you people are fighting over whether or not sugar and HFCS are the same and which is better....they both make you fat and HFCS is made with poison and other harsh ingredients.
why cant you just sprout it then make into a mash strain the pulp whith cheese cloth then boil down the liquid after the enzymes break down all the startch into sugar (just like they do in the human body) then you would have a corn wart like making beer. then you could fermit it lol
@craz324eva7 But there is no difference, chemophobia aside, both are harmful for you and should be eaten only sparingly.
High fructose corn syrup is a mix of glucose and fructose. Sucrose is very rapidly broken down into a mix of glucose and fructose when eaten. If one is bad for you so is the other.
@soylentgreenb your body converts sugar to energy. It converts HFCS to fat. There is a difference in the chemical make up of the two. HFCS and sugar are NOT identical and have different effects on the body.
@jsts22 Table sugar, sucrose, is a dissacharide consisting of glucose and fructose joined via an etherbond. Sucrose like other sugars and starches can't be used by your body until it has been split into monosaccharides. Sucrose is hydrolysed into an equal mix of glucose and fructose that is identical to high fructose corn syrup; this process is near instantaneous.
Glucose is metabolized in the krebbs cycle of every cell, and fructose mostly in the liver; origin is irrelevant.
@soylentgreenb sucrose is composed of equal amounts of the two simple sugars, it is 50% fructose and 50% glucose. HFCS is 55 percent fructose and 42 percent glucose and larger sugar molecules called higher saccharides make up the remaining 3 percent of the HFCS. So, no, sugar is NOT identical to HFCS.
@jsts22 There's also HFCS-42, which is 42% fructose.
A few percent difference in relative abundance in either direction makes no bloody difference at all. The few percent of "complex" sugars are merely chains of short chains of glucose(e.g. maltose) that haven't been fully hydrolysed(this is exactly what your body does to starch when you eat it).
As I said, and as you have now reiterated while claiming otherwise; they are identical.
@soylentgreenb Read my comment again, when did I ever claim they were identical? If sugar is 50% fructose and 50% glucose, then even if you look at HFCS that is 42% fructose, that is not identical. Can you not see the numbers don't match. You can not claim the two are identical when they have different chemical compounds. You said a few percent difference makes no difference in compounds (so which is it, identical or a few percent difference?) but what about all of the studies saying otherwise?
@soylentgreenb Rounding error? Scientists usually round to the tenth or hundredth of a number using significant figures. If you are rounding in science, you aren't going to be 8% off, that is a huge number. More like .0008 % off. So no, 8% in science is no where near the same. And why don't you cite some of these studies from reliable sources saying HFCS is the same as sugar? (and no, the corn industry or corn farmers are not reliable sources).
@soylentgreenb And how do you explain the lab studies where rats that where given HFCS in their diet gain significantly more weight than the rats with only real sugar in their diet? Even though both groups had the same caloric intake?
And you said HFCS is ok in moderation. How the hell do you eat it in moderation when it is in almost every mainstream processed food? Whole grain bread, ketchup, and BBQ sauce has it in there. There is no moderation of HFCS, even if you don't eat sugary foods.
@jsts22 "And how do you explain the lab studies where rats that where given HFCS in their diet gain significantly more weight than the rats with only real sugar in their diet?"
Confirmation bias.
There have been a number of peer-reviewed studies conducted on sucrose vs. HFCS in reputable journals and you're discarding the all but the only one that supports your desired conclusion.
"And you said HFCS is ok in moderation."
Bullshit. I said sugar and HFCS are both bad for you.
@soylentgreenb and no, there isn't only one source that says HFCS is worse than sugar. I can easily find tons of reliable sources that agree with me. All of which are independent and have no reason for bias in them. Does Princeton University really have a bias if you eat real sugar or corn sugar? I doubt it.
@soylentgreenb as a result of the manufacturing process for high-fructose corn syrup, the fructose molecules in the sweetener are free and unbound, ready for absorption and utilization. every fructose molecule in sucrose that comes from cane sugar or beet sugar is bound to a corresponding glucose molecule and must go through an extra metabolic step before it can be utilized.
Proof that HFCS is the meth of the food industry. Directly correlated to the obesity in American and the amount of contributions Politicians receive from the Ahole corporate weasels at the giant agri businesses. The big Ag companies laugh as the government provides millions in subsidies to multimillion dollar corp farmers and complete monopolies in their field. Watch Food Inc and never eat Chicken again.
@SSMFK420 Not really, cane sugar is glucose, the sugar that the body utilizes better, corn syrup is fructose, a different sugar that metabolizes differently.
whether its high frutose corn syrup or mercury... your body cant tell the difference.. lol
KHemp93 1 month ago
The body cannot tell the difference between high fructose corn syrup and arsenic, they are both poisonous. LOL
tomaf 3 months ago
you people are fighting over whether or not sugar and HFCS are the same and which is better....they both make you fat and HFCS is made with poison and other harsh ingredients.
ilsdmspjs 3 months ago
why cant you just sprout it then make into a mash strain the pulp whith cheese cloth then boil down the liquid after the enzymes break down all the startch into sugar (just like they do in the human body) then you would have a corn wart like making beer. then you could fermit it lol
eron1979 5 months ago
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videodude4 6 months ago
@craz324eva7 But there is no difference, chemophobia aside, both are harmful for you and should be eaten only sparingly.
High fructose corn syrup is a mix of glucose and fructose. Sucrose is very rapidly broken down into a mix of glucose and fructose when eaten. If one is bad for you so is the other.
soylentgreenb 7 months ago
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jsts22 7 months ago
@soylentgreenb your body converts sugar to energy. It converts HFCS to fat. There is a difference in the chemical make up of the two. HFCS and sugar are NOT identical and have different effects on the body.
jsts22 7 months ago
@jsts22 Table sugar, sucrose, is a dissacharide consisting of glucose and fructose joined via an etherbond. Sucrose like other sugars and starches can't be used by your body until it has been split into monosaccharides. Sucrose is hydrolysed into an equal mix of glucose and fructose that is identical to high fructose corn syrup; this process is near instantaneous.
Glucose is metabolized in the krebbs cycle of every cell, and fructose mostly in the liver; origin is irrelevant.
soylentgreenb 7 months ago
@soylentgreenb sucrose is composed of equal amounts of the two simple sugars, it is 50% fructose and 50% glucose. HFCS is 55 percent fructose and 42 percent glucose and larger sugar molecules called higher saccharides make up the remaining 3 percent of the HFCS. So, no, sugar is NOT identical to HFCS.
jsts22 7 months ago
@jsts22 There's also HFCS-42, which is 42% fructose.
A few percent difference in relative abundance in either direction makes no bloody difference at all. The few percent of "complex" sugars are merely chains of short chains of glucose(e.g. maltose) that haven't been fully hydrolysed(this is exactly what your body does to starch when you eat it).
As I said, and as you have now reiterated while claiming otherwise; they are identical.
soylentgreenb 6 months ago
@soylentgreenb Read my comment again, when did I ever claim they were identical? If sugar is 50% fructose and 50% glucose, then even if you look at HFCS that is 42% fructose, that is not identical. Can you not see the numbers don't match. You can not claim the two are identical when they have different chemical compounds. You said a few percent difference makes no difference in compounds (so which is it, identical or a few percent difference?) but what about all of the studies saying otherwise?
jsts22 6 months ago
@jsts22 "If sugar is 50% fructose and 50% glucose, then even if you look at HFCS that is 42% fructose, that is not identical."
A few percent either way is a rounding error.
soylentgreenb 6 months ago
@soylentgreenb Rounding error? Scientists usually round to the tenth or hundredth of a number using significant figures. If you are rounding in science, you aren't going to be 8% off, that is a huge number. More like .0008 % off. So no, 8% in science is no where near the same. And why don't you cite some of these studies from reliable sources saying HFCS is the same as sugar? (and no, the corn industry or corn farmers are not reliable sources).
jsts22 6 months ago
@soylentgreenb Applying the HFCS industry logic, if you take ground up shoe leather add motor they come out to being identical with hamburger!
mujaku 4 weeks ago
@soylentgreenb And how do you explain the lab studies where rats that where given HFCS in their diet gain significantly more weight than the rats with only real sugar in their diet? Even though both groups had the same caloric intake?
And you said HFCS is ok in moderation. How the hell do you eat it in moderation when it is in almost every mainstream processed food? Whole grain bread, ketchup, and BBQ sauce has it in there. There is no moderation of HFCS, even if you don't eat sugary foods.
jsts22 6 months ago
@jsts22 "And how do you explain the lab studies where rats that where given HFCS in their diet gain significantly more weight than the rats with only real sugar in their diet?"
Confirmation bias.
There have been a number of peer-reviewed studies conducted on sucrose vs. HFCS in reputable journals and you're discarding the all but the only one that supports your desired conclusion.
"And you said HFCS is ok in moderation."
Bullshit. I said sugar and HFCS are both bad for you.
soylentgreenb 6 months ago
@soylentgreenb and no, there isn't only one source that says HFCS is worse than sugar. I can easily find tons of reliable sources that agree with me. All of which are independent and have no reason for bias in them. Does Princeton University really have a bias if you eat real sugar or corn sugar? I doubt it.
jsts22 6 months ago
@soylentgreenb as a result of the manufacturing process for high-fructose corn syrup, the fructose molecules in the sweetener are free and unbound, ready for absorption and utilization. every fructose molecule in sucrose that comes from cane sugar or beet sugar is bound to a corresponding glucose molecule and must go through an extra metabolic step before it can be utilized.
jsts22 7 months ago
This is just preying on people's chemophobia
dtothelu 8 months ago
Proof that HFCS is the meth of the food industry. Directly correlated to the obesity in American and the amount of contributions Politicians receive from the Ahole corporate weasels at the giant agri businesses. The big Ag companies laugh as the government provides millions in subsidies to multimillion dollar corp farmers and complete monopolies in their field. Watch Food Inc and never eat Chicken again.
waterskitom 9 months ago
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madmaniacks 10 months ago
i agree with SSMFK420, I MEAn, if u have "420" in ur name then im sure ANYTHING IS fine in moderation... righ?? ugh..
mbonialtima 11 months ago
@mbonialtima LOL thas righhhh ;)
SSMFK420 11 months ago
high fructose corn syrup is GOOD for you so long as its taken in moderation.. besides, your body doesnt know the difference..
SSMFK420 11 months ago
@SSMFK420 BULLSHIT! It rips my stomach apart. My body has known the difference since the early 90's
dalepremier 10 months ago
@SSMFK420 Not really, cane sugar is glucose, the sugar that the body utilizes better, corn syrup is fructose, a different sugar that metabolizes differently.
riff5fki 9 months ago
I love Kind Korn, thank you so much.
eskimo00ninja 11 months ago
since cutting on HFCS a few years back I managed to keep my weight under control a lot easier.
DietSolutionReviews1 11 months ago
great clip!! thanks man
captainmorgan789 1 year ago
good video but short .....no more HFCS.....
sandybran 1 year ago