole. Some speculative theories suggest that, if they do exist, magnetic monopoles could cause protons to decay. These theories also say that such monopoles would be too heavy to be produced at the LHC. --->
@lessermystery "Nevertheless, if the magnetic monopoles were light enough to appear at the LHC, cosmic rays striking the Earth’s atmosphere would already be making them, and the Earth would very effectively stop and trap them. The continued existence of the Earth and other astronomical bodies therefore rules out dangerous proton-eating magnetic monopoles light enough to be produced at the LHC."
Here is a little video put together by Cern scientists - they made up a silly little song about life at Cern. On the topic of magnetic monopoles, they say there's no such thing.
@lessermystery To your first statement, my point exactly. If they can't reverse engineer particles, which takes more than a cursory glance, then just smash the shit out of them. Your second statement is a non sequitur, your third statement doesn't apply, as the LHC is not looking for a cure for cancer. It's looking for theoretical particles such as the HIggs Boson and super symmetrical particles.
@lessermystery It implies that supersymmetric particles as well as the Higgs field was present at the birth of the universe, since they are, in their own words, creating the conditions that were present at the Big Bang. If they are truly simulating the birth of the universe, it would have to mean that one of the things that were present at the dawn of time, was a particle accelerator. But that flies in the face of the theory that the big bang came from nothing.
@lessermystery These are the last responses I'm going to offer if people persist in throwing up irrelevant objections, like finding a cure for cancer, ad hominem attacks, or any other tire kicking type behaviour.
What I would like to know is when this science will produce a understanding of a level of physics that can be used to produce implementable technology to solve some of our major problems or at least advance the possibility of application so far that we get a reshaped society like our fiction of the beginning to middle of the last century ?
palladium clean energy ? fuzzy logic computers ? dipole fusion propulsion ? anti radiation emitters ? anything yet guys ?
@Curas1 Radiation used in cancer research and treatment, better superconducting magnets, and the internet, to name a few. Sometimes research (in any field of study) is done just to learn more about how things work. Knowledge is useful, all by itself, since there's no telling what new inventions will come of it.
I feel there being too research oriented and funding happy when more goal orientated projects would be more useful, but yes I understand you can't mandate discovery.
I'd just like to see the bottom quark discovered so we can develop new technology off of as yet undiscovered principals of science, like what could we really do if we had a theory of everything ?
These particle accelerator are like a Stone Age man hitting two flints together creating sparks (only the energy is higher) He might give the sparks names like ‘Up spark’ or ‘Down spark’ over a period of time. But he could never name them all because the EM spectrum is infinite forming an infinity of possibilities.
Those silly liberal scientists think they need a large hadron collider to understand the fundamentals of the universe, when all they really need is their Bible, the greatest science book ever written!
PompousPreacher 2 weeks ago
@PompousPreacher In fact the bible tells you how to build a computer or a mobile phone, of course!
supergiuovane 1 week ago
Oh CERN, you have all the coolest toys.
justdan54115 1 month ago
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chrispikeyp 1 month ago
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rodswebdesign 1 month ago
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ttwilkable 1 month ago
Thanks for the great video
TheSanovita 1 month ago
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TheSanovita 1 month ago
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andreeaweed 1 month ago
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Spasatcom 1 month ago
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directorygod 1 month ago
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ngeliatduit 2 months ago
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greenkonnector 2 months ago
Cool idea
prchecker 2 months ago
brilliant stuff here
shoppittsburghnow 2 months ago 3
Great video
MyDavidsun 2 months ago
OK, be honest, who else just nutted in their pants?
ojimenez16 3 months ago
People think God does stuff just cause, no reason, just cause he can. Yet if you ask someone who knows/understands the bible the way it is truly meant to be understood and in the proper context you find out he does EVERYTHING for a reason. To me it makes more sense that a conscience God created conscience beings insted of unconscience particules creates conscience life.
BuiltOnTruth 4 months ago
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If you have told one lie, that makes you a liar. If you have stolen one thing, that makes you a thief. JESUS said; if you look at a person with lust, you commit adultery in your heart! Ever used GOD's name in vain; then you are a blasphemer and can't enter GOD's kingdom! Rev. 21v8 says; "All liars will have their part in the lake of fire!" The bible says; No thief or adulterer will inherit GOD's kingdom! You broke GOD's laws; but JESUS paid your fine! Repent, and trust the Savior!
EXALTEDDIRT 5 months ago
fascinating!
Junketh71 5 months ago
I believe in God, but I also find science very fascinating. Why can't the smart people from each side of the fence just agree to disagree? This video, and the things that we're doing nowadays are amazing and we should be patting each other on the backs, not fighting each other. It's really disheartening to see, from both sides.
I hope that you all have a nice day after reading this and just keep on watching fascinating videos and expanding your minds.
ThElitE 5 months ago
@ThElitE Why can't we agree to disagree? Because there is a history for both sides to advance their views against others. In science because it is all about seeking truth and in religion because it's all about controlling their followers' minds. Also religious superstition can lead to dangerous outcomes: evolution and global warming denial being just two examples. And lastly, it's just fun to debate against your intellectual opponents. Why not? If someone's wrong we should say so.
OJB42 4 months ago
what is the update? how come no news network advises what is going on lately at cern.
did they fail to detect?
gabshmabs 8 months ago
I'm not smart enough to fully understand this but i still appreciate it.
KevD08 8 months ago
WHAT'C A WASTE OF MONEY,WILL U FIND OUT EXISTENCE OF GOD--NO? HOW MANY PPL DIE OF HUNGER?
dylanfloyd777 8 months ago
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@dylanfloyd777
They aren't trying to find out if god exists or not because they already know the answer to that question.
MrWhatwatwut 8 months ago
@dylanfloyd777 idiot!
Mudazwon 8 months ago
@Mudazwon I CAN SMELL SERB FROM MILES,GERMAN NEVER TELL ME UGLY WORDS,BUT SERBS USE NICE WORDS ONLY WHEN IS TOTAL NECESSARY !!!! IDIOT SI TI NA BAUŠTELI DI SU SVI IZNAD TEBE CIGOJNE!!
dylanfloyd777 8 months ago
@dylanflyouroyd777 you realy triping man! you got f-uc-kin strange world view (and bad smell too). So, you can go on, visit church every fu... sunday and looking for god existense, but dont spam on posts like this one.
Mudazwon 8 months ago
@Mudazwon Spam..me..post like what...IDIOT...you telling me...jel razumješ ili ne Hrvatski? I am not going to church except two times a year,one is a Christmas Day,and i am proud for that! Zazvonila bi ti muda da te ja uhvatim,nebrini cigoine! i'll put your black hole empty head in machine and than miraculous mya happen! Stay of me i hardly recommended,i am war Veteran,got my own problems!
dylanfloyd777 8 months ago
@dylanfloyd777 damn!!! is it a threat? social problem of insignificant minorities, like your land, are out of place here ... i dont fkng undersrand (and dont wanna to) a word of ur crippled language ...
YOU ARE AN IDIOT (why: see above) and i hope that your highly appreciated god may help you into handling of your own probs.
P.S. you still young and stupid and did not see big dickheads!
Mudazwon 8 months ago
All that amount of power created there and the elite keep the world drunk on oil.
AgothInnCloth 8 months ago
Thanks again!
MrSupercat9 8 months ago
How can anyone not like this??
centraldrummer 8 months ago
Very nice*
Roobert33 8 months ago
Why don't they just get a pin and push it through the plastic? That would be *Soooooo* much easier!
Just kiddin!
I'd hate to be the one to go back to my boss and say "We didn't find any Monopoles!"
WoundedEgo 9 months ago
i hope the goverment gives them a MoEDAL...!!!!!!!
get it?
mazdaplz 9 months ago
@mazdaplz lol dumb
bboyzjimmy1 9 months ago
so is it actually 100% proven by facts that the big bang is the one and only true explanation for the creation of the universe? I thought the discussion on theories for the start of all matter was still open, in which case scientist should stop stating "the universe began with The Big Bang, a massive explosion of energy" if it cannot be supported 100% by facts.. I'm not trying to implement the BB theory is false, I'm just looking for some closure on what we seem to know so far
TheMystery7314 9 months ago
@TheMystery7314 hi. i'm curious, what 'closure on what we seem to know so far' would that be?
ZZzzzzzWhat 9 months ago
@ZZzzzzzWhat well basically if someone could tell me where we stand, as I'm not that updated :P what happened to string theory and all that? many of the wisest minds of our time say that the BB theory is false, so in whom do we believe?
TheMystery7314 9 months ago
@TheMystery7314 Finding the origins of the universe is a process of much complexity. It would be a lot more easy if we pressed the 'easy button' n say "God did it!!" but that would leave us with ignorance. Its preferable to believe in a scientific theory under construction but with strong foundations than in a mythological/personal interpretation based on belief (not facts). Science has given us so much, you have to be positive. If there's an answer it will be given by the scientific community.
ZZzzzzzWhat 9 months ago
@ZZzzzzzWhat yes, yes, I am a man of science and as such an atheist. I don't disagree for a second with what you just said, but I was just wondering why the BB theory seems to be what we are all accepting as the answer to the big question, when it is not 100% supported by science, as many scientists have found faults in the theory. we have to be absolutely certain that it is true before we can make it the standard for all understanding of the universe
TheMystery7314 9 months ago
@TheMystery7314 I'm not much into this subject but for what i know the BB theory is the one that so far has the most reasonable explanation, and for what i know, the String theory is not much different form the BB theory, it's something like multiple BB's occurring alternatively under different dimensions. It''s quite more complex than the BB theory and science teach us to always start from the simplest/more reasonable preposition (in this case, BB).
ZZzzzzzWhat 9 months ago
@TheMystery7314 Please provide evidence re which scientists refute the BB theory and why. Thanks
nzer48 6 months ago
@nzer48 read it in a book called Tellus 10, it's Norwegian and only said "many scientists have found several faults in the BB theory and don't want to accept it as an established truth". The book was published in 2007 and is used in junior high school science studies here in Norway. I don't recall the evidence they found that lead them to believe the theory had some incomplete areas
TheMystery7314 6 months ago
@TheMystery7314 Ok thanks for that. I just have a problem when people use the general term "they" or "some scientists". Tends to be a favourite of the creationist propoganda groups, fire out some un-substantiated statements and never back them up. Anyway thanks again for replying
nzer48 6 months ago
@nzer48 I share the same disliking for that term :) it's just an easy escape way or an efficient way of planting lies to say "well scientists say we only use 10% of our brain" when the truth is that any decent scientist would call this statement very weak, and to some extent not true as the correct version is "neurological research done by [scientist name] has proven that we use all our brain, just not at the same time because different tasks require different parts of the brain to be active"
TheMystery7314 6 months ago
@TheMystery7314 "so is it actually 100% proven by facts that the big bang is the one and only true explanation for the creation of the universe?"
NOTHING is 100% provable. However, all available, factual evidence (including red-shift trajectories and background radiation harmonics), verifies that everything in the universe expanded from a central point. Unless you want to say "I disagree, it was magic.", then the facts speak for themselves.
TheHigherVoltage 8 months ago
@TheHigherVoltage thank you, a satisfactory answer :)
TheMystery7314 8 months ago
In my own personal opinion, This is an amazing age to live in if not only for the creation and implementation of the LHC. =)
CheshireShade 9 months ago
hmm seems I found a answer to my question but I dont get it perfectly. The sheet is designed such that only a particle with a charge(magnetic or electric) and velocity greater than some threshold will create the desired damage pattern. Although there are several particles that can fit the bill. All of these particles are somewhat special so detecting any of them would be nice. The key to differentiating between which particle created the damage pattern lies in the details of the pattern itself.
PowerOfTheMirror 9 months ago
Quick question: why would the monopole tear a path through the plastic ? wouldn't any of the other particles created in the collision have the same effect ? if so then how non-monopoles filtered away from the plastic sheet ?
PowerOfTheMirror 9 months ago
OMG we're creating new universes every day! I bet their inhabitants are worshipping us right now...and we don't even know they exist.
Muckydoo 9 months ago
but does it blend!
JJoneEIGHTY 9 months ago
What if the field Higgs is looking for can be found in observing the patterns of relationships of quarks to each other within a nucleus, as well as their relationships to other quarks in other nuclei. A particle accelerator is not needed for this, but some bitchin software and math acumen. Did it occur to anyone that particles are not meant to be smashed beyond the place where cosmic rays can deal with them? LHC COULD be destroying the field it was designed to find.
lessermystery 9 months ago
lhc = biggest hoax of all time
ricktbdgc 9 months ago
Science leaps forward into a bright future, religion tries to keep eveyone in the dark past.
JOHNINCOLUMBUS 10 months ago 59
@JOHNINCOLUMBUS Bullshit. The ones in the dark are those that dicotomize concepts.
Mentidero 9 months ago
@Mentidero Problem is you are speaking on an individual level, he is speaking in general. To deny religions push to stamp out evolution especially in western and islamic school systems is insane.
Judicial78 9 months ago
@Mentidero - I disagree, science, though not perfect, can arrive at the same conclusion from different methods. Religion on the other hand spews bullshit and thwarts questions, it has impeded progress in every area of science for centuries...religion is no longer necessary, it needs to be put to rest, once and for all.
JOHNINCOLUMBUS 9 months ago
@JOHNINCOLUMBUS You've proved you did put to rest once and forever your mind, congratulations.
Mentidero 8 months ago
@Mentidero - Religion does not help the human condition move forward, rather it sucks the very life out of everyone it touches, it's a horrible thing to be exposed to...I hope you have freed yourself from it.
JOHNINCOLUMBUS 8 months ago
Moedal experiment
31even 10 months ago
if you wanted a monopole why didnt you just ask?
gameraccounts 10 months ago
Plasma is created in black holes as matter is accelerated to almost the speed of light as it falls into it. Dark matter is the byproduct of the matter that falls into black holes, and the big bang released this dark matter which would be QGP back into our universe. The ultimate form of recycling. So matter has always been their it’s just changing from one form to another.
gaynorglowellxsingh 11 months ago
@gaynorglowellxsingh Another scientists says that space falls into black holes faster than the speed of light, which is why light also gets pulled in. If plasma is created at the speed of light, what is created at faster than the speed of light? Apparently matter everything sucked into a black hole slows down to the speed of light as it approaches another horizon event in the centre. According to your description dark matter is QGP, however ->
lessermystery 10 months ago
@gaynorglowellxsingh ... quark gluon plasma is highly interactive, whereas dark matter is thought to be highly inert.
lessermystery 10 months ago
Great video, pity about the comments.
zionic144nz 11 months ago
Wait one minute!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Let me check the Bible to see what will happen AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
699backstab 11 months ago
Not 6,000 years. One again the church screwed up!
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@lessermystery " Let's see if you know what you're talking about!"
Why? I'm not making any claims except that the LHC will not, as you think, "Destroy the world"
shandcunt 11 months ago
I find it hilarious how every time I come to watch one of these videos there is a vicious arguement in progress between religion and science. I have nothing against religion, but when it gets in the way of science, that bothers me. Also when these conspiracy theories come up about "oh no the LHC is going to destroy the universe," I just have to laugh.
Is all this really necessary? Spending hours argueing about who is and isn't biased is hardly something worth doing on youtube of all places.
pyrea17 11 months ago
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If it works I'd like to go back about 40 years.
camilosilvalindo 11 months ago
I don't like constantly hearing in these videos that "the universe was created over 4 billion years ago" as if the Big Bang is fact. The Big Bang is a theory, the most evidence backed theory, but not yet fact. This is an interesting video though :)
PeaceRocker01 11 months ago
@PeaceRocker01 Not 4 billion years ago. The Big Bang was about 13 billion years ago. I suggest that "facts" can be generated in more ways than you accept. Scientific facts like the age of the universe are found inductively, and anyone who knows this concept understands that any scientific finding is subject to the limitations of induction. Nevertheless, these are still inductive facts. To be consistent, reject these facts and you have to reject all induction.
Bigandrewm 11 months ago
@Bigandrewm Thank you for that bit of information and forgive my typo. I didn't notice it until you said something lol.
PeaceRocker01 11 months ago
@PeaceRocker01 Medical science might be able to help you with your hearing disability. As they clearly said "roughly fourteen billion years ago" Not four.
Unfortunately Medical science cannot cure 'the stupid'.
Don't forget that a well thrashed out Scientific Theory is greater than a single fact. As a theory is the culmination of all knows facts considered together into a coherent, testable, and predictable model.
Core5 11 months ago
@Core5 there is no need to be rude. The "4" was a typo when I meant to say "14". And I have great respect for theories. What I was stating was we don't know for certain that the Big Bang truly happened, but it is the best backed theory.
PeaceRocker01 11 months ago
@PeaceRocker01 I apologize for begin rude.
Any how, the big bang theory is now so well established that the only thing up for debate is not, are we certain that it happen, but rather How and Why it happened. It is quite possibly more demonstrably true than even the Theory of Evolution, in my opinion. Both of which I hold in high regard.
Core5 11 months ago
@Core5 Thank you for your apology. I respect the Big Bang in it's entirety and know how strongly it is accepted. I also, however, like reading/studying about other concepts that are just now starting to be taken into recognition like the Iron Whiskers by Chandra Wickramasinghe which is a second explanation for the cosmic microwave background.
PeaceRocker01 11 months ago
@PeaceRocker01 Medical science might be able to help you with your hearing disability. As they clearly said "roughly fourteen billion years ago" Not four.
Unfortunately Medical science cannot cure 'the stupid'.
Don't forget that a well thrashed out Scientific Theory is greater than a single fact. As a theory is the culmination of all knows facts considered together into a coherent, testable, and predictable model.
Core5 11 months ago
"Magnetic monopole". It seems to me that this may simply be a balanced bi-pole. A discharge would be monopolaric, isolated by field attraction. Something in my "2+2" subconcious, tells me that the focus on particle understanding, is missing in planning, the dimensional space in which anything that exists, MUST exist in. This area 3 d.'s + movement, & anything near w/ a field. Particles must occupy area in our dimension. SO...AREA exceeds our dimension. Simply put, particle fields, may pass 3-d?
broodyart 11 months ago
@tlowndes2 Ohh most people here are jst common folk that are generally interested in this stuff, like i jst finished watching a wildlife documentary on utube, it doesn't mean i claim to be a biologist. you can have some knowledge on a subject without studying in depth or being an "expert"
however there are some people like "lessermystery" who make stupid comments and clearly dnt know wat they are talking about at all. you can know what your talking about without being an 'expert' yeah?
shandcunt 11 months ago
@shandcunt so can you actually challenge me on the "facts" rather then just making accusations? Let's see if you know what you're talking about!
lessermystery 11 months ago
@lessermystery LMFAO!! hmm ok.
h ttp://en. wikipedia. org/wiki /World_Wide_Web #Origins
The internet that you are (unfortunately) using to communicate with others around the world came out of CERN. LOL you fucking neanderthal. Get off the internet you don't deserve to be using it. Have some respect for the people that gave you this.
matchu4444 11 months ago
@matchu4444 I'm not knocking the internet, I'm knocking the LHC. Let's see if you posted anything intelligent here - I some how doubt it. If I see some sort of intelligent, thoughtful response either to this video, or another comment here, you might earn my respect, but if this is all you have to offer, which I suspect is the case, you are easily dismissed.
lessermystery 11 months ago
@matchu4444 Yup, just read your comment history - it is full of noobulence.
lessermystery 11 months ago
@lessermystery LOL Have fun pulling the foot out of your mouth you fucking failure! HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!
matchu4444 11 months ago
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matchu4444 11 months ago
@matchu4444 Yes, make your one point over and over again, because that's all your lame brain is capable of. I'll respect these idiots when they've found a way to run the collider on a clean, sustainable, energy source - in the meantime, they deserve nothing but my contempt - as do you, you fucking cerntard.
lessermystery 11 months ago
@lessermystery Wow! Way to try and argue with your emotions. Actually one of the projects they are working on @ CERN called DESERTEC is working on the renewable energy thing (solar in this case). Also using the LHC to create and possibly harness the energy from microsingularities.
So now thats both feet in your mouth? How does it taste? Good thing it's a big mouth ya? Go back to your cave and think about all the things you've said....and brush your teeth.
matchu4444 11 months ago
@matchu4444 When you stop trying to argue with your emotions, and ridiculous personal attacks maybe I'll take what you say seriously. You have proven nothing with your idiotic posturing. Possibly harnessing energy from microsingularities sounds like they are about as close to that as discovering the mythical Higgs boson - which that have not, and will not do. There are certainly some hair trigger tempers here. What are these microsingularities, anyway? Have they found any?
lessermystery 11 months ago
Wow I had no idea experts in particle physics spent so much time insulting each other on youtube...
tlowndes2 11 months ago 2
@tlowndes2 I'm not a particle physicist, I just act like on on You Tube.
lessermystery 11 months ago
Science: takes a little more work than just saying "god did it", but it's far more rewarding.
castroherman 11 months ago 52
@castroherman And its far more interesting.
oexnorth 11 months ago
@castroherman religion doesnt discourage science and discovery, it infact encourages it.
zidanetribal00042 9 months ago
@castroherman
yeah but God made science so booya
LoryLandskipper 9 months ago
@LoryLandskipper your 'god' also made AIDS and Rebecca Black.
ZZzzzzzWhat 9 months ago
@ZZzzzzzWhat
aids fights the homosexuality, and this rebecca black is a robot, man made. nice try, but I'm a Christian, which means I automatically know everything and cannot be taught anything.
LoryLandskipper 9 months ago
@LoryLandskipper hahahah :D
you'r right, crazy person. you deserve a christian side hug
ZZzzzzzWhat 9 months ago
@ZZzzzzzWhat
gimmie dat christen side huug
LoryLandskipper 9 months ago
@castroherman I went for the thumbs up, but my dog jumped on me and I hit thumbs down. Sorry ^^
meroxyersox 9 months ago
its amazing how the monopole can cure aids and cancer.....wait....it cant???
monkeyology1 11 months ago
@monkeyology1
Science isn't a series of one-way paths.
It's a massive web of complimentary fields. Advancement in any one field yields knowledge, tools an experience that can be applied to others. "There is a single light of science, and to brighten it anywhere, is to brighten it everywhere". Cancer treatments are far more advanced today than they were before electronic body scanning was possible, or nuclear radiation was understood.
InB4Desu 11 months ago
I was wrong about electrons, they don't have quarks, they are an elementary particle, like quarks are - except they don't behave the same way quarks do... So, you heard it here - I can admit when I'm wrong!
lessermystery 11 months ago
Splendid! Top class! I want to know more now.
robbo916 11 months ago
@mszs Peer review sceince is awesome, the some sceintists doing the same experiment can check if they got the same results anywhere in the world at anytime. how can that be twisted or coerced? randomly independant testing? if you have such mistrust why don't you study sceince, become a sceincetist of some degree and do the experiments yourself?
shandcunt 11 months ago
@lessermystery Yeah bro, your way smarter than all those sceincetists, plus what about the war on drugs or the war on terrorism. If you wanna bitch about wasting money surely there are better things to bitch about than physics experiments.
shandcunt 11 months ago
@shandcunt I sure didn't mean to imply that I'm smarter than these scientists, although I may be saner. Terrorists and the war on drugs are child's play compared to the danger the LHC poses. But I AM done bitching about it. I vented everything I had to vent on this topic, in this forum. There's nothing more to do but sit back and wait for doom - but I'm having fun in the meantime. :)
lessermystery 11 months ago
Read some of the comments, and it's sounding like *either* positive or negative results will be interesting, though for different reasons.
Though this would be pure research and probably short-lived particles, I'd still like the idea that someday, I might be able to get Link's monopole magnet gloves from the Zelda: Oracle games. (For non-gamers, one of Link's items were some magic gloves he could use to attract or repel objects based on their North/South polarity).
TheBronzeDog 11 months ago
neat dude
zitroab 11 months ago
i had no idea thats how big the collider was. thats intence.
kiddhitta 11 months ago
Amazing.
ErichoTTA 11 months ago
I can think of cheaper ways to make holes in plastic.
MrGrayish 11 months ago
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StrikaAmaru 11 months ago
Apparently the video to play after this is Chocolate rain. wtf
intheshitter 11 months ago
@derman077 With over 64 million views I think he can go next. ^^)
emgee65 11 months ago
Thank you Science and Thank you CERN, this is truly helping us progress, whether you see it or not. A better understanding of this universe will unlock the mysteries and will unlock new technologies and a better peace of mind.
JRONII 11 months ago
Wow, someone actually devised an experiment to detect a magnetic monopole? that's pretty exciting!
mdiem 11 months ago
@mdiem Yes, they devised an experiment to detect something that they say A) doesn't exist, or B) cannot be produced by the LHC. They said at first they were checking for the Higgs Boson, or super symmetrical particles, but apparently they have spent 10 billion dollars in the hope of producing a particle that has the potential to kill other particles, or change their composition dramatically by causing protons in surrounding particles to decay. How can this be good?
lessermystery 11 months ago
@lessermystery
I've heard some speculation about a mag. 1-pole, but I don't think it exists either. I don't know what you mean by a particle that kills other particles - and so what? What's so bad about that? It's a controlled experiment.
Also, it's not like they are not still looking for the theoretical Higgs Boson; the LHC has half-a-dozen experiments running simultaneously.
mdiem 11 months ago
@mdiem The problem is controlling or containing these particles. Zapping protons is a bad thing, because if you or I had our protons zapped, the configuration of the atoms in our body would be drastically altered - I have no idea what happens to a particle without a proton. Hey, what happens to the atoms that have had hadrons extracted from it?... That's our answer if magnetic monopoles can't be contained. ->
lessermystery 11 months ago
@mdiem They are mentioned in the top 5 threats the LHC could pose in their LHC safety web page. I posted that passage in this forum.
As for the many particle accelerators in search of the Higgs, this is the point I raised earlier - the definition of insanity is to keep doing the same thing while expecting different results?
lessermystery 11 months ago
@lessermystery
In the case of a scientific experiment the insanity is averted because it is not the same thing every time, there are variables and different control settings. If you're curious about what happens to protons that get a hard kick, research some nuclear physics fundamentals on alpha decay, beta decay, etc. Naturally unstable isotopes can have protons changed to neutrons or vice-versa. More stable molecules can get kicked around by cosmic rays and the like (e.g. DNA damage mutations
mdiem 11 months ago
@mdiem They might keep coming up with different crap, but so far, unless I hear from them, it's still crap - at best. And if they're spending billions of dollars turning quarks into soup, or crap, then they're out of their fucking minds. Not that this or any other objection makes one whiff of difference. As far as I'm concerned, if they can't figure out the secrets of nature without destroying it, then they're a bunch of pig headed morons.
lessermystery 11 months ago
Call me when it happens.
DynaCatlovesme 11 months ago
Fantastic, absolutely fantastic. This is where I want to work, that is, if I ever get my BSc!
Corneilius5188 11 months ago
BIg bang! listen human you are just at the beginning of this quest of Knowledge. Your ignorance is still far deeper than any well of understanding. Dont think you know everything when you barely know anything at all. this is all
FletcherHabit 11 months ago
@FletcherHabit would you like some arse sex with me.. ill do the bending
marcarmstrong88 11 months ago
@marcarmstrong88 can I bring my dog?
FletcherHabit 11 months ago
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lessermystery 11 months ago
Cern: Magnetic monopoles are hypothetical particles with a single magnetic charge, either a north pole or a south pole. Some speculative theories suggest that, if they do exist, magnetic monopoles could cause protons to decay. These theories also say that such monopoles would be too heavy to be produced at the LHC. --->
lessermystery 11 months ago
@lessermystery "Nevertheless, if the magnetic monopoles were light enough to appear at the LHC, cosmic rays striking the Earth’s atmosphere would already be making them, and the Earth would very effectively stop and trap them. The continued existence of the Earth and other astronomical bodies therefore rules out dangerous proton-eating magnetic monopoles light enough to be produced at the LHC."
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lessermystery 11 months ago
Here is a little video put together by Cern scientists - they made up a silly little song about life at Cern. On the topic of magnetic monopoles, they say there's no such thing.
watch?v=vg989SQHKBM
lessermystery 11 months ago
uhhhh what was when an earthquake hit cern ????
gibgasman1 11 months ago
nemirn said: Yeah, if you can't udnerstand it just by giving it a cursory glance, then just give up.
Scientific experimentation is stupid.
I guess we'll quit our jobs. Sorry if you have cancer and are waiting for a cure.
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lessermystery 11 months ago
@lessermystery To your first statement, my point exactly. If they can't reverse engineer particles, which takes more than a cursory glance, then just smash the shit out of them. Your second statement is a non sequitur, your third statement doesn't apply, as the LHC is not looking for a cure for cancer. It's looking for theoretical particles such as the HIggs Boson and super symmetrical particles.
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lessermystery 11 months ago
@lessermystery It implies that supersymmetric particles as well as the Higgs field was present at the birth of the universe, since they are, in their own words, creating the conditions that were present at the Big Bang. If they are truly simulating the birth of the universe, it would have to mean that one of the things that were present at the dawn of time, was a particle accelerator. But that flies in the face of the theory that the big bang came from nothing.
lessermystery 11 months ago
@lessermystery These are the last responses I'm going to offer if people persist in throwing up irrelevant objections, like finding a cure for cancer, ad hominem attacks, or any other tire kicking type behaviour.
lessermystery 11 months ago
Sheldon will discover this by going on a second trip to the Arctic, WITHOUT those three other dumbasses :P
SpeedFreakNO 11 months ago
Who can translate this in german please ?
jirasaad 11 months ago
What I would like to know is when this science will produce a understanding of a level of physics that can be used to produce implementable technology to solve some of our major problems or at least advance the possibility of application so far that we get a reshaped society like our fiction of the beginning to middle of the last century ?
palladium clean energy ? fuzzy logic computers ? dipole fusion propulsion ? anti radiation emitters ? anything yet guys ?
Curas1 11 months ago
@Curas1 Radiation used in cancer research and treatment, better superconducting magnets, and the internet, to name a few. Sometimes research (in any field of study) is done just to learn more about how things work. Knowledge is useful, all by itself, since there's no telling what new inventions will come of it.
HarshColby 11 months ago
@HarshColby
I feel there being too research oriented and funding happy when more goal orientated projects would be more useful, but yes I understand you can't mandate discovery.
I'd just like to see the bottom quark discovered so we can develop new technology off of as yet undiscovered principals of science, like what could we really do if we had a theory of everything ?
Curas1 11 months ago
These particle accelerator are like a Stone Age man hitting two flints together creating sparks (only the energy is higher) He might give the sparks names like ‘Up spark’ or ‘Down spark’ over a period of time. But he could never name them all because the EM spectrum is infinite forming an infinity of possibilities.
nickharvey7 11 months ago
@nickharvey7 I don't even know where to begin explaining to you how wrong your understanding of particle physics is.
You should do a little more research.
You may end up accepting the standard model. You may not. What is certain, is that you won't say anything as silly as your comment here ever again.
t3tsuyaguy1 11 months ago
Evolution is evil and the bible is the truth!
Oh wait a sec, someone already said that here..
LiQuiDPeZ 11 months ago
are ordinary people allowed to visit this site.. i know little about particle physics but i would still like to visit it one day.
boythinks 11 months ago
@boythinks I would LOVE to visit it too!!!! :D
MrVHI123 11 months ago
Beautiful video!
Would be nice to know why a magnetic monopole would be revolutionary.
iamgoddard 11 months ago
We can recreate the Big Bang, but they can't get my fucking printer to work.
superwowie111 11 months ago 32
@superwowie111 :)
prabhatpalpal 11 months ago
@superwowie111 have you tried switching it off and then on again?
Infloresence 11 months ago 3
@superwowie111 it has to do with the collective intellect and knowledge of the people making the apparatus and operating it ;)
gulllars 11 months ago
@superwowie111
The LHC cost billions of dollars. How much was your printer?
mdiem 11 months ago 4
@superwowie111
Have you tried introducing the organic matter in front of it to an ATM? The meeting could be fruitful:)
G58 11 months ago
@superwowie111 I think you mixed up the words "we" and "they" in your question.
derman077 11 months ago 9
@superwowie111 they are scientists, not printer servicemen.
panzerveps 11 months ago
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@superwowie111
"but they can't get my fucking printer to work." You shouldn't have used the Fax/Modem earlier ...
wimscheers 11 months ago
yuuup, the only thing i understood was something about a lake and the geneva convention.
TJ201093 11 months ago
wow, if only there were alot of videos like this to learn physics
frvfilms 11 months ago
So has it found anything yet? I mean, wasn't this completed like over a year ago? What has it done?
blacksabbathgnr098 11 months ago