Episode 5: iPhone Game Development

[DanishGreatDane]

I have the idea, art (animation, sprites) and music... i just need skilled programmer

[scrrashid]

Excellent advice. Many thanks.

[TheHackerEyes]

thank you a lot, you were honest an clear, thanx again :)

[HBCult]

How long does an iphone game development process take on average?

[MarioBrothers120]

@PangeaSoftwareInc dang it!!! *sniff* :,(

[MarioBrothers120]

@PangeaSoftwareInc

Can you make apps on windows?

[PangeaSoftwareInc]

@MarioBrothers120 Nope, you have to have a Mac to develop for iOS.

[lask7117]

@PangeaSoftwareInc Oh I am also pretty sure you can use the unity game engine to create apps on Windows but that is just a guess...

[wrlzz]

@PangeaSoftwareInc how about the Torque Game Dev Software? Or is it for iOS only too?

[101MUDman101]

thanks for the tutorial, I'm making a large scale MUD game in c++, come check out my channel

[SPcopyright]

wait, you guys did cro-mag rally? NO WAY! We have that game on our school's REALLY old Mac's

[SPcopyright]

can you guys suggest how I can get a mac for little or no money? I don't have much of it. Also, can you suggest learning materials for beginners or programmers who are going from windows phone 7 programming to iphone programming?

[spartant22]

What do you use to create your animation/sprites ?

[PangeaSoftwareInc]

@spartant22 2D animation is all done in the code since there is very little 2D animation in our games. The sprites are all done in Photoshop.

[wasserbrunner]

Thanks for the help! My first game just made it into the app store! Swift Hit!

[slimetcake]

Is it possible to develop advanced games for Iphone by using windows?

[HardCoreProgrammer1]

could i learn C and objective C by myself? or is it better with an instructor?

another quesion!

why do people say that if you want to be an iphone developer, you must first be an experienced developer?

ps. i learn now, dot.net, java and webmaster courses

[futuremtt]

The audio in your video is panned all the way to the left and it sounds kind of awkward on headphones.

[dahDougieBoy]

I found your chapter in iPhone Game Projects very interesting and I hope you will make some iOS (or mobile) game development tech videos.

[djcondra]

Thanks for a great video!

[DORC101]

I have a question, how do you update your app (bug fixes.. etc) could you possibly put up a tutorial?

[angelrocha916]

Hey all you need is credit card to buy the sdk right or do you need someting els

[SeedsCSB]

Thanks for sharing. I'm getting ready to launch an app Thant my partner and I have developed, and the hints on the screen shots was great help.  Thanks. Gtapp.com

[ivaneduardo747]

@SeedsCSB Nice website. Reminds me of playing with flash like 3 years ago

[ivaneduardo747]

@SeedsCSB BTW cool app

[Xdmxz]

hey i want to esign apps because i think is interesting but i dont have mac but i´m going to buy one ande i don´t know c or c++

where could i learn or what should i do?????

[ivaneduardo747]

This is great. Thanks!

[n00ster]

Thank you for this video!

[savemyplaylist]

very nice video, thanks

[ohdaush]

Hey, i have a doubt, hahaha! I have made tons of games using flash as2, as3, as3 class!

Some are goods like flashbeat ( 25k user every month in facebook ).

So, is hard to move from as3 and class to obj c? I have bought Programing in Obj C and Iphone 3.0 Dev. books and i found it kind of strange.

Im afraid to spend $ 2.000 for a MAC and dont get at leats $2.000 back, i dont want to be millionare, but pays my bills and the new MAC if i bought one!!

[iphoneshareorg]

#OMG nice game found at iphoneshare,org

[knight11ind]

where do you start to make an iphone/ipod touch game app?

[tehepicasian]

Objective-C runs circles around C++?

*FacePalm*

[PangeaSoftwareInc]

@tehepicasian Yes, big-time. C++ has always pretty much sucked, but Objective-C is an object oriented version of C that actually brings some power to the table. C++ doesn't do anything that you couldn't do in straight C - it adds no functionality to the language whereas Obj-C certainly does.

[tehepicasian]

@PangeaSoftwareInc But what platform can Objective-C run on? Only Mac, iPhone/iPod Touch and iPad. Also, (if I'm wrong on this, please say) I would say that there are more resources for a newbie programmer to learn C++. For me, it is easier to learn things online, rather than sit down and read a book. antiRTFM has helped tremendously with his tutorials on the C++ language. Don't get me wrong, I don't hate Obj-C, I just hate the monopolistic way Apple is.

[MrBottomy]

@tehepicasian Objective-C can run on most platforms that support GCC, though whether they have any libraries to actually make it somewhat useful I'm not sure. You're right there are more resources for the programmer learning C++, but that's just because there's more C++ programmers (well that's the reason why I think it is). But since Objective-C is just a superset of C, that means you can learn straight C (and there's just as many C resources as there are C++, if not more)

[MrBottomy]

@tehepicasian (continued from above, hope it worked right lol) and then just pick up some Objective-C book and learn the new features Objective-C brings. And since the programmer already knows C, it should only take them a day if not less to learn Objective-C. Though personally even though I know Obj-C I prefer coding in straight C, I dislike OOP in general, but that's just me :P.

[walkietalkie74]

@PangeaSoftwareInc: "C++ doesn't do anything that you couldn't do in straight C". Not true. With all due respect, you don't know what you're talking about. Template programming, for example, is something you cannot do in straight C, because it has to do with the type system of the language. C++ is an object-oriented language,you should clarify what you mean with "can do". Technically, you can certainly use your legs to travel the world, but I am pretty sure that using an airplane is much better.

[PangeaSoftwareInc]

@walkietalkie74 Actually C++ doesnt do anything different than C - it's just got different syntax. For example, Obj-C it does automatic NIL checking - an added feature of the language that C does not do. Similarly, Pascal has built-in support for strings and array bounds checking - C does not. Those are examples of things that a language adds. C++ doesn't add anything like that to C. There's nothing you can do in C++ that you can't do in C. It's just a change in syntax.

[walkietalkie74]

@PangeaSoftwareInc Again: absolutely not. It's clear to me: you don't know C++ enough well. It's not only a matter of syntax; C++ is a *different* language, with a *different* philosophy, *different* semantics and purpose than C. It's not only a simple extension of a previous language. Besides that object oriented programming deeply affects the way programmers approach problems and solve them, C++ actually ADDS new concepts, like template programming, already mentioned.

[PangeaSoftwareInc]

@walkietalkie74 Sorry, but you're getting language and functionality mixed up. The only thing different about C++ over C is syntax. The language is still C - just wrapped up in classes and such. It's still just C under all of that and you still have to write all the same code you would have otherwise. Obj-C adds things to the language that simply don't exist in regular C. Garbage collection, autorelease pools, nil checking, automatic type checking, etc. These are all new to the C language.

[PangeaSoftwareInc]

@walkietalkie74 Philosophy and semantics do not bring any new capabilities to a language. Changing a function to a class doesn't change the code in that class. You're still going to have to do "if (pointer == nil)" in C or C++. But in Obj-C you don't have to because the language adds new capabilities. C++ is just C with classes, but the classes don't add any new capabilities that were not there before. I'd challenge you to name just 1 new capability in C++ that isn't just class syntax.

[w0mblemania]

@tehepicasian Yeah, it does actually. In comparison, C++ is over-featured and bloated.

Use whatever language you like, but for OOP, I much prefer ObjC.

[BigBouncyBalls]

It's pathetic that u can't use a pc to develop iPhone apps even Microsoft are less anal than that!

[funnyvidsfest]

i really want to develope apps but i need a mac i might be getting one soon but i want to start learning coding and stuff any good vedios that have really helped you please tell me.

[princesshelena12]

@north92530

It's display screen is High Def currently. I mean, they could only add so many new features to keep it at a decent price

Most of ppl watching this vid don't have the cash to acquire Apples latest iPhone, it's just going to be so pricey

But I realized on Apples twitter Sunday they are giving away a few thousand iPhone 4gs. Oh and, this will take you to Apples contest page copy n paste

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Oh yeah, the registration code for the second part is FACEBOOK5474

[Thedirtyc0w]

is there any way to do it on windows?

[darthcabbagevids]

:D i have a question...

For animating sprites for a game what program should i use?

[penpvdbs]

I just saw your iFinger app. Looks awsome unfortunately I don't have a Iphone!!! Can these apps also be tested on PC??

[asboobsred]

ok give some tips how do we start to make an app then

[doublesob]

As we can see lot of people are interested in game development ,and neverming in what, mobile or computer games

[rathodkk]

We would love to know which of these new features are finally included so developers can start takinng advantage of their presence in all the ingenious ways that they have done in the past. At EDUmobile. ORG - our iPhone Learning Course, that has over 100 students currently undergoing iPhone Development training, would try and incorporate as many of these new features as possible.

[DvdOwens]

nice video!

[Tinytw]

Awesome video, thanks for sharing the information.

[Jonathan0King]

I bought a mac just to develop apps!

[TheTeckAddict]

@Jonathan0King Me too!!!

[undeadgamer0]

@Jonathan0King It is the only thing they're good for really...

[ivaneduardo747]

@Jonathan0King Me too! Actually I'm writing this on it right now (oh, yeah!). Anyway I'm still learning Object Oriented programing and Objective C. I'm using Stanford's CS106A course available on the iTunes U. Also I'm planning to use iOS Development (or something like that) form Stanford too (make sure you download the latest one).

[DORC101]

@Jonathan0King lol, Im hopefully getting mine soon! for the same reason!

[lhyx1990]

@Jonathan0King me tooooo!!!!!

[zaidalnaib]

I am computer engineer and Ive just been using this new world iPhone device since like 4 months ago, I am really interested to know and learn about iPhone programming, and for the first time, I found you sir speaking something interested to me. I hope that I can find someone to put me on the right direction like books or even a course, I am willing to study and learn this.

[zero16lives]

Great video!!! The thing you said about iPhone/Mac programming being the same reminds me of XNA. It's literally nearly the same code for Windows/Xbox 360/Zune. I wish that I had a Mac or could get the alternative working so I could try hand at programming for the iPhone/iPod touch.

[iPodAppAndGameHelp]

The Alternative is to create a hackintosh.

It seems like XNA, but its not. .Net is easy for anybody with intelligence or programming background to learn. Objective-C is not. I would have to say I prefer windows development to mac development. Simply said, it is very hard to create an iPhone Game if you don't have a Mac programming background.

Remember, that is just me, others have different opinions

[BinaryReader]

i agree

[dontbleedthadalo]

What website is good for finding really specific tech questions? Such as, if I were making images in Photoshop, how to I get the image and not the whole bounding canvas (the extra white space) exported to the Xcode database or ... something?

[oberning1]

when are you going to have more videos?

[PangeaSoftwareInc]

Episode 6 is done and ready to go as soon as Apple approves our latest app: "The Finger"

[oberning1]

When are you going to have more videos about your games and if you want to develop applications for the iPhone.

[asmeurer]

You really hit the money with the screen shot thing. I have seen apps where every single screen shot is a menu or a title screen! Usually, these apps end up being really cruddy in the game play when I download them (these are free games).

Also, one thing that you didn't mention that I think helps is having a light version of your app. Quite a few people (including me) only download free apps unless they *know* that a paid app will be good. But then, even Pangea needs to learn this better.

[dvdrothy]

im 15 years old and i really would like to make iphone programs... games... i dont care about getting money.. i just want to create beautiful games that people enjoy playing..... i just dont have any idea how to start, where to get the developing program and how i should do it actually xD

i just know thath i really have to do it! please help me

lg

[thespoonage]

look up: iphone sdk

check out some books for development too

[sary2411sader]

the best book for development by far is "Beginning iPhone Development: Exploring the iPhone SDK"...

look it up on amazon.

[SeriousIlya]

Start off with the basics as usual.

Preferably programing basics - if you already have a certain knowledge in graphic software, or have creative potential, then you might find it easier to design your game and present ideas.

Also have a look at the basics of game-play (in general), eg. What makes an RPG game, Balance, etc.

Then you can get some programs and start coding once you have learned some techniques.

If it sounds like too much, it is better than just sitting and doing nothing

[GNSstudios]

Don't get a program to do your work. That is lame.

Learn how to program it yourself. Try starting with Python if you're not good at this kinda stuff. If it seems pretty easy try out c++

[michaelw352]

PLEASE YOUR KILLING ME!MAKE AT LEAST OTTO MATTIC FOR LG DARE FROOM VERIZON WIRELESS!please

[Fadoosh12]

Thank You Mr.Greenstone You Gave Me Hope To Restart Programing On My iPhone ;)

[MooCowFuryDeveloper]

Mr greenstone, you are my hero, i love all your game and i hope i can make games like yours soon.

[CasperBHansen]

Excellent video, thank you for sharing this information with us :)

[jamessnee1]

is there any chance that the original Bugdom will be ported to the iPhone? I have already bought Bugdom 2, Nanosaur 2, Billy Frontier and Enigmo!

[Rupee29]

The original bugdom was made with REALLY old software. But if the models were remade in a new format, that would be awesome! It would be a bestselling ipod/ iphone game! :)

[shortperson1026]

Sadly I'm using Windows. When I get a Mac I hope to program for the iPhone :)

[mrares00]

great video!!

[Braylonsds]

I really liked your video. Youtube can be a great asset for you. If you need any help getting your video exposed i use a site called Tubeviews . Net It has really done wonders for me, Keep in touch

keep up the good work

[nanosaur4ever]

nice.

just wonderin'

r u making Pangea Arcade for the iPhone?

[crazyzach5]

you should make a root beer bounce like root beer tapper and tapper

[McKaners]

Thanks Mr. Greenstone! Keep up the good work!

[GrendelKhanTSU]

Great tips! thank you. :D love enigmo btw. ^_^

I read elsewhere that took 5000 downloads a day to make Top 100 (as of March 2009) ... is that correct?

[jfbomber80]

Great Video, all app developers should watch this.