What is the advantage to flying without the gyros turned on? What do you gain by turning them off? wouldn't it be easier and safer to fly with the breaker IN? Please advise. I am ignorant wrt non R/C full size helicopters.. thanks
@MrBraden007 - The Robinson checklist never says to turn off the governor except when it malfunctions. For me, and what I teach, i say to leave it off until you are ready to bring the rpms up to 100%. It eliminates that potential risk of the governor taking the aircraft up to 100% when you the pilot are not prepared.
So, off until ready for flight. Leave it on in flight.
Here is a question for. Do you need gyros on a perfectly good clear sunny day where you can see 20+ miles? Like i said in the video, I turn them on at night or on days where you can possibly get into clouds. Do you think the Robinson pilots at the factory use checklists on their 50 flights a day in the same aircraft?
All students learning to fly, a checklist is a must, hands down.
When I do tours I don't use the checklist, but if I'm instructing I make sure we use one.
@michaelmiller85 thats definitely true, if you fly any light aircraft commercially the checklist should be committed to memory anyway, and good flows should be used. I like the video, one thing I saw that could possibly be misconstrued by inexperienced pilots is the temp gauge comment, Ive had a few of those stick in place (flying in a temperate environment) where you could not tell if they were working correctly until runup. Thanks for the video!
This guy is brilliant...not using the checklist...recipe for disaster...also real bright to leave the gyros off line...right when you punch in is when you want to be reaching down to push in a circuit breaker
Ur stupid Longknife03, I can GUARANTEE U "IF" there are clouds round his cruising alt. Im will to put 200 bucks down that he'll push in the circut breaker WHEN going through his check list, BUT if there are no clouds and its a bright sunny day u don't need to even worry bout it. ALSO he probably has WAY more hours then you do, he's an instructor and knows what he's doing and has the lists memorized.
WOW $200 bucks...big spender....come talk to me when you have punched in on a day that was supposed to be clear blue and twenty two and the weather goes to hell on you in a mountain pass and you punch in and have to climb to minimal obstacle clearance altitude to safely recover, also, people who have to reach down to activate something sometimes get something called vertigo when they look down and quickly look back up and try to reorient to the instruments...
@cwiller That is just wrong. One thing is having it memorized another thing is checking things. For R22 I have the procedures memorized but I always use a checklist. I would rather trust a pilot who uses a checklist than one that only does it by memory. Checklist is a way of ensure that you do not forget anything that you memorized.
We are humans, not machines, and we tend to screw up so use a checklist to help you check what you did by memory.
@Focha if you show up in Canada for a check flight or PPC and use a checklist, you fail. I know the FAA is huge on checklists, I have a FAA - CPL too, but just because you need a checklist, doesn't make it "wrong". ;)
@cwiller Excuse me?!? I am sure I mis read you, surely you mean if you do NOT use a checklist you will fail....Guess what, I have my CPL/IR and the hardline policy is at the school and in real life that you use a checklist....Memorizing is great, but it has to be backed up..I will never forget the humiliation when I was trying to start a Seminole with the mags still off (no key) just cos I didn't bother reaching the checklist, cos I was "in a hurry". that just sucks, could have been fatal fuckup
@cwiller haha, Canadians. I can see not using a checklist in a 152 or something. I learned to fly without a checklist but now that I'm a CFI I use them religiously and have my students use them. Their benefits are impossible to ignore, a real display of ignorance for Canada, unless the intent is for the pilot to demonstrate complete mastery of the systems and procedures, but that bit about the customers not trusting a pilot who uses the checklist is complete bullshit.
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jwrh1988 1 month ago
What is the advantage to flying without the gyros turned on? What do you gain by turning them off? wouldn't it be easier and safer to fly with the breaker IN? Please advise. I am ignorant wrt non R/C full size helicopters.. thanks
perryinjax 5 months ago
"Please excuse the flip flops" LOL!!! Nice video very interesting!!
MrAviator81 10 months ago
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MrAviator81 10 months ago
Michael... Where do u get your foot ware? Nice xx And thats not Scripted..Terry x
tankertel 1 year ago
only 360p :(
mi8ts 1 year ago
when you are all started up, and running, when you go to lift off
do you just lift up on the collective and it floats or do you have to balance with the pedals and cyclic(spelling) Does it pull when you lift off??
i want to become a pilot to fly helicopters after highschool. but still have 4years of collage to to to!!!haha
Thanks
mifan93 1 year ago
hi mike, When you say that you turn the govener off, is that only in start up, and not during flight ?
from still saving.
MrBraden007 1 year ago
@MrBraden007 - The Robinson checklist never says to turn off the governor except when it malfunctions. For me, and what I teach, i say to leave it off until you are ready to bring the rpms up to 100%. It eliminates that potential risk of the governor taking the aircraft up to 100% when you the pilot are not prepared.
So, off until ready for flight. Leave it on in flight.
michaelmiller85 1 year ago
Yeah, it was before we opened up for business. Flip flops are great, but don't look the most professional, unfortunately. :(
michaelmiller85 1 year ago
nice shoes pilotman.
svend79 1 year ago
Great vids man!! I hope you are still in severville this summer..I would love to fly a intro flight with you.
Bowhunner22 2 years ago
Nope, not yet and hope I never will.
michaelmiller85 2 years ago
Gone through any ring gear yet?
elmo575 2 years ago
Here is a question for. Do you need gyros on a perfectly good clear sunny day where you can see 20+ miles? Like i said in the video, I turn them on at night or on days where you can possibly get into clouds. Do you think the Robinson pilots at the factory use checklists on their 50 flights a day in the same aircraft?
All students learning to fly, a checklist is a must, hands down.
When I do tours I don't use the checklist, but if I'm instructing I make sure we use one.
Use good judgment.
michaelmiller85 2 years ago
@michaelmiller85 thats definitely true, if you fly any light aircraft commercially the checklist should be committed to memory anyway, and good flows should be used. I like the video, one thing I saw that could possibly be misconstrued by inexperienced pilots is the temp gauge comment, Ive had a few of those stick in place (flying in a temperate environment) where you could not tell if they were working correctly until runup. Thanks for the video!
strangemarley 2 years ago
This guy is brilliant...not using the checklist...recipe for disaster...also real bright to leave the gyros off line...right when you punch in is when you want to be reaching down to push in a circuit breaker
Longknife03 2 years ago
Ur stupid Longknife03, I can GUARANTEE U "IF" there are clouds round his cruising alt. Im will to put 200 bucks down that he'll push in the circut breaker WHEN going through his check list, BUT if there are no clouds and its a bright sunny day u don't need to even worry bout it. ALSO he probably has WAY more hours then you do, he's an instructor and knows what he's doing and has the lists memorized.
Mockeraina 2 years ago
WOW $200 bucks...big spender....come talk to me when you have punched in on a day that was supposed to be clear blue and twenty two and the weather goes to hell on you in a mountain pass and you punch in and have to climb to minimal obstacle clearance altitude to safely recover, also, people who have to reach down to activate something sometimes get something called vertigo when they look down and quickly look back up and try to reorient to the instruments...
Longknife03 2 years ago
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Mockeraina 2 years ago
if you use a checklist in Canada, the clients will ask for another pilot. you should have it memorized. this is not IFR ;)
cwiller 1 year ago
@cwiller I prefer to always have the checklist. I feel it's just better not to miss anything.
cbcnate 1 year ago
@cwiller That is just wrong. One thing is having it memorized another thing is checking things. For R22 I have the procedures memorized but I always use a checklist. I would rather trust a pilot who uses a checklist than one that only does it by memory. Checklist is a way of ensure that you do not forget anything that you memorized.
We are humans, not machines, and we tend to screw up so use a checklist to help you check what you did by memory.
Regards.
Focha 1 year ago
@Focha if you show up in Canada for a check flight or PPC and use a checklist, you fail. I know the FAA is huge on checklists, I have a FAA - CPL too, but just because you need a checklist, doesn't make it "wrong". ;)
cwiller 1 year ago
@cwiller Excuse me?!? I am sure I mis read you, surely you mean if you do NOT use a checklist you will fail....Guess what, I have my CPL/IR and the hardline policy is at the school and in real life that you use a checklist....Memorizing is great, but it has to be backed up..I will never forget the humiliation when I was trying to start a Seminole with the mags still off (no key) just cos I didn't bother reaching the checklist, cos I was "in a hurry". that just sucks, could have been fatal fuckup
Easyjet8810 1 year ago
@cwiller haha, Canadians. I can see not using a checklist in a 152 or something. I learned to fly without a checklist but now that I'm a CFI I use them religiously and have my students use them. Their benefits are impossible to ignore, a real display of ignorance for Canada, unless the intent is for the pilot to demonstrate complete mastery of the systems and procedures, but that bit about the customers not trusting a pilot who uses the checklist is complete bullshit.
markoras1 1 year ago