All witnesses aside, there is exactly ONE (The Terry Proctor Video) video of the 08:30PM event. In it, the lights in the V-formation change position relative to each other like planes in formation would, NOT like lights attached to a single object. One piece of actual evidence, and it contradicts the single spacecraft theory.
That guy needs to watch that ufo documentary, "Out of the Blue" but then again, he is probably willingly ignorant. He doesn't want to know, he probably has made up his mind.
@blackadderthe4 Those were not flares. There were former military guys who knew about flares, and they said it was not flares. You obviously haven't seen "Out of the Blue" either. This documentary would make even the most stubborn skeptic become a believer, it should anyway.
“Mitch Stanley, 21, spends several nights a week in his backyard with a 10-inch telescope, exploring the night sky. …the telescope gave him 60 times the resolving power of his naked eye..... Mitch attempted to capture them in the scope. He succeeded, and the leading three lights fit in his field of vision. Linda asked what they were. "Planes," Mitch said.
h t t p (://) home.comcast.n e t(/~)tprinty/UFO/azconc.htm
The Phoenix Lights were sighted around 8:30 initially, and the air force didn't drop flares until around 10. Even when they attempted to recreated the event with flares, it was an epic fail.
So, basically what this skeptic is saying is that the more 3,500 commercial and military pilots who have reported their own UFO sightings aren't "trained observers.
1. No you have not solved the mystery of the Phoenix Lights. It takes a lot more than regurgitating other people's tired crap to make a case.
2. This is not a subject that can be mastered by watching YouTube videos. You have to read actual books. Remember books? "The Phoenix Lights" by Dr. Lynne D. Kitel is the best thing written on this subject.
3. Don't want to hear that balony "she wrote the book for money" This is an MD, married to an MD, who sat on her UFO footage for 3 years!
‘they would drop high-intensity flares, called Luu-2, made of either magnesium or cesium, Sullins said. The flares are suspended by a tiny parachute and take a long time to drop,
The planes completed their required runs and their time at the busy range was coming to a close. But the A-10s still had a bunch of flares on board, and Davis-Monthan doesn't let planes land with flares aboard.
h t t p://home.comcast.net/~tprinty/UFO/azflares.htm
" Mitch Stanley, 21, spends several nights a week in his backyard with a 10-inch telescope, exploring the night sky. …the telescope gave him 60 times the resolving power of his naked eye..... Mitch attempted to capture them in the scope. He succeeded, and the leading three lights fit in his field of vision. Linda asked what they were. "Planes," Mitch said. H t t p (://) home.comcast.n e t(/~)tprinty/UFO/azconc.htm
"is a weak argument based on denial" how come? There are several sources of objects in the sky in that area, from civil air traffic to military zones.
Mitch Stanley, 21.... nights a week in his backyard with a 10-inch telescope, . the telescope gave him 60 times the resolving power of his naked eye..... and the leading three lights fit in his field of vision. Linda asked what they were. "Planes," Mitch said. Source H t t p (://) home.comcast.n e t(/~)tprinty/UFO/azconc.htm
First I hear of this. Funny , the mayor or Phoenix later changed his story and admitted he and tons of others saw the UFO. Besides...there was daylight footage that leaked on an American TV station around that time (good luck finding it now)..and it sure didn't look like airplanes.
Besides this...there's plenty of evidence besides the heap of hoaxes and missidentitfications .
Examining some of the estimates made by some of the people involved can reveal how accurate eyewitness testimony is. Tim Ley and Mike Fortson both made estimations of the objects size, speed and altitude. However, what they estimate, when scrutinized, demonstrates they were not accurate at all. They made too many assumptions.
h t t p :// home.comcast. n e t /~tprinty/UFO/azacc.htm
This character McGaha seems to me to be a complete idiot. He is a true debunker. There is no amount of evidence that will change his stubborn mind. He'd say UFO's don't exist even if one landed in his front yard in broad daylight.
' even if one landed in his front yard in broad daylight' and the fact is one hasn't! So why do they not land on the White House lawn and annouce thenselves?
I checked this Link. And I guess u did not understand my question. But there s no room for discussion. Why? Because people like you try everything to discredit other People with open minds and different point of views. That was clear after you wrote the title to your Video. Nevertheless all I wanted to say is that a video and a link solves NOTHING! Peace!
"all I wanted to say is that a video and a link solves NOTHING!" wrong, it solves everything! Especially if you investigate the site further! If is obvious that it as a myth based on mistakes, if some cases outright lies! "open minds and different point of views" I have an open mind when there is evidence! But is not that open my brain has fallen out, I like to use it to think!
@blackadderthe4 nope! I guess u have to have the last word... Once again this Video solves nothing to me! Thats all I said. If u are not able to get this critism about this title u should calm down and think about the discussion you startet. I can't stand this so this will be my last answer. Feel free to have the last word once again. Peace!
@zchelle23 Feel free to have the last word once again" Thank you, I will do now! " Once again this Video solves nothing to me!" and i suspect you haven't looked at the link I sent you in any depth! Because if you read it and other info on the site it will leave you in no do0ubt that it's all about mistakes/hoaxes/scams and cons. Of course only right thinking people will come the correct conclusion! Other deluded people will say the "truth" has been suppressed by agents of the government!
Look! It's not that I want to believe that this lights came from outer space or what ever. But you shouldn't use the word solve if there is somebody telling something on television. And Mitch! Who the heck is Mitch?
"Mitch Stanley, 21, spends several nights a week in his backyard with a 10-inch telescope, exploring the night sky. the telescope gave him 60 times the resolving power of his naked eye..... Mitch attempted to capture them in the scope. He succeeded, and the leading three lights fit in his field of vision. Linda asked what they were. "Planes," Mitch said." Source h t t p (://) home.comcast.n e t(/~)tprinty/UFO/azconc.htm
All witnesses aside, there is exactly ONE (The Terry Proctor Video) video of the 08:30PM event. In it, the lights in the V-formation change position relative to each other like planes in formation would, NOT like lights attached to a single object. One piece of actual evidence, and it contradicts the single spacecraft theory.
str009 5 months ago
That guy needs to watch that ufo documentary, "Out of the Blue" but then again, he is probably willingly ignorant. He doesn't want to know, he probably has made up his mind.
soulwinnerism 8 months ago
@soulwinnerism
'he probably has made up his mind' yes because that's where the evidence has taken him!
blackadderthe4 8 months ago
@blackadderthe4 Those were not flares. There were former military guys who knew about flares, and they said it was not flares. You obviously haven't seen "Out of the Blue" either. This documentary would make even the most stubborn skeptic become a believer, it should anyway.
soulwinnerism 8 months ago
@soulwinnerism
“Mitch Stanley, 21, spends several nights a week in his backyard with a 10-inch telescope, exploring the night sky. …the telescope gave him 60 times the resolving power of his naked eye..... Mitch attempted to capture them in the scope. He succeeded, and the leading three lights fit in his field of vision. Linda asked what they were. "Planes," Mitch said.
h t t p (://) home.comcast.n e t(/~)tprinty/UFO/azconc.htm
blackadderthe4 8 months ago
The Phoenix Lights were sighted around 8:30 initially, and the air force didn't drop flares until around 10. Even when they attempted to recreated the event with flares, it was an epic fail.
drwinslow70 1 year ago
@drwinslow70 May I refer you to
h t t p ://home.comcast.net/~tprinty/UFO/UFO.htm
for the real truth. And how do you know the airforce recreated the event?
blackadderthe4 1 year ago
So, basically what this skeptic is saying is that the more 3,500 commercial and military pilots who have reported their own UFO sightings aren't "trained observers.
drwinslow70 1 year ago
1. No you have not solved the mystery of the Phoenix Lights. It takes a lot more than regurgitating other people's tired crap to make a case.
2. This is not a subject that can be mastered by watching YouTube videos. You have to read actual books. Remember books? "The Phoenix Lights" by Dr. Lynne D. Kitel is the best thing written on this subject.
3. Don't want to hear that balony "she wrote the book for money" This is an MD, married to an MD, who sat on her UFO footage for 3 years!
tommytomted44 1 year ago
@tommytomted44
An MD does that mean a Medical Doctor, enough said. May I direct you to this website for real investigations
h t t p ://home.comcast.net/~tprinty/UFO/UFO.htm
blackadderthe4 1 year ago
@maziar1976
I refer you to my previous answers and the link to the website!
blackadderthe4 1 year ago
@maziar1976
‘they would drop high-intensity flares, called Luu-2, made of either magnesium or cesium, Sullins said. The flares are suspended by a tiny parachute and take a long time to drop,
The planes completed their required runs and their time at the busy range was coming to a close. But the A-10s still had a bunch of flares on board, and Davis-Monthan doesn't let planes land with flares aboard.
h t t p://home.comcast.net/~tprinty/UFO/azflares.htm
So there you have it, planes and flares!
blackadderthe4 1 year ago
@maziar1976
Well I am a denier! Because of sites like this!
" Mitch Stanley, 21, spends several nights a week in his backyard with a 10-inch telescope, exploring the night sky. …the telescope gave him 60 times the resolving power of his naked eye..... Mitch attempted to capture them in the scope. He succeeded, and the leading three lights fit in his field of vision. Linda asked what they were. "Planes," Mitch said. H t t p (://) home.comcast.n e t(/~)tprinty/UFO/azconc.htm
blackadderthe4 1 year ago
@maziar1976
'An expert laboratory has tested the Phonix lights' and which laboratory would that be? Links to the evidence please.
blackadderthe4 1 year ago
bullshit!!!!!!
pidza21 1 year ago
@pidza21
" bullshit!!!!!!" my that's an intelligent statement to make! And what/how do you base it on. Obviously not any evidence!
blackadderthe4 1 year ago
@blackadderthe4
yes that character that Larry's interviewing..is a weak argument based on denial.
pidza21 1 year ago
@pidza21
"is a weak argument based on denial" how come? There are several sources of objects in the sky in that area, from civil air traffic to military zones.
Mitch Stanley, 21.... nights a week in his backyard with a 10-inch telescope, . the telescope gave him 60 times the resolving power of his naked eye..... and the leading three lights fit in his field of vision. Linda asked what they were. "Planes," Mitch said. Source H t t p (://) home.comcast.n e t(/~)tprinty/UFO/azconc.htm
blackadderthe4 1 year ago
@blackadderthe4
First I hear of this. Funny , the mayor or Phoenix later changed his story and admitted he and tons of others saw the UFO. Besides...there was daylight footage that leaked on an American TV station around that time (good luck finding it now)..and it sure didn't look like airplanes.
Besides this...there's plenty of evidence besides the heap of hoaxes and missidentitfications .
pidza21 1 year ago
@pidza21
Examining some of the estimates made by some of the people involved can reveal how accurate eyewitness testimony is. Tim Ley and Mike Fortson both made estimations of the objects size, speed and altitude. However, what they estimate, when scrutinized, demonstrates they were not accurate at all. They made too many assumptions.
h t t p :// home.comcast. n e t /~tprinty/UFO/azacc.htm
blackadderthe4 1 year ago
This character McGaha seems to me to be a complete idiot. He is a true debunker. There is no amount of evidence that will change his stubborn mind. He'd say UFO's don't exist even if one landed in his front yard in broad daylight.
someoldladi 1 year ago
@someoldladi
' even if one landed in his front yard in broad daylight' and the fact is one hasn't! So why do they not land on the White House lawn and annouce thenselves?
blackadderthe4 1 year ago
I checked this Link. And I guess u did not understand my question. But there s no room for discussion. Why? Because people like you try everything to discredit other People with open minds and different point of views. That was clear after you wrote the title to your Video. Nevertheless all I wanted to say is that a video and a link solves NOTHING! Peace!
zchelle23 1 year ago
@zchelle23
"all I wanted to say is that a video and a link solves NOTHING!" wrong, it solves everything! Especially if you investigate the site further! If is obvious that it as a myth based on mistakes, if some cases outright lies! "open minds and different point of views" I have an open mind when there is evidence! But is not that open my brain has fallen out, I like to use it to think!
blackadderthe4 1 year ago
@blackadderthe4 nope! I guess u have to have the last word... Once again this Video solves nothing to me! Thats all I said. If u are not able to get this critism about this title u should calm down and think about the discussion you startet. I can't stand this so this will be my last answer. Feel free to have the last word once again. Peace!
zchelle23 1 year ago
@zchelle23 Feel free to have the last word once again" Thank you, I will do now! " Once again this Video solves nothing to me!" and i suspect you haven't looked at the link I sent you in any depth! Because if you read it and other info on the site it will leave you in no do0ubt that it's all about mistakes/hoaxes/scams and cons. Of course only right thinking people will come the correct conclusion! Other deluded people will say the "truth" has been suppressed by agents of the government!
blackadderthe4 1 year ago
Look! It's not that I want to believe that this lights came from outer space or what ever. But you shouldn't use the word solve if there is somebody telling something on television. And Mitch! Who the heck is Mitch?
zchelle23 1 year ago
@zchelle23
"Who the heck is Mitch?" well I bet you didn't check out the link I sent! Because you would find out!
blackadderthe4 1 year ago
That's all? This one solves nothing!
zchelle23 1 year ago
@zchelle23
How come? There is a lot of traffic out there!
"Mitch Stanley, 21, spends several nights a week in his backyard with a 10-inch telescope, exploring the night sky. the telescope gave him 60 times the resolving power of his naked eye..... Mitch attempted to capture them in the scope. He succeeded, and the leading three lights fit in his field of vision. Linda asked what they were. "Planes," Mitch said." Source h t t p (://) home.comcast.n e t(/~)tprinty/UFO/azconc.htm
blackadderthe4 1 year ago