they make it sound like they r the first women in PAF, which is not true. Women have always been a part of pakistan air force in medicine, engineering and control wings.
They also dont look like the first batch of pilots in PAF. I think those were 4 different women ... before these ones
It takes massive balls to fly warplanes. Women are weak of heart? Tell that to the female aces of the Soviet air forces during the Second World War. I honestly don't care if the person defending my homeland is male or female but whether they are the best.
there is no airforce in the world including america whose women are flying combat fighter. and they can't be. Its reality. its just showoff showing on media such type of things.wasting the money, energies and fuel money for such causes.
My opinion!! Iran and Nord Korea are placed for injustice with these sanctions Big protest I recommend changing in FN four more Nations as a permanent members of security council IRAN BRAZIL LYBIA SYRIEN,,,,,I´m not surprised that East Timor showed op at the last second and was chosen instead of Iran in a department within FN. An old APPROACH,,,,, mar kjartansson 24t blog Mingler.dk
nothing wrong to be a pilot but not to serve our country; there is a hadith that muslim has two things fear (khof) or Iman obviously I do not see any Iman in her.except other pilot sisters. I see fear on her face and she will never serve my country. I am really embarrass to see her in Pakistan force. we will pray for her iman because she is our sister in Islam May Allah guide us all. Amin
Great women. I am simply proud on them. When Ambreen say that my mother tell me how will you do it, I have tears in my eyes. She was so delighted at the moment that give me a hope for this nation. We have lots of lots of potentials in our women but they are least exploited. I proud on these young girls more than anyone else.
Dear, do not put India or America as your holy grail of every thing. We are Muslims, and we know our limits. Those who call them selves Muslims and commit heinous crimes , are Muslim by name, not by deeds.
Really ?, are u a muslim ? How many times to u pray in a day? be honest. A person who does not pray is a non muslim. kaafir. And how many women cover their hair in pakistan and india. A woman who does not cover her body parts and hair will never enter jannat. i know what kind of muslims u r. The fact is that u think u r a muslim but u r not. c how confident i m. i dont even know u but I KNOW THAT YOU DONT PRAY. so stop calling urself a muslim. because the only difference is salaat. pray.
you wrote "A person who does not pray is a non muslim."
Actually, a person who says that a "A person who does not pray is a non muslim." is a shallow individual upon whom the message of the religion he professes to speak for is lost. What you follow is the message of the priesthood, not that of Islam.
Wow, you don't know me, nor you know about my Prayer habits etc, but you have given a self made fatwa by saying that "I KNOW THAT YOU DONT PRAY" , thats good, I pray or not, its between me and Allah, but what you are doing is what is called a "FITNA" do read about it in Surah Bakkara & Alle-Imran and get back to me. By the way, First find the meaning of "Hijab" from arabic to whatever language you know, then criticize. Sorry for 8months late reply, just saw ur post.
This West want to preach us about women's rights, but it's Islamic countries like Bangladesh that have women presidents, America never had a woman presidents.
Islam gave women there rights 1400yrs ago, not in 1990s like the West.
@sachgap plz dont give false references. muslim in war ? when ? the concept of mehram and namehram is very strict and clear. if there had been any cases of women in war , let me give u the detail. they used to dress up completely in parda. And they were the people of THE KHAIR . gud age.i mean in those times ppl were pious . now the humanity is on the brink of turning into satans. people are ruled by their own nafs.They wud do sex even with their own mothers , daughters. previously no 1 cud
dear sahabia's use to work in ghazwah's along with muslims, even took part in physical war, when kufars invaded makkah/madina. Our muslim women should be trained in arts of war, so that they can defend them selves, their honor and family, instead of taking their own lives in fear of molestation. by the way, Pardah was a very late incarnation in Islam, plus ppl who sleep with their mothers/daughters/sisters were present at that time as well.
this is all rubbish. Islam never ask women to go out and fight. but they should look out the children and the house. Even the jihad for women is their hujj
@brotherpsych equality , not mixing . Rights to own , rights to be free in thoughts , inheritance . Not free to go anywhere and wear anything and sleep with anyone. We need to educate ourselves in Islam more. What is the definition of freedom and rights in Islam. dont get me wrong. im not one of them old schools. i live in uk. But cleared so many misconseptions in my mind after studying about Islam.There are boundaries set for us by Allah . we know to know them.
Well guys this report of CNN shows that Pakistan is not about just terrorrism and bombing inoccent but that we are Educated Rational and Sophisticated Nation and women are playing major roles to make PAKISTAN AND PAKISTANIS proud
Women have the ability to do every thing possible tht a man can do or ever think of.Science and facts have proven this so those ppl with little minds who are bent upon pushink religious facts must kindly grow up.Its abt time. And let me also tell u that it is not becuz women have weaker hearts that they are not made to fight in the forefront for fear of being sympathetic towards the enemy,
I am a male but I think we should avoid discrimination.. "MEN who call the shots" because you have never given women a chance to call the shot.. why not try Hina or Gul ??
Dude, you got it all wrong. It's not about descrimination. It's a man's responsibilty to save her woman. If you look into the Islamic history, female did participate in wars, but they were there to support their men. It has always been a man who has fought in the battlefield. Even in the PAF, whenever the tension escalates between Insia and Pakistan, you wll always find male fighter pilots patroling the borders. However, female deserve equal rights and respect in whichever fields they are.
that's a fact but my dear they have never given a chance to show their capabilities that's why you never saw them in the battlefield :) how can you judge someone if he/she is not tried yet ? btw Pakistan is the only country which has female Generals in army :)
I am giving you a simple example so that everyone can understand. A boy learns driving a car faster than a girl. I myself learned driving a car without any help. All I know is I drag the car out of the car porch secretly and the next moment I was driving it on the streets by the grace of Allah . Same as with flying, a man would learn faster than a girl. What a man does in one go, a woman would do it in 10 attempts.
Well on a given day, who knows a female fighter pilot might make history. But on the whole, they lack both aptitude and attitude. Providing a job opportunity is one thing and safe guarding the borders is another. I can provide you both scientific and religious reasons why women can never be a good fighter pilot, but for that I have to send you an email, since I can't write a whole story here in comment box :)
Thanks.. but that religious points must be an interpretation of some "dharti ke khuda" or Dukandaar mullah.. anyway.. you have your own opinion I have mine :).. and I do respect yours..
Dear brother, firstly I abhor Mullahism. Most of the Mullahs are disgrace to Islam. My religious points are based on what the Noble Quran says.
Men are the protectors and maintainers of women, because Allah has made one of them to excel the other, and because they spend (to support them) from their means. [Al-Nisa 4:34]
Lastly, the Israeli Air Force which claims to be the no.1, even they dont send their female pilots to bomb poor Palestinians. Because a woman is gentle at heart and is full of emotions and that might effect her decision making. Fighter pilot is not all about flying skills. Your attitude, composure, & nerves of steel are tested while you undergo training at Risalpur Academy or any other academy.
The reason why I gave the example of the Israeli Air Force was, they hardly face any genuine threat, but still they dont rely on female fighter pilots. As for the PAF, it's been a year since they are combating the insurgents, they too, have not given a chance to the female pilots. Moreover, when we calculate the number of aircrafts that India has, the ratio is like 4:1, which adds insult to injury. In these circumstances, there's no room for experimentation.
Dude actually it's the other way round. For your kind information, India has deployed more Air and ground forces on the western borders as compared to the eastern borders. India is least bothered about Bangladesh and China since China is busy becoming the Super Power and can't afford to attack India unless provoked. As for the PAF, from 1986 to 1988 three Su-22 and two Mig-23 were burnt to ashes during Afghan War. Pakistan is in great danger now and the Armed forces are well aware of this fact.
improvement is must but we should look at the facts as well.. more than 80% Chinese people thinks that INDIA is the biggest threat to them.. China is a more bigger threat to India than Pakistan.. look at what's going on in the eastern states of India and what's going on the water issue btw India & China.. :)
next thing we know Pakistan will be shuttling terrorists in these jets...
DocUnsane 7 months ago
good
hasnat7 7 months ago
equality :)
ChocolateLoverHAHA 7 months ago
@ChocolateLoverHAHA Where are you from?
RayKalmNiam 7 months ago
"they are more focused than us" guy is soooooooo sexyyyy @ 1:11 omg hassan masood
khurramw1isstillhere 8 months ago
"they are more focused than us" guy is soooooooo sexyyyy @ 1:11
khurramw1isstillhere 8 months ago
paki taliban chick! She has suicide bomber traing?
MrSabot88 8 months ago
ah why did they not recruit girls 10 years before. i wanted to be a fighter pilot.
fwd1976 8 months ago
i think 5 americans or indians dont like this video
httpwww85 9 months ago 2
Thats excellent!
femtophysiker 9 months ago
wah moderen time that my sister will fight with my enemies so that she can do that just for this reason i show my sister to them
MrJanjua00 10 months ago
wah moderen time that my sister will fight with my enemies
MrJanjua00 10 months ago
they make it sound like they r the first women in PAF, which is not true. Women have always been a part of pakistan air force in medicine, engineering and control wings.
They also dont look like the first batch of pilots in PAF. I think those were 4 different women ... before these ones
maryamirza 10 months ago
It takes massive balls to fly warplanes. Women are weak of heart? Tell that to the female aces of the Soviet air forces during the Second World War. I honestly don't care if the person defending my homeland is male or female but whether they are the best.
qasimahsan93 10 months ago 3
there is no airforce in the world including america whose women are flying combat fighter. and they can't be. Its reality. its just showoff showing on media such type of things.wasting the money, energies and fuel money for such causes.
Balli1937 11 months ago
she is not a pilot...she is a terrorist...her weapon suicide bomb....
laluprasad111 1 year ago
My opinion!! Iran and Nord Korea are placed for injustice with these sanctions Big protest I recommend changing in FN four more Nations as a permanent members of security council IRAN BRAZIL LYBIA SYRIEN,,,,,I´m not surprised that East Timor showed op at the last second and was chosen instead of Iran in a department within FN. An old APPROACH,,,,, mar kjartansson 24t blog Mingler.dk
markjartansson 1 year ago
gud job pakistan zindabad
yasir248able 1 year ago
I wish I was a hot white girl
the air force would not refuse me. hehe
paydafee 1 year ago
a person who calls someone else a non-muslim is one himself dear.
michellealvarez16 1 year ago
go go women of Pakistan.
smartiepants2007 1 year ago
after seeing this now im thinking why i did not tryed hard to achive this
wasimsarfraz 1 year ago
nothing wrong to be a pilot but not to serve our country; there is a hadith that muslim has two things fear (khof) or Iman obviously I do not see any Iman in her.except other pilot sisters. I see fear on her face and she will never serve my country. I am really embarrass to see her in Pakistan force. we will pray for her iman because she is our sister in Islam May Allah guide us all. Amin
kashmir16246 1 year ago
This is cool!!!
lady2342002 1 year ago
cool!
hmxakazmi22 1 year ago
Still flying migs!! wow! russian airplanes r tough.
pope007 1 year ago
wow i want to be a jet fighter pilot too!
Agirlnot2messwith 2 years ago
Thanks for the comment. We hope that too :) Peace will prevail
tehreekeinsaaf 2 years ago
i want my sister to become a fighter pilot. and inshallhah she will be soon.
Asfandoo 2 years ago 8
Great women. I am simply proud on them. When Ambreen say that my mother tell me how will you do it, I have tears in my eyes. She was so delighted at the moment that give me a hope for this nation. We have lots of lots of potentials in our women but they are least exploited. I proud on these young girls more than anyone else.
khalidgeologist 2 years ago
i dont wanna hear it from CNN!! why z it black&white. gud look ladies.
HumayunSaraf 2 years ago
ppl were more pious in the past .... every older one says that, lol ....
then u just don't know the incidents mentioned in Quran and Ahadith!
Anza20000 2 years ago
mash allah i am very proud of them.
solomonpilot767 2 years ago 2
you are wrong . women in usa were sent to war. but most of them were raped by their fellow soldiers.
DesendantOfAdam 2 years ago 34
@DesendantOfAdam
Dear, do not put India or America as your holy grail of every thing. We are Muslims, and we know our limits. Those who call them selves Muslims and commit heinous crimes , are Muslim by name, not by deeds.
DukeJib 2 years ago
Really ?, are u a muslim ? How many times to u pray in a day? be honest. A person who does not pray is a non muslim. kaafir. And how many women cover their hair in pakistan and india. A woman who does not cover her body parts and hair will never enter jannat. i know what kind of muslims u r. The fact is that u think u r a muslim but u r not. c how confident i m. i dont even know u but I KNOW THAT YOU DONT PRAY. so stop calling urself a muslim. because the only difference is salaat. pray.
DesendantOfAdam 2 years ago
you wrote "A person who does not pray is a non muslim."
Actually, a person who says that a "A person who does not pray is a non muslim." is a shallow individual upon whom the message of the religion he professes to speak for is lost. What you follow is the message of the priesthood, not that of Islam.
peacefulmuslim1 1 year ago 2
@peacefulmuslim1
well said
tehreekeinsaaf 1 year ago
@DesendantOfAdam
Wow, you don't know me, nor you know about my Prayer habits etc, but you have given a self made fatwa by saying that "I KNOW THAT YOU DONT PRAY" , thats good, I pray or not, its between me and Allah, but what you are doing is what is called a "FITNA" do read about it in Surah Bakkara & Alle-Imran and get back to me. By the way, First find the meaning of "Hijab" from arabic to whatever language you know, then criticize. Sorry for 8months late reply, just saw ur post.
DukeJib 1 year ago
we dont need your certificate to declare anyone KAFIR.. got it ?
tehreekeinsaaf 2 years ago 12
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osshehry 2 years ago
This West want to preach us about women's rights, but it's Islamic countries like Bangladesh that have women presidents, America never had a woman presidents.
Islam gave women there rights 1400yrs ago, not in 1990s like the West.
Gutsyndicate 2 years ago 3
women not even had a right to vote ...and now they act like the champion of human rights
tehreekeinsaaf 2 years ago
I surprise they were flying those planes wiase bhi porkistaniyo main BURKHA log bahut pehante hai
adithelife 2 years ago
hahahhahahaha you Hindunazi Jealous :p
grow up man..
tehreekeinsaaf 2 years ago
covering urself is even in ur religion u hindu, but the difference is that we follow our religion and u dont even follow urs
jab tumhari country ki women mein jazba ajaye na larney ka phir baat karna
PAKISTAN ZINDABAD
beanutst 2 years ago
Muslim women has been with men in wars in the very early history of Islam. Love our Soldier Girls. Pakistan's Great.
sachgap 2 years ago 4
@sachgap plz dont give false references. muslim in war ? when ? the concept of mehram and namehram is very strict and clear. if there had been any cases of women in war , let me give u the detail. they used to dress up completely in parda. And they were the people of THE KHAIR . gud age.i mean in those times ppl were pious . now the humanity is on the brink of turning into satans. people are ruled by their own nafs.They wud do sex even with their own mothers , daughters. previously no 1 cud
DesendantOfAdam 2 years ago
@DesendantOfAdam
dear sahabia's use to work in ghazwah's along with muslims, even took part in physical war, when kufars invaded makkah/madina. Our muslim women should be trained in arts of war, so that they can defend them selves, their honor and family, instead of taking their own lives in fear of molestation. by the way, Pardah was a very late incarnation in Islam, plus ppl who sleep with their mothers/daughters/sisters were present at that time as well.
DukeJib 2 years ago
Proud to be a Pakistani..and Proud on Pakistani Girls...they are not less than any body in IQ or skills...Pakistan Zinda Baad.
imranji28 2 years ago 30
no doubt about it
zindabad Pakistan
tehreekeinsaaf 2 years ago
support hamesha pakistan...pakistan zinda baad...
apnajeddah 2 years ago 4
this is all rubbish. Islam never ask women to go out and fight. but they should look out the children and the house. Even the jihad for women is their hujj
MrGoodman45 2 years ago
are you blind ? didn't you see Pakistani women flying fighter jets ?lol you are tooo tooo much ignorant
tehreekeinsaaf 2 years ago
If you are Muslim so Islam say lot of thing to follow it
Don't talk rubbish
sheikhbpl 2 years ago
Get some education...Islam teaches equality to women and men. Proud of these girls.
brotherpsych 2 years ago 3
@brotherpsych equality , not mixing . Rights to own , rights to be free in thoughts , inheritance . Not free to go anywhere and wear anything and sleep with anyone. We need to educate ourselves in Islam more. What is the definition of freedom and rights in Islam. dont get me wrong. im not one of them old schools. i live in uk. But cleared so many misconseptions in my mind after studying about Islam.There are boundaries set for us by Allah . we know to know them.
DesendantOfAdam 2 years ago 2
Well guys this report of CNN shows that Pakistan is not about just terrorrism and bombing inoccent but that we are Educated Rational and Sophisticated Nation and women are playing major roles to make PAKISTAN AND PAKISTANIS proud
crabcutter 2 years ago 5
that's why I shared it here ;)
tehreekeinsaaf 2 years ago
history and science both prove that a woman heart is much stronger in decision making and witholding pain both physical and emotional than a man.
AamirSonia 2 years ago 4
Women have the ability to do every thing possible tht a man can do or ever think of.Science and facts have proven this so those ppl with little minds who are bent upon pushink religious facts must kindly grow up.Its abt time. And let me also tell u that it is not becuz women have weaker hearts that they are not made to fight in the forefront for fear of being sympathetic towards the enemy,
AamirSonia 2 years ago 6
Nothing personal, but when it comes to a wartime scenario, it's the MEN who call the shots. So ladies excuse us, we gotta take care of our borders :)
F16FalconBlock52 2 years ago
I am a male but I think we should avoid discrimination.. "MEN who call the shots" because you have never given women a chance to call the shot.. why not try Hina or Gul ??
tehreekeinsaaf 2 years ago
Dude, you got it all wrong. It's not about descrimination. It's a man's responsibilty to save her woman. If you look into the Islamic history, female did participate in wars, but they were there to support their men. It has always been a man who has fought in the battlefield. Even in the PAF, whenever the tension escalates between Insia and Pakistan, you wll always find male fighter pilots patroling the borders. However, female deserve equal rights and respect in whichever fields they are.
F16FalconBlock52 2 years ago
that's a fact but my dear they have never given a chance to show their capabilities that's why you never saw them in the battlefield :) how can you judge someone if he/she is not tried yet ? btw Pakistan is the only country which has female Generals in army :)
tehreekeinsaaf 2 years ago
I am giving you a simple example so that everyone can understand. A boy learns driving a car faster than a girl. I myself learned driving a car without any help. All I know is I drag the car out of the car porch secretly and the next moment I was driving it on the streets by the grace of Allah . Same as with flying, a man would learn faster than a girl. What a man does in one go, a woman would do it in 10 attempts.
F16FalconBlock52 2 years ago
man.. that is about the culture of your society.. it's not about the gender.. so please..
tehreekeinsaaf 2 years ago
Well on a given day, who knows a female fighter pilot might make history. But on the whole, they lack both aptitude and attitude. Providing a job opportunity is one thing and safe guarding the borders is another. I can provide you both scientific and religious reasons why women can never be a good fighter pilot, but for that I have to send you an email, since I can't write a whole story here in comment box :)
F16FalconBlock52 2 years ago
Thanks.. but that religious points must be an interpretation of some "dharti ke khuda" or Dukandaar mullah.. anyway.. you have your own opinion I have mine :).. and I do respect yours..
tehreekeinsaaf 2 years ago
Dear brother, firstly I abhor Mullahism. Most of the Mullahs are disgrace to Islam. My religious points are based on what the Noble Quran says.
Men are the protectors and maintainers of women, because Allah has made one of them to excel the other, and because they spend (to support them) from their means. [Al-Nisa 4:34]
F16FalconBlock52 2 years ago
Lastly, the Israeli Air Force which claims to be the no.1, even they dont send their female pilots to bomb poor Palestinians. Because a woman is gentle at heart and is full of emotions and that might effect her decision making. Fighter pilot is not all about flying skills. Your attitude, composure, & nerves of steel are tested while you undergo training at Risalpur Academy or any other academy.
F16FalconBlock52 2 years ago
I don't think Israel is the good example to put here, who can forget 'Golda Meir' :)
and I don't think should follow whatever they does..
tehreekeinsaaf 2 years ago
The reason why I gave the example of the Israeli Air Force was, they hardly face any genuine threat, but still they dont rely on female fighter pilots. As for the PAF, it's been a year since they are combating the insurgents, they too, have not given a chance to the female pilots. Moreover, when we calculate the number of aircrafts that India has, the ratio is like 4:1, which adds insult to injury. In these circumstances, there's no room for experimentation.
F16FalconBlock52 2 years ago
Ratio 4:1 ? dear brother India has threats from all its borders..
east(bangladesh, bhutan)
North(China)
West(Pakistan)
whereas we.. we only have threats from our Eastern borders, so that is obvious India's demand is much higher than us ..
tehreekeinsaaf 2 years ago
Dude actually it's the other way round. For your kind information, India has deployed more Air and ground forces on the western borders as compared to the eastern borders. India is least bothered about Bangladesh and China since China is busy becoming the Super Power and can't afford to attack India unless provoked. As for the PAF, from 1986 to 1988 three Su-22 and two Mig-23 were burnt to ashes during Afghan War. Pakistan is in great danger now and the Armed forces are well aware of this fact.
F16FalconBlock52 2 years ago
improvement is must but we should look at the facts as well.. more than 80% Chinese people thinks that INDIA is the biggest threat to them.. China is a more bigger threat to India than Pakistan.. look at what's going on in the eastern states of India and what's going on the water issue btw India & China.. :)
tehreekeinsaaf 2 years ago
And inside Asaam Bangal Khalistan Kashmir
and lot of
Its near broke India
sheikhbpl 2 years ago 2
@F16FalconBlock52
" It's a man's responsibilty to save her woman."
But it shouldn't. That's just how you all were raised.
Hannoi 1 year ago
training made me unwillll n i left pak airforce,,,, now i m regret ov ma decision :-(
1meet2malhi3singh 2 years ago
May you live long ambrine
Long live Pakistan
smartsajjad21 2 years ago 2
LONG LIVE PAKISTAN
Shahjamil58 2 years ago 2
awesome!!!
sbhutto 2 years ago 2
Pakistan Zindabad
Kisspak17 2 years ago 2
Alhamdulillah! This is awesome. MUSLIM WOMEN IN THE MILITARY WOO HOO =)
TakiyahYeira 2 years ago 2
Pakistan is the only country in the Islamic world to have female Major Generals in the Army :)
tehreekeinsaaf 2 years ago
Alright Go Pakistan!!!! *sniff sniff* I'm so proud of you :*)
TakiyahYeira 2 years ago 3
mashallah!
littlemisshijabi 2 years ago 2
Well done. Male Female equal.
syedalo 2 years ago 10
true face of pakistan
kabayegainsaf 2 years ago 5
Yes this is the new face of our new Pakistan..
tehreekeinsaaf 2 years ago
Go sisters! Get those crazy neo-cons fascists now!
bdvzim 2 years ago 4
Vr proud of u gurlz!!!! Pakistan Zindabad!!
biakhan1 2 years ago 4
Tribute to brave pakistani women.
PAKISTAN ZINDABAD
THEKRIA 2 years ago 4