I hate to say this but TV selling WTA is very misleading. Whole Tobacco Alkaloid is a isolation of minor alkaloids. What TV is doing is a simple soak or maceration. When soaking tobacco's you're pulling everything out of the tobacco including gunk that you would never want to vape. The amount of WTA from a soak would yield next to nothing in WTA. One should consider wear on attys along with carcinogens when you using macerated juice. Its my understanding only 2 companies are making WTA.
@vapingnews Well, this is where the argument stems, and why I wanted to try it out. Ostensibly vaping a proper WTA juice is supposed to give you a bit of a rush, and I didn't really get much of that with this one. It probably contains more of the tobacco alkaloids that normal juice but the debate seems to be on how much given that it's only a maceration.
One can debate this but a basic chemist will tell you there's virtually no trace amounts of minor alkaloids when compared to real WTA. Isolation of minor alkaloids is a organic chem process. If doing a simple soak produced WTA plenty of other suppliers would make that claim. I think its misleading for the reseller to be advertising as such. Search for "DVAP and Soak on ECF" to get a better understanding. Your experience is more from the nic and a placebo effect then anything else.
@vapingnews Well, it would certainly explain why I couldn't be absolutely sure I was feeling anything beyond the normal hit of nicotine. It certainly _tasted_ like a good, authentic tobacco, which you'd expect from a genuine extract, but perhaps anything I did believe I was feeling was just a bit of extra nicotine from puffing on it more than I usually do. :)
@vapingnews It is mentioned on my site for the fact its added e-liquid impurities. TV does not share with me their proprietary extraction process. As such I am left to speculate on exactly what impurities are actually being extracted from the tobacco maceration. Different molecules have different lipophilic/hydrophilic properties, so the final alkaloid composition would be highly dependent on exactly what the polarity of the solvents are that TV uses to prepare the product.
all i vape so far is tobaccos my favorite is ry4 from flavourart (diy 10% 70-30 ) . i also really like the M-type or marlboro from flavourart diy, not to mention the amazing 3&5 diy.
I havent liked many premixed tobaccos but this one i will def try , the alkaloids thing is making me very curious as i still smoke a few analogs a day to avoid withdrawal.
@HanzoTh3Razor I haven't tried any of the FA tobaccos actually -- or if I have I don't know about it, as it's entirely possible some of the premixed I've tried are blends of various existing tobacco flavourings. The good thing about tobaccos though is that they take a wide range of additional flavours very well, so even if you weren't blown away by this tobacco's flavour, you could always add a few drops of chocolate and vanilla and make your own WTA RY4 out of it. :)
Thanks for the review, I've been really curious about this one as I tend to always order a lot of sweet TV flavours from GR but the TV tobacco keeps catching my eye. Will have to give it a whirl next time I order.
@18pct Please do, and let me know if it hits you any differently than your average juice. Like I said in the video I may just not have a sensitivity to the WTAs but I know others do, so I'm quite curious as to how it may effect others.
I hate to say this but TV selling WTA is very misleading. Whole Tobacco Alkaloid is a isolation of minor alkaloids. What TV is doing is a simple soak or maceration. When soaking tobacco's you're pulling everything out of the tobacco including gunk that you would never want to vape. The amount of WTA from a soak would yield next to nothing in WTA. One should consider wear on attys along with carcinogens when you using macerated juice. Its my understanding only 2 companies are making WTA.
vapingnews 1 month ago
@vapingnews Well, this is where the argument stems, and why I wanted to try it out. Ostensibly vaping a proper WTA juice is supposed to give you a bit of a rush, and I didn't really get much of that with this one. It probably contains more of the tobacco alkaloids that normal juice but the debate seems to be on how much given that it's only a maceration.
VaporChase 1 month ago
One can debate this but a basic chemist will tell you there's virtually no trace amounts of minor alkaloids when compared to real WTA. Isolation of minor alkaloids is a organic chem process. If doing a simple soak produced WTA plenty of other suppliers would make that claim. I think its misleading for the reseller to be advertising as such. Search for "DVAP and Soak on ECF" to get a better understanding. Your experience is more from the nic and a placebo effect then anything else.
vapingnews 1 month ago
@vapingnews Well, it would certainly explain why I couldn't be absolutely sure I was feeling anything beyond the normal hit of nicotine. It certainly _tasted_ like a good, authentic tobacco, which you'd expect from a genuine extract, but perhaps anything I did believe I was feeling was just a bit of extra nicotine from puffing on it more than I usually do. :)
VaporChase 1 month ago
@vapingnews It is mentioned on my site for the fact its added e-liquid impurities. TV does not share with me their proprietary extraction process. As such I am left to speculate on exactly what impurities are actually being extracted from the tobacco maceration. Different molecules have different lipophilic/hydrophilic properties, so the final alkaloid composition would be highly dependent on exactly what the polarity of the solvents are that TV uses to prepare the product.
GentlemensReserve 1 day ago
all i vape so far is tobaccos my favorite is ry4 from flavourart (diy 10% 70-30 ) . i also really like the M-type or marlboro from flavourart diy, not to mention the amazing 3&5 diy.
I havent liked many premixed tobaccos but this one i will def try , the alkaloids thing is making me very curious as i still smoke a few analogs a day to avoid withdrawal.
HanzoTh3Razor 1 month ago
@HanzoTh3Razor I haven't tried any of the FA tobaccos actually -- or if I have I don't know about it, as it's entirely possible some of the premixed I've tried are blends of various existing tobacco flavourings. The good thing about tobaccos though is that they take a wide range of additional flavours very well, so even if you weren't blown away by this tobacco's flavour, you could always add a few drops of chocolate and vanilla and make your own WTA RY4 out of it. :)
VaporChase 1 month ago
Thanks for the review, I've been really curious about this one as I tend to always order a lot of sweet TV flavours from GR but the TV tobacco keeps catching my eye. Will have to give it a whirl next time I order.
18pct 1 month ago
@18pct Please do, and let me know if it hits you any differently than your average juice. Like I said in the video I may just not have a sensitivity to the WTAs but I know others do, so I'm quite curious as to how it may effect others.
VaporChase 1 month ago