Classic Formula one car/F1 (without music)

[olafroeten]

The old Zandvoort circuit in the sixties and seventies. These guys had balls! Thank you for this document!

[njitram00000]

Gotta love Zandvoort!

[MrClassicf1]

to watch old f1 races go to classicgrandprixclub

[FccFreak]

1:03 orgasm sound :)

[mrstant1]

the good old days

[Maduggo]

This is the best music available for any petrol head, me included. Turn it up and get in the swivel chair and away you go, quality.

Keep your crap music for the rubbish videos where people think they have imagination.

[KaKaEFTV]

0:56 KERS ^^

[Storix100]

@KaKaEFTV and DRS :D

[rock3tcat]

No TCS

No ESP

No ABS

Manual Shifting

No power steering

And insane amounts of power

This is what I call driving.

[spooky78]

just look at the brake distance before the corner..please compare the today's f1 cars..turbo cars were fast at the streets but corner speeds and breaking tecnologies incredible at the todays f1 cars..there is no way to compare these two eras..aerodynamic is everything..engine power comes second..

[capzaraki]

now THAT is racing there those guys were crazy

[kcmusicrockstar]

without music haha put some music but not like rick roll or somting

[maverick223]

BRING THE V12s BACK!

[AlpheNoord]

yeah without music is the best. The engine is music ;-)

[thomodin]

I wonder what those cars could do with the tire technology we have now.

[wally19]

can i play this game with my new pc?? specs: pro: 486dx2 | memo: 16mb | HD 120mb | video: onboard Sys | and my new SOUND CARD!! and CD-ROM!!!

CAN I???

[Kaszas2000]

@wally19 Well, you could experience some stuttering on sunny and dark areas :D

[wally19]

@Kaszas2000 lol

[myLocalTV]

Great to see this lap on the old circuit of Zandvoort !

[TGASN]

Turbo F1 cars way back.. Very brutal..

[lynchi33]

sounds like a beauty

[barath4545]

Regarding when F1 was the most gutsy: I think 1969 was the eclipse. It was the last year of the unfiltered courses, before they cut the bumps off the beloved and feared Green Hell and before they "nuded" Spa into a safety haven. Yes, ppl died, but that was the risks. It was more do-or-die, no-padding, raw-guts then. No room for err and they knew it, losing 1 buddy pr year average. Maybe Stewart was right to campaign for safety, but F1 lost its history.

[castorabc9]

All men who drive F1 have balls, you cant say modern men suck because i want to see all of u get in f1 cars u cunts!!!!!!!! Maybey it was harder but dat doesnt mean anything!! New ones dont have ABS an you have 700hp pushing you so i wouldnt be talking, why do you thing there is only 24 men in F1, because they are the best of the best, sodont talk shit!!!

[KillerDreck89]

@castorabc9, who talks shit? The new formula cars are just computers, not only with driving aids, but many more things are computer-aided.

[castorabc9]

@KillerDreck89 by the way loser, u should read up before runnign your mouth!!! New F1 cars dont have traction corntrol, dont have stability control(computer), and dont have anti lock brakes!!!! watch top gear when richard hammond drives the renault F1!!!! u try to drive one you loser!!!!!! go race ur honda civic and quit talking shit!!!!!!! stick to nascar!!!!

[KillerDreck89]

@castorabc9, don't call me a loser again. are you an engineer or what?

1) New cars: No TC, that's right for now.

2) Not only stability computer, but many other cumputer systems.

3) But when U said new cars don't have ABS, you lie.

4) No problem, sure I would rather drive old F1 cars than those robots.

But after all, ask other users, they would only partially agree to you?

[castorabc9]

@KillerDreck89 loser!!!!, have you seen when the cars lock of the tires going into some turns???? THEY DONT HAVE ANTI LOCK BRAKES!!! i dont care what other users think.

[KillerDreck89]

@castorabc9, you say there are no anti locks because you also haven't seen any? well, you better look into the cars more carefully.

[castorabc9]

@KillerDreck89 go to the aF1 website and look up brakes, it clearly sais ABS are banned

[KillerDreck89]

@castorabc9, that's relative. articles can mess everything up, just to inform, so don't trust everything.

[TheOriginalGayman]

@KillerDreck89 new cars have alot of thing to help the driver, yes, but that doesn't make new cars easy to drive.

[KillerDreck89]

@TheOriginalGayman , no one said that, my friend.

Look at the drivers today, they are well trained.

[TheOriginalGayman]

@KillerDreck89 yes they are well trained.

but think about how uncontrollable the v10 F1 cars from the early 2000 would have been without any driveraids! I mean they produced around the same power as the engines in the turbo-era. and the way the engines gave out the power is alot diffirent from the cars from the early 80's. and the acceleration and speed were ALOT more. so I think it would have been almost impossible to drive those cars without the driveraids(except TC, I hated that).

[KillerDreck89]

@TheOriginalGayman , I think I would have made this. :D

I don't think they were such uncontrollable cars. ;D

[melchizedekful]

@castorabc9 totally agree. the most up to date car ever built in f1 is the williams renault from 1993

[castorabc9]

@melchizedekful agree on what??

[unionrdr]

Aaaah yes,the flyin scot back when it was 90% driver & 10% car. Not whoever has the biggest wallet wins. Ans such major ear candy too. With an exhaust tone like that,who needs a stereo?

[barath4545]

@unionrdr Ster...WHAT?..I CANT HEAR WHAT YOURE SAYING, THE ENGINE IS SOO LOUD!...:))

[madmarco245]

Grand Prix... James Garner...

That's what modern F1 is missing!

[druide106]

one word:

EARGASM!!

[supersevenn]

when real men drove formula one

[uhclem50]

Whatever that means.

[martynhenrystyles]

supersevenn.

as opposed to todays formula 1 drivers who are what, fake men?

[castorabc9]

@martynhenrystyles you try to drive one motherfucker!!!!! grow some balls and stick to nascar

[martynhenrystyles]

@castorabc9 i was replying to a comment by superseven that said these guys were real men...what eva i was being sarcastic anyway so you can go die....im not a fat burger eating american ok and i do believe these guys are the fittest in the world, back then, and now. ok i love f1. anything that goes round an oval doesnt deserve tv coverage! ok

[castorabc9]

@martynhenrystyles i seee, teehee :)

[LPcustom76]

the guys from the 60's had HUGE STEEL BALLS!!

[davipiala]

Titanium....

[videoofmike]

@LPcustom76 the dude in the beggining is jackie stewarts, look at his helmet.

[Absstratcat]

@LPcustom76 They used those to keep the cars on the ground!

[LPcustom76]

@Absstratcat LOL

[juftring]

What do you mean no music? The engine sounds are music!

[T1carus]

from 1966 film grand prix

[acdcjacko]

And it's Jackie Stewart who goes through into the lead

The best driver evr

[LeviFig]

The first clip looks taken from a movie or something... (TCM?)

Anyway, it's crazy to see how fast they were driving back then with little to no security, and no track protection or anything... Just a "plain" road: you crash = you die! :o

[f1matt]

The movie is "Grand Prix."

[quasiphatpaul]

yeah the movie is Grand Prix and TCM is Turner Classic Movies a channel here in america.

[Brancovitc]

2nd clip Zanvoort!!!!!

[Sponge1310]

1st clip also Zandvoort ;)

[connell256]

I can take a guess that the 2nd clip was in the turbo era in qualifying with the turbo turned right up so they can have 1000hp? hes passing like nothing on earth

[LeviFig]

Looks like it's actually from a race, and he could be passing the rear cars (which have to give priority to the front ones, lapping them).

[MuscleCarHeart]

Yes.

[JONACAN]

superb! mesmerising. Thanks

[gfgfgggf]

great sound ...stick shift ...amazing

thanks

[tugatomsk]

Incidentally, the Lotus F1 clip was also in Zandvoort. :)

[checkfoldcallraise]

awesome! thank you for not adding music.

[cheytan]

un régal !!!!

[ZetanCrisp]

Superb, thanks for posting it. Onboard clips without Murray Walker ranting on drowning the engine sound out, etc. are sooooo rare.

[toycoutter1977]

excelente!!!

[oaidh]

This movie is awesome....=D

[f1matt]

Is that first clip from the film "Grand Prix"?

[mpower6531]

yes it is , it's the Spa-Francorchmaps race ( Belgium)

[BumpPumper]

actually it's at the zandvoort circuit, but yeah it's from grand prix.

[LouisMenchise]

Who knows where they got the sound from - they used Formula 3000 cars for that movie. One of the actors used the scheme from Jackie Stewart's helmet (shown.)

[KillerDreck89]

I wish I could drive those machines from the first clip.

[zoulation]

Amazing!!

[stopper12racesims]

Jackie Stewart right??

[jeffdaharper]

Not much altered in time??? 12 SECONDS is not much altered?? Geez, I would like to see what your version of much altered would look like! 12 seconds is a life time in F1.

[sweetwangsta94]

Sorry No VID but i got a lap of 1.23.997 :) ill try to record it with my phone :)

[Akkain]

Zandvort was such an exciting track too

[jraybay]

jeez imagine having a robert kubica montreal crash in one of those :\ .

[SilverSkyline92]

i think f1 should be letting these teams explore, and make formula cars the highest performance possible without rediculous limitations, like less downforce wings and spoiler, and tires with grooves in them and not fully slick, and limiting power, we're racing and competing, not trying to see how much slower we can make these cars

[rdtli]

agree dude , we can´t just stop the evolution , in the name of safety , racing is about been the fastest in a shorter time , so these limitations and rules after senna´s death really sucks! hug from brasil

[ClasseTV]

manual transmission / heel and toe, those were the days.

[Rivelution]

The first part of this clip looks like its from the movie "Grand Prix." I could be wrong though.

[sir62092]

2004 was the fastest year for F1 cars. I think F1 should end this pathetic V8 nonsense and bring back a 3.0 L V12! It's time to make F1 interesting again.

[carl206rc]

I DON'T THINK SO because f1 cars are faster now with less power than 2004 f1 cars because their aerodinamic is better. In my opinion this last two years have been very interesting with v8 and without traction control.

f1 for life!!!!!!

[dusanholy]

I dont think SO... Bcs where is not simple power there is not overtaking.. Aerodynamics only helps to control these power.. These is not fight for best aerodynamic result.. (even when it's VERY important)..

This must be fight of the pilots and they would have enough power to their racing..

YES.. It will be dangerous but will be interesting...

Golden age of Senna vs Menzel and also Schumacher vs Häkkinen.... I'm really missing it... :((

[mikeb1444]

How about 1.5 liter v16's with no mamimum rev limit.

[turbolover175]

great movie, despite all the off-track bollocks. Apparently James Garner was an absolute phenom behind the wheel, Whatzisname, the actor who played J-P Sartie, was okay, and the english guy couln't even put it in gear, hence, the balaclava hiding a stunt driver.

[Agerasia]

Times based on Monte Carlo as it's not been altered much. 1986, most powerful F1 cars ever made. 1'26.607 Prost 1992, most technically advanced f1 cars made. 1'21.598 Mansell 2004, Fastest ever lap times. 1'14.439 Schumacher Currently their is huge restrictions on engines in F1 as well as the engines being smaller than in 2004. Current F1, 1'15.284 Alonso. How is older F1 faster?

[budbadbig]

NO IT6 ISNT. IN FACT, MAYBE U DONT KNOW but some years ago f1 cars could go much more faster than now but noe they cant for safety reasons

[aaron0288]

lol, thats the biggest loada shite i've ever heard. top speed wise maybe, but on a single lap, they're miles ahead now.

[basslinegenerator]

cars in the 80'/90' where miles ahead of todays formula cars ..

[cossiecrusher]

what? maybe in terms of the technology used/allowed (abs, active suspension etc) but they wouldn't live with the cars of today around modern tracks IMO.

[basslinegenerator]

chassis wise, they made a step back to keep the speed down and make F1 more save, and in the eighties, they had turbo engines, wider tires, in fact there where cars, that had a fan build in that sucked them to the ground for ultimate cornering speed, i agree technoligie wise they of course rule today, but aerodynamics and engines where faster and more powerfull than today

[jeffdaharper]

Don't forget Active Suspension, I had a car with acticve suspension, a Soarer and it was unbelievable for handling!! But todays cars would run rings around the cars in this vid. Especially in braking.

[basslinegenerator]

in breaking, i totally agree, but not in top speed, in cornering speed and in acceleration

[cossiecrusher]

hmmm, the ground effects days, still not too sure about that, even the brabham alfa and the "official" reason for the fan was for "cooling the engie" haha! I'm such a F1 geek lol. The aerodynamics these days are extremely efficient (which is what's making the sport so boring to watch) I can't agree though, today's cars would hand any car 10+ years old its arse around a track. Plus you've got the seamles shift transmissions now, which shave seconds from a laptime, compared to a manual 'box

[robinlalalalala]

@aaron0288 did you see the canadian grand prix? they couldn't get close to the lap record, 2 seconds off! the aerodynamics aren't as good any more and they don't have the launch control and traction control that they used to. they were all banned to make the races slower (and therefore safer) with more possibility of overtaking and therefore more exciting. The cars were at their fastest in 2005/2006.

[videoofmike]

@aaron0288 they were going 350k back in the 1950s with mercedes, you can look up history of f1 on youtube.

[ravenswoodmedia]

@aaron0288 It depends what bubadbig means by "some years ago" - he's got a point if he means 5-7 years ago! Lap records set: Silverstone - 2004, Monza - 2004, Monaco - 2004, Suzuka - 2005, Canada - 2004 etc etc etc...

[TJ347]

@aaron0288 F1 today is boring to watch by comparison. I can watch footage of Stewart, Senna, Prost, Mansell and even Schumacher for days... The characters out there now, not so much. What's single lap speed when there's no personalities in the sport? That's what made it worth watching to begin with.

[PowerJoyEntrtainment]

@aaron0288

That´s not true. Nowadays cars are a lot slower than in 2004.

[efusiongaming]

@aaron0288 Yes you're right, but with the technology there is now, F1 cars could be a lot faster. The problem is that the F1 management wants to cut back on the costs and make F1 "eco-friendly" which is all a load of crap to be honest...

[scanline580]

@budbadbig can you give us some lap times to justify this comment.

[spooky78]

@budbadbig faster..what do you mean ..faster is a relative word..faster at the corners , faster at the end of the street , faster totally lap time...which one..? 2002-03-04-05 f1 cars fastest cars in the f1 history..turbo era cars maybe fast at the street but corner speeds incredible at the 2000's...

[teinF1]

Zandvoort!!!!!!

[Corktip14]

Doesn't look speed up to me, this is how is was on those days...

[battlingpig]

this must be speeded up.. looks way faster than what you see at the grandprix.. is it?

[Ziltoid667]

Apparently the first portion is from a movie, but the second shows Alain Prost in a Renault, I think in 1983. Type "F1 onboard Part1" in the search bar to see him do a lap of Kyalami in the same car.

[hihynynhhf]

You've got 2 be insane to drive wherever the 1st part was!!!!!

[AX3L666]

both tracks are zandvoort. 1st one is the 60,s zandvoort directly between the dunes. on the second vid the track has been modernised some more.

[Arianovich]

It's a game????

[aaron0288]

ha, god no!

[FLstudiomagic]

if only....still, some day maybe games will look like this...

[holeocross]

The second one is definitely Zandvoort. It must be - the track is identical to how it should be - Tarzan, Hugenholtz, Shievlak etc. all where they should be at the start. The bit after I presume is what it was in those days. The first one though... Looks older than the second... Certainly isn't old Kyalami, it was always much safer than that (at least, I thought). Nuburgring and Spa crossed my mind - they are the only two it really could be in my opinion. No idea who's driving though, in either.

[jshadd]

yes, this is old kyalami and it is Prost at the end I have the full video "in-car".

[AgainstSacoehueas]

Those where the days....

[listamin]

oh, my fault i haven't seen the whole video before commenting, sorry, but is this really prost?

[turboplus]

listen to that music! wonderful just simply wonderful! the older f1s sound much better when compared to todays f1s!

[elfyboy]

Actually, the clips from Grand Prix involve F2 cars. See Frankenheiner's comments which are included with the Grand Prix DVD.

[schumisatokubica]

No,F3 cars.

[frontdebeouf]

Looks kinda like Zandwoort?

[aaron0288]

yeah, i think they both are???

[zuigeber]

I guess the second one is Kyalami, isn't it?

[aaron0288]

nah, its definitly not kyalami. think it is zandwoort.

[bavarianbass]

@aaron0288 think so too

[bbozz]

a great scene from Grand Prix

[Bmants]

The Great Prost!

[listamin]

I think Alain Prost hadn't beed born at that time, am I right?

I have seen "Grand Prix" too, let's save words: wow!

[SnappedNeck]

Nope. Wasn't him. T'was all Jackie Steward and Stirling Moss and such.

[schumisatokubica]

No,first vid was from the movie Grand Prix,onboard with Brian Bedford(he played Scott Stodardt)

[NolanBowlin]

Nice call, that movie has some of the greatest classic F1 footage ever.

[SnappedNeck]

Yeah but the non-inboard shots in grand prix was the 77 or 78 monaco grandprix i think