the jews destroyed it they hated it because they could not portray their lies into the world if this library existed fuck them for ever they are destroying the world today and they always did!!!!
Carl Sagan - "Our collective free time needs to shift as much as possible to education. Whether you're a young student or finished school long ago, get out to the library whenever you can and work hard to learn everything you can about this world. Each individual and society will benefit from being able to solve more problems and make better decisions. Education is an amazing discovery process that repays you endlessly."
The destruction of the library, greatest loss of knowledge in human history. Truly, I feel cheated, I should be living on a different planet right now....
Christ said that this world won't last forever. He did not say that the quest for knowledge was bad but implicitly revealed it is in vain.so lets use our intelligence to know more and more but without forgetting that truth.
@n64wilbert I know what you mean & I don't disrespect people who practice religions, but the moment religion goes beyond personal practice & enters the government, education, public, it causes problems.
@koniditsa They had no part in the destruction of the library. Romans, Muslims and Christians bear the quilt for this terrible crime against the progress of human knowledge.
@koniditsa Wow you were an aggressive one, well i am an atheist and i read tons of history. Does that answer your question? And your aggression shows your insecurity and how you feel like everyone is trying to fight you, your loneliness makes you want to belong to some group and have firm and some extreme opinions so you do not have to feel that to some empty feeling of not knowing and being alone in the world. You choose to be a jew-hater, poor choice man. I feel sorry for you.
@Ryalnotch reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee go fuck yourself you fucking clown, it shows how ignorant u are,,,atheist hahhahahahahah go through a cosmo magazine and ejaculate all over it,u fucking low life,,,,,and by the way GREEKS DONT HAVE INSECURITES,u insignificant scum race, i hope in the after life the DEVIL WILL BE PUSHING YOUR SHIT-IN.
@koniditsa The true nature of a Christian reveals itself. Lets pretend there was a god and that we died, would you think he would allow you a man filled with hate, spewing nasty things over the internet just to try to make someone feel bad and up to no good into heaven or me a decent guy who are nice to people just b/c choose to and filled with love, working for free to help the poor just so i can help my fellow man. If you were God, who would you let in? The theist(you) or the atheist(me).
@mrx342 chosen people the jews,,,hahahahahahaha good one,,,if they were the chosen why are they killing inocent palestinians.my friend the chosen people of this univers not only the world it's us THE GREEKS,put well in youre little head.
Why would there be a mural of Aléxandros? Unlike the later Europeans, the Greeks new how to make art in 3 dimensions, they sculpted. There painting wasn't so great...
In some way I wish I've never heard of this horrible part of history. But we need to know the bad things we, as humans, do to ourselves. I hope nothing else like this happens.
katkoot, you got your names and chronology all confused, not to speak of your understandings. you need to do some more "woodshedding" with some good books in a decent library before you start engaging in disinformation.
I've heard so many theories about what could have been had the library survived, from it becoming a backwater museum to it becoming the core of a great renaissance, sending humanity to the Moon in the 10th century. Its saddening but also inspiring in a way, true testament to how screwed up humanity can be.
Though don't forget the present day, the Internet is the new Great library of Alexandria. Humanity has been given a second chance. Don't let people destroy it or censor it out of ignorance.
It's a shame. The Internet is indeed the new great library. However, I see more people preoccupying themselves with cheap corporate entertainment with it than I see peopled doing independent research for the sake of knowledge.
The ones I DO see researching are doing it with a passionless look on their face that says "I'm only doing this because a mandatory school system made me. Boy I sure can't wait to party."
There are so many problems which need to be addressed.
@Npowell01 I'm not an intellectual in any shape or form however despite being an "average joe" I have gained an appreciation in recent times for researching solely for the sake of knowledge (save for remote possibilities of making a future out of it) and that is at the expense of all other forms of entertainment. I love it.
I assume most people see it as the activity of learned men, with they having nothing to contribute to it and thus no interest in it. That isn't true.
I think 'intellectual' is a loaded word, and it scares too many 'average joes' (another loaded term) away from ever being interested in the secrets of the world.
I'm nineteen. I'm not a shut-in or a weirdo. I live with my girlfriend.
We smoke weed and watch things like Carl Sagan's Cosmos for fun. It's great. I wish there were more people like us, and less people willing to go to war or sit in church because "it's your duty, shut up."
@katkoot229 The Romans didn't copy Egypt but Greece. Otherwise Rome would have pyramids instead of Greek style buildings. The Romans were performing complex cosmetic and brain surgery before all the knowlege was destroyed. The Egyptians were so ignorant they threw the brain away not realising it was the seat of consiousness. The founder of Christianity and barking mad despot Roman emperor Constantine ordered the libraries of Alexandria burnt to destroy all knowlege, creating the dark ages.
@euryopi What has this video or my comment got to do with a USA political party ?
Not everyone online is an American or ignorant of history because they were home schooled by christian fundamentalist parents with only a first grade education.
Let's also not forget the Muslim destruction of the Nalanda Central Library & University Complex in India. It was the oldest and largest actual university in the ancient world. Its library was in three 9-story buildings, it had dormitories and classrooms for thousands of students and hundreds of teachers. Its tuition was free. The Muslim fanatics beheaded all the students and professors, and burned all the books. It took them three months to wipe out the whole place.
This single video could do more to stave off the growing trend of religious intolerance of science than a hundred books. Oh how we need Sagan right now.
I'm a bit suprised that they didn't think of creating a backup library in case you know, it burned down. Don't tell me they didn't have the manpower, the greek empire at the time stretched across the globe all the way to the far east.
Amazing some of the revelations revealed in this video. The fact that a purported '3 volume history of the world' written by Berossus once existed, fly's in the face of what most are usually taught in regards to the isolationist doctrine which tells us that there was no known contact between the global civilizations of antiquity-a theorem that is total crock IMO. Also interesting, as mentioned, was the fact that the ancients knew the Earth orbited around the sun and not vice versa. Mindblowing!
I don't think the destruction of centuries of knowledge was an accident..........I think a tiny group of despotic elitists wanted to control the masses and keep them as ignorant slaves..........A bit like today.
I don't agree with every concept but this library was a true masterpeice. Imagine if you will that not only the knowledge was not lost or that there are a dozen or several hundred anologes of this library scattered across the planet obviously storing vast zettabytes, yattobytes or xonabytes of information. Imagine hundreds of libraries on each planet with many thousands of worlds and some moons. Each of these worlds having different cultures, perspective and experiences. Really imagine that.
@quietjedi1010101 it's still going on. the motive is different. look around. g20 law, illegal wiretaps on landowners and legal gun owners... martial law is now legally possible.... look around people. please.
muslims are going around destroying things similar to this very day cuz they think its an afront against there baliefs so when you religios idiots ask what harm does it do other then mindless killing rape . etc this is a prime excample
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@ww2footage take out all those vs's and we might be able to "move along". science TRIES to answer the questions set forth by religion. Especially quantam physics. and i think you meant "religion v thinking". or at least i HOPE you did. I have a TON of faith in the spiritual realm BECAUSE of Sagan! And i LOOOVE to "think" about the scientific aspect of it. The 2 arents at odds. Its the people that take it TOO FAR who are at odds.
The library of Alexandria collected books by searchiing all the ships that entered its harbor. Learn more at: platos-academyDOTcom - A blog about everything Greek.
It is truely heart breaking that great library at Alexandria is gone ! What Dr. Sagan meationed makes me feel that we are 2000 years BEHIND what we should know !!
@davisgreen2020 Actually, knowledge obtained doesn't indicate that knowledge would keep advancing. Galen, for instance, was a physician in Ancient Rome. He made tremendous advances in the field of medicine. So much was his impact, that most of Rome's physicians thought that there was nothing left to learn and stopped research, only relying on what they already had. Then the Dark Ages...
The thirst for knowledge is more important, or else scientific discovery stagnates and eventually reverses.
@TenderTrap86: I think the point I was try ing to make and Carl Sagan also was that if the library had not been destroyed they might not been a Dark Ages !! Alot of discoveries would have been made much earlier !!
@davisgreen2020 The Dark Ages weren't brought about by lack of scientific knowledge. They Dark Ages happened because of the collapse of Rome. And, the collapse of Rome wasn't brought on by lack of scientific discovery. Empires rise and fall. This is a fact. Period. And, their achievements go with them. It's a tale that's, literally, as old as time.
This is what could happen to the Internet. At any moment, the internet could be destroyed and all the knowledge would be lost, seems like it kinda is going to be lost since internet isn't free and we're being payed for it, plus we'd be controlled by the Illuminati or have terrorists blow up our own planet.
The destruction of the Alexandrian Library put back human civilization by centuries. Here is one instructive example: the 5th century BC Greek playwright Aeschylus wrote about 70 to 90 plays. Of these, only seven survive. I read somewhere that we have less than 5% of the writings from Graeco-Roman civilization extant. And what of the cuneiform tablets of Mesopotamia, the writings of ancient India and China? Only a fraction remain. What marvels could they have told us???
If you look, the Free Masons and the US Government bas alot of there way of life from the Annunaki. The number 33 is the most sacred and most important number to the Annunaki. The highest degree Free Mason is a 33 degree mason, when the US President leaves the airport, the planes takes off on lane 33. The Monument in D.C. is also at a 33rd degree angle to Sirius. If you look at an ariel photo, D.C.'s streets are in the format of Sirius and the shape of a Pentagon.
The Annunaki came to Earth from the constellation Sirius because there planet was dying off. They came here to repopulate which ended up being in Egypt. They built pyramids that were algined exactly with Sirius at a 33 degree angle. They were also very powerful, much more so than human's. They used hyperdimensional physics to build the pyramids and left the informatino behind of how to use it in the Library of Alexandria before it burned down.
The Library of Alexandria, the best place where the secrets of the Annunaki and there way of using hyperdimensional physics were once kept. I believe the government has this information locked away from society so that individuals do not know about it. Unfortunately, most people are to close minded about other concepts of our being. The Annunaki were very smart, and there history of how they got here and what happened seems more realistic then most.
The destruction of the Library of Alexandria represented the beginning of the Dark Ages. One of the greatest tragedies in human history. If I were to go back in history and visit just one person, it might have been Hypatia.
Thanks to the Arabs of the 8th and 9th centuries who saved and translated the last remaining works of the ancient world, did we have the European renaissance. European scholars had to go to Arab Spain and study at the university of Cordoba in order to study these ancient works.
@alpidistra Saved thanks to the Arabs? LOL... The Arabs performed a cultural genocide of epic proportions against the 1000-year old Greek literary heritage of Alexandria and the eastern Meditteranean world, when they decided to replace Greek with their "divine" Arabic as the lingua franca of that region. This was something that neither the pagans of Rome nor the Christians of Constantinople had considered necessary to do with Latin. To label what the Arabs did as "saving" is simply ridiculous...
@alpidistra ...There was absolutely no need to translate anything, all it took was for the Arab invaders to learn Greek like all the other civilized inhabitants of the eastern Mediterranean and to read the works in their original language. This way whatever the Arabs did not find interesting (virtually all poetry, epics, historic works, eyc) and did not request their Christian subjects to translate into Arabic, was simply lost forever as use of Greek language dissappeared...
@alpidistra ...Alexandria was a flourishing city in a flourishing Byzantine Empire, prior to the Arab invasions. There was no "Dark Age" there, the capital Constantinople continued to prosper even with Arab forces besieging the city. Arabs came as conquerors, not "saviors". There would have been no need, role or even material for an Arabic library in Cordoba had not the Arabs in first place plundered Greek libraries in Alexandria and elsewhere, with immense losses of literature as a result...
@alpidistra ...In fact, Arab sources themselves mention book burnings by Muslims after the conquest of Alexandria on orders from the caliph Omar: "If the books are in agreement with the Quran we have no need for them and if they are opposed to the Quran destroy them." As for whatever survived the initial onslaught after the conquest, Arabs hired local Christians to translate their fields of interest into Arabic while like I mentioned the rest was doomed to perish as Greek language was supressed.
@PubliusAfricanus Lol, learn to take a joke, and quit being an ignorant twat. If you don't like a video after it starts then don't watch it all and don't post comments being a snobby prick causing people not to like you. And yet you must seem to like it, as I didn't even actually RESPOND to you, and yet here you are replying to me with something that makes absolutely no sense.
@PubliusAfricanus I realize I initiated. And you know what, I'm sorry, all right? I was having a bad day anyway and I felt like doing it for fun. So I apologize. But in all seriousness your previous comments were out of line and I don't know what your definition of a "hyperbole bitch-fit" is, but this video isn't it. That is all.
Chud is full of dumbasses. "OMG, humanity was nearly lost when this burned down! Oh Noe!" Like Alexandria was full of electric-powered cars and cold fusion plants or something.
@PubliusAfricanus nobody said we lost electric cars, what humanity DID lose is tones of discoveries and important knowledge, humanity wasn't nearly lost, it just got very much retarded in its progress
@PubliusAfricanus So your happy that these religious motherfuckers burnt down one of the greatest sources of ancient knowledge? Let's applaud those fuckers for making humanity believe their trash for hundreds of years and setting our development back.
That's a pretty big fucking leap. Not pissing myself over something that happened twenty centuries ago isn't the same as being happy about it. I don't get teary-eyed on the Ides of March, but that doesn't mean I'm gleeful about Caesar getting shanked.
@PubliusAfricanus Not a big fucking leap, a big fucking embarrassment. Religious fanatics are fucking delusional in destroying knowledge, and even in modern times, they try to force their ridiculous claims of creationism into SCIENCE classrooms. Fucking idiots.
Shoulda made copies. That's exactly why humans should spread from earth. One meteor and earth becomes the Library of Alexandria writ large, with no Sagan to eulogize.
Shoulda made copies. That's exactly why humans should spread from earth. One meteor and earth becomes the Library of Alexandria writ large, with no Sagan to eulogize.
Shoulda made copies. That's exactly why humans should spread from earth. One meteor and earth becomes the Library of Alexandria writ large, with no Sagan to eulogize.
Shoulda made copies. That's exactly why humans should spread from earth. One meteor and earth becomes the Library of Alexandria writ large, with no Sagan to eulogize.
I can't even watch all of this. Anyone who has studied library history knows that there is no mention of this library until the 20th century. This library simply never existed. There wasn't even 1% of the population of Egypt that could read 100 years ago much less thousands of years ago, therefore they had no need of a library. Some of your monarchs and maybe a few priests, but that's it. The reading level is not much improved today. FAIRY TALES.
@IAmbivalanceI As someone who has studied library history, I can assure you it was quite real. And it wasn't meant for the general populace of Egypt. It was meant for the scholars and royal family of Greek-ruled Alexandria.
"Library" in the sense that you are using it, as a place for the general populace of a literate society to read or borrow books, is a relatively modern concept. The library of Alexandria was more like an academic library.
@ShaveIceMan I just help a Master Degreed woman with this very subject. There are no old books mentioning this library. This is the fantasy of the New Age as they rewrite history. Since, I refuse to write the same comments twice please reference comments made to Fabstaire. No books over 100 years old mention this as an ancient library. It's just a way to tote weapons over to the Middle East inconspicuously. 4 old book shelves do not a library make!
wow, that's like saying Shakespearean plays were never written--they're just the imaginings of a bunch of 20th century British actors(i'm not getting into who back in the Elizabethan age actually wrote the plays).
Sure most Egyptians were illiterate back then (as are most Americans now), but that doesn't mean the library did not exist since there are countless mentions of this library in the ancient original source histories!
@Fabstaire I never read history books except on current events that are less than 100yrs old. No antique history books mention a Library at Alexandria. Cleopatra was only mentioned as a queen who was rather loose. My father lived in Alexandria. Until a bunch of UFO hunters, who were trying to make a name for themselves, brought attention to the area most people avoided Egypt. We have some pyramid houses here and we have a large one in Memphis.
for starters Plutarch and Edward Gibbons, both pre-20th century mention the library. There are many surviving Roman historian writings and I'm sure there are mentions of the library there. Plus the Byzantines, and as previously mentioned, the Arab and the Ottoman empire historians.
It's a truism that often the people who live in the backyard of great points of history know that history least of all. Should read about older history, it's riveting and adds insight to modern times
@IAmbivalanceI You have no idea what you're talking about. Does the Letter of Aristeas ring a bell? From the second century? The great historian Josephus relied on it heavily while telling the story of the library.
@mlgmooreThe printing press was when books began to be mass produced for public reading. Much History has been invented to get grants and achieve political agendas. Archeology like everything else is a business. In order to stay in business it has to have new product. This library does not appear in books about libraries printed prior to 1898. Have you read this letter? Do you know anyone personally who has? Do you know Aristeas well enought to know if he is lunatic?
@mlgmoore If the answers to the above questions is 'No' then you need to question wither or not you have been duped. Some groups of nomadic peoples have made a living off the spinning of tall tales. The gypsies are a prime example. They give you a magic rock and tell you that as long as you keep it with you you will be safe. Archeology is a wonderfully attractive field for gypsies and other nomads. It's easy to dig it up, if you buried it. Joephus had what background?
@Fabstaire As always these pyramid structures end up abandoned as they are disfunctional (poor architecture). Mr. Sagan is a very melodramtic man with a vivid imagination. 4 delapidated shelves does not a library make. I'm sure he is simply trying to help with the tourist trade. What bothers me is that something heavy like books might be shipped to the Middle East and go undetected by port authorities.
I can't even watch all of this. Anyone who has studied library history knows that there is no mention of this library until the 20th century. This library simply never existed. There wasn't even 1% of the population of Egypt that could read 100 years ago much less thousands of years ago, therefore they had no need of a library. Some of your monarchs and maybe a few priests, but that's it. The reading level is not much improved today.
This SINGLE passage of Cosmos COMPLETELY transformed my world view. I vowed, back in 1980, that, if the mob ever came again to burn the Great Library, I may not be able to stop them, but would die, trying. It is happening again, right now: fundamentalist fear is eclipsing reason. Scared as I am, I work, every day, to keep som light in this demon haunted world. THIS changed my life for 30 years.
The ancient world was light years more advanced than we are today! governments keep the population in the dark! they want all the power and knowledge for their selves.
@quietjedi1010101 don't you need to have warp drive before you have interstellar travel? unless you don't mind waiting hundreds of years to reach your destination.
@Tammc09 And steam power was invented in the 3rd century Bc but scientists never realised its potential for hundreds of years. Why could play the what if game but the truth was there were lots of social,political and cultural changes occuring at the time. No one factor is responsible.
Muslims destroyed several gr8 universities and libraries in India....like Nalanda which is now being rebuild by 16 South and South-East Asian countries like India,Japan,China,Korea,Singapore etc..Ancient world was a lot better than rise of monotheistic religions...
you can feel the wonder and respect the man had in his very words.It sucks that there fewer and fewer people like him today,but maybe there'll be a turn around and we'll get another like him.Fingers crossed eh?
I love Carl Sagan a great person forever. I think the guy knew about the planets and earth because he went out of body and started to travel off this planet. Lots of out of body experts do this all the time. You can see the planet moving with other planets not so hard if you don't stay stuck in your body. Carl Sagan is still working in heaven to move the human condition to a better education.
The destruction of the Library of Alexandria is an amazing and stark example of how a self-inflicted lobotomy can occur within a society. This is what happens when dogma, especially religious dogma, becomes the prevailing way of "thinking".
@TenderTrap86 1) I did not say that the dogma had to be religious. There are other non-religious forms of dogma, such as dogmatic Communism. 2) I did not say that dogma is the only cause of atrocities-although I would say it's a leading cause. 3) The Mongols destroyed the entire city. They didn't single out their own library for destruction, so it's not a good analogy. 4) Don't assume the Mongols were free of dogma. Ghengis Khan (grandfather of Hulegu) described himself as "punishment of God".
@DandAinTac Your words "dogma, especially religious dogma"
Who singled out "their own library for destruction"? Historians don't even know who exactly destroyed the Great Library or when it happened, so how do you know?
- "The Mongols destroyed the entire city." - So, that's better than just destroying a part of it? (It was said that the Tigris ran black because of the ink from all the books they dumped)
I'm not assuming anything which is why I ask what dogma did the Mongols adhere to?
@TenderTrap86 I know there's some historical ambiguity over exactly when, how, and who destroyed the Great Library. My bet is that the Christian mob burned it down, or at least the Serapeum. This seems to be the best evidence. Although there's some evidence the Muslims finished it off. It doesn't matter--religious dogma is destructive and hostile to knowledge.
@DandAinTac - "My bet is that the Christian mob burned it down" -
Nobody cares about what you'd "bet".
- "religious dogma is destructive and hostile to knowledge." -
So, the Arab Empire, during the Islamic Golden Age, with all their advances in science and mathematics had a "hostility to knowledge"? My goodness... They were even under a caliphate. And, Roger Bacon, the Roman Catholic cleric who developed the modern scientific method also indicates a "hostility to knoweldge"?
@TenderTrap86 As far as the Mongols destroying the entire city of Baghdad, I never claimed that it was "better", only that it was not analogous to what happened in Alexandria. When the US dropped the Atomic Bomb on Hiroshima--they were not aiming to specifically destroy the city's library, although I'm sure it was. Either the Mongols or the US Army Air Corp--they destroyed the city. A better analogy would be like a mob of fanatics in the US burning down the Smithsonian and Library of Congress
@DandAinTac Okay. So you're saying that when the Mongols sacked Baghdad, they destroyed the library because it was merely in their way? But, when the Arabs sacked Alexandria, they destroyed the library because they were ignorant, religious zealots?
You sound like a hypocrite and a very, tall, tall glass of scum, to boot. Go ahead, and twist history anyway you want. I can't stop you.
You're wrong. Destruction really happens when fact twisters, such as yourself, somehow get to be leaders.
@TenderTrap86 No, this is what you are saying as you try to put words in my mouth.
When someone starts resorting to personal insults, that's when I know they have nothing left to offer in the way of constructive debate.
Destruction happens most often when dogmatic fanatics get power in their clutches. History has shown this time and time again. Jihads, book burnings, inquisitions, torture, holy wars, genocide, witch burnings, campaigns of terror, human sacrifice, slavery...
@DandAinTac It's been said that if there was no God, man would create one anyway. But, it can also be said that if there were no such thing as religion, people would find something else to fight over.
Please, tell me you really don't believe that all those bad terrible happened *truly* in the name of God? It's always about money and it will always be about money. Religion just seems to be the excuse people give for their own cruelty. But, if there was no religion, they'd give another reason.
@TenderTrap86 I would agree that greed is a major source of bloodshed and misery also. However, if dogmatic thinking were to disappear, I do not think that something else will just automatically take it's place as a source of bloodshed and misery. Without dogmatic thinking, the terrorists on 9/11 would not have flown planes into buildings. They did not do it for the money. Money may have helped get those towers up, but it did not bring them down.
0:38, he said dank
xxxkenniexxx 3 days ago
Pondering these things always makes me wonder. What will our inheritors think when they look back on our time?
liamsouthwell27 2 weeks ago
the jews destroyed it they hated it because they could not portray their lies into the world if this library existed fuck them for ever they are destroying the world today and they always did!!!!
jcliveron 2 months ago
@jcliveron
Yeah, it's "the jews," and not "humanity in general" who is to blame for the state of the world today.
*rolls eyes*
Please, scapegoating a race and using lots of exclamation points will get you nowhere in the way of progress.
Don't be too mad at them, a couple of Jews were Carl Sagan's parents.
Npowell01 1 month ago
Hi, my name is Carl Sagan, i'm here to fuck shit up, 00:14
kevo84 2 months ago 6
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eddsson 2 months ago
I always see this and it brings a tear in my eye.
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Carl Sagan - "Our collective free time needs to shift as much as possible to education. Whether you're a young student or finished school long ago, get out to the library whenever you can and work hard to learn everything you can about this world. Each individual and society will benefit from being able to solve more problems and make better decisions. Education is an amazing discovery process that repays you endlessly."
TheLogicalBrain 3 months ago
PLANET ORETH
HOXHOXHOX 3 months ago
He is the awesomest guy i 'hv ever seen but I still dont understand he didnt mention about scientific discoveries of muslims before europeans
MyDraco19 3 months ago
i wonder if they were alot of scrolls on achilles there...i gotta say most likely
boricuaalex2 3 months ago
The destruction of the library, greatest loss of knowledge in human history. Truly, I feel cheated, I should be living on a different planet right now....
s5b678 3 months ago
Why is there a LearnLiberty video in the suggestions? I came here for knowledge, not idiocy.
tazgrento 4 months ago
I think Carl Sagan is great. The former comment was not intended to criticize him.
Edrafa10 4 months ago
Christ said that this world won't last forever. He did not say that the quest for knowledge was bad but implicitly revealed it is in vain.so lets use our intelligence to know more and more but without forgetting that truth.
Edrafa10 4 months ago
@Edrafa10 Ἰησοῦς Χριστός(Christos is the same in Spanish) or Yĕhōšuă is probably the most influential figure in the History of Man!!!
n64wilbert 4 months ago
The fact the religion continues to halt our great advancement of intelligence. It's our biggest flaw!
MIDNAq1LINK 4 months ago 3
@MIDNAq1LINK Extreme Religionist Dogma cause the elimination of the Library of Alexandria not every single Religion.
n64wilbert 4 months ago
@n64wilbert I know what you mean & I don't disrespect people who practice religions, but the moment religion goes beyond personal practice & enters the government, education, public, it causes problems.
MIDNAq1LINK 4 months ago
The library of Alexandria wasn't even the most devastating instance of destruction of immense knowledge done by religion... FUCK RELIGION
outlaw87100 4 months ago
many thanks to the zionist jews that stole the books and burned the library.
koniditsa 5 months ago
@koniditsa They had no part in the destruction of the library. Romans, Muslims and Christians bear the quilt for this terrible crime against the progress of human knowledge.
Ryalnotch 5 months ago
@Ryalnotch what the fuck do you know about history you jewseed.
koniditsa 5 months ago
@koniditsa Wow you were an aggressive one, well i am an atheist and i read tons of history. Does that answer your question? And your aggression shows your insecurity and how you feel like everyone is trying to fight you, your loneliness makes you want to belong to some group and have firm and some extreme opinions so you do not have to feel that to some empty feeling of not knowing and being alone in the world. You choose to be a jew-hater, poor choice man. I feel sorry for you.
Ryalnotch 5 months ago
@Ryalnotch reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee go fuck yourself you fucking clown, it shows how ignorant u are,,,atheist hahhahahahahah go through a cosmo magazine and ejaculate all over it,u fucking low life,,,,,and by the way GREEKS DONT HAVE INSECURITES,u insignificant scum race, i hope in the after life the DEVIL WILL BE PUSHING YOUR SHIT-IN.
koniditsa 4 months ago
@koniditsa The true nature of a Christian reveals itself. Lets pretend there was a god and that we died, would you think he would allow you a man filled with hate, spewing nasty things over the internet just to try to make someone feel bad and up to no good into heaven or me a decent guy who are nice to people just b/c choose to and filled with love, working for free to help the poor just so i can help my fellow man. If you were God, who would you let in? The theist(you) or the atheist(me).
Ryalnotch 4 months ago
@Ryalnotch ok,lets pretend that u are a clown,and a waste of time.
koniditsa 4 months ago
@koniditsa You are so stupid its cute.
Ryalnotch 4 months ago
@Ryalnotch shut up FAGGET
koniditsa 4 months ago
@koniditsa Naw :)
Ryalnotch 4 months ago
@koniditsa You spelled that wrong...
mrx342 4 months ago in playlist Quiz #2
@koniditsa Super religious eh? Then you wouldn't hate jews because they're "gods chosen people". Read your book kid
mrx342 4 months ago
@mrx342 chosen people the jews,,,hahahahahahaha good one,,,if they were the chosen why are they killing inocent palestinians.my friend the chosen people of this univers not only the world it's us THE GREEKS,put well in youre little head.
koniditsa 4 months ago
@koniditsa the greater you think you are, the more mediocre you are. thank you for making me sure you're just another poor bastard
Kaeralho 3 months ago
@Kaeralho dirt bag go fuck yourself
koniditsa 3 months ago
the internet is the new great library!
onikiske 5 months ago
Why would there be a mural of Aléxandros? Unlike the later Europeans, the Greeks new how to make art in 3 dimensions, they sculpted. There painting wasn't so great...
karite36 5 months ago
I would've loved to read those scrolls. Just to read about how they did things back in their time.
tommusicfan19 5 months ago
In some way I wish I've never heard of this horrible part of history. But we need to know the bad things we, as humans, do to ourselves. I hope nothing else like this happens.
MIDNAq1LINK 5 months ago
I would've LOVED to have worked there at the library!
HistoryLover1550 6 months ago
Watch the movie 'Agora' starring Rachel Weisz as the philosopher Hypatia, the library and Serapeum were remarkably depicted in that film!
HistoryLover1550 6 months ago
burning that library was more than a huge setback. man kind will perish.
epicmannn 6 months ago
katkoot, you got your names and chronology all confused, not to speak of your understandings. you need to do some more "woodshedding" with some good books in a decent library before you start engaging in disinformation.
thomeselby1947 6 months ago
If I have the chance to travel back in time, i would go to this famous place to enlighten myself.
devcel26193 6 months ago
how does this only have 51,00 views?
hikermanwa 6 months ago
There's a film called Agora, based on the destruction of the Library of Alexandria.
LDNLeon 6 months ago 8
I've heard so many theories about what could have been had the library survived, from it becoming a backwater museum to it becoming the core of a great renaissance, sending humanity to the Moon in the 10th century. Its saddening but also inspiring in a way, true testament to how screwed up humanity can be.
Though don't forget the present day, the Internet is the new Great library of Alexandria. Humanity has been given a second chance. Don't let people destroy it or censor it out of ignorance.
Standuble 7 months ago 29
@Standuble But they will, cause humans are humans
JeffBridges54 6 months ago
@Standuble
It's a shame. The Internet is indeed the new great library. However, I see more people preoccupying themselves with cheap corporate entertainment with it than I see peopled doing independent research for the sake of knowledge.
The ones I DO see researching are doing it with a passionless look on their face that says "I'm only doing this because a mandatory school system made me. Boy I sure can't wait to party."
There are so many problems which need to be addressed.
Npowell01 1 month ago
@Npowell01 I'm not an intellectual in any shape or form however despite being an "average joe" I have gained an appreciation in recent times for researching solely for the sake of knowledge (save for remote possibilities of making a future out of it) and that is at the expense of all other forms of entertainment. I love it.
I assume most people see it as the activity of learned men, with they having nothing to contribute to it and thus no interest in it. That isn't true.
Standuble 1 month ago
@Standuble
I agree with you.
I think 'intellectual' is a loaded word, and it scares too many 'average joes' (another loaded term) away from ever being interested in the secrets of the world.
I'm nineteen. I'm not a shut-in or a weirdo. I live with my girlfriend.
We smoke weed and watch things like Carl Sagan's Cosmos for fun. It's great. I wish there were more people like us, and less people willing to go to war or sit in church because "it's your duty, shut up."
Npowell01 1 month ago 7
The library was burent down when the Romans invaded Alex
You see after the Romans copied our civilization they repaid us back by invadig us Egyptians
katkoot229 7 months ago
@katkoot229 Sad they didnt erase you from the planet.
ubermonkey120 7 months ago
@katkoot229 The Romans didn't copy Egypt but Greece. Otherwise Rome would have pyramids instead of Greek style buildings. The Romans were performing complex cosmetic and brain surgery before all the knowlege was destroyed. The Egyptians were so ignorant they threw the brain away not realising it was the seat of consiousness. The founder of Christianity and barking mad despot Roman emperor Constantine ordered the libraries of Alexandria burnt to destroy all knowlege, creating the dark ages.
Valthepixie 6 months ago 2
Ignorance on display.....tea partier?
euryopi 6 months ago
@euryopi What has this video or my comment got to do with a USA political party ?
Not everyone online is an American or ignorant of history because they were home schooled by christian fundamentalist parents with only a first grade education.
Valthepixie 6 months ago
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Let's also not forget the Muslim destruction of the Nalanda Central Library & University Complex in India. It was the oldest and largest actual university in the ancient world. Its library was in three 9-story buildings, it had dormitories and classrooms for thousands of students and hundreds of teachers. Its tuition was free. The Muslim fanatics beheaded all the students and professors, and burned all the books. It took them three months to wipe out the whole place.
pixusbubblejet 7 months ago 2
Had The Library of Alexandria not been destroyed. Just think of how more we would had advanced.
1958louief 8 months ago
i am sad now but stragely inspired too
fallbread 8 months ago
This single video could do more to stave off the growing trend of religious intolerance of science than a hundred books. Oh how we need Sagan right now.
kingofmilwaukee 8 months ago 4
I'm a bit suprised that they didn't think of creating a backup library in case you know, it burned down. Don't tell me they didn't have the manpower, the greek empire at the time stretched across the globe all the way to the far east.
SirPaFla 8 months ago
Amazing some of the revelations revealed in this video. The fact that a purported '3 volume history of the world' written by Berossus once existed, fly's in the face of what most are usually taught in regards to the isolationist doctrine which tells us that there was no known contact between the global civilizations of antiquity-a theorem that is total crock IMO. Also interesting, as mentioned, was the fact that the ancients knew the Earth orbited around the sun and not vice versa. Mindblowing!
pmsan29 9 months ago
I don't think the destruction of centuries of knowledge was an accident..........I think a tiny group of despotic elitists wanted to control the masses and keep them as ignorant slaves..........A bit like today.
movement26 9 months ago
@movement26 Spot on. I agree 100%.
pmsan29 9 months ago
Thinking about this brings a tear to my eye...
movieguystarraisin 9 months ago
I don't agree with every concept but this library was a true masterpeice. Imagine if you will that not only the knowledge was not lost or that there are a dozen or several hundred anologes of this library scattered across the planet obviously storing vast zettabytes, yattobytes or xonabytes of information. Imagine hundreds of libraries on each planet with many thousands of worlds and some moons. Each of these worlds having different cultures, perspective and experiences. Really imagine that.
RJL738 9 months ago
Carl Sagan always helps us understand how Arrogant we sometimes can be!
deeppurple28 10 months ago
It sickens me to think that all that great knowledge was burned by the fire of religious ignorance.
quietjedi1010101 10 months ago 98
@quietjedi1010101 it was burned accidently after the port was set on fire.
ilovety65 9 months ago
@quietjedi1010101 Worst - it's increasing again in the current age!
BiggerThinking1 7 months ago
@quietjedi1010101 it's still going on. the motive is different. look around. g20 law, illegal wiretaps on landowners and legal gun owners... martial law is now legally possible.... look around people. please.
patbelski 6 months ago
@quietjedi1010101 Not the first time it happened; won't be the last, especially if the Tea Party gets elected.
jgrab1 6 months ago
@quietjedi1010101 it's not like we lack any of it today that was there....
SirGeorge8600 5 months ago
@quietjedi1010101 - Christian religious ignorance at that!
IlovemyGlock21 5 months ago
@quietjedi1010101 we could've learnt much more had the library not been burnt
TheInferno251 3 months ago
Glenn Beck would be the one with the match to ignite the flames to burn down the Library.
thudmother 10 months ago 2
isssssss he a reptilian??? it ssssssscertianly ssssssssounds like it.
mentlblur 10 months ago
issssss he a reptilian?
mentlblur 10 months ago
muslims are going around destroying things similar to this very day cuz they think its an afront against there baliefs so when you religios idiots ask what harm does it do other then mindless killing rape . etc this is a prime excample
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Futurecop2012E 10 months ago
it was always faith vs thinking,religion vs science, stupidity vs intelligence, animal instincts vs human behaviour
ww2footage 11 months ago 4
@ww2footage take out all those vs's and we might be able to "move along". science TRIES to answer the questions set forth by religion. Especially quantam physics. and i think you meant "religion v thinking". or at least i HOPE you did. I have a TON of faith in the spiritual realm BECAUSE of Sagan! And i LOOOVE to "think" about the scientific aspect of it. The 2 arents at odds. Its the people that take it TOO FAR who are at odds.
GordosMama1111 8 months ago
u kick that can..
jordanrivers1 11 months ago
The library of Alexandria collected books by searchiing all the ships that entered its harbor. Learn more at: platos-academyDOTcom - A blog about everything Greek.
platosacademy 11 months ago
Just imagine how much further along we'd be today, if we didn't have to relearn all of this information millennia later...
mtszabo 11 months ago 3
amazing.. Carl Sagan is a precious man of science....
sercansekkin 1 year ago
It is truely heart breaking that great library at Alexandria is gone ! What Dr. Sagan meationed makes me feel that we are 2000 years BEHIND what we should know !!
davisgreen2020 1 year ago
@davisgreen2020 Actually, knowledge obtained doesn't indicate that knowledge would keep advancing. Galen, for instance, was a physician in Ancient Rome. He made tremendous advances in the field of medicine. So much was his impact, that most of Rome's physicians thought that there was nothing left to learn and stopped research, only relying on what they already had. Then the Dark Ages...
The thirst for knowledge is more important, or else scientific discovery stagnates and eventually reverses.
TenderTrap86 1 year ago
@TenderTrap86: I think the point I was try ing to make and Carl Sagan also was that if the library had not been destroyed they might not been a Dark Ages !! Alot of discoveries would have been made much earlier !!
davisgreen2020 1 year ago
@davisgreen2020 The Dark Ages weren't brought about by lack of scientific knowledge. They Dark Ages happened because of the collapse of Rome. And, the collapse of Rome wasn't brought on by lack of scientific discovery. Empires rise and fall. This is a fact. Period. And, their achievements go with them. It's a tale that's, literally, as old as time.
TenderTrap86 1 year ago
Dang, that library is DANK!
WealthyPompano 1 year ago
This is what could happen to the Internet. At any moment, the internet could be destroyed and all the knowledge would be lost, seems like it kinda is going to be lost since internet isn't free and we're being payed for it, plus we'd be controlled by the Illuminati or have terrorists blow up our own planet.
BeamSurfer 1 year ago 3
Very interesting!
LAnonHubbard 1 year ago
The destruction of the Alexandrian Library put back human civilization by centuries. Here is one instructive example: the 5th century BC Greek playwright Aeschylus wrote about 70 to 90 plays. Of these, only seven survive. I read somewhere that we have less than 5% of the writings from Graeco-Roman civilization extant. And what of the cuneiform tablets of Mesopotamia, the writings of ancient India and China? Only a fraction remain. What marvels could they have told us???
sarissa336 1 year ago 2
If you look, the Free Masons and the US Government bas alot of there way of life from the Annunaki. The number 33 is the most sacred and most important number to the Annunaki. The highest degree Free Mason is a 33 degree mason, when the US President leaves the airport, the planes takes off on lane 33. The Monument in D.C. is also at a 33rd degree angle to Sirius. If you look at an ariel photo, D.C.'s streets are in the format of Sirius and the shape of a Pentagon.
DeterminedNow 1 year ago
@DeterminedNow
what the fuck?
ImmaDoWhatIWant 1 year ago
The Annunaki came to Earth from the constellation Sirius because there planet was dying off. They came here to repopulate which ended up being in Egypt. They built pyramids that were algined exactly with Sirius at a 33 degree angle. They were also very powerful, much more so than human's. They used hyperdimensional physics to build the pyramids and left the informatino behind of how to use it in the Library of Alexandria before it burned down.
DeterminedNow 1 year ago
The Library of Alexandria, the best place where the secrets of the Annunaki and there way of using hyperdimensional physics were once kept. I believe the government has this information locked away from society so that individuals do not know about it. Unfortunately, most people are to close minded about other concepts of our being. The Annunaki were very smart, and there history of how they got here and what happened seems more realistic then most.
DeterminedNow 1 year ago
The destruction of the Library of Alexandria represented the beginning of the Dark Ages. One of the greatest tragedies in human history. If I were to go back in history and visit just one person, it might have been Hypatia.
caffingdu 1 year ago
Thanks to the Arabs of the 8th and 9th centuries who saved and translated the last remaining works of the ancient world, did we have the European renaissance. European scholars had to go to Arab Spain and study at the university of Cordoba in order to study these ancient works.
alpidistra 1 year ago
@alpidistra Saved thanks to the Arabs? LOL... The Arabs performed a cultural genocide of epic proportions against the 1000-year old Greek literary heritage of Alexandria and the eastern Meditteranean world, when they decided to replace Greek with their "divine" Arabic as the lingua franca of that region. This was something that neither the pagans of Rome nor the Christians of Constantinople had considered necessary to do with Latin. To label what the Arabs did as "saving" is simply ridiculous...
unapologeticmind 1 year ago
@alpidistra ...There was absolutely no need to translate anything, all it took was for the Arab invaders to learn Greek like all the other civilized inhabitants of the eastern Mediterranean and to read the works in their original language. This way whatever the Arabs did not find interesting (virtually all poetry, epics, historic works, eyc) and did not request their Christian subjects to translate into Arabic, was simply lost forever as use of Greek language dissappeared...
unapologeticmind 1 year ago
@alpidistra ...Alexandria was a flourishing city in a flourishing Byzantine Empire, prior to the Arab invasions. There was no "Dark Age" there, the capital Constantinople continued to prosper even with Arab forces besieging the city. Arabs came as conquerors, not "saviors". There would have been no need, role or even material for an Arabic library in Cordoba had not the Arabs in first place plundered Greek libraries in Alexandria and elsewhere, with immense losses of literature as a result...
unapologeticmind 1 year ago
@alpidistra ...In fact, Arab sources themselves mention book burnings by Muslims after the conquest of Alexandria on orders from the caliph Omar: "If the books are in agreement with the Quran we have no need for them and if they are opposed to the Quran destroy them." As for whatever survived the initial onslaught after the conquest, Arabs hired local Christians to translate their fields of interest into Arabic while like I mentioned the rest was doomed to perish as Greek language was supressed.
unapologeticmind 1 year ago
The greatness of it all is also: this kind of film made before any computer animation existed ;-))
atilmont 1 year ago
Fuck PubliusAfricanus.
Which roughly translates to "PlugmyAnus" - Lol I don't know, but he's gay, right?
KevinHarvey66 1 year ago
@KevinHarvey66
Okay Paul McCartney. You can go back to trashing Good Bond now.
PubliusAfricanus 1 year ago
@PubliusAfricanus Lol, learn to take a joke, and quit being an ignorant twat. If you don't like a video after it starts then don't watch it all and don't post comments being a snobby prick causing people not to like you. And yet you must seem to like it, as I didn't even actually RESPOND to you, and yet here you are replying to me with something that makes absolutely no sense.
KevinHarvey66 1 year ago
@KevinHarvey66
You initiated, I responded. Also, Moonraker is crap.
PubliusAfricanus 1 year ago
@PubliusAfricanus I realize I initiated. And you know what, I'm sorry, all right? I was having a bad day anyway and I felt like doing it for fun. So I apologize. But in all seriousness your previous comments were out of line and I don't know what your definition of a "hyperbole bitch-fit" is, but this video isn't it. That is all.
KevinHarvey66 1 year ago
@KevinHarvey66
I wasn't talking about the video, though it is pretty lame. Kickassia is more enjoyable, and that's pretty much the worst thing ever created by man.
PubliusAfricanus 1 year ago
Fuck religion
ThatGuyWhoSucksBoobz 1 year ago
Chud is full of dumbasses. "OMG, humanity was nearly lost when this burned down! Oh Noe!" Like Alexandria was full of electric-powered cars and cold fusion plants or something.
PubliusAfricanus 1 year ago
@PubliusAfricanus nobody said we lost electric cars, what humanity DID lose is tones of discoveries and important knowledge, humanity wasn't nearly lost, it just got very much retarded in its progress
2CSST2 1 year ago
@2CSST2
Don't tell me. I'm not the one pitching a hyperbole bitch-fit about something that happened 2,000 years ago.
PubliusAfricanus 1 year ago
@PubliusAfricanus No you're the one complaining about anonymous comments on a virtual page, way better dude
2CSST2 1 year ago
@2CSST2
Yes. It is way better.
PubliusAfricanus 1 year ago
@PubliusAfricanus So your happy that these religious motherfuckers burnt down one of the greatest sources of ancient knowledge? Let's applaud those fuckers for making humanity believe their trash for hundreds of years and setting our development back.
CRISNCHIPS12398 1 year ago
@CRISNCHIPS12398
That's a pretty big fucking leap. Not pissing myself over something that happened twenty centuries ago isn't the same as being happy about it. I don't get teary-eyed on the Ides of March, but that doesn't mean I'm gleeful about Caesar getting shanked.
PubliusAfricanus 1 year ago
@PubliusAfricanus Not a big fucking leap, a big fucking embarrassment. Religious fanatics are fucking delusional in destroying knowledge, and even in modern times, they try to force their ridiculous claims of creationism into SCIENCE classrooms. Fucking idiots.
CRISNCHIPS12398 1 year ago
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Shoulda made copies. That's exactly why humans should spread from earth. One meteor and earth becomes the Library of Alexandria writ large, with no Sagan to eulogize.
PacRimJim 1 year ago
Shoulda made copies. That's exactly why humans should spread from earth. One meteor and earth becomes the Library of Alexandria writ large, with no Sagan to eulogize.
PacRimJim 1 year ago
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Shoulda made copies. That's exactly why humans should spread from earth. One meteor and earth becomes the Library of Alexandria writ large, with no Sagan to eulogize.
PacRimJim 1 year ago
Shoulda made copies. That's exactly why humans should spread from earth. One meteor and earth becomes the Library of Alexandria writ large, with no Sagan to eulogize.
PacRimJim 1 year ago
Dogma need not be religious. Stalin and Mao offered their brutal terror to the world on a purely secular basis.
Iconoclastic8 1 year ago
Fuck religion. What a complete joke. All it does is fuck with our motherfucking development. ARRRRGGGGGHHHHH
JIMMSIMM12398 1 year ago
I can't even watch all of this. Anyone who has studied library history knows that there is no mention of this library until the 20th century. This library simply never existed. There wasn't even 1% of the population of Egypt that could read 100 years ago much less thousands of years ago, therefore they had no need of a library. Some of your monarchs and maybe a few priests, but that's it. The reading level is not much improved today. FAIRY TALES.
IAmbivalanceI 1 year ago
@IAmbivalanceI As someone who has studied library history, I can assure you it was quite real. And it wasn't meant for the general populace of Egypt. It was meant for the scholars and royal family of Greek-ruled Alexandria.
"Library" in the sense that you are using it, as a place for the general populace of a literate society to read or borrow books, is a relatively modern concept. The library of Alexandria was more like an academic library.
ShaveIceMan 1 year ago
@ShaveIceMan I just help a Master Degreed woman with this very subject. There are no old books mentioning this library. This is the fantasy of the New Age as they rewrite history. Since, I refuse to write the same comments twice please reference comments made to Fabstaire. No books over 100 years old mention this as an ancient library. It's just a way to tote weapons over to the Middle East inconspicuously. 4 old book shelves do not a library make!
IAmbivalanceI 1 year ago
@IAmbivalanceI: This library simply never existed
wow, that's like saying Shakespearean plays were never written--they're just the imaginings of a bunch of 20th century British actors(i'm not getting into who back in the Elizabethan age actually wrote the plays).
Sure most Egyptians were illiterate back then (as are most Americans now), but that doesn't mean the library did not exist since there are countless mentions of this library in the ancient original source histories!
Fabstaire 1 year ago
@Fabstaire I never read history books except on current events that are less than 100yrs old. No antique history books mention a Library at Alexandria. Cleopatra was only mentioned as a queen who was rather loose. My father lived in Alexandria. Until a bunch of UFO hunters, who were trying to make a name for themselves, brought attention to the area most people avoided Egypt. We have some pyramid houses here and we have a large one in Memphis.
IAmbivalanceI 1 year ago
@IAmbivalanceI
for starters Plutarch and Edward Gibbons, both pre-20th century mention the library. There are many surviving Roman historian writings and I'm sure there are mentions of the library there. Plus the Byzantines, and as previously mentioned, the Arab and the Ottoman empire historians.
It's a truism that often the people who live in the backyard of great points of history know that history least of all. Should read about older history, it's riveting and adds insight to modern times
Fabstaire 1 year ago
@IAmbivalanceI You have no idea what you're talking about. Does the Letter of Aristeas ring a bell? From the second century? The great historian Josephus relied on it heavily while telling the story of the library.
You are really being ridiculous.
mlgmoore 1 year ago
@mlgmooreThe printing press was when books began to be mass produced for public reading. Much History has been invented to get grants and achieve political agendas. Archeology like everything else is a business. In order to stay in business it has to have new product. This library does not appear in books about libraries printed prior to 1898. Have you read this letter? Do you know anyone personally who has? Do you know Aristeas well enought to know if he is lunatic?
IAmbivalanceI 1 year ago
@mlgmoore If the answers to the above questions is 'No' then you need to question wither or not you have been duped. Some groups of nomadic peoples have made a living off the spinning of tall tales. The gypsies are a prime example. They give you a magic rock and tell you that as long as you keep it with you you will be safe. Archeology is a wonderfully attractive field for gypsies and other nomads. It's easy to dig it up, if you buried it. Joephus had what background?
IAmbivalanceI 1 year ago
@Fabstaire As always these pyramid structures end up abandoned as they are disfunctional (poor architecture). Mr. Sagan is a very melodramtic man with a vivid imagination. 4 delapidated shelves does not a library make. I'm sure he is simply trying to help with the tourist trade. What bothers me is that something heavy like books might be shipped to the Middle East and go undetected by port authorities.
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mlgmoore 1 year ago
I can't even watch all of this. Anyone who has studied library history knows that there is no mention of this library until the 20th century. This library simply never existed. There wasn't even 1% of the population of Egypt that could read 100 years ago much less thousands of years ago, therefore they had no need of a library. Some of your monarchs and maybe a few priests, but that's it. The reading level is not much improved today.
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calamesulochana 1 year ago
This SINGLE passage of Cosmos COMPLETELY transformed my world view. I vowed, back in 1980, that, if the mob ever came again to burn the Great Library, I may not be able to stop them, but would die, trying. It is happening again, right now: fundamentalist fear is eclipsing reason. Scared as I am, I work, every day, to keep som light in this demon haunted world. THIS changed my life for 30 years.
rriverstone1 1 year ago 22
@rriverstone1 I agree with you. We must never this to happen at any cost. People of science unite!
movieguystarraisin 9 months ago
The ancient world was light years more advanced than we are today! governments keep the population in the dark! they want all the power and knowledge for their selves.
ggabe005 1 year ago
Imagine how advanced we would be today if this library had not been destroyed.
csrtitus 1 year ago
@csrtitus Religion is a disease that has hindered humanity for thousands of years, there's no telling how advanced we would be without it.
Tammc09 1 year ago 26
@Tammc09 I agree, we would have had Interstellar travel by the 19th Century. Warp drive by the dawn of the 20th century.
quietjedi1010101 10 months ago
@quietjedi1010101 don't you need to have warp drive before you have interstellar travel? unless you don't mind waiting hundreds of years to reach your destination.
camaro76 10 months ago
@camaro76 Thanks you for point that out. I had to think about what you said. It seems I put the cart before the horse.
quietjedi1010101 10 months ago
@Tammc09
What an ignorant thing to say
TheProFreeThrow 10 months ago
@TheProFreeThrow
ignorant people can only say ignorant things, especially anonymous ones on the internet
boys0fsummer1 9 months ago
@Tammc09 And steam power was invented in the 3rd century Bc but scientists never realised its potential for hundreds of years. Why could play the what if game but the truth was there were lots of social,political and cultural changes occuring at the time. No one factor is responsible.
SirPaFla 8 months ago
Muslims destroyed several gr8 universities and libraries in India....like Nalanda which is now being rebuild by 16 South and South-East Asian countries like India,Japan,China,Korea,Singapore etc..Ancient world was a lot better than rise of monotheistic religions...
anu123km 1 year ago 2
8:37 "We have far surpassed the science known to the ancient world."
I don't think so..........
glenjamin72 1 year ago
brilliant man.
worldcitizen08 1 year ago
you can feel the wonder and respect the man had in his very words.It sucks that there fewer and fewer people like him today,but maybe there'll be a turn around and we'll get another like him.Fingers crossed eh?
bookeater 1 year ago
I want to own everything ever created by Carl Sagan.
tike0rz 1 year ago
SAGAN KICK!!!! 0:15
Dancing88Mike 1 year ago
I love Carl Sagan a great person forever. I think the guy knew about the planets and earth because he went out of body and started to travel off this planet. Lots of out of body experts do this all the time. You can see the planet moving with other planets not so hard if you don't stay stuck in your body. Carl Sagan is still working in heaven to move the human condition to a better education.
ClairaGEagleHawk 1 year ago
@ClairaGEagleHawk OMG We need a shrink here!
opblitz87 1 year ago
Lets not mourn the something that is long gone and make sure this doesnt happen again. Its all we can do.
fartx211 1 year ago 3
The destruction of the Library of Alexandria is an amazing and stark example of how a self-inflicted lobotomy can occur within a society. This is what happens when dogma, especially religious dogma, becomes the prevailing way of "thinking".
DandAinTac 1 year ago 48
@DandAinTac i agree
PoFFizdaMan 1 year ago
@DandAinTac agreed skeptic followers despise religious dogmatic views
danzinnyman 1 year ago
@DandAinTac What religious dogma did the Mongols adhere to that incited them to destroy the House Of Wisdom during the Siege of Baghdad, in 1258?
TenderTrap86 1 year ago
@TenderTrap86 1) I did not say that the dogma had to be religious. There are other non-religious forms of dogma, such as dogmatic Communism. 2) I did not say that dogma is the only cause of atrocities-although I would say it's a leading cause. 3) The Mongols destroyed the entire city. They didn't single out their own library for destruction, so it's not a good analogy. 4) Don't assume the Mongols were free of dogma. Ghengis Khan (grandfather of Hulegu) described himself as "punishment of God".
DandAinTac 1 year ago
@DandAinTac Your words "dogma, especially religious dogma"
Who singled out "their own library for destruction"? Historians don't even know who exactly destroyed the Great Library or when it happened, so how do you know?
- "The Mongols destroyed the entire city." - So, that's better than just destroying a part of it? (It was said that the Tigris ran black because of the ink from all the books they dumped)
I'm not assuming anything which is why I ask what dogma did the Mongols adhere to?
TenderTrap86 1 year ago
@TenderTrap86 I know there's some historical ambiguity over exactly when, how, and who destroyed the Great Library. My bet is that the Christian mob burned it down, or at least the Serapeum. This seems to be the best evidence. Although there's some evidence the Muslims finished it off. It doesn't matter--religious dogma is destructive and hostile to knowledge.
DandAinTac 1 year ago
@DandAinTac - "My bet is that the Christian mob burned it down" -
Nobody cares about what you'd "bet".
- "religious dogma is destructive and hostile to knowledge." -
So, the Arab Empire, during the Islamic Golden Age, with all their advances in science and mathematics had a "hostility to knowledge"? My goodness... They were even under a caliphate. And, Roger Bacon, the Roman Catholic cleric who developed the modern scientific method also indicates a "hostility to knoweldge"?
TenderTrap86 1 year ago
@TenderTrap86 As far as the Mongols destroying the entire city of Baghdad, I never claimed that it was "better", only that it was not analogous to what happened in Alexandria. When the US dropped the Atomic Bomb on Hiroshima--they were not aiming to specifically destroy the city's library, although I'm sure it was. Either the Mongols or the US Army Air Corp--they destroyed the city. A better analogy would be like a mob of fanatics in the US burning down the Smithsonian and Library of Congress
DandAinTac 1 year ago
@DandAinTac Okay. So you're saying that when the Mongols sacked Baghdad, they destroyed the library because it was merely in their way? But, when the Arabs sacked Alexandria, they destroyed the library because they were ignorant, religious zealots?
You sound like a hypocrite and a very, tall, tall glass of scum, to boot. Go ahead, and twist history anyway you want. I can't stop you.
You're wrong. Destruction really happens when fact twisters, such as yourself, somehow get to be leaders.
TenderTrap86 1 year ago
@TenderTrap86 No, this is what you are saying as you try to put words in my mouth.
When someone starts resorting to personal insults, that's when I know they have nothing left to offer in the way of constructive debate.
Destruction happens most often when dogmatic fanatics get power in their clutches. History has shown this time and time again. Jihads, book burnings, inquisitions, torture, holy wars, genocide, witch burnings, campaigns of terror, human sacrifice, slavery...
DandAinTac 1 year ago
@DandAinTac It's been said that if there was no God, man would create one anyway. But, it can also be said that if there were no such thing as religion, people would find something else to fight over.
Please, tell me you really don't believe that all those bad terrible happened *truly* in the name of God? It's always about money and it will always be about money. Religion just seems to be the excuse people give for their own cruelty. But, if there was no religion, they'd give another reason.
TenderTrap86 1 year ago
@TenderTrap86 I would agree that greed is a major source of bloodshed and misery also. However, if dogmatic thinking were to disappear, I do not think that something else will just automatically take it's place as a source of bloodshed and misery. Without dogmatic thinking, the terrorists on 9/11 would not have flown planes into buildings. They did not do it for the money. Money may have helped get those towers up, but it did not bring them down.
DandAinTac 1 year ago
@DandAinTac - "I do not think that..." - It's not about what you think. It's about what's real, right now. Stop the fantasy.
But, if individuals can twist Christ's message of love, than how much eas