@SuperGtafan123 The only problem with that is if you are in fact facing a guy, he will probably be expecting a move like that, so he'll be guarding his groin with extra care. If you do see an oppurtunity, though, definitely go for it. :)
my dad showed me this today it hurt like a ***** when ur wrist bends like that hes 4th degree black belt in Hawaiian Lua 5th dan in aikido been in Jiu-Jitsu wing chun and more hes been in marital arts for 40 years now and has been in the military for over 20 years
This technique works against an opponent that is not signifantly stronger than you are in brute strength. If my opponent were more massive and more powerfully built, I would instead opt for an eyeball gouge or hard slap to the very exposed ear before he could get in a good punch. Still, this is a good technique against an average sized man.
Hi have you tried drilling this at full speed with a non compliant partner one who grabs and punches you as it happens in real life.Or somebody who pulls away not everyone keeps their grip and pull away.Could you show this please.I like this version of Nikkyo.I was taught similar by Sensei Trevor Roberts,you could drill the hand on hand turning 90 degrees to the outside in and put arm over his so his arm is in your armpit into ude gatami a lot safer thats how we train it now.
Instead of laughing at others, upload your own vids and let us know... maybe we can learn a thing or 2... or not. anyway word are cheap esp. here on youtube.
@thehotsixer im shur if u where in that situation u wudnt be able to move that fast beleve me me n my friends wrestle all the time and we videod some of them all this shit looks slow when they teach it but its alot faster in real life like so fast you dont even think about it
i'd argue as a martial atist is that that grip isnt kung fu - if anything the lapel grip is judo (i'd know because its the firts martial art i did. the move he's doing is kung fu, looks shaolin in origin - although they'd be more likley just to smash the arm at the elbow
HI I hope people see this. Normally people grab your shirt like they are lifting weights. they have their palms facing 45 degrees INWARDS and UPWARDS. How do you get out of that?? Respond please. All the manipulations are when the attacker has his palm facing OUTWARDS. it cant be used
@fuckliao its unlikely unless your quite small that they'd hold you at arms length anyway, as you'd generaly want to follow thorugh with a throw from this position. with big peoplethey often do this with both hands and lift you off the floor. the incorret responce to either is to grab the arm(s) - acheives nothing at all. there are a few, but i do wing chung which is quite direct, so i'd attack the ears and eyes to disorient and distract, then give a few blows to the throat sternum and temples.
Dude, you need a robotic accuracy for that tickling the hand. That too a robot with Dual Xeon processor with 4GB free ram and Linux installed on it for faster and accurate results. Damn!
aikae20: You lost the fight because you didn't know the follow through. Use your left foot or left fist to strike the back of the elbow. Anyone who stands up after that really shouldn't be messed with, lol
@cornerkiller9 fair argument but i have seen vicous fights were it starts with a minor short grab, plus even pulling a simple move like that can severly dishearten your opponent.
None at all. I agree. One of the instructors I have trained with the most mixed up our "traditional" stuff with sparring with gloves and BJJ, most likely because he knew on some level "traditional" training wasn't optimum.
i don't preclude the possibility that good traditional schools exist, but i've searched for a while and the one defining characteristic of any school claiming to be traditional is the unrealistic nature of the training. this is my personal experience, no disrespect
these days tkd teaches whatever the hell it wants because there is zero quality control. they had us learning knife defense and all this shit when we were 12 years old. looking back its really silly to think of a bunch of 12 year olds disarming each other of plastic knives.
but yeah, tons of wrist locks in the ATA, extreme mcdojo. im still not convinced tma's have any other kind.
Yeah I've seen some TKD schools involving Hapkido instructors to "cross train" their students in joint locks. Still not convinced tma's have any other kind of what?
not convinced tma's have any other kind of dojo than mcdojo. in fact, to me thats essentially what a traditional art is; just a place where people train unrealistically. its not like traditional kung fu is actually traditional. all the theatrical forms and animal styles etc. were actually created after the chinese cultural revolution. so im not sure what makes an art traditional these days except the lack of full contact training, competition, and basic footwork
during college i became a fan of mma and when i graduated i started training and i've been training on and off ever since
occasionally there are gems amoungst the many shity traditional techniques, but this is not one of them. the technique in this video is too dangerous and too unreliable to even consider.
id say establishing wrist control and gaurding your face is the simplest solution
you could clinch for a take down or to establish control
Alright I believe you. I know wrist locks are wrist locks but I know there are many approaches to them. I have just been exposed to ways to make them work albeit difficult. I definitely respect your opinion since it seems based on your own conclusions from personal experience.
i was also wrestling during high school, and that helped bring my understanding of martial arts back down to earth. i ended up quiting karate when i finally realized that i could wrestle my way out of all the japanese ju justu and 'self defense'. i got to the point where we rolled live with submissions and it was obvious that none of these guys had the skills of a combat athlete. i was by no means a great wrestler, but good enough to see how silly standing joint locks are
pretty sure people grab your lapel to line up a punch to your face. probably not good to lean in and occupy both of your own hands without giving a thought to your opponents other arm.
does anyone actually think a standing and resisting opponent would be trapped like this?
@nicerebound Yes I do think they would fall because of the twist on the entire arm and the weight from leaning forward into them. They twist to one side and your leaning forward makes them lose their balance. As for the other arm, not if you do it quick enough. Not an expert, just common sense.
Absolutely correct. Once someone learns the basics of this technique the next step would be in the context of a fight. Pretty sure this video is just step one.
funny how step one in traditional arts is always totally useless.
"here let me show you how to do the move completely wrong. to be clear, students, this technique will never work as im teaching it, but if you pay me enough money and train for year and years, i will show you the actual technique that this represents. of course, this second technique will also seem completely useless, but it will take you one step closer to the real ultra deadly move. then after years and years..."
yeah...'plain and simple' it just doesn't make sense. don't get me wrong, this joint lock would be an excellent counter against a one armed man who grabs your lapel. but the fight application against an athletic dual armed attacker is laughable. you are not protecting your face from the punch he almost certainly plans to throw. BOGUS. this bullshit could get someone hurt
. its never gonna work against anyone whos somewhat athletic
Don't get me wrong I understand your argument, but put into a real fighting context(including you striking, avoiding, and any other option) joint locks work. It just depends on if during the fight you chose to/can utilize them. I am not claiming joint locks is the ideal route to go in a fight, just they can be used effectively. The problem with most martial arts is they don't teach how to apply them towards a modern attacker.(They say they do, but most don't)
i think a lot of traditional stuff isn't taught against a modern attacker because it doesn't work. standing wrist locks are low percentage and almost always fail against trained opponents. when you know a punch is coming, you simply cannot leave your face open and occupy both of your hands with a wrist lock attempt. techniques like these give people a false sense of confidence. learn real grappling if you intend to rely on your skills to manipulate an attacker. this BS grappling won't help you
i studied TKD for years as a child, got a second degree blackbelt but they are a dime a dozen in that art. there were many wrist locks
i studied eagle claw kung fu for a little under 2 years, there were an obscene number of wrist locks in the training, but i guess thats eagle claw's thing
studied chito ryu karate in high school. most of what our instructor called 'self defense' consisted of standing joint locks. there were more wrist locks than i liked at the time
Your Honor, I realize he suffered a broken wrist and and severe fractures to his forearm.
I am also fully aware he peed his pants and cried like a 5-year old in front of his "gang" friends.
But if I hadn't subdued him I would have had to deal with his "gang" friends also ............and I may have been bored as heck all day and I just couldn't stand the thought your Honor !
it would work cuz the ppl who do it are really really fast in real life. that guy is one of my best friends sifu and my friend is fast as hell and says he cant even touch sifu dan. so dont sweat it it wuld work
It would depend.. If the dude was trying to act tough.. he would do that.. Especially if he thinks he's bigger and stronger than you are. Usually people who don't know how to fight do that.. hahah
All these variations that many of you are referring to can be used. This video is just one POSSIBILITY. Of course he could hit his face first, scissor his arm and lock or break his elbow, hold his hand to his chest and step back and lean forward etc. etc. etc. Some you sound like idiots "Well why didn't he just..." Because this is one example that has several variant properties. you're beating a dead dog.
Yep, hold on with your right hand, lift and thrust down with the palm of your left on the elbow. One quick move and at that angle it would snap like a chicken bone. Good self defence.
stewie if you do this correct this is much better than one ounch in the face you have control of him and you can do many punches when you have him in that final position
Why do that when you could destroy his wrist, knee him in the face, and then elbow lock (ude gatame) all before the guy realizes you are fighting back. You just punch a guy, what if you miss, dont knock him out, he can really take a punch etc. Using proper jujitsu you can completely destroy the guy with a wrist lock/strike combination in the same time it takes you to throw two punches. Only you dont have control of the situation, you are just fighting.
because it is more efficient to just palm him in the face--Bruce Lee even advocated this simple defense. THEN you can move to control the joint.Soften/shock--then control.
This is a good basic technique. Adding a kick to the groin or finger jab to the eye/face will ensure the technique works. Practise makes the exercution time faster. Nice vid.
So you haters are saying this is useless? A schoolyard bully grabs a kids shirt, and without expecting it, ends up on his knees with searing wrist pain a second later. Empowers the kid, teaches the blowhard a lesson. This is not for law enforcement or a MMA tourney, dude. It's for the chick who's about to get served by her drunk husband. Good stuff.
@wildLyka and later the kickass kid parents pays the other kid parents for the problem ho the kick ass kid couse to the hand of boolis kid............... soory for my englease!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
dude, by the time yur thinking whether yur hands locked in the right position...he could just move in with a very solid knee and thats the end of the story right there!
I practiced this same defense at my martial arts place. There are a few other things to add that he doesn't show. One is a step back to get out of range. Once the lock is applied a knee is not going to be effective.
And don't forget the adrenaline. Because of that, you'll most likely lose a lot of abilities except if you're trained for that. Once you lose everything, the first thing you'll do is hit his face or dodge/block an incoming attack. But, IF you're trained, it's a complete other story. Trust me on that...
Why so much explanation ? When the guy holds you like 0:37 all you have to do is grab his hand with your right hand, turn a little bit to the right and give a nice forearm hit on his elbow and he won't be able to fight anymore. Just a nice punch in it and it's done. Most efficient combats are always the shortest.
it is illegal to put your hands on another person w/o their consent. person grabbing you has committed assault. no, you can not stomp guy's head into pavement after technique, but in this scenario, the technique is completely legal.
If someone is assaulting you to the degree that you belief your life is in danger, you have the right to legally execute deadly force on that person, period.
hey dumbass....don't "period" me. get your information straight: someone grabbing your wrist is not "life in danger" or "deadly force". learn to read before you talk down at me boy. period.
well when you do this move and have them below you, they will try to punch you, and they will probably aim low, thats when you start blocking with your knees
you do it quickly. make sure hand is trapped before stepping back then to the right. guy cant punch across his own chest. need to practice following up after initial technique.
Very good technique. I've done a slight variation of the technique where you first grab the attackers hand just as you do in the video but, with the second hand, you push on the attackers elbo whilst stepping back with the foot that corresponds to the hand that you initially use to grab the attackers hand with and rotate your body. The end result is that you spin your opponent uber fast into a nearby object, or onto the ground. I think mine is a sort of aikido defense. Great video!
As soon as he grabs ur shirt, smash him in the face and don't stop till he lets go!!! Don't make it complicated!!
knowledgeisthepower1 1 day ago
I keep thinking there is a third person in the video, but it's that practice dummy thing.
Oldmanwinter100 3 months ago
i did this with a friend but he broke his arm xD
merijnXD 5 months ago
@SuperGtafan123 The only problem with that is if you are in fact facing a guy, he will probably be expecting a move like that, so he'll be guarding his groin with extra care. If you do see an oppurtunity, though, definitely go for it. :)
nightmaregem 5 months ago
Kapu Kuʻialua; Kuialua
xcoldmurderx123 5 months ago
my dad showed me this today it hurt like a ***** when ur wrist bends like that hes 4th degree black belt in Hawaiian Lua 5th dan in aikido been in Jiu-Jitsu wing chun and more hes been in marital arts for 40 years now and has been in the military for over 20 years
xcoldmurderx123 5 months ago
you know, or you could just kick him in the cahoonies?
Randomkid148 5 months ago
Nice one,Subscribed. Please keep it up.
Arjun007ize 6 months ago
if a guy is holding my shirt i just kick him in the nuts that easy
SuperGtafan123 6 months ago
This technique works against an opponent that is not signifantly stronger than you are in brute strength. If my opponent were more massive and more powerfully built, I would instead opt for an eyeball gouge or hard slap to the very exposed ear before he could get in a good punch. Still, this is a good technique against an average sized man.
User5973 7 months ago
man f**k dat when he lets go he gets some nice b***h slaps
brandonclarkeww 8 months ago
Why not just rotate your body clockwise in a twisting 360 motion and do a spinning backfist or elbow to his face? Sounds much more fun.
Lameglioify 9 months ago
lisp lol
PeachPiexoxo 1 year ago
Uhm.. Grabbing someones shirt isnt a Kung Fu move..
oKiLLBoXo 1 year ago 11
@oKiLLBoXo ,
its part of one
boychickiewack12345 4 months ago
Nykio
Platysoma 1 year ago
dont always work like that though does it...
MATTNATTMATT 1 year ago
@MATTNATTMATT no technique in the world ever always works
kapoof2 8 months ago
@cornerkiller9
its called you strike them to the face or do a groin kick and do what he showed you quickly not slowly like a dumb fuck like he did
G3neSis2009 1 year ago
I want to learn kung fu so badly!!!
cannibalchewbacca 1 year ago
good stuff =) thnx
JFA13LUCKY 1 year ago 3
@MegaSmud - hahaha! right!
hardstylemanga16 1 year ago
Don´t waist your time with some techniques! Hold his hand an kick him to the knie or groin.
MegaSmud 1 year ago
Do you have any videos on double lapel shirt grabs?
fightnight79 1 year ago
Hi have you tried drilling this at full speed with a non compliant partner one who grabs and punches you as it happens in real life.Or somebody who pulls away not everyone keeps their grip and pull away.Could you show this please.I like this version of Nikkyo.I was taught similar by Sensei Trevor Roberts,you could drill the hand on hand turning 90 degrees to the outside in and put arm over his so his arm is in your armpit into ude gatami a lot safer thats how we train it now.
101tenkan 1 year ago
LOL HE FIGHTS HIMSELF, WTF
duertoadr 1 year ago
errrr.... can't see anything ?!?!
regnbognmaedel 1 year ago
Or, What about kick his nuts and run away ?
OldSchoolClassic94 1 year ago
Will this work against a nipple grab? my sister knows this shit im mediocre at drunken fist so i gotta learn dude
Eddie692 1 year ago
Neat...simple...effective. THANK YOU!!!
RyanAnanymous 1 year ago
this man speaks like obama lol
adanali85 1 year ago
Thanks expert villiage, now I dont have to worry about those pesky kung fu ninjas that always grab my shirt everytime i leave the house
SpiderShane1 1 year ago
how do i get the writing off the screen???
TheHummingOwl 1 year ago
WOW! NICE!
angel2rx 1 year ago
it is no need to do that. U can just spin and give him a karate kick
lmc20041309 1 year ago
wtf noobs hahahaha. i can better moves to defens fro jiu jitsu
UveysD 1 year ago
@UveysD
Instead of laughing at others, upload your own vids and let us know... maybe we can learn a thing or 2... or not. anyway word are cheap esp. here on youtube.
Jarno1510 1 year ago
@UveysD i bet i can whoop ur ass muay thai ftw
Stompeminthenuts10 1 year ago
@Stompeminthenuts10 hahaha muay thai is nothing vs kunf fu
UveysD 1 year ago
@UveysD and i can muay thai too
UveysD 1 year ago
When he syas "break in the wrist..." does he mean breaking-bones?
SonicPAJ 1 year ago
why not just hit him in the elbow to break his arm strenght and kick him in the balls?
thehotsixer 1 year ago
@thehotsixer im shur if u where in that situation u wudnt be able to move that fast beleve me me n my friends wrestle all the time and we videod some of them all this shit looks slow when they teach it but its alot faster in real life like so fast you dont even think about it
derrick713 1 year ago
i'd argue as a martial atist is that that grip isnt kung fu - if anything the lapel grip is judo (i'd know because its the firts martial art i did. the move he's doing is kung fu, looks shaolin in origin - although they'd be more likley just to smash the arm at the elbow
hellzoneUK1991 1 year ago
HI I hope people see this. Normally people grab your shirt like they are lifting weights. they have their palms facing 45 degrees INWARDS and UPWARDS. How do you get out of that?? Respond please. All the manipulations are when the attacker has his palm facing OUTWARDS. it cant be used
fuckliao 1 year ago
@fuckliao its unlikely unless your quite small that they'd hold you at arms length anyway, as you'd generaly want to follow thorugh with a throw from this position. with big peoplethey often do this with both hands and lift you off the floor. the incorret responce to either is to grab the arm(s) - acheives nothing at all. there are a few, but i do wing chung which is quite direct, so i'd attack the ears and eyes to disorient and distract, then give a few blows to the throat sternum and temples.
hellzoneUK1991 1 year ago
your mom
ambersalus117116 1 year ago
Dude, you need a robotic accuracy for that tickling the hand. That too a robot with Dual Xeon processor with 4GB free ram and Linux installed on it for faster and accurate results. Damn!
CarterKhan 1 year ago
Interesting way of breaking the grip.
Keep up the good work.
Hope you will take a peak at our videos as well.
CatChingDo 1 year ago
what if he punch you any chance of blocking the punch if you are using two hand...advice please thanks
spiderpig1719 1 year ago
its just a statue
9pogita9 1 year ago
he's just lucky the attacker guy hasn't noticed all those spears in the background.
lachlan1971 1 year ago
aikae20: You lost the fight because you didn't know the follow through. Use your left foot or left fist to strike the back of the elbow. Anyone who stands up after that really shouldn't be messed with, lol
cypherdtraitor 2 years ago
Yeah last time i checked, if someone grabs your shirt they deck you in the face, not stand there while you tickle thier hand
cornerkiller9 2 years ago 27
hahahaha yeah me too..then i got my ass kicked!
aikae20 2 years ago
@cornerkiller9 hell yeah this nigga must be on crack or sum shit
Reaper16a 2 years ago
@cornerkiller9 its a fast motion though and plus these guys dont know what the hell they are talking about.. this isnt how you do it
wannabe922 1 year ago
@cornerkiller9 mwahahaahahhahahahahaha nice 1 lol
iraqilegend 1 year ago
@cornerkiller9
nah, they usually wait and threaten.
also, push their thumb nail down hard, it hurts, alot.
then you have them moaning about their thumb, they become an easy target to an offensive attack.
Lishy1996 1 year ago
@cornerkiller9 fair argument but i have seen vicous fights were it starts with a minor short grab, plus even pulling a simple move like that can severly dishearten your opponent.
TheJosephagus 1 year ago
@cornerkiller9 it should be done quickly duh!
CharroDavid 8 months ago
@cornerkiller9 not necessarily. sometimes they grab and yell and thrash n shit. then this technique can be done.
heavyironmusic 8 months ago
@cornerkiller9 actually there's planty of moments where they just grab you and you wanna kick their asses and do this.
maxk880 6 months ago
it is bad.
recall370 2 years ago
who is the guy behind you, he doesn't move..
redcapKO 2 years ago 76
@redcapKO its a training dummy
john11lazerbeam 2 years ago
@john11lazerbeam
i think he knows that >.>
amandatrules 2 years ago
its just a statue
9pogita9 1 year ago
@redcapKO i think it's just the torso of some guy he killed ; a sort of momento
Tha4thLetterr 1 year ago
@redcapKO he is the guy who tried to do a kung fu shirt grab on this dude... it wasn't pretty...
fullellinaras 1 year ago
@redcapKO lmao its a manican
NightWolfThaKing 1 year ago
@redcapKO ahahahahha this is a '' human '' target in many martial arts schools nowdays ! Cheers !
BillyLo1995 1 year ago
@redcapKO That is hard core zen meditation.
DandDskeeto 6 months ago
@redcapKO
hahahahahahahahaha lol :-)
kungfoolkyle1998 6 months ago
@redcapKO the guard
prokickboxer123 5 months ago
got milk?
HolyGlucose 2 years ago
None at all. I agree. One of the instructors I have trained with the most mixed up our "traditional" stuff with sparring with gloves and BJJ, most likely because he knew on some level "traditional" training wasn't optimum.
Jonste24 2 years ago
i don't preclude the possibility that good traditional schools exist, but i've searched for a while and the one defining characteristic of any school claiming to be traditional is the unrealistic nature of the training. this is my personal experience, no disrespect
nicerebound 2 years ago
I actually didn't realize TKD taught wrist locks, I know Hapkido does.
Jonste24 2 years ago
these days tkd teaches whatever the hell it wants because there is zero quality control. they had us learning knife defense and all this shit when we were 12 years old. looking back its really silly to think of a bunch of 12 year olds disarming each other of plastic knives.
but yeah, tons of wrist locks in the ATA, extreme mcdojo. im still not convinced tma's have any other kind.
nicerebound 2 years ago
Yeah I've seen some TKD schools involving Hapkido instructors to "cross train" their students in joint locks. Still not convinced tma's have any other kind of what?
Jonste24 2 years ago
not convinced tma's have any other kind of dojo than mcdojo. in fact, to me thats essentially what a traditional art is; just a place where people train unrealistically. its not like traditional kung fu is actually traditional. all the theatrical forms and animal styles etc. were actually created after the chinese cultural revolution. so im not sure what makes an art traditional these days except the lack of full contact training, competition, and basic footwork
nicerebound 2 years ago
during college i became a fan of mma and when i graduated i started training and i've been training on and off ever since
occasionally there are gems amoungst the many shity traditional techniques, but this is not one of them. the technique in this video is too dangerous and too unreliable to even consider.
id say establishing wrist control and gaurding your face is the simplest solution
you could clinch for a take down or to establish control
dont keep your head still and ungarded
nicerebound 2 years ago
Alright I believe you. I know wrist locks are wrist locks but I know there are many approaches to them. I have just been exposed to ways to make them work albeit difficult. I definitely respect your opinion since it seems based on your own conclusions from personal experience.
Jonste24 2 years ago
i was also wrestling during high school, and that helped bring my understanding of martial arts back down to earth. i ended up quiting karate when i finally realized that i could wrestle my way out of all the japanese ju justu and 'self defense'. i got to the point where we rolled live with submissions and it was obvious that none of these guys had the skills of a combat athlete. i was by no means a great wrestler, but good enough to see how silly standing joint locks are
nicerebound 2 years ago
you guys are biting for this hook, line and sinker.
nicerebound 2 years ago
pretty sure people grab your lapel to line up a punch to your face. probably not good to lean in and occupy both of your own hands without giving a thought to your opponents other arm.
does anyone actually think a standing and resisting opponent would be trapped like this?
nicerebound 2 years ago
@nicerebound Yes I do think they would fall because of the twist on the entire arm and the weight from leaning forward into them. They twist to one side and your leaning forward makes them lose their balance. As for the other arm, not if you do it quick enough. Not an expert, just common sense.
vmtz2001 2 years ago
Absolutely correct. Once someone learns the basics of this technique the next step would be in the context of a fight. Pretty sure this video is just step one.
Jonste24 2 years ago
funny how step one in traditional arts is always totally useless.
"here let me show you how to do the move completely wrong. to be clear, students, this technique will never work as im teaching it, but if you pay me enough money and train for year and years, i will show you the actual technique that this represents. of course, this second technique will also seem completely useless, but it will take you one step closer to the real ultra deadly move. then after years and years..."
BULLSHIT
nicerebound 2 years ago
Wow did someone punch your lights out while you were attempting this move?
Joint locks do work plain and simple. Being able to apply them in a fight is where it gets complicated.
Jonste24 2 years ago
yeah...'plain and simple' it just doesn't make sense. don't get me wrong, this joint lock would be an excellent counter against a one armed man who grabs your lapel. but the fight application against an athletic dual armed attacker is laughable. you are not protecting your face from the punch he almost certainly plans to throw. BOGUS. this bullshit could get someone hurt
. its never gonna work against anyone whos somewhat athletic
nicerebound 2 years ago
Don't get me wrong I understand your argument, but put into a real fighting context(including you striking, avoiding, and any other option) joint locks work. It just depends on if during the fight you chose to/can utilize them. I am not claiming joint locks is the ideal route to go in a fight, just they can be used effectively. The problem with most martial arts is they don't teach how to apply them towards a modern attacker.(They say they do, but most don't)
Jonste24 2 years ago
i think a lot of traditional stuff isn't taught against a modern attacker because it doesn't work. standing wrist locks are low percentage and almost always fail against trained opponents. when you know a punch is coming, you simply cannot leave your face open and occupy both of your hands with a wrist lock attempt. techniques like these give people a false sense of confidence. learn real grappling if you intend to rely on your skills to manipulate an attacker. this BS grappling won't help you
nicerebound 2 years ago
Do you know this from personal experience or are you just regurgitating what you overheard your BJJ instructor saying?
Jonste24 2 years ago
i studied TKD for years as a child, got a second degree blackbelt but they are a dime a dozen in that art. there were many wrist locks
i studied eagle claw kung fu for a little under 2 years, there were an obscene number of wrist locks in the training, but i guess thats eagle claw's thing
studied chito ryu karate in high school. most of what our instructor called 'self defense' consisted of standing joint locks. there were more wrist locks than i liked at the time
nicerebound 2 years ago
I would find it highly unlikely a "trained opponent" would grab your lapel.
Jonste24 2 years ago
how about bending the joint of his arm and head->head?
13375p34k0r 2 years ago
haha i am the 101 rater
TheFaBiOxP 2 years ago
I was taught that one. Doens't work, throw it out of the play book.
SongBirdJesusFreak 2 years ago
Your Honor, I realize he suffered a broken wrist and and severe fractures to his forearm.
I am also fully aware he peed his pants and cried like a 5-year old in front of his "gang" friends.
But if I hadn't subdued him I would have had to deal with his "gang" friends also ............and I may have been bored as heck all day and I just couldn't stand the thought your Honor !
BadAssBootie 2 years ago
yea, but then it wouldnt be really self defence to break the persons wrist if he wasnt even attacking?
edvisss123 2 years ago
it would work cuz the ppl who do it are really really fast in real life. that guy is one of my best friends sifu and my friend is fast as hell and says he cant even touch sifu dan. so dont sweat it it wuld work
mikebarros6 2 years ago
this wud never happen in real time unless you are really really fast. such grab is usually followed by a punch in the face so ud have no time?
edvisss123 2 years ago
It would depend.. If the dude was trying to act tough.. he would do that.. Especially if he thinks he's bigger and stronger than you are. Usually people who don't know how to fight do that.. hahah
precisionkid 2 years ago
All these variations that many of you are referring to can be used. This video is just one POSSIBILITY. Of course he could hit his face first, scissor his arm and lock or break his elbow, hold his hand to his chest and step back and lean forward etc. etc. etc. Some you sound like idiots "Well why didn't he just..." Because this is one example that has several variant properties. you're beating a dead dog.
pfotojenik 2 years ago
ummm wtf thats the easiest shit just pound there face in or kick there balls you dont got to be a rocket scientist to know that
rapistite 2 years ago
and you can snap his arm
salamipolk 2 years ago
Yep, hold on with your right hand, lift and thrust down with the palm of your left on the elbow. One quick move and at that angle it would snap like a chicken bone. Good self defence.
MrOsiris201088 2 years ago
stewie if you do this correct this is much better than one ounch in the face you have control of him and you can do many punches when you have him in that final position
salamipolk 2 years ago
no if someone grabbed my shirt and left their face open like that, my fist would flatten the shit outta their nose
stewie827 2 years ago
Why do that when you could destroy his wrist, knee him in the face, and then elbow lock (ude gatame) all before the guy realizes you are fighting back. You just punch a guy, what if you miss, dont knock him out, he can really take a punch etc. Using proper jujitsu you can completely destroy the guy with a wrist lock/strike combination in the same time it takes you to throw two punches. Only you dont have control of the situation, you are just fighting.
BrentShiver 2 years ago
Is there a video for this?
Tippet76 2 years ago
because it is more efficient to just palm him in the face--Bruce Lee even advocated this simple defense. THEN you can move to control the joint.Soften/shock--then control.
spoonman73 2 years ago
cheers m8
sammanmagic 2 years ago
This is a good basic technique. Adding a kick to the groin or finger jab to the eye/face will ensure the technique works. Practise makes the exercution time faster. Nice vid.
ShingenDok 2 years ago
So you haters are saying this is useless? A schoolyard bully grabs a kids shirt, and without expecting it, ends up on his knees with searing wrist pain a second later. Empowers the kid, teaches the blowhard a lesson. This is not for law enforcement or a MMA tourney, dude. It's for the chick who's about to get served by her drunk husband. Good stuff.
wildLyka 2 years ago 25
@wildLyka although i agree with your fact, dont you think the bitch that got
served by her drunk husband deserves to get served, that chick would have to be a stupid motherfucker to end up with a motherfucker like that.
forfetable 1 year ago
@wildLyka
Totally agree with you!
AngelinRain 1 year ago
@wildLyka and later the kickass kid parents pays the other kid parents for the problem ho the kick ass kid couse to the hand of boolis kid............... soory for my englease!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
attilas23 1 year ago
@wildLyka
insted of going to him.. do the same thing ang going back!!!! its much easyer, and you dont have to do a much damage to the other.... oooo.... and
.......... SORRY FOR MY ENGLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
attilas23 1 year ago
dude, by the time yur thinking whether yur hands locked in the right position...he could just move in with a very solid knee and thats the end of the story right there!
candydude235 2 years ago
you're right.. giving up is a much better option, right, um.. just in case you get kicked? Right that this needs to become second nature though.
wildLyka 2 years ago
I practiced this same defense at my martial arts place. There are a few other things to add that he doesn't show. One is a step back to get out of range. Once the lock is applied a knee is not going to be effective.
shawandrew 2 years ago
punch 1st ! or the attacker will
aikidunk 2 years ago
Could agree more. Any martial art athlete would`ve most likely lost his head and gone sucker punches all the way.
ulloll 2 years ago
And don't forget the adrenaline. Because of that, you'll most likely lose a lot of abilities except if you're trained for that. Once you lose everything, the first thing you'll do is hit his face or dodge/block an incoming attack. But, IF you're trained, it's a complete other story. Trust me on that...
VannakaZeke 2 years ago 2
that is so freaking trueeeee !!!!!!!!!!!!!
delilahs 2 years ago
but the boy will just lay into you with his left hand. .
its easy whenever theyre just standing there and not punching the head of you.
MartyDoc789 2 years ago 2
this happens really fast
Shiro4565 2 years ago
Or another technique is just hit in the balls... Big guy or not, they'll cry and you get the time to run or to destroy him completely...
VannakaZeke 2 years ago 4
Not true. Some guys are trained not to respond to "ball" pain.
JahJoJah 2 years ago
Could be, but they're really rare lol. But still, there are much more painfull hits, you just have to use everything around you.
VannakaZeke 2 years ago
True
fernandogeorge 2 years ago
Why so much explanation ? When the guy holds you like 0:37 all you have to do is grab his hand with your right hand, turn a little bit to the right and give a nice forearm hit on his elbow and he won't be able to fight anymore. Just a nice punch in it and it's done. Most efficient combats are always the shortest.
VannakaZeke 2 years ago
Great, now have him grab you 100% with his arm bent and the attacker right up in your fac like in real life - it won't work.
LardInATubeSock 3 years ago
i prefer the "shit myself and run" method. if some big guy grabs me, i slip out of my shirt, shit myself and outrun him.
brooksjedi 3 years ago 2
lol thats the old way
777Guitarrist 3 years ago
it is illegal to put your hands on another person w/o their consent. person grabbing you has committed assault. no, you can not stomp guy's head into pavement after technique, but in this scenario, the technique is completely legal.
kenfo0 3 years ago
If someone is assaulting you to the degree that you belief your life is in danger, you have the right to legally execute deadly force on that person, period.
hleespartastic 3 years ago 5
hey dumbass....don't "period" me. get your information straight: someone grabbing your wrist is not "life in danger" or "deadly force". learn to read before you talk down at me boy. period.
kenfo0 3 years ago
i think your correct ..if your life is in danger you need deadly force to defend yourself...
akikashi27 3 years ago
it works if the other guy have just one hand!
viniciuslaur 3 years ago
well when you do this move and have them below you, they will try to punch you, and they will probably aim low, thats when you start blocking with your knees
insanitystudio 3 years ago
no...
Brysoft 3 years ago
you do it quickly. make sure hand is trapped before stepping back then to the right. guy cant punch across his own chest. need to practice following up after initial technique.
kenfo0 3 years ago
Fk.. that will hurt so BAD!!
thisishyimhot 3 years ago
base essentielle à connaitre
tres bonne explication!!
tchalawa 3 years ago
HAHAHA
yeaa if i wanted to beat up a guy, the first thing I'D grab is his "lapel"
BAHAHAH
Brndn53 3 years ago
hello im dan shmit! (wat a name)
SAFEKID15 3 years ago
Whats your name then?
GameShark004 3 years ago 3
too complicated!
kung fu instructor my my my,,,,
that's more akido to me than simple kung fu.
Try grabing the hand, sinking you weight (forget the twist move), then thrash him quickly!
gouarts2 3 years ago
why not just punch em in da face
sphynx105 3 years ago 4
nice
zaqwertyuiopasdfgh 3 years ago
why not just bite him or bent his fingers thats wat i do xD
sinjid100 3 years ago
OUCH. the other guy's always beaten up. doesn't it hurt? lol
sharmainsan 3 years ago 2
Basickley wrist lever.
Ju-Jitsu Self defence.
kirkwanglers32 3 years ago
These are all great videos!
jackregalado 3 years ago 3
I would of followed up with a Palm heal and knees.
kirkwanglers32 3 years ago 2
Yes, and your opponent's right at kicking range too. Good follow up, good call.
jackregalado 3 years ago
Same method I was taught, but we learn to pull away. therfore laying your attacker flat on the ground, where you or I can escape. Great teaching
djh034 3 years ago
i learned that but we put our right hand further down their arm to have move control.
Mike07P 3 years ago
Very good technique. I've done a slight variation of the technique where you first grab the attackers hand just as you do in the video but, with the second hand, you push on the attackers elbo whilst stepping back with the foot that corresponds to the hand that you initially use to grab the attackers hand with and rotate your body. The end result is that you spin your opponent uber fast into a nearby object, or onto the ground. I think mine is a sort of aikido defense. Great video!
karatefox 4 years ago
wudnt it break their arm if u push them with their arm straight?
hernamewasrose1223 4 years ago