To me that horse isn't aggressive just rude lol aggressive horses are 'extreme' a nippy horse to me isn't aggressive, just has a lack of respect which is ahy i think it submitted so easily a truely aggressive horse would hold his ground much longer and go on the attack
My gelding has started biting recently, and i tried this very thing. took him into the pen and when he steps to me i throw my arms up, he will throw his head up but not move his feet. i cannot get his feet to move an inch and if i go to physically push him out of the way he bites at me. i do not know what to do.
i tried this on my horse who REALLY invades my space & he is WAY stronger than me all he learned from this is that he is stronger than me he has been a stallion for about 9 or more years in his life he would charge me when i lunged him so i notified his past owner and she said that when he gets cranky he is being irritated by something so she said that i need to groom him and show him love so i did that and when i did he stood there licking & chewing. this doesnt help @ all esp. on old stallions
It would have been nice to see an aggressive horse in the video.. This guy isn't very aggressive. Should have found a better student because this sin't teaching anybody anything.
@gcoxalaska.....seriously? the horse pins his ears and tries to bite her in the head and you think that 'isnt very aggressive'? at what point would you finally step in to change a horse's behaviour? before or after he killed/maimed someone? a good trainer who cares about a horse's potential future would intervene NOW before the horse is deemed dangerous and hung from a hook to become food. JMO.
@painthorselover101 All I am saying is This horse gave her one small 'moment' of nipping, she corrected him in a small way and he never nipped again. He was Rude, but not what I would call aggressive. When one charges across the pen at you with his ears pinned and all of his teeth showing or spins and double hock kicks, now Thats aggressive. I am just saying that this horse was Rude, in my opinion Not aggressive. But yes, correct him Now! Her work okay, but we don't snap the rope that much.
@gcoxalaska you are right about one thing, he wasnt what i would call a 'severe aggressor'. he was more 'mild' in the spectrum, but one good nip in the right place can do loads of damage. a friend of mine nearly got her finger bitten off by a 2yr old colt that she was afraid to dicipline because she wanted to be his friend and didnt want to hurt him. he wasnt 'severe' either, but he caused loads of pain and stitching. i've had to deal with severe agrressors before that make this guy look like a
@gcoxalaska continued- cakewalk, but you have to remember this is a clients horse. she cant show her work with a moderate or severe aggressor if she doesnt have one lol :)
My horse charges me & invades my space when lunged, always has pinned ears when I lead him, & when I ride him he tries to attack the other horses in the ring. He's very bull-headed, so it's hard to get him to listen sometimes (I'm petite). I always reprimand him for the lunging issues, but I never tried this method. I'm a little afraid to try it for fear of him attacking more fiercely than before. There are no round-pens at my barn; just a 90x200 indoor arena. Do you have any suggestions?
Defending yourself against an attack is the one and only time you should ever hit a horse in the head.One on one an aggressive horse can kill you quickly.I once innocently walked past an aggressive mare's stall and she came at me with teeth bared and almost got my ear.If she done this to another horse in a herd she'd been reprimanded
This was actually really helpful. I work with a horse who's very aggressive with leading (even attempting to bite my arms and the arms of the other people who work with him) This really helped. Though he still shows alot of aggression in the paddock at times (putting his ears back, trying to bite or charge and even turning and trying to kick out at anyone who tries to bring him inside ) if there any way to help this?
hi sorry for posting so much but im really intresed, equus really makes sense.Could you suggest any books, website links or videos about equus and/or breaking and training horses? really want to try breakin a horse but wouldnt know where to start. I've watched lots of youtube videos of training, breaking, and desensitizing that i like but they only show clips of excersices and dont explain what there for anything. do you break horses aswell? if so, please video next time and upload :D <3 equus
.... see previous post..... i read somwhere that having the girth fastened around them can feel like they're being attacked but they are used to it buy now and no it wont hurt them?? either a response in video or comment form would be greatly appreciated, big fan of your methods and work thanks :)..... ps sorry the post (s) are so long
@angle5daysaweek Nipping is just an argument about space, so push his head far enough away so you make his feet move - over just one step is sufficient, but make sure he doesn't step back into that space immediately. Never allow his head into your space, big no no in Equus. We humans reward them for entering our space, even with the nose, thinking its affection, then reprimand because they push or rub. Not fair. And no, I don't believe that old tale about the girth. It's just a new sensation.
@TheMeaTV thank you for the reply, you explain really well 'why' the horses use the behaviour and signals. You deffinitaly know and understand what you are talking about thanks :) ps love the articals on the website true inspiration xxx
@TheMeaTV Are you saying horses don't or shouldn't be allowed to show affection towards humans. They invade each others space when nuzzling or grooming. where's the harm providing they learn not to make sudden head movements or shove too much.
@WhatFuckingUsernameI No, I'm saying you step into their space to love on them. However, if your horse is respectful, then it probably doesn't matter. Reaching into your space is one component where you may lose leadership. Yes, horses groom each other, but one requests first to enter the space of the other, they don't simply reach in and go to it.
.....see previous post...... i help out in a small riding shcool and the ponies and horses there often nip ,the rest of the time they are well behaved. but i was wondering is there a way to tell the horse that is not ok using equs? most people would hit them on the muzzle but i just push their nose away and say NO in a firm voice........see next post
amzing videos, really well educated thought out and explained your videos have introduced me to equs, thank you so much :) have a few questions on other behavioral issues, but first am i correct in thinking working @ 'liberty' means without a lunge/leadrope attatched ?......... (see next post)
Excellent, excellent, excellent video on NONVIOLENT means of correcting an aggressive horse. Also the understanding that a horse that is aggressive is fearful or seeking a leader, NOT BAD OR MEAN. Just a great vid. Wish a lot more people understood these principles. There would be a lot fewer horses abandoned as "bad" and "mean."
@cholan1972 - lol, my first automatic thought, too. But, watching this carefully, I realized this old "everybody knows" piece of data was, like so much else from our "cowboy heritage", a piece of BS disinfo.
Horses read subtleties and nuances with amazing accuracy. Actions taken during "bitch fight" won't be misunderstood later, when things are normal. Horses are way too smart.
Notice that during a moment of "truce", he had no problem with her caressing his face and top of the head.
my horse constantly runs me over and steps on me all the time. when i lead her, she is always infront of me and when i try to get her to back up she gives me alot of aggresion
Impressive! Very impressive. I watched, barely breathing, fascinated by the subtlety with which this "conversation" was taking place.
Superb tutorial for those with eyes to see just what was accomplished here. (Note: that didn't seem to include the "gummybear crowd" of young girls who posted the outraged "You're-so-mean!" comments, lol.)
Teachers who can teach horses are very special. Teachers who can teach riders to teach horses are divine. :-)
@livebreathehorses - Bravo! Good decision! Yeah, horses have a "pecking order" that puts a bunch of high-school kids to shame. It's all about "social rank". They have contempt for those beneath themselves, and a kiss-azz desire to be friends with the higher-ranking ones.
I suggest you watch this vid again a few more times. Each time, you'll see something new.
And, it all won't change overnight. He may need reminders from time to time. But, it WILL happen, if you decide it will. :-)
I dont know what yall are talking about! This horse obviously has respect issues. Showing them love isnt gonna help! If your child shows disrespect do you give them a cookie and tell them you love them? NO! because that be rewarding bad behavior. 2 words... TOUGH LOVE!
I like most of the theory in this video. One thing that's neglected is the hushed tones that horses speak to eachother in. In *established* herds two horses at the highest end of the heirarchy in the herd will speak quietly and respectfully first when asking the other to move. A dominate horse who encounters the lowest member (of the day) is much more likely to act rudely and loudly to the very subordinate horse. Great to see more horsemanship like this though!
@abirdslife I think you need to watch again. He tried to bite my neck, and I swung my hands up with the rope in it to drive him back. I never touched him.
@abirdslife The quickest way to get a horse killed sent to the glue factory, hurt, orphaned, etc. is to allow a horse to dominate. That horse is presenting himself in ways that are and can be dangerous to horse and man. If any horse continues to do this and someone gets hurt, mamed or killed, that horse will probably be put down at the most or sent down the road time and again. if you love the horse you correct the problem. a horse only understands horse sense, not your good intentions.
These are so helpful, I just found them & already tried the curing aggressive behavior on the horse I ride. He's a 5 yr old 17'3 warmblood, aggressive (biting and charging) disrespectful & stubborn. He responded well. BUT only licked and chewed for maybe 20 sec. of the 40 min. He did stand quietly and respected my space. Moved his feet when I moved without coming forward and was quite attentive. But when I led him he was not great and if I moved into him he would pin his ears. Any advice? xoxo
About comment on head lowering with "nose on ground" at 2:03 is dominance signal. Was he going to snake his head?
I've heard 2 other meanings for head lowering. One as sign of submission, such as "I give", which is often mentioned with round penning & "join up". Second is lowering head as sign of relaxation & calming.
Later in video you say lowering head his head, but with licking / chewing, means submission. So I'm a bit confused about meaning between same action by horse's head/neck.
@MegF142857 Yes, most likely he was going to give me some sort of instruction, which is why I interrupted his thought with a tug. Note the difference between dropping his nose there, compared to a relaxed lowering, standing still. Head lowering usually means relaxation, even in the round pen join up. Lowering of head and stepping to you is also a request to enter your space. Check my video on "Dominance in the natural Horse" and I think you'll see.
Please say you have videos of this scenerio???? I have a TB that would join up with me, he didnt have any issues ever until one day he charged me. He reaered up and kicked me and ive had issues ever since. out side of the round pen he does fine, he listens and respects my space, but in the round pen im his enemy. What did I do to cause this? please help i like your training and ides!
@laknight99 I think you're seeing the difference between behavior on the lead compared to liberty because horses learn manners usually in training. Watch closely though when you have him on a line - if he steps to you or sticks his nose in your space at all, he is not respecting you. Watch the intro on this movie about what happens when the chestnut puts her nose on the gray. Your horse is probably giving you subtle sings on the line that show his disrespect, he's just learned he can't attack.
@laknight99 For your safety, work with him on the lead making sure that he never enters your space. He doesn't have to touch you or bump into you to exceed your space boundary. Watch this video closely - when he even rocks forward thinking of taking a step, I push him back out. If you've told him to stand, he cannot move his feet Ever, until you tell him to.If you work at liberty, carry a whip to accent your space - if he even looks at you with ears back, smack the ground in front of you.
Please excuse my question, but I was wondering why you are using the lead rope at all. How would equus work in the round pen without a lead rope? Wouldn't it be even more easy, as the rope is probably an intervening item? Thank you for posting your very instructive videos!!!
This is an excellent question, thank you. You're right. I can move the horse around in the round pen and gain respect without the lead line. BUT,this is not about what I can do with a horse. My responsibility is to assure that the owner can overcome the problem, feel safe and confident within her current abilities. This "discussion" is about leadership, it doesn't automatically transfer.The owner must be able to learn tor relate to her horse NOW. I teach communication between horse and owner.
Thank you for your quick reply! I did not know it was your job to teach the owner of the horse how to "discuss" leadership. I thought this was about how to communicate most naturally with the horse and gain its confidence and trust in your leadership. Anyways, I really like your approach and videos! Thanks again and please keep posting!!!
You definitely get points for working with Arabians, on camera. And hit some of the issues my national show horse has with nipping/aggression, calming down and rearing. I didn't recognize why he responded so much better to flicking the rope or your hand when lounging. Will definitely check out the book.
@taointhebryony Now, now, your national show horse is most likely as intelligent, sensitive, and friendly as my Arabians. This video is actually of a 2 year old warmblood. It's not the breed - it's Horse. Equus is Equus. Each horse, each breed, has it's own personality for us to enjoy. I hope you enjoy the information. Thank you.
Yes great info, but we would appreciate a little life and energy in the explanations. If not the monotounous voice might lol you into unvoluntary eye resting and deep breathing and by this miss the whole lesson. We all teach in some way or other and must continuosly find ways to maintain the interest of those giving us their attention. Thank you.
@akanewe I understand. One of the reasons I sound that way , especially on this video is that no emotion can be delivered to the horse at a time when your adrenalin is high and perhaps fearful of an attack The horse is not emotional about aggression - this is just how he claims his space- with his teeth or his kick or strike. So my voice expresses what I must also express to the horse. I must deliver calm, intentional intent - and I can see how in human terms you might think it is monotonous.
@TheMeaTV I really liked your attitude of calm assertiveness. That came across very well with the tone and manner in video and how you presented yourself to the horse, IMO.
@TheMeaTV lol I LIKE the calm manner in which she speaks. This is one of the best videos I've seen amid all the nonsense one finds on youtube from wannabe trainers. Looking forward to more from you.
To me that horse isn't aggressive just rude lol aggressive horses are 'extreme' a nippy horse to me isn't aggressive, just has a lack of respect which is ahy i think it submitted so easily a truely aggressive horse would hold his ground much longer and go on the attack
DeathKitty123456 1 day ago
Thank You this video really helped me with my horse we have alot of the same issues
kaylikaykay 6 days ago
Very nice! Clear, precise signals. Thankyou.
Deej496 2 weeks ago
My gelding has started biting recently, and i tried this very thing. took him into the pen and when he steps to me i throw my arms up, he will throw his head up but not move his feet. i cannot get his feet to move an inch and if i go to physically push him out of the way he bites at me. i do not know what to do.
hsvkatie27 4 weeks ago
kitty!
OnTheBit23 1 month ago
i tried this on my horse who REALLY invades my space & he is WAY stronger than me all he learned from this is that he is stronger than me he has been a stallion for about 9 or more years in his life he would charge me when i lunged him so i notified his past owner and she said that when he gets cranky he is being irritated by something so she said that i need to groom him and show him love so i did that and when i did he stood there licking & chewing. this doesnt help @ all esp. on old stallions
lilhorsegurl 2 months ago
It would have been nice to see an aggressive horse in the video.. This guy isn't very aggressive. Should have found a better student because this sin't teaching anybody anything.
gcoxalaska 2 months ago
@gcoxalaska.....seriously? the horse pins his ears and tries to bite her in the head and you think that 'isnt very aggressive'? at what point would you finally step in to change a horse's behaviour? before or after he killed/maimed someone? a good trainer who cares about a horse's potential future would intervene NOW before the horse is deemed dangerous and hung from a hook to become food. JMO.
painthorselover101 1 month ago
@painthorselover101 All I am saying is This horse gave her one small 'moment' of nipping, she corrected him in a small way and he never nipped again. He was Rude, but not what I would call aggressive. When one charges across the pen at you with his ears pinned and all of his teeth showing or spins and double hock kicks, now Thats aggressive. I am just saying that this horse was Rude, in my opinion Not aggressive. But yes, correct him Now! Her work okay, but we don't snap the rope that much.
gcoxalaska 1 month ago
@gcoxalaska you are right about one thing, he wasnt what i would call a 'severe aggressor'. he was more 'mild' in the spectrum, but one good nip in the right place can do loads of damage. a friend of mine nearly got her finger bitten off by a 2yr old colt that she was afraid to dicipline because she wanted to be his friend and didnt want to hurt him. he wasnt 'severe' either, but he caused loads of pain and stitching. i've had to deal with severe agrressors before that make this guy look like a
painthorselover101 1 month ago
@gcoxalaska continued- cakewalk, but you have to remember this is a clients horse. she cant show her work with a moderate or severe aggressor if she doesnt have one lol :)
painthorselover101 1 month ago
My horse charges me & invades my space when lunged, always has pinned ears when I lead him, & when I ride him he tries to attack the other horses in the ring. He's very bull-headed, so it's hard to get him to listen sometimes (I'm petite). I always reprimand him for the lunging issues, but I never tried this method. I'm a little afraid to try it for fear of him attacking more fiercely than before. There are no round-pens at my barn; just a 90x200 indoor arena. Do you have any suggestions?
C00kieM0nster07 2 months ago
Defending yourself against an attack is the one and only time you should ever hit a horse in the head.One on one an aggressive horse can kill you quickly.I once innocently walked past an aggressive mare's stall and she came at me with teeth bared and almost got my ear.If she done this to another horse in a herd she'd been reprimanded
parrot2me 3 months ago
take the bit out and let him bite you
MickeyLove01 4 months ago
This was actually really helpful. I work with a horse who's very aggressive with leading (even attempting to bite my arms and the arms of the other people who work with him) This really helped. Though he still shows alot of aggression in the paddock at times (putting his ears back, trying to bite or charge and even turning and trying to kick out at anyone who tries to bring him inside ) if there any way to help this?
BreathOfCrimson 6 months ago
hi sorry for posting so much but im really intresed, equus really makes sense.Could you suggest any books, website links or videos about equus and/or breaking and training horses? really want to try breakin a horse but wouldnt know where to start. I've watched lots of youtube videos of training, breaking, and desensitizing that i like but they only show clips of excersices and dont explain what there for anything. do you break horses aswell? if so, please video next time and upload :D <3 equus
angle5daysaweek 6 months ago
.... see previous post..... i read somwhere that having the girth fastened around them can feel like they're being attacked but they are used to it buy now and no it wont hurt them?? either a response in video or comment form would be greatly appreciated, big fan of your methods and work thanks :)..... ps sorry the post (s) are so long
angle5daysaweek 6 months ago
@angle5daysaweek Nipping is just an argument about space, so push his head far enough away so you make his feet move - over just one step is sufficient, but make sure he doesn't step back into that space immediately. Never allow his head into your space, big no no in Equus. We humans reward them for entering our space, even with the nose, thinking its affection, then reprimand because they push or rub. Not fair. And no, I don't believe that old tale about the girth. It's just a new sensation.
TheMeaTV 6 months ago
@TheMeaTV thank you for the reply, you explain really well 'why' the horses use the behaviour and signals. You deffinitaly know and understand what you are talking about thanks :) ps love the articals on the website true inspiration xxx
angle5daysaweek 6 months ago
pps : what does MEA stand for? im guessing Marlis ----- armato? thanks
angle5daysaweek 6 months ago
@angle5daysaweek MEA stands for Mirroring Equine Attitude. Coincidentally, it's also my initials.
TheMeaTV 6 months ago
@TheMeaTV Turning around and nipping when saddling can mean pain.
Saence 5 months ago
@TheMeaTV Are you saying horses don't or shouldn't be allowed to show affection towards humans. They invade each others space when nuzzling or grooming. where's the harm providing they learn not to make sudden head movements or shove too much.
WhatFuckingUsernameI 1 month ago
@WhatFuckingUsernameI No, I'm saying you step into their space to love on them. However, if your horse is respectful, then it probably doesn't matter. Reaching into your space is one component where you may lose leadership. Yes, horses groom each other, but one requests first to enter the space of the other, they don't simply reach in and go to it.
TheMeaTV 1 month ago
.....see previous post...... i help out in a small riding shcool and the ponies and horses there often nip ,the rest of the time they are well behaved. but i was wondering is there a way to tell the horse that is not ok using equs? most people would hit them on the muzzle but i just push their nose away and say NO in a firm voice........see next post
angle5daysaweek 6 months ago
amzing videos, really well educated thought out and explained your videos have introduced me to equs, thank you so much :) have a few questions on other behavioral issues, but first am i correct in thinking working @ 'liberty' means without a lunge/leadrope attatched ?......... (see next post)
angle5daysaweek 6 months ago
Excellent, excellent, excellent video on NONVIOLENT means of correcting an aggressive horse. Also the understanding that a horse that is aggressive is fearful or seeking a leader, NOT BAD OR MEAN. Just a great vid. Wish a lot more people understood these principles. There would be a lot fewer horses abandoned as "bad" and "mean."
jibbberjabbber666 7 months ago
I see some serious HEAD SHY issues being created. Tell me if I'm wrong?
cholan1972 8 months ago
@cholan1972 - lol, my first automatic thought, too. But, watching this carefully, I realized this old "everybody knows" piece of data was, like so much else from our "cowboy heritage", a piece of BS disinfo.
Horses read subtleties and nuances with amazing accuracy. Actions taken during "bitch fight" won't be misunderstood later, when things are normal. Horses are way too smart.
Notice that during a moment of "truce", he had no problem with her caressing his face and top of the head.
nameofthepen 8 months ago
my horse constantly runs me over and steps on me all the time. when i lead her, she is always infront of me and when i try to get her to back up she gives me alot of aggresion
CowboyChaser121 8 months ago
All this horse is trying to do is understand what the hell you want from him.
When he comes close to you YOU attack him. He tries to avoid getting smashed to the face while you attack him.
Notice the ears? Thees are not showing any agression but confusion.
Your answer is to continue with attacking him and provocing him.
He starts licking and chewing because he is confused. Then you quit this shit and only thing that horse learnt was that you are an asshole.
Roki1998 9 months ago
@Roki1998 I totally agree with you, this is total, utter,incredible rubbish!!!
essereinumano 8 months ago
@Roki1998 I agree!
MultiAneStorm 8 months ago
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@Roki1998 I agree!
MultiAneStorm 8 months ago
Impressive! Very impressive. I watched, barely breathing, fascinated by the subtlety with which this "conversation" was taking place.
Superb tutorial for those with eyes to see just what was accomplished here. (Note: that didn't seem to include the "gummybear crowd" of young girls who posted the outraged "You're-so-mean!" comments, lol.)
Teachers who can teach horses are very special. Teachers who can teach riders to teach horses are divine. :-)
nameofthepen 10 months ago
@nameofthepen me too! i will definetly try this on my trouble horse who does the exact same thing!
livebreathehorses 8 months ago
@livebreathehorses - Bravo! Good decision! Yeah, horses have a "pecking order" that puts a bunch of high-school kids to shame. It's all about "social rank". They have contempt for those beneath themselves, and a kiss-azz desire to be friends with the higher-ranking ones.
I suggest you watch this vid again a few more times. Each time, you'll see something new.
And, it all won't change overnight. He may need reminders from time to time. But, it WILL happen, if you decide it will. :-)
nameofthepen 8 months ago
I dont know what yall are talking about! This horse obviously has respect issues. Showing them love isnt gonna help! If your child shows disrespect do you give them a cookie and tell them you love them? NO! because that be rewarding bad behavior. 2 words... TOUGH LOVE!
KaylaAnna1995 1 year ago
When you swing back, your teaching him 2 wrongs make a right. You have to think like a horse, not like a human.
GraciexChannel 1 year ago
I would have probably round penned him first. I think that you have a much softer touch then i would have had.
heidimule 1 year ago
I like most of the theory in this video. One thing that's neglected is the hushed tones that horses speak to eachother in. In *established* herds two horses at the highest end of the heirarchy in the herd will speak quietly and respectfully first when asking the other to move. A dominate horse who encounters the lowest member (of the day) is much more likely to act rudely and loudly to the very subordinate horse. Great to see more horsemanship like this though!
TCVfan1 1 year ago
This is great, it's obvious that the horses behavior is being challenged/corrected by his body language, he's frustrated but getting the picture.
Just wondering if there are horses too aggressive to try this with?
Also sheds some light on just how huge a role warhorses would have played when they were employed as such.
IDGAFcoolface 1 year ago
why the hell are you whacking him in his face obviously he is gonna bite you dumb head
aliceloveshorses3 1 year ago
u said to stirke tour horse with a crop.? thats never a way to fix the problem it makes it worse you fix the problem by being gentl and loveing
anniesgrace 1 year ago
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abirdslife 1 year ago 2
@abirdslife I think you need to watch again. He tried to bite my neck, and I swung my hands up with the rope in it to drive him back. I never touched him.
TheMeaTV 1 year ago 2
@abirdslife The quickest way to get a horse killed sent to the glue factory, hurt, orphaned, etc. is to allow a horse to dominate. That horse is presenting himself in ways that are and can be dangerous to horse and man. If any horse continues to do this and someone gets hurt, mamed or killed, that horse will probably be put down at the most or sent down the road time and again. if you love the horse you correct the problem. a horse only understands horse sense, not your good intentions.
1too12 1 year ago
@abirdslife I have to agree, being smacked in the jaw with metal would make me bite your head off.
jstalilred 11 months ago 2
@jstalilred she never hit it with metal? and if she did i shouldnt matter, a horse should not bite anyone
CowboyChaser121 8 months ago
@CowboyChaser121 0:44, 1:13 and the entire time the guy just aggravated him.
jstalilred 8 months ago
@jstalilred it doesnt matter. and if we didnt "aggrivate" horses then they would be completly dominant over us
CowboyChaser121 8 months ago
@abirdslife It's called training.
garfieldzgirl 10 months ago
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abirdslife 10 months ago
@abirdslife Well how do you know if it' been naughty
garfieldzgirl 10 months ago
These are so helpful, I just found them & already tried the curing aggressive behavior on the horse I ride. He's a 5 yr old 17'3 warmblood, aggressive (biting and charging) disrespectful & stubborn. He responded well. BUT only licked and chewed for maybe 20 sec. of the 40 min. He did stand quietly and respected my space. Moved his feet when I moved without coming forward and was quite attentive. But when I led him he was not great and if I moved into him he would pin his ears. Any advice? xoxo
starfishmaui 1 year ago
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atvkyra 1 year ago
About comment on head lowering with "nose on ground" at 2:03 is dominance signal. Was he going to snake his head?
I've heard 2 other meanings for head lowering. One as sign of submission, such as "I give", which is often mentioned with round penning & "join up". Second is lowering head as sign of relaxation & calming.
Later in video you say lowering head his head, but with licking / chewing, means submission. So I'm a bit confused about meaning between same action by horse's head/neck.
MegF142857 1 year ago
@MegF142857 Yes, most likely he was going to give me some sort of instruction, which is why I interrupted his thought with a tug. Note the difference between dropping his nose there, compared to a relaxed lowering, standing still. Head lowering usually means relaxation, even in the round pen join up. Lowering of head and stepping to you is also a request to enter your space. Check my video on "Dominance in the natural Horse" and I think you'll see.
TheMeaTV 1 year ago
Please say you have videos of this scenerio???? I have a TB that would join up with me, he didnt have any issues ever until one day he charged me. He reaered up and kicked me and ive had issues ever since. out side of the round pen he does fine, he listens and respects my space, but in the round pen im his enemy. What did I do to cause this? please help i like your training and ides!
laknight99 1 year ago
@laknight99 I think you're seeing the difference between behavior on the lead compared to liberty because horses learn manners usually in training. Watch closely though when you have him on a line - if he steps to you or sticks his nose in your space at all, he is not respecting you. Watch the intro on this movie about what happens when the chestnut puts her nose on the gray. Your horse is probably giving you subtle sings on the line that show his disrespect, he's just learned he can't attack.
TheMeaTV 1 year ago
@laknight99 For your safety, work with him on the lead making sure that he never enters your space. He doesn't have to touch you or bump into you to exceed your space boundary. Watch this video closely - when he even rocks forward thinking of taking a step, I push him back out. If you've told him to stand, he cannot move his feet Ever, until you tell him to.If you work at liberty, carry a whip to accent your space - if he even looks at you with ears back, smack the ground in front of you.
TheMeaTV 1 year ago
Hallelujah some sensible horse training on Youtube!
0Kazeshini0 1 year ago
Please excuse my question, but I was wondering why you are using the lead rope at all. How would equus work in the round pen without a lead rope? Wouldn't it be even more easy, as the rope is probably an intervening item? Thank you for posting your very instructive videos!!!
WuerstchenundBier 1 year ago
This is an excellent question, thank you. You're right. I can move the horse around in the round pen and gain respect without the lead line. BUT,this is not about what I can do with a horse. My responsibility is to assure that the owner can overcome the problem, feel safe and confident within her current abilities. This "discussion" is about leadership, it doesn't automatically transfer.The owner must be able to learn tor relate to her horse NOW. I teach communication between horse and owner.
TheMeaTV 1 year ago
@TheMeaTV
Thank you for your quick reply! I did not know it was your job to teach the owner of the horse how to "discuss" leadership. I thought this was about how to communicate most naturally with the horse and gain its confidence and trust in your leadership. Anyways, I really like your approach and videos! Thanks again and please keep posting!!!
WuerstchenundBier 1 year ago
You definitely get points for working with Arabians, on camera. And hit some of the issues my national show horse has with nipping/aggression, calming down and rearing. I didn't recognize why he responded so much better to flicking the rope or your hand when lounging. Will definitely check out the book.
taointhebryony 1 year ago
@taointhebryony Now, now, your national show horse is most likely as intelligent, sensitive, and friendly as my Arabians. This video is actually of a 2 year old warmblood. It's not the breed - it's Horse. Equus is Equus. Each horse, each breed, has it's own personality for us to enjoy. I hope you enjoy the information. Thank you.
TheMeaTV 1 year ago
Yes great info, but we would appreciate a little life and energy in the explanations. If not the monotounous voice might lol you into unvoluntary eye resting and deep breathing and by this miss the whole lesson. We all teach in some way or other and must continuosly find ways to maintain the interest of those giving us their attention. Thank you.
akanewe 1 year ago
@akanewe I understand. One of the reasons I sound that way , especially on this video is that no emotion can be delivered to the horse at a time when your adrenalin is high and perhaps fearful of an attack The horse is not emotional about aggression - this is just how he claims his space- with his teeth or his kick or strike. So my voice expresses what I must also express to the horse. I must deliver calm, intentional intent - and I can see how in human terms you might think it is monotonous.
TheMeaTV 1 year ago
@TheMeaTV I really liked your attitude of calm assertiveness. That came across very well with the tone and manner in video and how you presented yourself to the horse, IMO.
MegF142857 1 year ago
@TheMeaTV lol I LIKE the calm manner in which she speaks. This is one of the best videos I've seen amid all the nonsense one finds on youtube from wannabe trainers. Looking forward to more from you.
Yambeau 1 year ago
I like this video, explains alot how you should interact with horses.
BabaaNii 1 year ago
Wow, very very interesting! thank you for sharing! Very well explained and easy to understand
animallover017 1 year ago
Excellent video...explains it very well.
blueshadowes 1 year ago