Lateral Ejections Without Explosives!

[shaygahweh]

Building 7 motherfuckers. Debunk that.

[wollclark]

@shaygahweh

lol

[12weasel100]

@shaygahweh easy damage caused the weight loads to shift within the building the resulting fires then weakened the steel framing to the point that the steel lost its strength and could no longer handle the adjusted weight loads and collapsed. It is not a difficult concept to understand. Third graders can understand this. Only idiot Truthers are too stupid to really understand a basic concept.

[JohnsaWozHere]

I thought the beams were like cooked spagetti due to the "Office Fires"

So how do they "Spring Out"

I am confused !

[grandmastershek]

@JohnsaWozHere You are talking about the trusses, they are talking about the columns.

[taledarkside]

@JohnsaWozHere

and if you listen to richard gage, they were liquid

[EGRJ]

@taledarkside Or cardboard.

[theking4mayor]

Now try that again with a bolted down 4 inch thick steel beam.

[recrusto]

BS !!!! This only works for the first seconds of the collapse. After that there is no more upper mass to produce the stress as anyone can see on videos... Try again.

[footjob56]

Beams weren't free, like in your experiment, they were tightend all together like a "mosquito net" and very very heavy so something cut them. Look at the Mariott Hotel, when it was hit by those debris (5 stories of external columns) it was cut in the middle like an apple, the exterior steel columns were not bouncing away.

[TheSkepticalIdealist]

@footjob56

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Gravity explains it better that intense explosives that dont make sound. Go watch a real demolition then realise that they are only strong enough to cut columns not propel heavy steel around.

[EdgemanLL2]

@megamoron911

Physics is a constant. Matters not the material.

what the experiments do show (especially the last 2) is that the enormous stresses on the building easily produced the ejections.

Notably, no kook has ever produced a CD that produced lateral ejections. Why cant they? because the whole purpose of the explostions is to cut the beams, in a timed fashion, so that the cols and means DONT experience the stresses seen on 911.

Ejections as the strongest proof AGAINST CD

[jesterua67]

@EdgemanLL2 ya but those ejections were possible because there is not fixed points above or below , they are not attached , so when the pressure is too much to withstand the piece breaks and ejects ... if it were attached it wouldnt have reacted that way... simple experiment , but no cigar...

[EdgemanLL2]

@jesterua67 Wrong. they are held in place, by friction.

However, even if we accept your invalid premise when the cols (on 911) break under stress, and then are further loaded loaded by the descending mass, it is a direct analoge for these experiments,

Anyway you cut it, lateral ejections DONT happen in a CD. never have. They DID happen on 911, for the reasons demostrated in the experiments.

Its not just a cigar. Its a whole cuban plantation!

[jesterua67]

@EdgemanLL2 This is such a waste of time . to eject something hundreds of feet in a direction woud mean that simultaneously all sides of the peice would have to be detached from the structure ,with extra force to eject the peice. the building stood for all those years no problem and not to mention that the structural steel actually increases in diameter the lower floors .not to mention the mechanical room floors which where heavily reinforced,you know those different color floors 3 or 4 of them

[EdgemanLL2]

@jesterua67 Really?

1) What qualifies you to make that statement?

2) Why is it other CDs (which DO detach people from the structure) dont have the result you claim--lateral ejections?

ooops.

[jesterua67]

@EdgemanLL2 what qualifies me,,, its funny to me that when people are outmaneuvered they often attack the person making the valid arguement , this is a sign of the limits of your knowledge, but anyways... the towers were meant to look and react as they did , for arguement sake , like the invalid one your making now, and other CD's are engineered not to eject debris .. by the type and placement of explosive... this was meant to look plausible enough for the arguement your making ,invalid as it is

[911twoof]

@jesterua67 His question about what qualifies you to make such a statement is rhetorical. Your first comment is nothing but absolute nonsense and shows that you don't have the slightest clue about the laws of physics or how structures react to stresses. To prove that you are not qualified to give an opinion on a physical process as complex as required forces in a lateral ejection, I bet you can't even give the correct answer to a very simple physics problem involving only one object.

[911twoof]

@jesterua67 Suppose a 200 kg object is accelerated at a constant rate from rest to 750 km/h in 2.4 seconds. What force must have been applied to it? Most high school physics students can give the correct answer to this very basic problem. I bet you can't. If you can give the correct answer, maybe we'll take your broad assertions about what does and does not happen in a building collapse more seriously.

[jesterua67]

@911twoof ARe you retarded constant acceleration .... why would you even interject into this debate... must be a fellow debunker coming to help his fellow walking eagle.... my question to you is ... Do you consider yourself a patriot..? if you do then why do you insist on debunking basic free speech , who cares what others think and do... what vested interest do you have in the outcome... noone cares if your a debunker... thats your thing .. we just use it to judge your base IQ ... LOW... HAHA

[EdgemanLL2]

@jesterua67 Translation: There is NOTHINg that qualifies you.

Youre completely 100% UNEDUCATED, ZERO EXPIRENCE, COMPLETELY GUESSING at what would happen.

Guesses from the uneducated are not facts.

[jesterua67]

@EdgemanLL2

EVERY TIME I SEE A SHORT BUS ... I THINK OF YOU,..AND YOUR BUDDY 911TWOOF... NICE SPELLING YOU FUCKING RETARD , YOUR GONNA FEEL LIKE A FUCKUP WHEN THIS WHOLE 911 THING BLOWS UP IN YOUR FACE... JUST LIKE THE CORE COLUMNS OF WTC 1 AND 2 OH AND 7 LITTLE BITCH...

[911twoof]

@jesterua67 Wow I really made you mad, you use CAPS LOCK like a pro. I bet it just sucks to be too dumb to answer even a basic physics question. Enjoy your life as a janitor at McDonald's :)

[jesterua67]

@911twoof constant acceleration are you fucked ... acceleration is a curve... there is no constant... basic physics question .pathetic . where the fuck did you get those numbers ... 200kg up to 750km/h in 2.4 seconds.... stupid question...probably from an inept disgruntled walmart greeter... HAVE A NICE DAY...

[911twoof]

@jesterua67 said "constant acceleration are you fucked ... acceleration is a curve... there is no constant.."

LOL!!! You're fucking retarded. You are in constant acceleration when you are in freefall or when you are driving at a constant velocity, to name a few examples. You don't even know basic high school physics and you're going on and on about building collapses. Man, you twoofers are funny. It's a good thing your mommy lets you live in her basement.

[jesterua67]

@911twoof when driving at a constant velocity your acceleration is 0 ... moron...and once you reach you terminal velocity in freefall , acceleration is 0 ... Are you asking me about high school physics , cuz I know I was there..but it sounds like you were listening at the door... And no I dont live in the basement with your IQ ... my kids are probably older than you dipshit... now I really know the intelect I'm dealing with thanks... forrest gump dumbass...

[911twoof]

@jesterua67 said "when driving at a constant velocity your acceleration is 0"

Yes, that's constant acceleration you idiot. Constant means unchanging. It's not that hard to understand. Your original comment clearly indicates you didn't know what constant accelerations means: "constant acceleration are you fucked ... acceleration is a curve... there is no constant.."

"my kids are probably older than you dipshit"

Well then I really feel embarrassed for you. It must suck to be both stupid and old.

[EdgemanLL2]

@jesterua67 Cry all you want to. You have no more credibility declaring what should happen in a building collapse than a blind man can declare the Umpire blew the call.

Bitch! HAHAHAH

[jesterua67]

@EdgemanLL2 Just like a dumbass american redneck retard mental midget to use sports analogies to prove whatever it is your tryin to prove... The only tears I shed are for inept fall-downs like yourself ... living life like pacman ... just gobbling up all the bullshit you can fit in your mouth... yum yum more goverment lies...yum yum... And then criticizing real people who want the truth and nothing else , like an unpaid DOD employee... its too bad you werent in the towers..

[EdgemanLL2]

@jesterua67 OK. So you cried about me, instead of dealing with the reality. Got it now.

Sorry Moron, but people who want the truth dont ignore it when they get it.

You want the truth like Ricky Martin wants pussy.

[jesterua67]

@EdgemanLL2 SAy what you want about 911 and the theatre that people argue over but I know that Osama Bin Laden never legislated my fuckning freedoms away... I feel sorry for you I really do.

[EdgemanLL2]

@jesterua67 <--LOLOLOLOL. Poor delusional, insignifcant retard. Actually thinks Dick Cheney ever said to himself "Man, Jestard67 sure has too many freedoms. We need to legislate some away!"

Yep, the entire universe revolves around you and whatever freedoms you think youve lost.

But back on planet NormalPerson, anyone with a brain realizes tha teven if your "V for Vendetta" Walter mitty fantasy is true, it STILL DOESNT MAKE A TERRORIST ATTACK INTO AN INSIDE JOB! DUH!!!!!!

LMGDAO!!!

[jesterua67]

@EdgemanLL2 haha. caught three losers on this fishing trip , done fishing for now... throw these guppies back...

[EdgemanLL2]

@jesterua67 More crying. Now she runs off.

Edge wins!

[jesterua67]

@EdgemanLL2 "Sorry Moron, but people who want the truth dont ignore it when they get it." ... I dont know if your statement applies to everyone but yourself ... I guess our definition of truth is at odds with mine... no bother in your case my quote to you is "ignorance is bliss" and if thats the case you must be on cloud 9 everyday... funny you have a fighter jet on your channel page when , besides your intelligence , they were the absent on 911 ... huh , must have been those muslims...

[EdgemanLL2]

@jesterua67 "I guess our definition of truth is at odds with mine."

Sure is. YOUR definition of truth is "committ treason by siding with the enemy in time of war, by pretending they didnt do it!"

My definition is "statements or conclusions drawn objectively from, and supported by, actual facts."

[NanoThermite911]

Your first experiment is a rubber ball, not even the same material...

The second you used a tooth pick which is wood, not steel which buckles and doesn't snap... Very unscientific...

Your third example is the only plausible one and was already suggested by Ryan Mackie, yet neither you nor anyone else can provide the physics calculations to disprove the McQueen-Zamboni paper... Why not?

Furthermore these were perimeter columns that were launched 600 feet laterally. Show your math...