@BurninRubba305 You don't forfeit any amendment rights. Thats just a gunshop myth. If not, show me where on the form 4 or any law that states this. No one has ever called me, or shown up at the door wanting to see anything for no reason. If they do, without a warrant, you would be stupid to let that person in. Could be a thug coming to steal your stuff in the name of the law...and you probably would let them take it if their hat sez 'ATF' and their shirt sez Sheriff.
I think the forfeiting rights thing is a misinterpretation for if you want to MAKE machine guns and stuff like that, in which case the only place that can be searched without warrant is the location of where the guns are being made. It's similar to restaurants being inspected, or any other business for that matter. Owning grenade launchers, machine guns, etc. as you have stated do NOT make you sacrifice rights.
@inverseactuality Probably so. I just wish that people wouldn't listen to that gun shop "expert" and/or make up stories like this that trick the all-unknowing masses into thinking they are somehow illegal to own. Its so funny when they stutter all over themselves when you ask them how they "know" if they do not even own one.
It's sad how uneducated people are with gun rights. When I was 12 or so (I'm currently 15) I thought that an AK-47 would be illegal, even in semi-automatic due to the taboo that the media makes guns out to be. After figuring out that was totally wrong (luckily I'm not in CA) , I looked into the laws and now I know that pretty much the only completely illegal weapons are nukes. I may not own NFA weapons, but with a little research it's obvious that they're legal.
@inverseactuality yes i've seen even 40mm grenade launchers out for sale to civilians...now they cost about the same as a brand new mercedes but they are out there none the less, and i dont even want to begin thinking about how expensive the ammo would be..
Actually you can get LMT M203 launchers for about 2 grand. I'm not sure about stand alone launchers, I think they cost more though. I'm pretty sure explosive and otherwise offensive ammo (ie pellets, regardless of material) are pretty damn expensive though because of the $200 tax per round, but smoke and chalk rounds don't carry that tax as far as I know.
@inverseactuality those are 37 mm grenade launchers only capable of firing smoke and flares. only 40mm can fire explosive etc. my local gun store has ''grenade launchers'' , but they are only 37mm...i look online at class 3 weapons and i see 40 mm grenade launchers for tens of thousands...and theyre all pretty old.
The one I'm looking at online now is 40mm. The LMTs are much more common than the colt M203s, I hear the colt ones go for much more. Also on the link I'll provide, some of them rather than having add to cart are NFA restricted and cost $1800. 37mm isn't restricted when unmodified. lewismachine (dot) net/store (dot) php?cid=10
@MrStrontipis It makes the gun longer, which can hinder movement. As most pistols are recoil-operated, the silencer has to move with the barrel, which increases the barrel mass, which can hinder cycling without some sort of booster.
@MrStrontipis flash suppressors are very short relative to silencers. A flash suppressor protrudes 1 to 2 inches from the barrel, while silencers protrude around 6 inches.
igual que esta pero no tengo cargador me lo podras conseguir?? o dime como lo consigo o en donde por fa o cualquier persona que vea esta public. que me diga en donde lo puedo conseguir gracias.....
in my opinion...cobrey licks ass and masterpiece arms macs are better,the mac... its basically a cool looking pistol and can be used for home defense if maintained properly,its nothing special,but does shoot 9mm in 30 round mags and is affordable,and a sign of the times...the 80's baby,miami vice. the a-team ect.. a collectors item and a last ditch effort hand gun before i reach for my 1911... stop hating.
gunman848, if you put a file on it you are in possesion of an illegal machine gun.
if you put your left thumb behind the trigger of a semi open bolt mac you are legally shooting a semi at 6oo rds per minute. just the way they were made. any machine
work or filing is illegal. the hellfire sort of works and is legal because it only clamps to the trigger guard.
@FSUscar don't know about more powerful, but definitely more reliable. Having shot friend's M.A.C.'s in full auto before, they tend to be still high inaccurate too
@vieboiracer Full Auto MACS are open bolt, but then again so are some semi auto MACS as well. Manufactured before 1982 R.P.B. Industries made some until the B.A.T.F. decided that they were too easy to convert to full auto. You can still buy a semi auto open bolt, but they are much more pricey. The ones that exist were grandfathered in.
Aren't they fun?? I have one, used to have 2 of them, but then I traded the other toward the submachine gun before I realized that it was going to be too much paperwork and opted out of buying it
haha kel tec. if someone breaks into your home and you pull the Kel Tec, I promise you'll never have to defend yourself a gain. Get a Browning Hi Power or an FN .45ACP
The MAC was designed to be a CIA covert ops / assasination weapon over 35 years ago. It's only advantage being it's revolutionary small size for a machine gun and extreme high fire rate, which made it able to be concealed and to clear a room of opponents in one burst. It's a short duration fire hose. It is not a combat or field weapon, it is a one-use spec ops weapon. making it semi-auto is like putting a propeller engine on a jet fighter then complaining about it. Go buy a jet.
@Ianwrym I agree wiith the first part some of what your saying is true but dont knock a firearm just cause its not full auto who cares its a awesome gun which i just bought =] plus i live in texas which makes it easy to convert it to full auto" think of it like this would you really want every firearm thats meant to be full auto fully auto so that some dumb fucks out there that dont know how to manage recoil the right way shooting stuff up! just saying no harm intended
This gun has a horrible design. The c-clip retainer fell off and the gun fell apart. I havent shot the thing in over a year because i cant find the right size c-clip. i dont want to pay 3.00 euros for one online. worst gun i bought
I bought it just to add some variety to the collection. I couldn't pass up the deal: The gun, 5 mags, and a pelican case with the foam custom cut to hold everything for $400.00 The pelican case alone sells for $130.00
It is by no means a primary weapon for self defense or reliability. It got about 1000 rounds through it before the firing pin mushroomed and needed to be replaced. At least parts are cheap. The firing pin was $6.00
@TheJomogogo why are you hating so much? i dont think anyone asked how you felt about the m11/9.. m11/9's are definitly not for gun snobs...they cost less than $400..
No you do not, you can not legaly own guns until your atleast and adult. Your parents may have guns, yes just like mine but you cannot get a legal license for them and etc...get your facts straight
did you know that in the state of california, that you are legally allowed to purchase a rifle or shotgun for you mother or father while still a minor, but are not allowed to own it yourself? crazy huh
you can legaly purchase rifles and shotguns at the age of 18 in the USA. parents could gift guns to there kids under the age of 18. the legal age to purchase a handgun is 21
There are a couple "ball profile" expanding round out now that you could try. One is called "DRT" ammo and is a 124 gr. 9mm Luger load. it fragments when it hits but is designed not to do so unless it hits tissue.
Then there is the EFMJ Federal (Expanding Full Metal jacket.) Ball profile, with scored jacket and rubber expander over lead.
Third one is the Cor-Bob "Pow-R-Ball" with a polymer ball over a hollw point to ease feeding.
Also adds a little weight and something to grip to help resist muzzle climb. I like the sweet slotted shrouds they have floating around.
IMO, it's a fun pistol-caliber carbine, especially with the collapsible or quick-removable stocks, flash suppressor and foregrip. Though some can be picky with SD ammo, while others eat up anything you feed it.
@callujah Also suppressors don't suppress as much as in the movies the suppress a 9mm at 190 decibles give or take to about 150 decibles, so basically it makes the 9mm sound like a .22.
Is the fake supressor/barrel extension permanently attached or is it threaded on? If you thread it on, do you need to put loctite thread locker or anything like that on it?
Its an awkward gun to shoot for any length of time. It will only shoot cheap solid slug ammo though. Any somewhat expensive hollow point ammo hangs up on the lip the barrel has where there is a gap between the ramp and the barrel.
I have a new upper receiver with a scope rail on it, and the cocking lever on the left side. I am also looking into a new upper receiver with scope rail and the 16" barrel to make it into a small carbine 9mm rifle. I just have to add the wire stock to it then.
i welded a rail on mine way better look at my vid
svt283 1 month ago
nice
take a look at my vid tell me what you think
svt283 2 months ago
then take it off and get a better looking actual Flash supressor
crustyjack007 4 months ago
@BurninRubba305 You don't forfeit any amendment rights. Thats just a gunshop myth. If not, show me where on the form 4 or any law that states this. No one has ever called me, or shown up at the door wanting to see anything for no reason. If they do, without a warrant, you would be stupid to let that person in. Could be a thug coming to steal your stuff in the name of the law...and you probably would let them take it if their hat sez 'ATF' and their shirt sez Sheriff.
UpcomingJedi 6 months ago
@UpcomingJedi
I think the forfeiting rights thing is a misinterpretation for if you want to MAKE machine guns and stuff like that, in which case the only place that can be searched without warrant is the location of where the guns are being made. It's similar to restaurants being inspected, or any other business for that matter. Owning grenade launchers, machine guns, etc. as you have stated do NOT make you sacrifice rights.
inverseactuality 5 months ago
@inverseactuality Probably so. I just wish that people wouldn't listen to that gun shop "expert" and/or make up stories like this that trick the all-unknowing masses into thinking they are somehow illegal to own. Its so funny when they stutter all over themselves when you ask them how they "know" if they do not even own one.
UpcomingJedi 5 months ago
@UpcomingJedi
It's sad how uneducated people are with gun rights. When I was 12 or so (I'm currently 15) I thought that an AK-47 would be illegal, even in semi-automatic due to the taboo that the media makes guns out to be. After figuring out that was totally wrong (luckily I'm not in CA) , I looked into the laws and now I know that pretty much the only completely illegal weapons are nukes. I may not own NFA weapons, but with a little research it's obvious that they're legal.
inverseactuality 5 months ago 3
@inverseactuality yes i've seen even 40mm grenade launchers out for sale to civilians...now they cost about the same as a brand new mercedes but they are out there none the less, and i dont even want to begin thinking about how expensive the ammo would be..
DaBlindKungFuMastuh 1 month ago
@DaBlindKungFuMastuh
Actually you can get LMT M203 launchers for about 2 grand. I'm not sure about stand alone launchers, I think they cost more though. I'm pretty sure explosive and otherwise offensive ammo (ie pellets, regardless of material) are pretty damn expensive though because of the $200 tax per round, but smoke and chalk rounds don't carry that tax as far as I know.
inverseactuality 1 month ago
@inverseactuality those are 37 mm grenade launchers only capable of firing smoke and flares. only 40mm can fire explosive etc. my local gun store has ''grenade launchers'' , but they are only 37mm...i look online at class 3 weapons and i see 40 mm grenade launchers for tens of thousands...and theyre all pretty old.
DaBlindKungFuMastuh 1 month ago
@DaBlindKungFuMastuh
The one I'm looking at online now is 40mm. The LMTs are much more common than the colt M203s, I hear the colt ones go for much more. Also on the link I'll provide, some of them rather than having add to cart are NFA restricted and cost $1800. 37mm isn't restricted when unmodified. lewismachine (dot) net/store (dot) php?cid=10
inverseactuality 4 weeks ago
Thumbs if Once Upon a Time in Mexico brought you here
Wanderer2266 6 months ago
@BurninRubba305 thanks
MrStrontipis 8 months ago
what is the negative side of a silencer, is see lots of flash supressors but very little silincers
MrStrontipis 9 months ago
@MrStrontipis It makes the gun longer, which can hinder movement. As most pistols are recoil-operated, the silencer has to move with the barrel, which increases the barrel mass, which can hinder cycling without some sort of booster.
csmybuttt 9 months ago
@csmybuttt isn't that the same with a flash supressor?
MrStrontipis 9 months ago
@MrStrontipis flash suppressors are very short relative to silencers. A flash suppressor protrudes 1 to 2 inches from the barrel, while silencers protrude around 6 inches.
csmybuttt 9 months ago
@csmybuttt alright thanks, i learned again :D
MrStrontipis 9 months ago
@px213 oye quiero pedirte un favor
yo tengo una uzi
igual que esta pero no tengo cargador me lo podras conseguir?? o dime como lo consigo o en donde por fa o cualquier persona que vea esta public. que me diga en donde lo puedo conseguir gracias.....
mujiganga1 11 months ago
@px213 oye quiero pedirte un favor
yo tengo una uzi
igual que esta pero no tengo cargador me lo podras conseguir?? o dime como lo consigo o en donde por fa
mujiganga1 11 months ago
in my opinion...cobrey licks ass and masterpiece arms macs are better,the mac... its basically a cool looking pistol and can be used for home defense if maintained properly,its nothing special,but does shoot 9mm in 30 round mags and is affordable,and a sign of the times...the 80's baby,miami vice. the a-team ect.. a collectors item and a last ditch effort hand gun before i reach for my 1911... stop hating.
RAIZEDBYWOLVEZ 11 months ago
The real one sounds more manly, than the one on black ops.
13rugrat 1 year ago
gunman848, if you put a file on it you are in possesion of an illegal machine gun.
if you put your left thumb behind the trigger of a semi open bolt mac you are legally shooting a semi at 6oo rds per minute. just the way they were made. any machine
work or filing is illegal. the hellfire sort of works and is legal because it only clamps to the trigger guard.
Davidautofull 1 year ago
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MAAANVE 1 year ago
For a weapon that is not the most reliable, it is fairly easy to group the shots relatively well. I have been pleasantly surprized in that respect.
erkoekrf 1 year ago
how about using 2 of them, full auto, Max Payne style?
ScarletSnake 1 year ago
@ScarletSnake definitely gotta agree with you there man. Would be incredibly cool!
erkoekrf 1 year ago
file down the little ramp under the bolt carrier that stops the cycle rate to semi auto, then hold the gun real tight.
gunman848 1 year ago
@gunman848 LOL
Kylef7735 1 year ago
Yeah, these guns tend to be lighter than the R.P.B. of full auto versions. I think that is because they just aren't made as well.
erkoekrf 1 year ago
I have a Cobray 9mm and a Smith and Weson 9mm, and my smith is a much more reliable and powerfull weapon.
FSUscar 1 year ago
@FSUscar don't know about more powerful, but definitely more reliable. Having shot friend's M.A.C.'s in full auto before, they tend to be still high inaccurate too
erkoekrf 1 year ago
Wait, do they really come and do a check up? I tossed mine in the trash after I shoot them too pieces.
haxforcandy 1 year ago
@vieboiracer Full Auto MACS are open bolt, but then again so are some semi auto MACS as well. Manufactured before 1982 R.P.B. Industries made some until the B.A.T.F. decided that they were too easy to convert to full auto. You can still buy a semi auto open bolt, but they are much more pricey. The ones that exist were grandfathered in.
erkoekrf 1 year ago
Wow, I bought one around "94" and only had it for alittle over a year before selling it.
Can't remember what I paid for it new.
momuffin 1 year ago
Hay that's a mac 10
celtik916 1 year ago
@celtik916 Hay no it isn't.
1kperday 1 year ago
@celtik916 it actually would be closer to the MAC 11.
erkoekrf 1 year ago
man that thing looks like a pos
cpuneronet 1 year ago
Aren't they fun?? I have one, used to have 2 of them, but then I traded the other toward the submachine gun before I realized that it was going to be too much paperwork and opted out of buying it
erkoekrf 1 year ago
cobray or masterpice arms?
saj12100 2 years ago
guns arnt really toys but ok...
goodgod09 2 years ago
Is that a fake can??
YOWHATTHEHELLUP71 2 years ago
Kinda like mine, I use it for stress relief, though, I have a Kel-tec and a Mossberg for home and personal defense.
Siconyte 2 years ago
haha kel tec. if someone breaks into your home and you pull the Kel Tec, I promise you'll never have to defend yourself a gain. Get a Browning Hi Power or an FN .45ACP
grinchyface 2 years ago
The MAC was designed to be a CIA covert ops / assasination weapon over 35 years ago. It's only advantage being it's revolutionary small size for a machine gun and extreme high fire rate, which made it able to be concealed and to clear a room of opponents in one burst. It's a short duration fire hose. It is not a combat or field weapon, it is a one-use spec ops weapon. making it semi-auto is like putting a propeller engine on a jet fighter then complaining about it. Go buy a jet.
Ianwrym 2 years ago 9
@Ianwrym I agree wiith the first part some of what your saying is true but dont knock a firearm just cause its not full auto who cares its a awesome gun which i just bought =] plus i live in texas which makes it easy to convert it to full auto" think of it like this would you really want every firearm thats meant to be full auto fully auto so that some dumb fucks out there that dont know how to manage recoil the right way shooting stuff up! just saying no harm intended
404040c 11 months ago
This gun has a horrible design. The c-clip retainer fell off and the gun fell apart. I havent shot the thing in over a year because i cant find the right size c-clip. i dont want to pay 3.00 euros for one online. worst gun i bought
mattnelson123456 2 years ago
have you bumpfired that badboy,thats what makes macs fun to play with
noplcl310 2 years ago
Oh boy a big clumsy gigantic 9mm auto . Like a dream come true.
Think I'll stick with a hi-cap 9mm pistol that's a third the size of that monstrosity.
TheJomogogo 2 years ago
ROTFLMAO
triggerfingas 2 years ago
Yeah I hate these things and the people that buy them and think they really got something. What they got is a piece of shit.
TheJomogogo 2 years ago
I bought it just to add some variety to the collection. I couldn't pass up the deal: The gun, 5 mags, and a pelican case with the foam custom cut to hold everything for $400.00 The pelican case alone sells for $130.00
It is by no means a primary weapon for self defense or reliability. It got about 1000 rounds through it before the firing pin mushroomed and needed to be replaced. At least parts are cheap. The firing pin was $6.00
PX213 2 years ago
yeah..it a collectors item i guess if ya grew up in the 80s like i did.
RAIZEDBYWOLVEZ 2 years ago
@PX213 wow $400, amazing.....i live in canada and im not too sure but that gun would probably sell for 3000$ here
arvin1210 1 year ago
@PX213 man that thing sure tosses brass..
mario15054092023 1 year ago
@PX213 damn. where you get all that for 400 dollars?
ryanvertz20 1 year ago
@TheJomogogo why are you hating so much? i dont think anyone asked how you felt about the m11/9.. m11/9's are definitly not for gun snobs...they cost less than $400..
ticktock422 1 year ago
i feel yeah. Plus i would never buy a gun with a fake suppresor in my life!
BrianMichael2000 2 years ago
oh sworry\
zachioki 2 years ago
that is a fake ass scilencer
zachioki 2 years ago
its a compensator, not a suppressor.
djdaggerdetroit 2 years ago
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TheJomogogo 2 years ago
no shit
lynette1953 2 years ago
sounds like fake suppressor..which they sell
aSuperbadassninja 2 years ago
lol the silencer was not so silence
bermudaterror 2 years ago
Guns aren't toys, :D . Description: "Playing with the new toy."
UnknownAccount0 3 years ago
stfu its not your video
83scarface 3 years ago
How do you know? :O
UnknownAccount0 3 years ago
because you are a dumbass
83scarface 3 years ago
Yeah your real mature "Scarface"
Kevin32001 2 years ago
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83scarface 2 years ago
Haha what? Learn proper grammar....
Kevin32001 2 years ago
buy real guns lol
83scarface 2 years ago
I would if i am old enough lol im only 15 =/
Kevin32001 2 years ago
oh.. im 13 and i own 6 guns
83scarface 2 years ago
No you do not, you can not legaly own guns until your atleast and adult. Your parents may have guns, yes just like mine but you cannot get a legal license for them and etc...get your facts straight
Kevin32001 2 years ago
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83scarface 2 years ago
ur an idiot
Steelersrok102 2 years ago
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83scarface 2 years ago
did you know that in the state of california, that you are legally allowed to purchase a rifle or shotgun for you mother or father while still a minor, but are not allowed to own it yourself? crazy huh
LeekyChicken 2 years ago
I just said you cannot own a gun lol i didnt say purchase.
Kevin32001 2 years ago
i wasnt saying it to be a douche or anything. just a factoid fun fact thing
LeekyChicken 2 years ago
Never said you were being a douche, dont make assumptions, and "factoid fun fact thing" lol
Kevin32001 2 years ago
: )
LeekyChicken 2 years ago
are you serious? what about georgia? you got me excited now lol
montecarlomayne 2 years ago
how do they know its for your mother or father?
2pacalypse25 2 years ago
you can legaly purchase rifles and shotguns at the age of 18 in the USA. parents could gift guns to there kids under the age of 18. the legal age to purchase a handgun is 21
alamont69 2 years ago
lol
phellina 2 years ago
There are a couple "ball profile" expanding round out now that you could try. One is called "DRT" ammo and is a 124 gr. 9mm Luger load. it fragments when it hits but is designed not to do so unless it hits tissue.
Then there is the EFMJ Federal (Expanding Full Metal jacket.) Ball profile, with scored jacket and rubber expander over lead.
Third one is the Cor-Bob "Pow-R-Ball" with a polymer ball over a hollw point to ease feeding.
DEP717 3 years ago
Cor-Bob = Cor-Bon, even. Sorry.
P.S. beautiful piece.
DEP717 3 years ago
Bump firing it would be retarded and pointless.
88blockNS 3 years ago
fawwk doesnt sounds silenced
callujah 3 years ago
Once again, its just flash suppressor, not s silencer.
PX213 3 years ago 16
What's the point of having one?
UnknownAccount0 3 years ago
Also adds a little weight and something to grip to help resist muzzle climb. I like the sweet slotted shrouds they have floating around.
IMO, it's a fun pistol-caliber carbine, especially with the collapsible or quick-removable stocks, flash suppressor and foregrip. Though some can be picky with SD ammo, while others eat up anything you feed it.
ShinaMMA 3 years ago
@PX213 It's not even a flash suppressor, which it clearly doesn't. It's a mock suppressor. MSRP. $29.99
PowerViolenceForever 11 months ago
@PX213 Once again its called a Suppressor a device attached to or part of the barrel of a firearm which reduces the amount of noise and flash
Bjo15 10 months ago
@PX213 It's not even that. It's just a barrel extension. Has no purpose at all except for bump firing. Same as the MPA30.
cabo02 9 months ago
@callujah We have a flash suppressor for our M11. It is not made to silence the gun.
redprojet 1 year ago
@callujah i still see flashes..
XDeathRaze777X 9 months ago
@callujah Also suppressors don't suppress as much as in the movies the suppress a 9mm at 190 decibles give or take to about 150 decibles, so basically it makes the 9mm sound like a .22.
MenyaZavutDima 7 months ago
are corbay mac 11 open bolt or closed bolt?
vietboiracer 3 years ago 2
fully auto: open bolt
semi auto: closed bolt
PX213 3 years ago 3
@PX213 not all true. RPB has an open bolt semi.
erkoekrf 1 year ago
@PX213 Full Auto: Open Bolt with folding stock Semi Auto: Open or closed Bolt with no stock
erkoekrf 1 year ago
Is the fake supressor/barrel extension permanently attached or is it threaded on? If you thread it on, do you need to put loctite thread locker or anything like that on it?
boiseshooterz 3 years ago
you ever teyed bump fire
dipshitbaker 3 years ago
bump fire it! the cobrays really rip with a nice bump fire!
voivod206 3 years ago
Its an awkward gun to shoot for any length of time. It will only shoot cheap solid slug ammo though. Any somewhat expensive hollow point ammo hangs up on the lip the barrel has where there is a gap between the ramp and the barrel.
I have a new upper receiver with a scope rail on it, and the cocking lever on the left side. I am also looking into a new upper receiver with scope rail and the 16" barrel to make it into a small carbine 9mm rifle. I just have to add the wire stock to it then.
PX213 3 years ago
That's odd. My Cobray M11 handles ammo like Remington Hollow Points extremely well!
erkoekrf 3 years ago
I saw one of these at the local gunshop and have been thinking about getting it. Do you hate the sights and the awkward pistol grip?
kza7 3 years ago
you dont need a class III just a $200 tax stamp if you live in a silencer legal state.
haxforcandy 3 years ago 9
@haxforcandy yes, but you open yourself up to random "spot checks" by A.T.F.
erkoekrf 1 year ago
@haxforcandy Texas does just bought me one of these today so happy=]
404040c 11 months ago
Its just a flash supressor, I don't have the class 3 federal firearms liscense to own a silencer.
PX213 3 years ago
Ain´t a very good silencer.... still sounds too much like a shot. But nice gun, neverless.
sucker1999 3 years ago