I am all for womens rights but I find feminists annoying. I dont need someone to tell me I am equal to a man, I know I am. People should get jobs because they are good at the job not because of their gender. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, we wont all agree which is what makes the world an exciting and annoying place. :)
There are different kinds of feminism, the girl in the other video was talking about was militant feminists. You are not a militant feminist.. you have common sense. :)
intellectually ur a humanitarian. feminist haven't invented the equal rights for everyone idea. tha fact that ur trying to stick the feminist label onto the humanitarian ideas, shows that ur emotionally not ready to concede, that feminism is just one in many rights movements and nothing special. that makes u susceptible to radical feminist propaganda and skews ur view on what actuall equality means.
here is a word from a man, FUCK FEMINISM, there is a saying that goes like "if u fight nature u'r bound to lose", u'r fighting testosterone. u know what's next
Thank you so much for this video. You've expressed my feelings watching the original video far more articulately than I could've. Were this the real world I would offer a hug! Hell, several hugs, if you so desired! And maybe a cookie!
I am concerned with your comment about not knowing where this image of "militant Feminism" is coming from...Although my wife is a "contemporary feminist" or what she often says post-postmodern feminist like you, there are still certainly many groups (yes plural) in our University that frequently fight for militant feminist views.
Why don't you address which issues you, as a young woman, are affected by, that you're fighting to change. Seriously, you state women are still below men in our society. I believe you are deluded in this. Women are already 'more than equal' yet are still using the same excuse of fighting for equality. You admit to the *real* problems facing men at 4:20 yet only seem to really care about the representation of women in politics. Do men complain that men are under-represented in hair salons?
Feminism is a hate movement. It is not about equality it is about female superiority. Women already have more rights than men and are still looking for more.
Feminism brings up "mens issues" only when it is an issue that feminists want men to engage in, like emotional behavior, crying, cut that beard, put on some nice lotion, be all touchy feely, Hide any slight sign of testosterone in your body, be more feminine etc. This is not what men generally want! How is that considering men? NO feminism still manhating to the core and you will probably be a poor teacher.
Feminism is the absurd communist/marxist idea of SAMENESS rather than EQUAL OPPORTUNITY. It to the core conflicts with Liberty, Freedom of Choice and The Pursuit of Happiness for ALL in modern society. For rather than providing EVERYBODY with equal opportunity for us to do with it what we like. Feminism dictates that we shall all do exactly the same thing or else we are not equal. Clearly violating the freedoms of both men and women. Feminism thus is NOT EQUALITY but ENFORCED SAMENESS
What I found interesting is that you actually demonized masculinity in this video. I was raised in a very, very feminist household but I am fairly masculine (I don't like sports, but I love combat sports for example).
You should also look at where the gender pay gap comes from, it isn't actually as simple as it looks on the surface, and in many ways once you correct for hours worked women earn slightly more. Men also make up 95% of the workplace fatalities, which should pay more.
@logic11isGod Unfortunately youtube comments don't have the depth and breadth needed to address this topic, but the perception of feminism comes not from the definition you gave, but from many observations of what is happening in reality, not in theory (and I am not anti-feminism by the way, but don't feel represented by it as a male, I feel that when feminists talk about men getting to be the way they are they aren't ever talking about men like me who are fairly masculine by nature).
@logic11isGod I believe the current perception of feminism is a conservative backlash. Men feel threatened because their position of power has been threatened, so they paint feminists as way more violent than we actually are. It's just a smear campaign.
@logic11isGod That's probably because men are more likely to work high-risk blue collar jobs (they have the physical strength). You don't see as many female construction workers because of the physical demands of the labour.
@logic11isGod Where did she demonize masculinity? She said traditional expectations of masculinity are very damaging to those whom it does not fit. You might live up to those expectations, but many men don't.
@Stratus41298 "Sex is actually a made up term when describing someone's GENDER"
Are you out of your mind? You've swallowed the feminist propaganda hook, line, and sinker, haven't you! Are all feminists as stupid as you? You don't live in the world of reality, you live in some twisted feminazi delusion!
@Stratus41298 Idiots like you can't be reasoned with. By your statements you've indicated that you do not want to view reality as it actually is, you just want to believe the feminist nonsense. You seem very anti-science. Okay, if that's how you want it. I might as well have fun insulting your stupid ass.
@wereaux I love the word "feminazi". Mmmm, yess, equal rights is just like killing millions of Jews. Perfect analogy. Virginia Woolf is basically Hitler.
Feminism is the absurd communist/marxist idea of SAMENESS rather than EQUAL OPPORTUNITY. It to the core conflicts with Liberty, Freedom of Choice and The Pursuit of Happiness for ALL in modern society. For rather than providing EVERYBODY with equal opportunity for us to do with it what we like. Feminism dictates that we shall all do exactly the same thing or else we are not equal. Clearly violating the freedoms of both men and women. Feminism thus is NOT EQUALITY but enforced SAMENESS.
I love the video however I would state that while I am pretty much in agreement with everything you said I do not consider myself feminist. I think the word etymologically would imply that the interest in entirely for the welfare of woman and not gender equality. I prefer to say I work towards gender equality instead. To me to what your saying almost sounds like "white power! oh but white power means power to people of all skin colours." (my intent is not to equate feminism with being racist.)
@Yurothehotot I also prefer to work towards gender equality and I regard myself as a feminist. Sounds like you care too much about what people think about when you say you're a feminist.
@Parvaneha no I just feel like the term feminist by the background of the word refers to females only. I also know way too many "feminists" that outright deny that men have problems in today's society too, I'm not saying all but still a disturbing amount. Meanwhile we have Sharon Osbourne cracking jokes on T.V. about a man being castrated by his wife when asking for a divorce, worst of all the audience was encouraging it. And theres no major outrage from any feminist groups I know of.
@Yurothehotot Perhaps that was the case when women started the first and second wave revolution. Nowadays, most feminists I know mostly work towards gender equality instead of exclusively women's welfare. I am fully aware of men's problems in society. A lot of men feel the pressure of "being a real man" (being strong, not showing emotions) and it makes me sad that a man is not taken seriously when he's a victim of domestic abuse or even rape.
Your idea of where men and women are in today's society are inaccurate. In fact, the law system is more lenient with women. Work and Labor units hire woman before men, do to sexual attractions, and WILL get paid more for having bigger boobs. The only shortfall women have to men in this world is getting a physical job where REAL labor exists. Not only that, a woman can kill my unborn child, but I can't cuz I'd go to jail for it. Get my drift yet?
Women in politics: Margaret Thatcher, Benizer Butto, Corazon Aquino, Hillary Clinton, Condoleza Rice, the leaders of both Argentina and Germany... I can't think of any others at the momment but I know there out there on the world stage.
Men have the upper hand? So when a boat is sinking it's always save the women and children first. If hostages are being held it's always release the women and children. Strangely, you don't find too many feminists arguing against that. Wpmen still don't have to register with select of service when they turn 18. Men get paid more? If you'd do a little research instead of arguing hearsay you'll see that men do, but there's a reason. Men work more while women take more time off from the work place
@zperra And it's not simply that. Men work longer hours and more overtime than women by choice. Just google search it and you'll find that it's true. Men get paid more not because they are men. They get paid more because the put more time and effort into working.
@Neoeclectic What does hours worked have to do with one's salary? If a man makes $60k a year so should a woman. Period. Overtime is where the discrepancy should lie.
@Parvaneha Only that women don't do the same amount of work as men. Google search and you'll see. Men on average work longer hours and more overtime than women.
@Stratus41298 Like they say you can't make the blind see. If you really want to argue a valid point try researching this pay discrepancy between men and women before rendering an opinion
@Parvaneha but that isn't the case. Women don't earn less after working the same number of hours in their chosen career. That's the way it is portrayed, but when you account for actual hours worked in many fields women actually earn more on average then men. However, they tend to take more time off, prioitize family to a higher degree, etc. Is that due to cultural conditioning? Maybe, not something we can know without changing culture and trying again.
@logic11isGod Because men don't spend enough time taking care of the kids? The average American father spends 7 hours a week on primary childcare. The mother has to pick up the slack. Women are expected to take care of the family AND work. Men are just expected to work.
If men and women are equal how can someone show their masculinity and femininity. If you make them equal in the way you say so and there is a "genderless" society how can boys show their masculinity and girls show their femininity besides saying one has a penis and one has a vagina?
@Swizzik Equal in the sense of job opportunities. She's not talking about looking the same or doing exactly the same stuff. Not every man is the same, right? Not every man is a tall, strong, tough, sports loving guy. And not every woman is a nurturing Barbie doll who loves shopping. A man is still a man, despite his lack in interests for sports for example. And girls who like skateboarding or video games are still girls.
@Parvaneha I'm asking are there male traits and female traits in the society feminist want to create. I mean character traits, that we can say men generally do or female generally do.
@Swizzik There will always be exceptions to what people "generally" do. You just have to do what you feel like. Not everybody is a Barbie/Action Man stereotype. But a lot of girls don't play video games (and never tried) because they think "it's only for boys" and a lot of guys can not express their feelings when they feel depressed because "feelings are for little girls". Everyone should feel free to be who they want to be, who cares if it's a masculine or feminine trait.
@Parvaneha Everyone should do what they want but to say that people shouldn't care whether a trait is masculine or feminine is flat out BS. Women act a certain way and Men act a certain way. All over the world more men are into sports and more women are into makeup and jewels and whatnot. I'm not going to say that this isn't socially constructed but its that way because of our physiology. Men are stronger so being strong is a manly trait and women rear children so that is seen as a feminine one.
@Swizzik I understand what you're saying. Men and women are indeed physically different. But not all traits are determined by your physical strength or the fact that you can give birth. Do men ONLY have manly traits? No. What about men who aren't that physically strong? What about men who have a passion for, let's say, baking? Or ballet? These are considered "feminine" hobbies. What about men who are taught to talk about their emotions when they're feeling depressed? They're still men.
@Swizzik You say women act a certain way and men act a certain way. What about people who don't act that way? There will ALWAYS be exceptions. Is a woman considered manly? Is a man considered feminine? And why should we care?
Women and men have differing brain architecture. While this does not make one more or less intelligent than the other, it does mean that the two genders think act and react differently.
@VinnyMonster1 Hmm but one of the problem with institutionalized prejudice is that often we think we are giving equal chances but really our subconscious biases get the better of us. It's not enough to treat everyone equally, though that's a good start - you have to think about your own internal biases (everyone has them). That's a huge part of equalist theory (be it regarding sexism, racism, whatever).
@VinnyMonster1 Because when the movement started out women were really, really fucked. Like not allowed to vote or own property fucked. And the movement was at that time primarily concerned with women, so they called themselves feminists. Come up to present and third-wave feminism most of us are concerned with deconstructing gender and many actually describe themselves as "gender equalists". It's just not a well-known term so those outside academia don't really know it.
Thank you so much for laying things out has they are. There is so much backlash towards feminism these days because people just don't understand what it really entails. The other blog has the idea completely wrong.
@wereaux I'm just surprised that you have the nerve to call someone who has a college degree, who is studying this subject and obviously knows a lot of information about it, who only put up this video with the purpose to inform ignorant people like yourself a liar. "Wolf in sheep's clothing"? You make it sound like feminism is some sort of conspiracy theory. Show me one thing she says in this video that makes it seem like feminism would harm society.
@Gypsygrl19 My comment was directed at you and your stupid statement. Feminism demonizes men and pushes laws on society that target men: VAWA, Rape Shield, Mandatory Arrest, etc... Now they are trying to destroy the concept of innocent until proven guilty, and have succeesed in doing so in some states. Feminism is a leftist ideology that is fundamentally anti-male at its core. The reason people hate feminism so much is because they're waking up to the truth.
@wereaux It's really funny that all of you anti-feminists make up your own mind about what feminism is rather than actually listening to feminists explain what they believe in. I don't know any feminists who are radical man haters, isn't that funny??
@thememoirss It doesn't matter what you personally think feminism is. The ideology of feminism at its very core is leftist/socialist and hates men. It is a cult-like ideology full of dogma and paranoid delusions. The feminist movement has done terrible things and continues to do terrible things which harm society, and you are too stupid and ignorant to either see it or raise a finger to stop it.
So no, I don't give a shit what you think about it because you're a blind fool, a useful idiot.
@wereaux You know I'm starting to think you have some kind of mental illness or social disorder. That's really the only reason I can think of to explain someone who is so willfully stupid. I'd kind of like to meet you in person just so I can put the pieces together and see what kind of person you really are.
@Gypsygrl19 What it entails is flipping gender roles and making men feel like shit and useless with no role in society so they are flipping the bird at everything. Feminism is so destructive the results are being seen now and it will be even worse in the future. For white people anyways.
@wereaux I would love nothing more than to have a reasonable discussion about feminism and sexism in contemporary society. Coincidentally it seems like the anti-feminists are the ones who are angry and opposed to opening up a rational discourse. Cheers.
@lawngnome100 The problem is that most feminists' idea of a "reasonable" discussion is one in which THEY talk and everyone blindly accepts whatever they have to say. And if a person objects to anything feminists say, they're merely defending the "Patriarchy". It's a one-sided affair.
But you're right, it's a waste of time because I've heard all the feminist arguments before, and you'll never convince me. It's not because I'm close-minded, it's because feminism is actually wrong.
@wereaux It's unfortunate that you feel this way. I would be more than happy to engage in a dialogue with you about why you are so hostile toward the women's movement. I would actually be really interested to hear about your experiences so that I can better understand why so many people in general have such a heated reaction toward feminism.
LOL you're funny! :D im glad to hear the truth on feminism. just ONE thing about your video that i noticed. you said a man is expected to be chivalric and bang lots of chicks.. aren't those opposites? jw :D <3
i hav never understood how WOMEN could be against feminism. its like an italian saying "italianism is stupid!" ..but youre italian lol
personally i would like to see all 3 options in effect. it would clear up alot that our canadian education system seems to be misconstruding. its not all rainbows and butterflies after all.
anyways, u seem very bright, and i would love a response to kno wat u think
3 put down all the petty groupings of minority 'isms' and simply unite under the banner of humanism. this eliminates all aforementioned problems at once, and even includes the people u mentioned who identify themselves outside the typical gender categories of 'male' and 'female' such as transgenered people, or people who were castrated and even hermaphrodites, all of which seem to get little to no considersation. they are few, but shouldn't be excluded bcuz of a technicality. -cont-
of feminism which many critics see as an improper definition, and apply it to a word that more accurately describes those values say "genderism"?
2 change the commonly taught definition of feminism to more accurately represent the inherent meaning of the word and understand that FEMinism cannot include male rights as it would then cease to be FEMinism and become something else. saying feminism somehow includes male rights is like saying gingerism includes brunette rights, if u follow me. -cont-
very good vid. i enjoyed it. however the word feminism inherently means that it focuses on female rights, not males. malism focuses on male rights and represents the other side of the spectrum.
this can however be argued by saying in achieving equal rights for females u achieve the goals of malism at the same and vis er vis. this is true, which means that difference is symantical, and neither word repsents anything unique. 3 possibilities then arise: 1 we can take your given definition -cont-
I am not a lobbyist or politician, so I've no idea which specific "rabid dog" feminists you're referring to (although it's more likely you're continuing your thread of stereotyping). Regardless, I think the point being missed here is that modern feminism is not one thing. If one group of feminists does something that I (or the cause as a whole) do not agree with, this does not poison the entire movement.
Also, thanks for the offensive vitriol, but rabid bitch would have been more apt.
@octoverpuss "Regardless, I think the point being missed here is that modern feminism is not one thing. If one group of feminists does something that I (or the cause as a whole) do not agree with, this does not poison the entire movement."
You bet your ass it poisons the entire movement, especially because a) There is no need for feminism in western society, and b) The so-called "radicals" are running the movement. In World War 2 we didn't just fight the Nazis, we fought ALL of Germany.
I dig this. And come on people! I understand defending your opinions but don't get pissed off when someone doesn't agree with you or if you can't change someones mind. When it comes to ideologies technically everyone thinks that they're right....and sadly they are to an extent. Soooo with that being said, Yay feminism! (maybe they should change the title though, this word is getting some serious backlash these days...)
@AcidReflux27: First of all, I am not speaking for all feminists, but just for myself. But I am a feminist, and I do not think all gender roles are bad. I ascribe to them myself. I am a feminist, and I still wear makeup, and I love to cook. I love chivalry, because I think it is romantic. Equity is not the same thing as equality.
@wereaux: Actually, sex is determined by whether they are male or female. "Gender" is the term sociologists use to ascribe the social and psychological role that men and women play. For example, little boys are blessed in blue jeans, and girls in pink dresses. Boys are encouraged to play sports and play with trucks and girls are encouraged to dance and play dolls.
Believe it or not, your gender actually plays a role in the things you choose to like, what kind of clothes you wear, etc.
@Psychubus ""Gender" is the term sociologists use..."
Yes, I am well aware that feminists misappropriated the word "gender" back in the 1970's. Most people today still use it to denote biological sex.
"..to ascribe the social and psychological role that men and women play. For example, little boys are blessed in blue jeans, and girls in pink dresses."
This social constructivist nonsense is laughable for the most part, as there is more evidence for biological determinism.
@wereaux: It is not just feminists, it is the entire field of sociologists and psychologists. And that term is actually the accurate one. You will not be able to be able to publish a study in sociology if you misappropriate the word "gender" for "sex."
The fact that women wear dresses, and men wear pants is not biologically determined. It is a choice. There is no DNA encoded for what you choose to wear.
@Psychubus "The fact that women wear dresses, and men wear pants is not biologically determined. It is a choice. There is no DNA encoded for what you choose to wear."
Gee, where did I say fashion sense was encoded in DNA? I thought we were talking about stuff like personality traits and relative temperament associated with masculine vs feminine, and the way males and females naturally differentiate and segregate themselves based on sex. Maybe you were talking about a sale at Macy's, who knows.
@wereaux: Why would you think what you wear doesn't have to do with your gender? You don't wear skirts or heels because you're a man, thus what you wear is depicted by your gender.
@Psychubus "Why would you think what you wear doesn't have to do with your gender?"
You're lost in the weeds. Men and women have a built in tendency to outwardly differentiate themselves by sex through adornment. In an advanced society with modern textiles women wear low-cut blouses and tight miniskirts while men wear jeans and t-shirts. In a primitive society, women wear elaborate grass skirts and flowers while men wear animal skin on their groin. It's about attracting a mate, dummy.
@wereaux: Many women in modern society wear jeans and pants, which seems to tell us that certain attributes are cultural. Even the example that you gave implies that these attributes are cultural, as they tend to change in history aligned with the comparative normative culture of the time.
@Psychubus Oh brother, you really don't get it, do you! The specific kinds of apparel women choose to wear is irrelevant (and BTW, the jeans they wear tend to accentuate the female body) except as it differentiates. The fact that some women dress a little more like men doesn't negate the general trend in sex-based behavior. An occasional deviation does not invalidate the rule. On average, men and women across all time and cultures differentiate themselves. That suggests it is biological.
@wereaux: Actually that depends from culture to culture. In ancient Japan, male and female kimonos are practically identical with the bow size being the only difference. In Samoa, men and women rags made of leaves to cover their privates. These things are socially constructed.
Even chivalry is socially constructed. The concept of chivalry differs from country to country. Babies are not born with any biological concept of chivalry, it is learned and ingrained in us from an early age.
@Psychubus These things are socially constructed."
Remember what you stated earlier about burden of proof? Cough it up! I dare say you don't have a shred of valid scientific evidence to support these bogus claims.
@wereaux: I sent you a link from NYU's department of metaphysical reality. Careful, there's a whole lot about existentialism and "big words" you might not understand in there. LOL
@wereaux: I sent you a link from NYU's department of metaphysical reality. Careful, there's a whole lot about existentialism and "big words" you might not understand in there. LOL
i always laugh when people complain about how things are 'socially constructed," when really, that just means that things are learned and those things are passed on. why the hell does that have to be a negative thing? did you ever stop to think that just because something is "socially constructed" does not mean it is an evil that needs to be destroyed, and may actually be a survival mechanism for our species. imagine, if with every generation, our kids forgot to teach their kids..
@Psychubus " It is not just feminists, it is the entire field of sociologists and psychologists."
Who cares? The social "sciences" (if you can call it science) are notoriously political. How many times has the DSM been revised due to the bickering and politics within the field?
@wereaux: To my knowledge, I believe they are currently revising the DSM-V. In any case, the DSM-V has more to do with medical sciences rather than the social sciences.
@Psychubus: Also, of course it makes sense for them to constantly change the DSM. Society is constantly progressing and evolving, thus new diseases become born.
@Psychubus "DSM-V has more to do with medical sciences rather than the social sciences."
That's a laugh. The revised DSM-IV is full of psychological theories about personality and mental illness. It contains some limited medical references, but it definitely falls well within the realm of social science. It is a manual fraught with political wrangling, and serves as a warning for what happens when political correctness is allowed to impede scientific inquiry.
@wereaux: The DSM-V is not just used for psychologists, it is used for the entire field of psychiatry and neurology which are divisions of the medical sciences. Of course the entire field of healthcare is fraught with political wrangling (Big Pharma, etc.) but this does not deduce from the factual aspect of the studies themselves.
In any case, you're making red herring arguments by distracting us from the original topic at hand. Not really sure how we got from feminism to the DSM.
@Psychubus "The DSM-V is not just used for psychologists, it is used for the entire field of psychiatry and neurology..."
I never said the DSM was utterly without value, I said it was fraught with politics.
"In any case, you're making red herring arguments by distracting us from the original topic at hand."
Damn, you make me laugh a lot! The original topic was that feminists are liars! LOL! You sure lose track of details easily, I mean, your red herring accusation is laughable.
@wereaux: Have you ever even taken any course on feminism? Or have you simply taken all your perceptions on feminism from other mens' perception of what feminism is supposed to be?
@Psychubus "Have you ever even taken any course on feminism?"
I am proud to say I have never taken a Women's Studies (or Gender Studies) class. It's safe to say I never will. I consider those courses to be un-academic brainwashing for buffoons. Classes like that are mind-rotting garbage of the lowest form. Only people too stupid to pass college level math and science would willingly major in that worthless crap.
@wereaux: So... you yourself have never studied any piece of feminism, and yet you peruse around criticizing it as if you have some sort of authority on it? You must be fully aware of a subject's contents to criticize or analyze it, and this applies for any subject. (Economics, music, biology) Otherwise you are not actually criticizing legitimate feminism, but rather, your personal interpretation of what you construe to be your vague idea of feminism is. Makes for plenty of strawmen.
@Psychubus I don't need to waste my valuable time and money taking those shitty classes to know feminism sucks. I never took Astrology or Palm reading classes either, and yet I know enough about it to know it's crap. Should a physics professor be required to take classes on flat earth theory in order to criticize the Flat Earth Society? Give me a break.
@wereaux: So far, you've thought the following things about feminism:
-That they seek out to make the two sexes EQUAL, as opposed to having equal OPPORTUNITIES
-You confuse equity for equality
-You deduce the entire field of social constructivist psychology. Any intermediate biology class teaches that innate nature is both genetic and socially constructed. People have a will and make choices outside of their genetic composition.
Thus, I can infer you don't know what feminists teach.
@Psychubus "That they seek out to make the two sexes EQUAL, as opposed to having equal OPPORTUNITIES"
There is a huge body of feminist thought that subscribes to the idea that men and women are exactly equal in every way except their genitalia. These are called "difference deniers" by some MRA's. This strange idea is popular enough within feminist circles that you should have heard of it somewhere along the line. Your ignorance of this belief suggests you know very little about feminism.
@Psychubus "That they seek out to make the two sexes EQUAL.."
Legal Dominance feminism, feminists who have infiltrated our legal system, are attempting to pass laws to try and artificially "equalize" every aspect of society and employment so that the ratio of men to women is 1. This means that if that there are only 10% women in the US Park service, then there will be a hiring freeze on male applicants until there are an equal number of females employed. Again, I'd say you're the ignorant one!
That's hilarious! Nope, I am not confused by those terms at all. Feminists are often confused by the word "equality", since it is used all the time to describe the goal of feminism, because they mistakenly assume it means "equity".
Equal outcomes are the actual goal of modern feminism, and is contrary to the western liberal tradition of freedom, equal rights, and blind justice. This is a socialist version of equality, and it is in no way equitable.
@wereaux: HA! You don't even know why you think socialism is bad, do you? Those corporate fat-cats aren't on your side, you know. You're probably one of those people who thinks socialism, communism, and Marxism is all the same thing. In fact, I'm willing to bet you're one of those people who's never even read a Karl Marx book!
Public education and access to police stations and library is technically "socialism," do you think these are bad things?
@Psychubus "HA! You don't even know why you think socialism is bad, do you?"
Way to put words in my mouth. The fact is, equality of outcome is an evil and repugnant socialist idea that was pushed by the Soviet Union. It is also a fact that modern feminism pushes for equal outcomes in the context of gender, which is also an evil and repugnant idea.
I will not get into an argument about communism/socialism vs capitalism. But modern feminism was heavily influenced by marxism and socialism.
@wereaux: Funny you mention the Soviet Union. Actually there has never been a truly socialist government, as there has always been somebody at the top hoarding in the wealth while impoverishing others. People also often confuse the DPRK for being socialist, when in reality they are a totalitarian dictatorship. A better example of socialism would be hippie communes or the Amish. Everybody does their own piece of work. Everybody gets to eat that night.
@wereaux: I am actually a huge fan of Karl Marx. I find that, much in the same way that you are critical of feminism, most people who are critical of Marx have never read any of his works. In actuality, if you read Marx and his alienated labor theory, he describes the way working constantly in pursuit of a meaningless commodity alienates you from yourself, your love life, your spirituality, and from humanity. Even capitalists agree with this statement.
@Psychubus Karl Marx's ideas caused the deaths of millions of people. Folks like you who defend Marx need to just crawl into a sewer and live there forever.
@Albacorewing Have you ever even read Karl Marx? Because people who are the most critical of Marx are typically the ones who have never even read any of his works. You probably don't even know the difference between Marxism, socialism, and communism.
@wereaux: And if you actually read Marx’s labor theory of value, he is advocating more of an egalitarian wage system, as opposed to total socialism or communism. One in which the workers get a share of the company that they all invest their time and their life in. The option for retirement benefits as opposed to 401K's, and things of that nature.
@Psychubus "You deduce [sic] the entire field of social constructivist psychology."
Yeah, I deduced it was fatally flawed. Sure, there are certain things which could be said to be "social constructs", like money and citizenship. But when feminists try to claim that gender is socially constructed, they're stark raving mad!
"Any intermediate biology class teaches that innate nature is both genetic and socially constructed."
Not exactly. They teach that biology and environment both play a role.
@wereaux: "They teach that biology and environment both play a role." Do you understand what that means? Biology = genetics, environment is another word for social construction.
It's not just feminists who claim that gender is socially constructed. Men such as Michel Foucault and Jean Paul Sartre say the exact same thing. As a matter of fact according to men such as Foucault and Nietzsche, they say EVERYTHING is socially constructed, not just gender.
@Psychubus "Do you understand what that means? Biology = genetics, environment is another word for social construction."
LOL! Environment includes lots of things, like chemicals in the food or drinking water, weather, psychological or physical trauma, just to name a few.
"It's not just feminists who claim that gender is socially constructed. Men such as Michel Foucault and Jean Paul Sartre say the exact same thing."
Who cares? Those dudes are examples of fools who got lost in their own minds
@wereaux: And... what on earth do you think psychological trauma falls under? That completely falls under social construction. All the soldiers who come back with PTSD weren't born with this gene.
@wereaux: books dot google dot com/books?id=yzQC9B-jCVQC&printsec=frontcover#v=onepage&q&f=false
That link is a Judith Butler book on the mimesis and performative nature of gender. Butler, as you may or may not know, is the leading authority on not just feminist theory, but queer theory and existentialist theory. She is right up there with Foucault, Nietzsche, Simone de Beauvoire, etc.
You asked me to cite my sources, there's another one of my sources.
@Psychubus "That link is a Judith Butler book on the mimesis and performative nature of gender."
Her ideas and her work are essentially worthless and without any scientific merit. I dismiss her ideas like I dismiss Astrology. It's all nonsense and fairytales.
@wereaux: It does not follow from the fact that identification shapes action, shapes life plans, that the identification itself must be thought of as voluntary. I don't recall ever choosing to identify as male; but being male has shaped many of my plans and actions." -Anthony Appiah
Thus, to say that only feminists believe in social construction is a completely ludicrous statement that fails to take into account male psychologists and existentialists of this world.
@Psychubus "Thus, to say that only feminists believe in social construction is a completely ludicrous statement that fails to take into account male psychologists and existentialists of this world."
Boy you really like to put words in my mouth huh! You gonna keep making a big deal about something I never said? Or are you going to start being reasonable and stop going off on tangents?
@wereaux: So, then, why are you constantly blaming feminists for something that a huge percentage of the population believes in? I'm going based off quotes such as:
"Yes, I am well aware that feminists misappropriated the word "gender""
"But when feminists try to claim that gender is socially constructed, they're stark raving mad!"
@wereaux: I never said it's true simply because a lot of people believe in it. I'm asking you why you are SELECTIVELY blaming a group for condoning something that a whole hoard of other people believe in.
@Psychubus Ideas about gender and the social construction of gender are not something that "a huge percentage of the population believes in". We are discussing feminism here, not sociology. Feminists are trying to force these ideas into our society and our legal system. I don't care for sociologists either but they are not pushing the issue as hard. I have the right to oppose anything which I feel is factually incorrect or morally repugnant, no matter who's trying to sell it.
@wereaux: Wow, really? So then, how surprising is it that JSTOR, one of the most solid sources for medical studies, even cites existentialists such as Michele Foucault as evidence for social construction? See link here: jstor dot org/pss/378628
I also find it highly amusing that you don't follow scholars with published studies, but you follow ridiculous Youtube links to reinforce your beliefs. Just goes to show the world is truly becoming illiterate and uneducated.
@Psychubus "how surprising is it that JSTOR, one of the most solid sources for medical studies, even cites existentialists such as Michele Foucault as evidence for social construction?"
WTF? Say what? Are you talking about the online database for storing journal articles? Dude, you're either trying to pull the wool over my eyes with some bullshit or you're clueless.
@wereaux: (cont. from 2nd message) Look, I go around criticizing Milton Friedman's works frequently, but I feel that I have enough knowledge to make such deductions, as I have read his books, and studied economic theory extensively. Maybe not as extensively as Friedman has, but enough to say that his concept of Laissez-Faire trickle-down theory is ineffective. If I were to critique Friedman without having read even 1 of his books, I'd be an idiot who doesn't even know Friedman's points.
@Psychubus "Also simply because you say my accusation is laughable doesn't make it so, that simply makes for lazy debating."
Not if it should be obvious. It is laughable because I only mentioned the DSM as an example of how politicised the field of psychology, and social sciences in general, have become. I brought it up in response to you telling me that psychologists believe that gender is socially constructed. You're the one who took off on a tangent.
@Psychubus Your scary quote comment "IF FEMINISM DOESN'T CATER TO MEN, IT MUST BE WRONG!!!" is incorrect. My correction would be "IF FEMINISM DOESN'T CATER TO ALL OF SOCIETY IT IS WRONG." Feminism is about solving human problems by concentrating on women's problems. Lets solve math equations with only integers and see how well it goes. You must respect men as human beings if you expect it to work at all. I don't expect to convert you to this radical idea that a solid ideology would defend all.
@TMac473: You're making strawman arguments. I'd like you to name me one feminist scholar who has ever represented any disdain or disrespect for men in her works.
Of course feminism's core is about tackling issues that primarily affect women. That's the whole point, is they focus on fields that affect women (though branches of feminism have expanded to homosexuals, minorities, and underprivileged men). You wouldn't ask the black community to cater to or represent the white community.
@Psychubus "I'd like you to name me one feminist scholar who has ever represented any disdain or disrespect for men in her works." HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHA Hilarious. You must be blind as a bat and as literate as a door. Simply: 3w. youtube .com/user/girlwriteswhat?feature=g-all-c#p/a/u/1/AQWoNhrY_fM That was good for a laugh though.... What kind of paint fumes are you on?
@TMac473: So, random girl who posts on Youtube is representative of the entire feminist community? You're utterly laughable if you eat this shit up, and I asked you to mention a feminist SCHOLAR. You know, somebody like Judith Butler, Winnifred Woodhull, Catherine McKinnon, etc. etc.
@Psychubus "I asked you to mention a feminist SCHOLAR [who dislikes men]. You know, somebody like Judith Butler, Winnifred Woodhull, Catherine McKinnon, etc. etc."
@TMac473: You must be as literate as a door if you actually post a FUCKING YOUTUBE LINK as evidence, as opposed to an actual published academic study, or a scholarly article or book that actually represents the field and study of feminism. I doubt you would be smart enough to even understand Judith Butler's works.
@Psychubus "You must be as literate as a door if you actually post a FUCKING YOUTUBE LINK as evidence, as opposed to an actual published academic study, or a scholarly article or book that actually represents the field and study of feminism."
It's funny how feminists try to act like this is a formal Oxford style debate and demand strict standards from their opponents, or how they'll only accept an academic paper with footnotes from a Women's Studies department. What a joke! This is Youtube!
@TMac473: Youtube links are unverifiable, because: a) This woman does not provide sources. b) This is propaganda, because she is selective-reading and taking minor snippets of quotes out of entire books and articles, and taking them out of context. I know this, because I have actually read most of these articles she is reading, and that is NOT AT ALL what they are literally saying.
@Psychubus Sure thing Succubus. Any coincidence between your name and you defending feminism? Succubus.. a 'succubus' (plural succubi; from Latin succubare, "to lie under") is a female demon which comes to men, especially monks, in their dreams to seduce them and have sexual intercourse with them, drawing energy from the men to sustain themselves, often until the point of exhaustion or death. Sounds like you through and through. You and others can hate on GWW... All feminists are like that!
@TMac473: Nope. Actually my name is a double entendre. "Psychubus," as in "Succubus of the psyche," as in I will blow your mind away. Has nothing to do with sexuality, at least not in a negative way.
I am all for womens rights but I find feminists annoying. I dont need someone to tell me I am equal to a man, I know I am. People should get jobs because they are good at the job not because of their gender. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, we wont all agree which is what makes the world an exciting and annoying place. :)
There are different kinds of feminism, the girl in the other video was talking about was militant feminists. You are not a militant feminist.. you have common sense. :)
xXmichaela1Xx 4 hours ago
I'm ok with this.
cory2146 17 hours ago
you're so smart
bobthemailman08 20 hours ago
intellectually ur a humanitarian. feminist haven't invented the equal rights for everyone idea. tha fact that ur trying to stick the feminist label onto the humanitarian ideas, shows that ur emotionally not ready to concede, that feminism is just one in many rights movements and nothing special. that makes u susceptible to radical feminist propaganda and skews ur view on what actuall equality means.
beyondEV 2 days ago
I've never met the man-hater feminist...but the 'man-haters' I've met tend to be the ones who espouse gender roles/divisions. Curious, no?
cynicalskunk8 2 days ago
This has been flagged as spam show
here is a word from a man, FUCK FEMINISM, there is a saying that goes like "if u fight nature u'r bound to lose", u'r fighting testosterone. u know what's next
warrior4just 3 days ago
Comment removed
warrior4just 3 days ago
Favorite part: "What happened is, I was born with a brain." Thank you!
lna52288 4 days ago
Thank you so much for this video. You've expressed my feelings watching the original video far more articulately than I could've. Were this the real world I would offer a hug! Hell, several hugs, if you so desired! And maybe a cookie!
kmecameron 4 days ago
I am concerned with your comment about not knowing where this image of "militant Feminism" is coming from...Although my wife is a "contemporary feminist" or what she often says post-postmodern feminist like you, there are still certainly many groups (yes plural) in our University that frequently fight for militant feminist views.
collinsmythos 5 days ago
Why don't you address which issues you, as a young woman, are affected by, that you're fighting to change. Seriously, you state women are still below men in our society. I believe you are deluded in this. Women are already 'more than equal' yet are still using the same excuse of fighting for equality. You admit to the *real* problems facing men at 4:20 yet only seem to really care about the representation of women in politics. Do men complain that men are under-represented in hair salons?
onehandontool 6 days ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@onehandontool Politics are really damn important. And men should be complaining about how they're locked out of "feminine" endeavors. It's unfair.
relmneiko 3 days ago
Feminism is a hate movement. It is not about equality it is about female superiority. Women already have more rights than men and are still looking for more.
patrickhenryist 6 days ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@patrickhenryist .....you didn't actually watch the video, did you.
relmneiko 3 days ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Feminism brings up "mens issues" only when it is an issue that feminists want men to engage in, like emotional behavior, crying, cut that beard, put on some nice lotion, be all touchy feely, Hide any slight sign of testosterone in your body, be more feminine etc. This is not what men generally want! How is that considering men? NO feminism still manhating to the core and you will probably be a poor teacher.
crangdaniel 6 days ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Feminism is the absurd communist/marxist idea of SAMENESS rather than EQUAL OPPORTUNITY. It to the core conflicts with Liberty, Freedom of Choice and The Pursuit of Happiness for ALL in modern society. For rather than providing EVERYBODY with equal opportunity for us to do with it what we like. Feminism dictates that we shall all do exactly the same thing or else we are not equal. Clearly violating the freedoms of both men and women. Feminism thus is NOT EQUALITY but ENFORCED SAMENESS
crangdaniel 6 days ago
you make so much more sense than that other shemale looking black haired woman.........should that be what she is called?"
kristarlight1977 6 days ago
@kristarlight1977 You're retarded. LOL
sk8erconster 17 hours ago
What I found interesting is that you actually demonized masculinity in this video. I was raised in a very, very feminist household but I am fairly masculine (I don't like sports, but I love combat sports for example).
You should also look at where the gender pay gap comes from, it isn't actually as simple as it looks on the surface, and in many ways once you correct for hours worked women earn slightly more. Men also make up 95% of the workplace fatalities, which should pay more.
logic11isGod 1 week ago
@logic11isGod Unfortunately youtube comments don't have the depth and breadth needed to address this topic, but the perception of feminism comes not from the definition you gave, but from many observations of what is happening in reality, not in theory (and I am not anti-feminism by the way, but don't feel represented by it as a male, I feel that when feminists talk about men getting to be the way they are they aren't ever talking about men like me who are fairly masculine by nature).
logic11isGod 1 week ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@logic11isGod I believe the current perception of feminism is a conservative backlash. Men feel threatened because their position of power has been threatened, so they paint feminists as way more violent than we actually are. It's just a smear campaign.
relmneiko 3 days ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@logic11isGod That's probably because men are more likely to work high-risk blue collar jobs (they have the physical strength). You don't see as many female construction workers because of the physical demands of the labour.
relmneiko 3 days ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@logic11isGod Where did she demonize masculinity? She said traditional expectations of masculinity are very damaging to those whom it does not fit. You might live up to those expectations, but many men don't.
relmneiko 3 days ago
Sex is actually a made up term when describing someone's GENDER, but I get what you're saying. Just to share this with everyone:
fem·i·nism/ˈfeməˌnizəm/
Noun:
The advocacy of women's rights on the grounds of political, social, and economic equality to men.
Stratus41298 1 week ago
@Stratus41298 "Sex is actually a made up term when describing someone's GENDER"
Are you out of your mind? You've swallowed the feminist propaganda hook, line, and sinker, haven't you! Are all feminists as stupid as you? You don't live in the world of reality, you live in some twisted feminazi delusion!
wereaux 1 week ago
@wereaux Wow. You sure showed me the light by insulting me. Man i'm glad we had this DISCUSSION.
Stratus41298 1 week ago
@Stratus41298 Idiots like you can't be reasoned with. By your statements you've indicated that you do not want to view reality as it actually is, you just want to believe the feminist nonsense. You seem very anti-science. Okay, if that's how you want it. I might as well have fun insulting your stupid ass.
wereaux 6 days ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@wereaux I love the word "feminazi". Mmmm, yess, equal rights is just like killing millions of Jews. Perfect analogy. Virginia Woolf is basically Hitler.
relmneiko 3 days ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Feminism is the absurd communist/marxist idea of SAMENESS rather than EQUAL OPPORTUNITY. It to the core conflicts with Liberty, Freedom of Choice and The Pursuit of Happiness for ALL in modern society. For rather than providing EVERYBODY with equal opportunity for us to do with it what we like. Feminism dictates that we shall all do exactly the same thing or else we are not equal. Clearly violating the freedoms of both men and women. Feminism thus is NOT EQUALITY but enforced SAMENESS.
crangdaniel 1 week ago
yay! <3
rabbitsuit18 1 week ago
I love the video however I would state that while I am pretty much in agreement with everything you said I do not consider myself feminist. I think the word etymologically would imply that the interest in entirely for the welfare of woman and not gender equality. I prefer to say I work towards gender equality instead. To me to what your saying almost sounds like "white power! oh but white power means power to people of all skin colours." (my intent is not to equate feminism with being racist.)
Yurothehotot 1 week ago
@Yurothehotot I also prefer to work towards gender equality and I regard myself as a feminist. Sounds like you care too much about what people think about when you say you're a feminist.
Parvaneha 1 week ago
@Parvaneha no I just feel like the term feminist by the background of the word refers to females only. I also know way too many "feminists" that outright deny that men have problems in today's society too, I'm not saying all but still a disturbing amount. Meanwhile we have Sharon Osbourne cracking jokes on T.V. about a man being castrated by his wife when asking for a divorce, worst of all the audience was encouraging it. And theres no major outrage from any feminist groups I know of.
Yurothehotot 1 week ago
@Yurothehotot Perhaps that was the case when women started the first and second wave revolution. Nowadays, most feminists I know mostly work towards gender equality instead of exclusively women's welfare. I am fully aware of men's problems in society. A lot of men feel the pressure of "being a real man" (being strong, not showing emotions) and it makes me sad that a man is not taken seriously when he's a victim of domestic abuse or even rape.
Parvaneha 6 days ago
Your idea of where men and women are in today's society are inaccurate. In fact, the law system is more lenient with women. Work and Labor units hire woman before men, do to sexual attractions, and WILL get paid more for having bigger boobs. The only shortfall women have to men in this world is getting a physical job where REAL labor exists. Not only that, a woman can kill my unborn child, but I can't cuz I'd go to jail for it. Get my drift yet?
Nothing against femies, but damn you twist too.
MysteryPromotes 1 week ago
I bet you and your marxist indoctrinated peers can't wait until you can be out-in-the-open kikedykes. You fucking parrot!
oveid 1 week ago
Women in politics: Margaret Thatcher, Benizer Butto, Corazon Aquino, Hillary Clinton, Condoleza Rice, the leaders of both Argentina and Germany... I can't think of any others at the momment but I know there out there on the world stage.
STSWB5SG1FAN 1 week ago
@STSWB5SG1FAN
Not only are they all politicians, but some of the most corrupt and criminal to name the top.
MysteryPromotes 1 week ago
Men have the upper hand? So when a boat is sinking it's always save the women and children first. If hostages are being held it's always release the women and children. Strangely, you don't find too many feminists arguing against that. Wpmen still don't have to register with select of service when they turn 18. Men get paid more? If you'd do a little research instead of arguing hearsay you'll see that men do, but there's a reason. Men work more while women take more time off from the work place
Neoeclectic 1 week ago
@Neoeclectic: Not every woman takes time off work after having children.
zperra 1 week ago
@zperra And it's not simply that. Men work longer hours and more overtime than women by choice. Just google search it and you'll find that it's true. Men get paid more not because they are men. They get paid more because the put more time and effort into working.
Neoeclectic 1 week ago
@Neoeclectic What does hours worked have to do with one's salary? If a man makes $60k a year so should a woman. Period. Overtime is where the discrepancy should lie.
Stratus41298 1 week ago
@Neoeclectic She's talking about men getting paid more while doing the SAME amount of work.
Parvaneha 1 week ago
@Parvaneha Only that women don't do the same amount of work as men. Google search and you'll see. Men on average work longer hours and more overtime than women.
Neoeclectic 1 week ago
@Neoeclectic Like I already said, overtime and base pay are two separate issues.
Stratus41298 1 week ago
@Stratus41298 Like they say you can't make the blind see. If you really want to argue a valid point try researching this pay discrepancy between men and women before rendering an opinion
Neoeclectic 1 week ago
@Parvaneha but that isn't the case. Women don't earn less after working the same number of hours in their chosen career. That's the way it is portrayed, but when you account for actual hours worked in many fields women actually earn more on average then men. However, they tend to take more time off, prioitize family to a higher degree, etc. Is that due to cultural conditioning? Maybe, not something we can know without changing culture and trying again.
logic11isGod 1 week ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@logic11isGod Because men don't spend enough time taking care of the kids? The average American father spends 7 hours a week on primary childcare. The mother has to pick up the slack. Women are expected to take care of the family AND work. Men are just expected to work.
relmneiko 3 days ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@logic11isGod Also I want to know where you got your stats.
relmneiko 3 days ago
If men and women are equal how can someone show their masculinity and femininity. If you make them equal in the way you say so and there is a "genderless" society how can boys show their masculinity and girls show their femininity besides saying one has a penis and one has a vagina?
Swizzik 1 week ago
@Swizzik Equal in the sense of job opportunities. She's not talking about looking the same or doing exactly the same stuff. Not every man is the same, right? Not every man is a tall, strong, tough, sports loving guy. And not every woman is a nurturing Barbie doll who loves shopping. A man is still a man, despite his lack in interests for sports for example. And girls who like skateboarding or video games are still girls.
Parvaneha 1 week ago
@Parvaneha I'm asking are there male traits and female traits in the society feminist want to create. I mean character traits, that we can say men generally do or female generally do.
Swizzik 1 week ago
@Swizzik There will always be exceptions to what people "generally" do. You just have to do what you feel like. Not everybody is a Barbie/Action Man stereotype. But a lot of girls don't play video games (and never tried) because they think "it's only for boys" and a lot of guys can not express their feelings when they feel depressed because "feelings are for little girls". Everyone should feel free to be who they want to be, who cares if it's a masculine or feminine trait.
Parvaneha 1 week ago
@Parvaneha Everyone should do what they want but to say that people shouldn't care whether a trait is masculine or feminine is flat out BS. Women act a certain way and Men act a certain way. All over the world more men are into sports and more women are into makeup and jewels and whatnot. I'm not going to say that this isn't socially constructed but its that way because of our physiology. Men are stronger so being strong is a manly trait and women rear children so that is seen as a feminine one.
Swizzik 1 week ago
@Swizzik I understand what you're saying. Men and women are indeed physically different. But not all traits are determined by your physical strength or the fact that you can give birth. Do men ONLY have manly traits? No. What about men who aren't that physically strong? What about men who have a passion for, let's say, baking? Or ballet? These are considered "feminine" hobbies. What about men who are taught to talk about their emotions when they're feeling depressed? They're still men.
Parvaneha 1 week ago
@Swizzik You say women act a certain way and men act a certain way. What about people who don't act that way? There will ALWAYS be exceptions. Is a woman considered manly? Is a man considered feminine? And why should we care?
Parvaneha 1 week ago
Women and men have differing brain architecture. While this does not make one more or less intelligent than the other, it does mean that the two genders think act and react differently.
VinnyMonster1 1 week ago 2
As I have said on many vlogs like this, I believe that everyone irrespective of ethnicity, religion, sexuality or gender should have an equal chance.
VinnyMonster1 1 week ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@VinnyMonster1 Hmm but one of the problem with institutionalized prejudice is that often we think we are giving equal chances but really our subconscious biases get the better of us. It's not enough to treat everyone equally, though that's a good start - you have to think about your own internal biases (everyone has them). That's a huge part of equalist theory (be it regarding sexism, racism, whatever).
relmneiko 3 days ago
Question, if feminism is aiming to get everyone equal rights, why is it called Feminism? Why isn't it called Humanism?
VinnyMonster1 1 week ago
@VinnyMonster1
THAAAANK YOUUUUU
MysteryPromotes 1 week ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@VinnyMonster1 Because when the movement started out women were really, really fucked. Like not allowed to vote or own property fucked. And the movement was at that time primarily concerned with women, so they called themselves feminists. Come up to present and third-wave feminism most of us are concerned with deconstructing gender and many actually describe themselves as "gender equalists". It's just not a well-known term so those outside academia don't really know it.
relmneiko 3 days ago
Thank you so much for laying things out has they are. There is so much backlash towards feminism these days because people just don't understand what it really entails. The other blog has the idea completely wrong.
Gypsygrl19 1 week ago 2
@Gypsygrl19 "Thank you so much for laying things out has they are."
Is that Orwellian double-speak for lying?
"There is so much backlash towards feminism these days because people just don't understand what it really entails."
No, people are waking up to what it really is, a dangerous wolf in sheep's clothing that's up to no good.
wereaux 1 week ago
@wereaux I'm just surprised that you have the nerve to call someone who has a college degree, who is studying this subject and obviously knows a lot of information about it, who only put up this video with the purpose to inform ignorant people like yourself a liar. "Wolf in sheep's clothing"? You make it sound like feminism is some sort of conspiracy theory. Show me one thing she says in this video that makes it seem like feminism would harm society.
Gypsygrl19 1 week ago
@Gypsygrl19 My comment was directed at you and your stupid statement. Feminism demonizes men and pushes laws on society that target men: VAWA, Rape Shield, Mandatory Arrest, etc... Now they are trying to destroy the concept of innocent until proven guilty, and have succeesed in doing so in some states. Feminism is a leftist ideology that is fundamentally anti-male at its core. The reason people hate feminism so much is because they're waking up to the truth.
wereaux 1 week ago
@wereaux DID YOU WATCH THE VIDEO?? HELLOOOO???
thememoirss 1 week ago
@thememoirss HELLO???
I watched part of it. I'm not gonna waste a whole ten minutes listening to brainless crap that I've already heard thousands of times.
HELLO?????
wereaux 1 week ago
@wereaux It's really funny that all of you anti-feminists make up your own mind about what feminism is rather than actually listening to feminists explain what they believe in. I don't know any feminists who are radical man haters, isn't that funny??
thememoirss 1 week ago in playlist Liked videos
@thememoirss It doesn't matter what you personally think feminism is. The ideology of feminism at its very core is leftist/socialist and hates men. It is a cult-like ideology full of dogma and paranoid delusions. The feminist movement has done terrible things and continues to do terrible things which harm society, and you are too stupid and ignorant to either see it or raise a finger to stop it.
So no, I don't give a shit what you think about it because you're a blind fool, a useful idiot.
wereaux 1 week ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@wereaux You know I'm starting to think you have some kind of mental illness or social disorder. That's really the only reason I can think of to explain someone who is so willfully stupid. I'd kind of like to meet you in person just so I can put the pieces together and see what kind of person you really are.
relmneiko 3 days ago
@Gypsygrl19 What it entails is flipping gender roles and making men feel like shit and useless with no role in society so they are flipping the bird at everything. Feminism is so destructive the results are being seen now and it will be even worse in the future. For white people anyways.
Bisquack 2 days ago
Thanks for providing an informed and eloquent voice of reason on this issue.
lawngnome100 2 weeks ago
@lawngnome100 Feminism reasonable? What a laugh!
wereaux 2 weeks ago
@wereaux I would love nothing more than to have a reasonable discussion about feminism and sexism in contemporary society. Coincidentally it seems like the anti-feminists are the ones who are angry and opposed to opening up a rational discourse. Cheers.
lawngnome100 2 weeks ago
@lawngnome100 The problem is that most feminists' idea of a "reasonable" discussion is one in which THEY talk and everyone blindly accepts whatever they have to say. And if a person objects to anything feminists say, they're merely defending the "Patriarchy". It's a one-sided affair.
But you're right, it's a waste of time because I've heard all the feminist arguments before, and you'll never convince me. It's not because I'm close-minded, it's because feminism is actually wrong.
wereaux 2 weeks ago
@wereaux It's unfortunate that you feel this way. I would be more than happy to engage in a dialogue with you about why you are so hostile toward the women's movement. I would actually be really interested to hear about your experiences so that I can better understand why so many people in general have such a heated reaction toward feminism.
lawngnome100 2 weeks ago
@wereaux
amen looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool
ILoveIslamInCanada 2 weeks ago
LOL you're funny! :D im glad to hear the truth on feminism. just ONE thing about your video that i noticed. you said a man is expected to be chivalric and bang lots of chicks.. aren't those opposites? jw :D <3
anteaterhands 2 weeks ago
i hav never understood how WOMEN could be against feminism. its like an italian saying "italianism is stupid!" ..but youre italian lol
personally i would like to see all 3 options in effect. it would clear up alot that our canadian education system seems to be misconstruding. its not all rainbows and butterflies after all.
anyways, u seem very bright, and i would love a response to kno wat u think
ScaryEskimo 2 weeks ago
3 put down all the petty groupings of minority 'isms' and simply unite under the banner of humanism. this eliminates all aforementioned problems at once, and even includes the people u mentioned who identify themselves outside the typical gender categories of 'male' and 'female' such as transgenered people, or people who were castrated and even hermaphrodites, all of which seem to get little to no considersation. they are few, but shouldn't be excluded bcuz of a technicality. -cont-
ScaryEskimo 2 weeks ago
of feminism which many critics see as an improper definition, and apply it to a word that more accurately describes those values say "genderism"?
2 change the commonly taught definition of feminism to more accurately represent the inherent meaning of the word and understand that FEMinism cannot include male rights as it would then cease to be FEMinism and become something else. saying feminism somehow includes male rights is like saying gingerism includes brunette rights, if u follow me. -cont-
ScaryEskimo 2 weeks ago
very good vid. i enjoyed it. however the word feminism inherently means that it focuses on female rights, not males. malism focuses on male rights and represents the other side of the spectrum.
this can however be argued by saying in achieving equal rights for females u achieve the goals of malism at the same and vis er vis. this is true, which means that difference is symantical, and neither word repsents anything unique. 3 possibilities then arise: 1 we can take your given definition -cont-
ScaryEskimo 2 weeks ago
@wereaux
I am not a lobbyist or politician, so I've no idea which specific "rabid dog" feminists you're referring to (although it's more likely you're continuing your thread of stereotyping). Regardless, I think the point being missed here is that modern feminism is not one thing. If one group of feminists does something that I (or the cause as a whole) do not agree with, this does not poison the entire movement.
Also, thanks for the offensive vitriol, but rabid bitch would have been more apt.
octoverpuss 2 weeks ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@octoverpuss "Regardless, I think the point being missed here is that modern feminism is not one thing. If one group of feminists does something that I (or the cause as a whole) do not agree with, this does not poison the entire movement."
You bet your ass it poisons the entire movement, especially because a) There is no need for feminism in western society, and b) The so-called "radicals" are running the movement. In World War 2 we didn't just fight the Nazis, we fought ALL of Germany.
wereaux 2 weeks ago
I dig this. And come on people! I understand defending your opinions but don't get pissed off when someone doesn't agree with you or if you can't change someones mind. When it comes to ideologies technically everyone thinks that they're right....and sadly they are to an extent. Soooo with that being said, Yay feminism! (maybe they should change the title though, this word is getting some serious backlash these days...)
Rivd0g 2 weeks ago
@AcidReflux27: First of all, I am not speaking for all feminists, but just for myself. But I am a feminist, and I do not think all gender roles are bad. I ascribe to them myself. I am a feminist, and I still wear makeup, and I love to cook. I love chivalry, because I think it is romantic. Equity is not the same thing as equality.
Psychubus 2 weeks ago
@wereaux: Actually, sex is determined by whether they are male or female. "Gender" is the term sociologists use to ascribe the social and psychological role that men and women play. For example, little boys are blessed in blue jeans, and girls in pink dresses. Boys are encouraged to play sports and play with trucks and girls are encouraged to dance and play dolls.
Believe it or not, your gender actually plays a role in the things you choose to like, what kind of clothes you wear, etc.
Psychubus 2 weeks ago
@Psychubus ""Gender" is the term sociologists use..."
Yes, I am well aware that feminists misappropriated the word "gender" back in the 1970's. Most people today still use it to denote biological sex.
"..to ascribe the social and psychological role that men and women play. For example, little boys are blessed in blue jeans, and girls in pink dresses."
This social constructivist nonsense is laughable for the most part, as there is more evidence for biological determinism.
wereaux 2 weeks ago
@wereaux: It is not just feminists, it is the entire field of sociologists and psychologists. And that term is actually the accurate one. You will not be able to be able to publish a study in sociology if you misappropriate the word "gender" for "sex."
The fact that women wear dresses, and men wear pants is not biologically determined. It is a choice. There is no DNA encoded for what you choose to wear.
Psychubus 2 weeks ago
@Psychubus "The fact that women wear dresses, and men wear pants is not biologically determined. It is a choice. There is no DNA encoded for what you choose to wear."
Gee, where did I say fashion sense was encoded in DNA? I thought we were talking about stuff like personality traits and relative temperament associated with masculine vs feminine, and the way males and females naturally differentiate and segregate themselves based on sex. Maybe you were talking about a sale at Macy's, who knows.
wereaux 2 weeks ago
@wereaux: Why would you think what you wear doesn't have to do with your gender? You don't wear skirts or heels because you're a man, thus what you wear is depicted by your gender.
Psychubus 2 weeks ago
@Psychubus "Why would you think what you wear doesn't have to do with your gender?"
You're lost in the weeds. Men and women have a built in tendency to outwardly differentiate themselves by sex through adornment. In an advanced society with modern textiles women wear low-cut blouses and tight miniskirts while men wear jeans and t-shirts. In a primitive society, women wear elaborate grass skirts and flowers while men wear animal skin on their groin. It's about attracting a mate, dummy.
wereaux 2 weeks ago
@wereaux: Many women in modern society wear jeans and pants, which seems to tell us that certain attributes are cultural. Even the example that you gave implies that these attributes are cultural, as they tend to change in history aligned with the comparative normative culture of the time.
Psychubus 2 weeks ago
@Psychubus Oh brother, you really don't get it, do you! The specific kinds of apparel women choose to wear is irrelevant (and BTW, the jeans they wear tend to accentuate the female body) except as it differentiates. The fact that some women dress a little more like men doesn't negate the general trend in sex-based behavior. An occasional deviation does not invalidate the rule. On average, men and women across all time and cultures differentiate themselves. That suggests it is biological.
wereaux 2 weeks ago
@wereaux: Actually that depends from culture to culture. In ancient Japan, male and female kimonos are practically identical with the bow size being the only difference. In Samoa, men and women rags made of leaves to cover their privates. These things are socially constructed.
Even chivalry is socially constructed. The concept of chivalry differs from country to country. Babies are not born with any biological concept of chivalry, it is learned and ingrained in us from an early age.
Psychubus 2 weeks ago
@Psychubus These things are socially constructed."
Remember what you stated earlier about burden of proof? Cough it up! I dare say you don't have a shred of valid scientific evidence to support these bogus claims.
wereaux 2 weeks ago
@wereaux: I sent you a link from NYU's department of metaphysical reality. Careful, there's a whole lot about existentialism and "big words" you might not understand in there. LOL
Psychubus 2 weeks ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@wereaux: I sent you a link from NYU's department of metaphysical reality. Careful, there's a whole lot about existentialism and "big words" you might not understand in there. LOL
Psychubus 2 weeks ago
@Psychubus
i always laugh when people complain about how things are 'socially constructed," when really, that just means that things are learned and those things are passed on. why the hell does that have to be a negative thing? did you ever stop to think that just because something is "socially constructed" does not mean it is an evil that needs to be destroyed, and may actually be a survival mechanism for our species. imagine, if with every generation, our kids forgot to teach their kids..
ILoveIslamInCanada 2 weeks ago
@Psychubus
...how to lift a fucking fork.
ILoveIslamInCanada 2 weeks ago
@Psychubus " It is not just feminists, it is the entire field of sociologists and psychologists."
Who cares? The social "sciences" (if you can call it science) are notoriously political. How many times has the DSM been revised due to the bickering and politics within the field?
wereaux 2 weeks ago
@wereaux: To my knowledge, I believe they are currently revising the DSM-V. In any case, the DSM-V has more to do with medical sciences rather than the social sciences.
Psychubus 2 weeks ago
@Psychubus: Also, of course it makes sense for them to constantly change the DSM. Society is constantly progressing and evolving, thus new diseases become born.
Psychubus 2 weeks ago
@Psychubus "DSM-V has more to do with medical sciences rather than the social sciences."
That's a laugh. The revised DSM-IV is full of psychological theories about personality and mental illness. It contains some limited medical references, but it definitely falls well within the realm of social science. It is a manual fraught with political wrangling, and serves as a warning for what happens when political correctness is allowed to impede scientific inquiry.
wereaux 2 weeks ago
@wereaux: The DSM-V is not just used for psychologists, it is used for the entire field of psychiatry and neurology which are divisions of the medical sciences. Of course the entire field of healthcare is fraught with political wrangling (Big Pharma, etc.) but this does not deduce from the factual aspect of the studies themselves.
In any case, you're making red herring arguments by distracting us from the original topic at hand. Not really sure how we got from feminism to the DSM.
Psychubus 2 weeks ago
@Psychubus "The DSM-V is not just used for psychologists, it is used for the entire field of psychiatry and neurology..."
I never said the DSM was utterly without value, I said it was fraught with politics.
"In any case, you're making red herring arguments by distracting us from the original topic at hand."
Damn, you make me laugh a lot! The original topic was that feminists are liars! LOL! You sure lose track of details easily, I mean, your red herring accusation is laughable.
wereaux 2 weeks ago
@wereaux: Have you ever even taken any course on feminism? Or have you simply taken all your perceptions on feminism from other mens' perception of what feminism is supposed to be?
Psychubus 2 weeks ago
@Psychubus "Have you ever even taken any course on feminism?"
I am proud to say I have never taken a Women's Studies (or Gender Studies) class. It's safe to say I never will. I consider those courses to be un-academic brainwashing for buffoons. Classes like that are mind-rotting garbage of the lowest form. Only people too stupid to pass college level math and science would willingly major in that worthless crap.
wereaux 2 weeks ago
@wereaux: So... you yourself have never studied any piece of feminism, and yet you peruse around criticizing it as if you have some sort of authority on it? You must be fully aware of a subject's contents to criticize or analyze it, and this applies for any subject. (Economics, music, biology) Otherwise you are not actually criticizing legitimate feminism, but rather, your personal interpretation of what you construe to be your vague idea of feminism is. Makes for plenty of strawmen.
Psychubus 2 weeks ago
@Psychubus I don't need to waste my valuable time and money taking those shitty classes to know feminism sucks. I never took Astrology or Palm reading classes either, and yet I know enough about it to know it's crap. Should a physics professor be required to take classes on flat earth theory in order to criticize the Flat Earth Society? Give me a break.
wereaux 2 weeks ago
@wereaux: So far, you've thought the following things about feminism:
-That they seek out to make the two sexes EQUAL, as opposed to having equal OPPORTUNITIES
-You confuse equity for equality
-You deduce the entire field of social constructivist psychology. Any intermediate biology class teaches that innate nature is both genetic and socially constructed. People have a will and make choices outside of their genetic composition.
Thus, I can infer you don't know what feminists teach.
Psychubus 2 weeks ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@Psychubus "That they seek out to make the two sexes EQUAL, as opposed to having equal OPPORTUNITIES"
There is a huge body of feminist thought that subscribes to the idea that men and women are exactly equal in every way except their genitalia. These are called "difference deniers" by some MRA's. This strange idea is popular enough within feminist circles that you should have heard of it somewhere along the line. Your ignorance of this belief suggests you know very little about feminism.
wereaux 2 weeks ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@Psychubus "That they seek out to make the two sexes EQUAL.."
Legal Dominance feminism, feminists who have infiltrated our legal system, are attempting to pass laws to try and artificially "equalize" every aspect of society and employment so that the ratio of men to women is 1. This means that if that there are only 10% women in the US Park service, then there will be a hiring freeze on male applicants until there are an equal number of females employed. Again, I'd say you're the ignorant one!
wereaux 2 weeks ago
@Psychubus "You confuse equity for equality"
That's hilarious! Nope, I am not confused by those terms at all. Feminists are often confused by the word "equality", since it is used all the time to describe the goal of feminism, because they mistakenly assume it means "equity".
Equal outcomes are the actual goal of modern feminism, and is contrary to the western liberal tradition of freedom, equal rights, and blind justice. This is a socialist version of equality, and it is in no way equitable.
wereaux 2 weeks ago
@wereaux: HA! You don't even know why you think socialism is bad, do you? Those corporate fat-cats aren't on your side, you know. You're probably one of those people who thinks socialism, communism, and Marxism is all the same thing. In fact, I'm willing to bet you're one of those people who's never even read a Karl Marx book!
Public education and access to police stations and library is technically "socialism," do you think these are bad things?
Psychubus 2 weeks ago
@Psychubus "HA! You don't even know why you think socialism is bad, do you?"
Way to put words in my mouth. The fact is, equality of outcome is an evil and repugnant socialist idea that was pushed by the Soviet Union. It is also a fact that modern feminism pushes for equal outcomes in the context of gender, which is also an evil and repugnant idea.
I will not get into an argument about communism/socialism vs capitalism. But modern feminism was heavily influenced by marxism and socialism.
wereaux 2 weeks ago
@wereaux: Funny you mention the Soviet Union. Actually there has never been a truly socialist government, as there has always been somebody at the top hoarding in the wealth while impoverishing others. People also often confuse the DPRK for being socialist, when in reality they are a totalitarian dictatorship. A better example of socialism would be hippie communes or the Amish. Everybody does their own piece of work. Everybody gets to eat that night.
Psychubus 2 weeks ago
@wereaux: I am actually a huge fan of Karl Marx. I find that, much in the same way that you are critical of feminism, most people who are critical of Marx have never read any of his works. In actuality, if you read Marx and his alienated labor theory, he describes the way working constantly in pursuit of a meaningless commodity alienates you from yourself, your love life, your spirituality, and from humanity. Even capitalists agree with this statement.
Psychubus 2 weeks ago
@Psychubus You idiot, I told you I will not discuss this topic, not here.
wereaux 2 weeks ago
@wereaux: Then I willingly refrain from commenting further on this topic.
Psychubus 2 weeks ago
@Psychubus Karl Marx's ideas caused the deaths of millions of people. Folks like you who defend Marx need to just crawl into a sewer and live there forever.
Albacorewing 2 weeks ago
@Albacorewing Have you ever even read Karl Marx? Because people who are the most critical of Marx are typically the ones who have never even read any of his works. You probably don't even know the difference between Marxism, socialism, and communism.
Psychubus 2 weeks ago
Comment removed
Psychubus 2 weeks ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@wereaux: And if you actually read Marx’s labor theory of value, he is advocating more of an egalitarian wage system, as opposed to total socialism or communism. One in which the workers get a share of the company that they all invest their time and their life in. The option for retirement benefits as opposed to 401K's, and things of that nature.
Psychubus 2 weeks ago
@Psychubus "You deduce [sic] the entire field of social constructivist psychology."
Yeah, I deduced it was fatally flawed. Sure, there are certain things which could be said to be "social constructs", like money and citizenship. But when feminists try to claim that gender is socially constructed, they're stark raving mad!
"Any intermediate biology class teaches that innate nature is both genetic and socially constructed."
Not exactly. They teach that biology and environment both play a role.
wereaux 2 weeks ago
@wereaux: "They teach that biology and environment both play a role." Do you understand what that means? Biology = genetics, environment is another word for social construction.
It's not just feminists who claim that gender is socially constructed. Men such as Michel Foucault and Jean Paul Sartre say the exact same thing. As a matter of fact according to men such as Foucault and Nietzsche, they say EVERYTHING is socially constructed, not just gender.
Psychubus 2 weeks ago
@Psychubus "Do you understand what that means? Biology = genetics, environment is another word for social construction."
LOL! Environment includes lots of things, like chemicals in the food or drinking water, weather, psychological or physical trauma, just to name a few.
"It's not just feminists who claim that gender is socially constructed. Men such as Michel Foucault and Jean Paul Sartre say the exact same thing."
Who cares? Those dudes are examples of fools who got lost in their own minds
wereaux 2 weeks ago
@wereaux: And... what on earth do you think psychological trauma falls under? That completely falls under social construction. All the soldiers who come back with PTSD weren't born with this gene.
Psychubus 2 weeks ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@Psychubus "And... what on earth do you think psychological trauma falls under?"
If your mother went insane and tried to drown you when you were 7 yrs old, that would be psychologically traumatic. How you react to it is genetic.
"That completely falls under social construction."
Bullshit. You're an idiot.
" All the soldiers who come back with PTSD weren't born with this gene."
You are in no position to make such a claim. PTSD could very well be genetic, and probably is.
wereaux 2 weeks ago
@wereaux: books dot google dot com/books?id=yzQC9B-jCVQC&printsec=frontcover#v=onepage&q&f=false
That link is a Judith Butler book on the mimesis and performative nature of gender. Butler, as you may or may not know, is the leading authority on not just feminist theory, but queer theory and existentialist theory. She is right up there with Foucault, Nietzsche, Simone de Beauvoire, etc.
You asked me to cite my sources, there's another one of my sources.
Psychubus 2 weeks ago
@Psychubus "That link is a Judith Butler book on the mimesis and performative nature of gender."
Her ideas and her work are essentially worthless and without any scientific merit. I dismiss her ideas like I dismiss Astrology. It's all nonsense and fairytales.
Next.
wereaux 2 weeks ago
@wereaux: It does not follow from the fact that identification shapes action, shapes life plans, that the identification itself must be thought of as voluntary. I don't recall ever choosing to identify as male; but being male has shaped many of my plans and actions." -Anthony Appiah
Thus, to say that only feminists believe in social construction is a completely ludicrous statement that fails to take into account male psychologists and existentialists of this world.
Psychubus 2 weeks ago
@Psychubus "Thus, to say that only feminists believe in social construction is a completely ludicrous statement that fails to take into account male psychologists and existentialists of this world."
Boy you really like to put words in my mouth huh! You gonna keep making a big deal about something I never said? Or are you going to start being reasonable and stop going off on tangents?
wereaux 2 weeks ago
@wereaux: So, then, why are you constantly blaming feminists for something that a huge percentage of the population believes in? I'm going based off quotes such as:
"Yes, I am well aware that feminists misappropriated the word "gender""
"But when feminists try to claim that gender is socially constructed, they're stark raving mad!"
Psychubus 2 weeks ago
@Psychubus "why are you constantly blaming feminists for something that a huge percentage of the population believes in?"
Really, an argumentum ad populum? Are we really gonna go there? I don't give a flying shit what a majority of people believe.
wereaux 2 weeks ago
@wereaux: I never said it's true simply because a lot of people believe in it. I'm asking you why you are SELECTIVELY blaming a group for condoning something that a whole hoard of other people believe in.
Psychubus 2 weeks ago
@Psychubus Ideas about gender and the social construction of gender are not something that "a huge percentage of the population believes in". We are discussing feminism here, not sociology. Feminists are trying to force these ideas into our society and our legal system. I don't care for sociologists either but they are not pushing the issue as hard. I have the right to oppose anything which I feel is factually incorrect or morally repugnant, no matter who's trying to sell it.
wereaux 2 weeks ago
Comment removed
Psychubus 2 weeks ago
Comment removed
Psychubus 2 weeks ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@wereaux: Wow, really? So then, how surprising is it that JSTOR, one of the most solid sources for medical studies, even cites existentialists such as Michele Foucault as evidence for social construction? See link here: jstor dot org/pss/378628
I also find it highly amusing that you don't follow scholars with published studies, but you follow ridiculous Youtube links to reinforce your beliefs. Just goes to show the world is truly becoming illiterate and uneducated.
Psychubus 2 weeks ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@Psychubus "how surprising is it that JSTOR, one of the most solid sources for medical studies, even cites existentialists such as Michele Foucault as evidence for social construction?"
WTF? Say what? Are you talking about the online database for storing journal articles? Dude, you're either trying to pull the wool over my eyes with some bullshit or you're clueless.
wereaux 2 weeks ago
@wereaux: (cont. from 2nd message) Look, I go around criticizing Milton Friedman's works frequently, but I feel that I have enough knowledge to make such deductions, as I have read his books, and studied economic theory extensively. Maybe not as extensively as Friedman has, but enough to say that his concept of Laissez-Faire trickle-down theory is ineffective. If I were to critique Friedman without having read even 1 of his books, I'd be an idiot who doesn't even know Friedman's points.
Psychubus 2 weeks ago
@wereaux: Also simply because you say my accusation is laughable doesn't make it so, that simply makes for lazy debating.
Psychubus 2 weeks ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@Psychubus "Also simply because you say my accusation is laughable doesn't make it so, that simply makes for lazy debating."
Not if it should be obvious. It is laughable because I only mentioned the DSM as an example of how politicised the field of psychology, and social sciences in general, have become. I brought it up in response to you telling me that psychologists believe that gender is socially constructed. You're the one who took off on a tangent.
wereaux 2 weeks ago
@TMac473: You men just want everything, don't you. "IF FEMINISM DOESN'T CATER TO MEN, IT MUST BE WRONG!!!"
Psychubus 2 weeks ago
@Psychubus Your scary quote comment "IF FEMINISM DOESN'T CATER TO MEN, IT MUST BE WRONG!!!" is incorrect. My correction would be "IF FEMINISM DOESN'T CATER TO ALL OF SOCIETY IT IS WRONG." Feminism is about solving human problems by concentrating on women's problems. Lets solve math equations with only integers and see how well it goes. You must respect men as human beings if you expect it to work at all. I don't expect to convert you to this radical idea that a solid ideology would defend all.
TMac473 2 weeks ago
@TMac473: You're making strawman arguments. I'd like you to name me one feminist scholar who has ever represented any disdain or disrespect for men in her works.
Of course feminism's core is about tackling issues that primarily affect women. That's the whole point, is they focus on fields that affect women (though branches of feminism have expanded to homosexuals, minorities, and underprivileged men). You wouldn't ask the black community to cater to or represent the white community.
Psychubus 2 weeks ago
@Psychubus "I'd like you to name me one feminist scholar who has ever represented any disdain or disrespect for men in her works." HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHA Hilarious. You must be blind as a bat and as literate as a door. Simply: 3w. youtube .com/user/girlwriteswhat?feature=g-all-c#p/a/u/1/AQWoNhrY_fM That was good for a laugh though.... What kind of paint fumes are you on?
TMac473 2 weeks ago
@TMac473: So, random girl who posts on Youtube is representative of the entire feminist community? You're utterly laughable if you eat this shit up, and I asked you to mention a feminist SCHOLAR. You know, somebody like Judith Butler, Winnifred Woodhull, Catherine McKinnon, etc. etc.
Psychubus 2 weeks ago
@Psychubus "I asked you to mention a feminist SCHOLAR [who dislikes men]. You know, somebody like Judith Butler, Winnifred Woodhull, Catherine McKinnon, etc. etc."
LOL! Catherine McKinnon is the queen manhater!
wereaux 2 weeks ago
Comment removed
Psychubus 2 weeks ago
Comment removed
Psychubus 2 weeks ago
Comment removed
Psychubus 2 weeks ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@TMac473: You must be as literate as a door if you actually post a FUCKING YOUTUBE LINK as evidence, as opposed to an actual published academic study, or a scholarly article or book that actually represents the field and study of feminism. I doubt you would be smart enough to even understand Judith Butler's works.
Psychubus 2 weeks ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@Psychubus "You must be as literate as a door if you actually post a FUCKING YOUTUBE LINK as evidence, as opposed to an actual published academic study, or a scholarly article or book that actually represents the field and study of feminism."
It's funny how feminists try to act like this is a formal Oxford style debate and demand strict standards from their opponents, or how they'll only accept an academic paper with footnotes from a Women's Studies department. What a joke! This is Youtube!
wereaux 2 weeks ago
@TMac473: Youtube links are unverifiable, because: a) This woman does not provide sources. b) This is propaganda, because she is selective-reading and taking minor snippets of quotes out of entire books and articles, and taking them out of context. I know this, because I have actually read most of these articles she is reading, and that is NOT AT ALL what they are literally saying.
Psychubus 2 weeks ago
@Psychubus Sure thing Succubus. Any coincidence between your name and you defending feminism? Succubus.. a 'succubus' (plural succubi; from Latin succubare, "to lie under") is a female demon which comes to men, especially monks, in their dreams to seduce them and have sexual intercourse with them, drawing energy from the men to sustain themselves, often until the point of exhaustion or death. Sounds like you through and through. You and others can hate on GWW... All feminists are like that!
TMac473 2 weeks ago
@TMac473: Nope. Actually my name is a double entendre. "Psychubus," as in "Succubus of the psyche," as in I will blow your mind away. Has nothing to do with sexuality, at least not in a negative way.
Psychubus 2 weeks ago
This has been flagged as spam