The only aircraft that I know of where having the wing collapse and basically disappear is taken for granted, with six or seven people commenting on how THEY would have avoided or corrected the situation, all with different ideas. All of them sitting at their computer with plenty of time to think about it. Going by such confusion on which recovery action is needed, I think most of them would have crashed just the same. Dump you Para(plegic) gliders and get a hang glider.
@winterka100 there is nothing wrong with paragliding, I do both sports but in the right flying conditions.. Iv'e been tossed up side down in a hangglider so don't think you are more safe flying them. Both sports are fine in the right conditions, fly in strong thermals expect the odd problem now and again !
Possible rotor? If you look at the grass just after the crash you can work out wind direction and the 'bad air' seems to collapse the wing as the pilot passes the downwind side of the tree. What do you reckon?
OUCH. I'd say, this is one of the VERY few videos where no pilot error can be seen. With most other crashes you'd go "come on, why did the shmuckphuck not brake...", but catching a dust devil at this point is just bad luck, I'd say.
Thankfully, I believe the statistics show that the amount of just-bad-luck incidents is not very high. This is the remaining risk we have to deal with.
Learn from this video? How? There is no actual explanation fo what the likely cause is from. Please explain as this video is not for learning but for scaring potential new pilots.
Taking into consideration that Anthony Green is an acro pilot, I guess this was an acro glider, Sol Supersonic 18 sqm or something like that. So the fast reaction of the very loaded glider is not a mirracle, but this can happen only with high wing loadings. His reaction was very good, but too low to save the situation. So you don't have to be scared with usual serial wings, the collapses won't be that fast.
@pogozoli .. the thing is Accro wings like that have a high load per square inch and thus are much less prone to collapse... I think that would have been worse with a normal wing (but you're righ much less violent)
seems like he had wind from his right and slowdown to much.
what you can learn - fly in stabil wind which blow into your face, slow down smooth while going down instead of stoping in the air, btw. there is a tree which could cause torbulence
This guy is pretty experienced. I wonder if it is possible to practice to the point of being skilled enough to go from a huge collapse down low directly to a stall that sets you down fairly gently. Too much brake and a full stall (or badly timed recovery) gets you down fast and hard. Too little brake and a hot wing like this one will whip around and be pointed straight down when it recovers. I think a 'hands up' approach works well at 200'+ AGL but at 40' it is better to stall it to the ground
I'm sorry to desagree, but It seems very clear in slow motion that the canopy would have corrected itself after the first colapse in a 90 turn, but because he braked trying to control the fast turn he ended up stalling it... In my opinion if he had let the brakes go he'd be much better off
What a great sport. I'm sure participants blab all sorts of safety numbers too. Sad thing is this guy probably jumped right back in the air not even caring how close he just came to dying.
@gblan yeah you better stay in youre home and wait for a cancer stupid idea of living no to see beautiful things just to stay in safe go there demotywatory(dot)pl/1799587/Spelnienie to figer it out :)
Stick some aluminum in that thing! Hang gliders are looking pretty good right now. Scary as hell -- can't believe how sudden that was! 10 meters higher wouldn't have been survivable. Sure glad he made it.
His glider seems quite sensitive to pitch. He nearly stalled the open side on the first closure & stalled the open side on the second closure. This pilot is not bad he did not hughley over correct nor under correct. He could have maybe been more active with a good weight shift correction. It is easy to say until you find yourself that low with things happening that fast. An easier glider would have made recovery easier. Be careful in turbulent conditions this can happen on easy gliders to.
Ouch...it seems he just gave up recovering the wing and prepared for the crash...which is not a bad idea considering that a bar surge or landing could have been much worse.
More brake after the first deflation (to check the surge) could have helped the landing to be more in deep stall, but it was just too fast and too low. -An
I'm sorry to desagree, but It seems very clear in slow motion that the canopy would have corrected itself after the first colapse in a 90 turn, but because he braked trying to control the fast turn he ended up stalling it... In my opinion if he had let the brakes go he'd be much better off
If you were in that guys shoes I bet you would have crashed too! It's easy to see what's happening on video after that fact, but not if you were in his place. Considering he only had seconds to figure out what is going on I'd say almost any pilot would have crashed into the ground from a collapse at that height. The fact that he was ok and walked away says to me that he did everything right, including his crash landing. How much better off can you get than no injuries?
I always try to learn from the incidents of others, but trying to figure out from the "not make the same mistake" comment. Seemed like just a TERRIBLE place to get a big collapse, not sure what I can learn from this other than...Don't fly in turbulent air. Did he make some mistake with his inputs that are difficult to see in the video? Would love to know and avoid this type of scenario.
A little break at bout 10% use to help a bit to prevent collapsing in turbulence.
brutolf 2 months ago
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frame from 0:02 to 0:03 you can see the front get advanced immidiatly before the frontal. bad time!
cheorachexe 2 months ago
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Click the PDMC there.
joefaust777 3 months ago
The only aircraft that I know of where having the wing collapse and basically disappear is taken for granted, with six or seven people commenting on how THEY would have avoided or corrected the situation, all with different ideas. All of them sitting at their computer with plenty of time to think about it. Going by such confusion on which recovery action is needed, I think most of them would have crashed just the same. Dump you Para(plegic) gliders and get a hang glider.
winterka100 4 months ago
@winterka100 there is nothing wrong with paragliding, I do both sports but in the right flying conditions.. Iv'e been tossed up side down in a hangglider so don't think you are more safe flying them. Both sports are fine in the right conditions, fly in strong thermals expect the odd problem now and again !
baldeagle1195 1 month ago
I think keeping some controll all the time would help, you can see the front get advanced immidiatly before the frontal.
albedran2 6 months ago
@albedran2 This colapse was way to fast for anyone to control ! even you..
If you fly in strong thermic conditions expect trouble !
baldeagle1195 1 month ago
well that sucks!
crashtestdummy87 7 months ago
Possible rotor? If you look at the grass just after the crash you can work out wind direction and the 'bad air' seems to collapse the wing as the pilot passes the downwind side of the tree. What do you reckon?
MrUAV100 7 months ago
yes, the landing was a bit earlier than scheduled
commandro 7 months ago
wing manufactures model and year in the description pls
3str4ng3d 7 months ago
What is the glider? Is a SOL?
horacyus 7 months ago
@horacyus Yep! I think it's a SOL Torck2...
worrryrrrock 6 months ago
Those things scare the hell out of me -- sticking to my hang glider.
Ayerstairs 8 months ago
he did right - applied left brake almost instantly - preventing hitting head and torso first.
cabowah 9 months ago
OUCH. I'd say, this is one of the VERY few videos where no pilot error can be seen. With most other crashes you'd go "come on, why did the shmuckphuck not brake...", but catching a dust devil at this point is just bad luck, I'd say.
Thankfully, I believe the statistics show that the amount of just-bad-luck incidents is not very high. This is the remaining risk we have to deal with.
NilsKokemohr 9 months ago 4
Rough air!
smad333 11 months ago
The only way to avoid such an unpredictable paragliding accident is to give it to somebody you hate and get into hang gliding.
winterka100 1 year ago
Learn from this video? How? There is no actual explanation fo what the likely cause is from. Please explain as this video is not for learning but for scaring potential new pilots.
MrUAV100 1 year ago 3
@MrUAV100 That it did!
HardOnDirtbikes 7 months ago
Taking into consideration that Anthony Green is an acro pilot, I guess this was an acro glider, Sol Supersonic 18 sqm or something like that. So the fast reaction of the very loaded glider is not a mirracle, but this can happen only with high wing loadings. His reaction was very good, but too low to save the situation. So you don't have to be scared with usual serial wings, the collapses won't be that fast.
pogozoli 1 year ago
@pogozoli .. the thing is Accro wings like that have a high load per square inch and thus are much less prone to collapse... I think that would have been worse with a normal wing (but you're righ much less violent)
F3FisGoodforYou 11 months ago
Probably a female pilot...
LoveHydro1 1 year ago
@LoveHydro1 It reads the name of the pilot 'Anthony' at the start of the video...
MrUAV100 7 months ago
seems like he had wind from his right and slowdown to much.
what you can learn - fly in stabil wind which blow into your face, slow down smooth while going down instead of stoping in the air, btw. there is a tree which could cause torbulence
very lucky landing though
ps.people be always carefull
cjsimon 1 year ago
This guy is pretty experienced. I wonder if it is possible to practice to the point of being skilled enough to go from a huge collapse down low directly to a stall that sets you down fairly gently. Too much brake and a full stall (or badly timed recovery) gets you down fast and hard. Too little brake and a hot wing like this one will whip around and be pointed straight down when it recovers. I think a 'hands up' approach works well at 200'+ AGL but at 40' it is better to stall it to the ground
climb1028 1 year ago
dude never ever do that with youre hand hand always neer the body before hiting the groud
bandziorze 1 year ago
amateur
curticovicosa 1 year ago
@curticovicosa & LoveHydro1 what the fuck are u two talking about
commandro 1 year ago
Nothing can do in this situation,unlucky.
onamvannu 1 year ago
so um..what really happened? what was his mistake?
tamlatlat 1 year ago
is that a Sol tracer?
ciroanimau 1 year ago
I'm sorry to desagree, but It seems very clear in slow motion that the canopy would have corrected itself after the first colapse in a 90 turn, but because he braked trying to control the fast turn he ended up stalling it... In my opinion if he had let the brakes go he'd be much better off
danielcaram 1 year ago
ouch
Sunnychick81 1 year ago
What a great sport. I'm sure participants blab all sorts of safety numbers too. Sad thing is this guy probably jumped right back in the air not even caring how close he just came to dying.
gblan 1 year ago
@gblan yeah you better stay in youre home and wait for a cancer stupid idea of living no to see beautiful things just to stay in safe go there demotywatory(dot)pl/1799587/Spelnienie to figer it out :)
bandziorze 1 year ago
he hit a dust devil!
Hellafireleli 2 years ago
Sol Ellus vaya tela
slkyo 2 years ago
"All pilots should watch this film and not make the same mistake..."
Wich mistake????
cruelangeltesis 2 years ago
Might not have happenend at all if he was flying a reflex wing?
flyb3 2 years ago
what modell is that glider?
slkyo 2 years ago
Puta madre!!!que piletaço!!!
HucoAcro 2 years ago
Thank you for posting this video ! We can learn many things from this kinds of videos ! Glad to know the pilot was OK !
airsoldier2001 2 years ago
Stick some aluminum in that thing! Hang gliders are looking pretty good right now. Scary as hell -- can't believe how sudden that was! 10 meters higher wouldn't have been survivable. Sure glad he made it.
Ayerstairs 2 years ago
His glider seems quite sensitive to pitch. He nearly stalled the open side on the first closure & stalled the open side on the second closure. This pilot is not bad he did not hughley over correct nor under correct. He could have maybe been more active with a good weight shift correction. It is easy to say until you find yourself that low with things happening that fast. An easier glider would have made recovery easier. Be careful in turbulent conditions this can happen on easy gliders to.
ChristopheSmith 2 years ago
Ouch...it seems he just gave up recovering the wing and prepared for the crash...which is not a bad idea considering that a bar surge or landing could have been much worse.
foroparapente 2 years ago
More brake after the first deflation (to check the surge) could have helped the landing to be more in deep stall, but it was just too fast and too low. -An
acrotwinz 2 years ago
Or maybe a little less brake so you wouldn´t stall the flying side. Seems to me that you had a great deal of break.
jgorrini 2 years ago
I'm sorry to desagree, but It seems very clear in slow motion that the canopy would have corrected itself after the first colapse in a 90 turn, but because he braked trying to control the fast turn he ended up stalling it... In my opinion if he had let the brakes go he'd be much better off
danielcaram 1 year ago
@danielcaram i dont see no brakeing it was dust devil.
bandziorze 1 year ago
@danielcaram
If you were in that guys shoes I bet you would have crashed too! It's easy to see what's happening on video after that fact, but not if you were in his place. Considering he only had seconds to figure out what is going on I'd say almost any pilot would have crashed into the ground from a collapse at that height. The fact that he was ok and walked away says to me that he did everything right, including his crash landing. How much better off can you get than no injuries?
ryanscottppg 1 year ago
do you know what's happened exactly???
geocore06 2 years ago
OUCH!!!
Glad he didn't get hurt.
flyhghgy 2 years ago
I always try to learn from the incidents of others, but trying to figure out from the "not make the same mistake" comment. Seemed like just a TERRIBLE place to get a big collapse, not sure what I can learn from this other than...Don't fly in turbulent air. Did he make some mistake with his inputs that are difficult to see in the video? Would love to know and avoid this type of scenario.
gwenzel2008 2 years ago 12
True.
I don't know what he could have done, that low and with that violent collapse.
PersonCommon 2 years ago 5
@PersonCommon The pilot had time to PLF and didn't ? pleased he was ok though.
baldeagle1195 1 month ago
@gwenzel2008 this is a high-end glider anyway, don't buy gliders that don't fit your skill level
drumatic86 1 year ago