I thought this was the best scene in the movie. I'm an American and spent some time in the Middle East. Despite at least somewhat understanding both sides, I still think the whole conflict is crazy. Sorry, not trying to be insensitive. But seriously, it amazes me how this conflict has been going on for centuries with no end in sight. All this entitlement talk, etc. Crazy. Have fun killing each other there, if you really feel it's all that important, I guess.
Is it wrong that I agree with the Palestinian here? Your country IS everything. If I - as an Englishman - had my nation robbed from me, I would do anything to get it back. It's rare that views so close to my heart should come out of the mouth of someone I see as representing a bad element in the Arab world.
Much respect to Metwally, Bana and Spielberg. One of the greatest movies ever made :)
@Wargoat6 The individual doesn't matter as much as the collective notion of a homeland. That's what the trendy Commie-Anarchist crowd doesn't get. They want to give us a Utopia by destroying everything we love. They bleat on and on about how they stand for our rights whilst happily plotting to remove all notions of nationality and culture. I'd take a PLO member over some student Anarchist any day of the week.
@louthegiantcookie Perhaps, but you collectivists use the things you love as instruments of murder against foreigners & tools of oppression against your own people. You aren't happy unless everyone is forcibly shaped into a mob thinking one uniform thought. Hipocrisy & atrocity are just means to that end.
Being human isn't good enough for collectivists; you have to be special branches of humans who are better than everyone else by virtue of whose crotch you were yanked from.
@sugarhitman A historian once called the Arab-Israeli conflict a 'conflict between absolute right and absolute right'. Both nations have legitimate claims to land within the area. But I truly sympathise with neither party, not really.
@sugarhitman you are retarded...stop with all of this religious homeland bullshit! live where you want, make that your home. borders change but its so freaking stupid to say that a piece of land belongs to a certain religion. The Jews used to have control of the Holy Land, yes, but so did the Arabs (and the Romans for that matter, should they also be making a claim?) you act like you cant live in happiness without Jerusalem and its complete crap
@cattman05 The Jews not only controlled Judea, their cultural, ethnic identity are indigenous to Judea. That land is back into the hands of it's true native population...the Jews.
@sugarhitman you know what? fuck you man. it doesnt matter who the hell controlled it. youd think that the jews of all people would know that pacing human beings in camps is wrong. there is no other way around it. yes, the holocaust was one of the worst things humanity has ever done, but two evils dont make a right and why people like you cant understand that i just dont know
@cattman05 Oh, you mean after the Arabs failed to exterminate the Jews in 48, AFTER the Jews practically begged them to stay (like those 160,000 Arab Israelis who became free citizens), choosing war and terrorism instead? Hmmm wonder why the Arabs were murdering Jews before the creation of Israel. Do you know? I ask because their are sooo many excuses as to why.
Israel didn't steal any land, British owned Palestine and the UN approved giving it to the Jews. Many muslims (ex-palestinians) live in Israel in peace. Only antisemitic islamists complain about it and starting creating a ghetto on their own. The wall of Isreal is made to avoid Palestinians to enter, not Israelies to fleed. Palestinians attack civilians, Israel army retaliate on fighters, who's the terrorist ? Certainly not Israel. They won wars, gained territory, get over it!
@toocoolforu Yes, you say so much but I can watch hundreds of videos on YouTube of Palestinian Children shot. Just like everyone cried over Jessica Lynch but not the other black women caught with her(yes she was part of a group). The same way the value of a life is relative to its origin.
What the law states is not the point of this conversation in the movie. Its about how when you mistreat people in this way, they will react.
And more often that not, you won't like their reaction.
@yourkidkabaap Israel citizens and gov don't want children to get shot, it's clearly a crazy soldier work or collateral damage. What would Israel gain to kill children ? This is very sad when an innocent child dies. The Hamas however target citizens, that's the main difference. A lot of ex palestinian are now proud israeli citizens. It's not western's fault if the UN n Israel purchased their land, either by vote, or by force when they attacked israel. Of course this situation must chance though.
@toocoolforu Google Ross Kemp's visit to Palestine. You'll see how 5 year old kids, who see their friends get shot and killed have developed terrorist mentalities at such a young age. The world is not so black and white when it comes to right and wrong. There is a large Grey area that both the Israeli's and the Hamas exploit. Im from India, where there is this big fight over Kashmir which results in attacks regularly. And the Kashmiris, just like this guy, only want a place to call their own.
@toocoolforu Google Ross Kemp's visit to Palestine. You'll see how 5 year old kids, who see their friends get shot and killed have developed terrorist mentalities at such a young age. The world is not so black and white when it comes to right and wrong. There is a large Grey area that both the Israeli's and the Hamas exploit. Im from India, where there is this big fight over Kashmir which results in attacks regularly. And the Kashmiris, just like this guy, only want a place to call their own.
you can never get back what was stolen in the first place, palestine was never a country,never a nation like the rest of middleeast it is just made up, Iraq, Jordan, lebenon, syria, iran, all made up. borders drwan on shifting sands. Israel will be there in one form or another. palestine fiction of imaganation
@felinekiller1 WHAT RU SMOKING HABIBI? PALESTINE WAS A BRITISH MANDATE, UNDER "UN" IT WAS VOTED TO BE PARTITION TO JEWISH AND ARAB COUNTRY. ARABS DID NOT LIKE THAT SO THEY TRIED TO FIGHT AND LOST TO TINY JEWS OF PALESTINE. WHAT INVASION JEWS HAD A COUNTRY THERE SINCE 3000 YEARS AGO. ARABS ARE FROM HIJAZ AND HAROUN GO STUDY HISTORY
I thought this was the best scene in the movie. I'm an American and spent some time in the Middle East. Despite at least somewhat understanding both sides, I still think the whole conflict is crazy. Sorry, not trying to be insensitive. But seriously, it amazes me how this conflict has been going on for centuries with no end in sight. All this entitlement talk, etc. Crazy. Have fun killing each other there, if you really feel it's all that important, I guess.
archipelago93 1 week ago 2
free Palestine !
sopocianin79 1 week ago
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Axelv07 1 month ago
awwwwwwwkwarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrd
ImHotForTheMostPart 3 months ago
what's the name of the song in the background towards the end of the clip?
Kenddrick 5 months ago
@Kenddrick i found it myself lol its Al Green - Let's stay together
Kenddrick 5 months ago
Is it wrong that I agree with the Palestinian here? Your country IS everything. If I - as an Englishman - had my nation robbed from me, I would do anything to get it back. It's rare that views so close to my heart should come out of the mouth of someone I see as representing a bad element in the Arab world.
Much respect to Metwally, Bana and Spielberg. One of the greatest movies ever made :)
louthegiantcookie 5 months ago
@louthegiantcookie All around the world, a man's a man and he'll resent getting pushed around.
Wargoat6 2 months ago
@Wargoat6 The individual doesn't matter as much as the collective notion of a homeland. That's what the trendy Commie-Anarchist crowd doesn't get. They want to give us a Utopia by destroying everything we love. They bleat on and on about how they stand for our rights whilst happily plotting to remove all notions of nationality and culture. I'd take a PLO member over some student Anarchist any day of the week.
louthegiantcookie 2 months ago
@louthegiantcookie Perhaps, but you collectivists use the things you love as instruments of murder against foreigners & tools of oppression against your own people. You aren't happy unless everyone is forcibly shaped into a mob thinking one uniform thought. Hipocrisy & atrocity are just means to that end.
Being human isn't good enough for collectivists; you have to be special branches of humans who are better than everyone else by virtue of whose crotch you were yanked from.
Theomite 1 month ago
@Theomite Am I a bad man? Do you hate me? Because I love you. People like you, you make my life complete.
louthegiantcookie 1 month ago
@louthegiantcookie As long as its something other than trendy Commie-Anarchists. They're almost as bad as hipsters.
Theomite 1 month ago
@Theomite Ah, yes. The 'trendy' Communists. All the glamour, none of the brains. I've known too many such people, my friend :)
louthegiantcookie 1 month ago
@louthegiantcookie
to have your nation robbed from you you need to have a nation to begin with,Palestine didn't exist,ever
Nubiex7 2 months ago
@Nubiex7 it existed,it just wasn't recognized by the UN...and the UN is not the end all be all of what actually happens in the world
cattman05 2 weeks ago
@cattman05
when did it exist smartypants?
Nubiex7 2 weeks ago
@louthegiantcookie So that means you sympathize with the Jews who had their country stolen from them by the Europeans and Arabs?...right?
sugarhitman 1 month ago
@sugarhitman A historian once called the Arab-Israeli conflict a 'conflict between absolute right and absolute right'. Both nations have legitimate claims to land within the area. But I truly sympathise with neither party, not really.
louthegiantcookie 1 month ago
@louthegiantcookie Yeah, but only one group really has a real claim to that land...the Jews who are the true natives of Judea.
sugarhitman 1 month ago
@sugarhitman you are retarded...stop with all of this religious homeland bullshit! live where you want, make that your home. borders change but its so freaking stupid to say that a piece of land belongs to a certain religion. The Jews used to have control of the Holy Land, yes, but so did the Arabs (and the Romans for that matter, should they also be making a claim?) you act like you cant live in happiness without Jerusalem and its complete crap
cattman05 2 weeks ago
@cattman05 The Jews not only controlled Judea, their cultural, ethnic identity are indigenous to Judea. That land is back into the hands of it's true native population...the Jews.
sugarhitman 2 weeks ago
@sugarhitman you know what? fuck you man. it doesnt matter who the hell controlled it. youd think that the jews of all people would know that pacing human beings in camps is wrong. there is no other way around it. yes, the holocaust was one of the worst things humanity has ever done, but two evils dont make a right and why people like you cant understand that i just dont know
cattman05 1 week ago
@cattman05 Oh, you mean after the Arabs failed to exterminate the Jews in 48, AFTER the Jews practically begged them to stay (like those 160,000 Arab Israelis who became free citizens), choosing war and terrorism instead? Hmmm wonder why the Arabs were murdering Jews before the creation of Israel. Do you know? I ask because their are sooo many excuses as to why.
Maybe they just hate Jews.
So, do you have a home?
sugarhitman 1 week ago
@cattman05 Do you have a home?
sugarhitman 1 week ago
U don't know what it is not to have a Home!!
Home is everything!! ...
bioknock 5 months ago
Home is everything!
bioknock 5 months ago
Israel didn't steal any land, British owned Palestine and the UN approved giving it to the Jews. Many muslims (ex-palestinians) live in Israel in peace. Only antisemitic islamists complain about it and starting creating a ghetto on their own. The wall of Isreal is made to avoid Palestinians to enter, not Israelies to fleed. Palestinians attack civilians, Israel army retaliate on fighters, who's the terrorist ? Certainly not Israel. They won wars, gained territory, get over it!
toocoolforu 5 months ago
@toocoolforu Yes, you say so much but I can watch hundreds of videos on YouTube of Palestinian Children shot. Just like everyone cried over Jessica Lynch but not the other black women caught with her(yes she was part of a group). The same way the value of a life is relative to its origin.
What the law states is not the point of this conversation in the movie. Its about how when you mistreat people in this way, they will react.
And more often that not, you won't like their reaction.
yourkidkabaap 5 months ago
@yourkidkabaap Israel citizens and gov don't want children to get shot, it's clearly a crazy soldier work or collateral damage. What would Israel gain to kill children ? This is very sad when an innocent child dies. The Hamas however target citizens, that's the main difference. A lot of ex palestinian are now proud israeli citizens. It's not western's fault if the UN n Israel purchased their land, either by vote, or by force when they attacked israel. Of course this situation must chance though.
toocoolforu 5 months ago
@toocoolforu Google Ross Kemp's visit to Palestine. You'll see how 5 year old kids, who see their friends get shot and killed have developed terrorist mentalities at such a young age. The world is not so black and white when it comes to right and wrong. There is a large Grey area that both the Israeli's and the Hamas exploit. Im from India, where there is this big fight over Kashmir which results in attacks regularly. And the Kashmiris, just like this guy, only want a place to call their own.
yourkidkabaap 5 months ago
@toocoolforu Google Ross Kemp's visit to Palestine. You'll see how 5 year old kids, who see their friends get shot and killed have developed terrorist mentalities at such a young age. The world is not so black and white when it comes to right and wrong. There is a large Grey area that both the Israeli's and the Hamas exploit. Im from India, where there is this big fight over Kashmir which results in attacks regularly. And the Kashmiris, just like this guy, only want a place to call their own.
yourkidkabaap 5 months ago
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PoliticalBoondocks 6 months ago
neither i'm israeli nor palestinian, but i feel this scene captures all about the conflict, great work by both the actors...look at the intensity.
navdeep88thakur 6 months ago
you can never get back what was stolen in the first place, palestine was never a country,never a nation like the rest of middleeast it is just made up, Iraq, Jordan, lebenon, syria, iran, all made up. borders drwan on shifting sands. Israel will be there in one form or another. palestine fiction of imaganation
freelebenon 6 months ago
@freelebenon and how would you explain jews invasion of palestine in 1946??
felinekiller1 5 months ago
@felinekiller1 WHAT RU SMOKING HABIBI? PALESTINE WAS A BRITISH MANDATE, UNDER "UN" IT WAS VOTED TO BE PARTITION TO JEWISH AND ARAB COUNTRY. ARABS DID NOT LIKE THAT SO THEY TRIED TO FIGHT AND LOST TO TINY JEWS OF PALESTINE. WHAT INVASION JEWS HAD A COUNTRY THERE SINCE 3000 YEARS AGO. ARABS ARE FROM HIJAZ AND HAROUN GO STUDY HISTORY
freelebenon 5 months ago
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MrSpemat 6 months ago
It absolutely is, this part touches my heart!
thejackalmilano 7 months ago
This scene moved me. Eric Bana and Omar Metwally did great jobs!
Hiiri86 7 months ago
Damn Jews always gotta be so hostile.
dratsabREVIEWS 9 months ago
I love that actor - Omar Metwally. The guy who was leaning against the wall. He is an incredible actor. <3
NataliexK 10 months ago 6
@NataliexK He absolutely is!
Hiiri86 7 months ago
@Hiiri86 Glad you agree :D
NataliexK 7 months ago
Thanks so much for uploading this. What a powerful, memorable scene.
meshzzizk 1 year ago