I'm glad you covered this. I saw it on TV and it well fucked me off. I remember the days of OU tea time programming. That was good. This is just brain rotting unscientific sun reader bullshit.
hmmmm i think im a bit late but u didnt mention that the lithium wins because it would need less energy to do all that compared to the Caesium. so the total Energy released by lithium will be represented by a smaller number (minus) so the greatest energy output ( absolute value wins :D) ( just in case people saying that the total sum for Caesium was bigger so it must be the winner)
Ah first year Chemistry, I'd almost forgotten it. Thought it was a trick question, that Cs mass was lower in moles but I didn't know that Li would be correct with the same molar ratio.
My university professor showed this to my class of 200, and who knows how many other classes. The next day, some one posted a link to this video on our class website. That both confirmed Thunderf00t's claim that this myth is widespread in universities, and showed me that the chemistry joke cat links I posted on our website under the name "Useful Chem Info" were not anonymous, like I thought they were.
@3.30 this is meant to be all faked... yet brainiacs can spell Caesium, but you can't. I take it you're English from your accent. Me to, yet you spelt it the American way. Sorry, but any yr 7 can spell Caesium correctly and you can't. lol
Looking at the Mathematics does reveal that what you've shown is the case. However a slightly more logical look at it is, why would it take so long for the Alkali metal to react. It takes him ages to get to this 'safety zone' when if you seen any reaction of water with Alkali metal happens in the mater of a second or so. Either way, Braniac corrupts Science in this case...
good video Thunderf00t, i have an idea instead of making Cs out of CsCl you could use the same 7:132 ratio with smaller masses. So for example 1.32 g of Cs vs 0.07 g of Li
I'm not sure If his calculations comparing the two metals accounts for the very large diiference in energy required to dislodge an electron from the first shell as compared to the second, third, etc.
Maybe I misunderstood the question because the answer seems to be something I remember learning in jr. High school chem: alkali metals donate one electron to bond with the hydroxide ion, and lithium's is a lot closer to the nucleus than the other metals. As you go down the column of alkalis, the electron gets "looser" and allows a more vigorous reaction.
Thunderf00t - you claimed that this "fakery really makes my blood boil." Could you please demonstrate how one's blood can be brought to a boil and yet, live to tell us about it? Thanks
I remember seeing this show a few years ago or something similar to it. From the moment I watched it I knew it was a load of bull. Their methods and conclusions were highly, highly flawed. I thought of it a bit like a dodgy version of Mythbusters.
Didn't this happen a few years ago? Personally I think they would have done better with elemental sodium or potassium. You can get much more bang for your buck with sodium yeah the reaction is less than Potassium but it is much cheaper.
This trick with the c4 really was dumb. Creationist and anti-climate change people work real hard to discredit science. A supposedly pro-science tv show pulling this stunt just helps those idiots.
I like Thuderf00t a lot more when he's teaching science than fights ignorant religious fanatics cause he's showing that his knowledge and his level are higher than theirs...
I can't really get that worked up, its fucking Brainac, the show where they had people eating hot curries and then consuming various drinks to 'prove' their ability to deaden the taste of hotness. Or blowing up caravans. Or seeing if the 'tick-tacker' thing on a bike makes it go faster.
Saying Brainac has bad science is like saying the sun is hot.
I remember seeing that episode of Brainiac. I feel so cheated. Not because those chemicals are far more tame than portrayed, but because he lied so heavily. And to children no less.
Good thing I never really watched the show much. I was more of a Bill Nye guy.
The numbers T-f00t used for his delta values are correct. Look them up. So I don't care how many YouTube videos disprove the laws of physics or how many commenters here claim to have found other values. You either lying or being lied to. If a YouTube video showed Cs exceeding those delta values, who ever made that just won a big fat medal and a cool $million from Nobel, and another $million from James Randi.
So Thunderf00tCC will be moderated and censored, but in a good light? IE, comments not conducive of creative hypothesis, speculation, and inquire will be removed? I do hope so.
@FreboyDT That could be it. Its very easy for Caesium to dump its free electron, whereas its harder for Lithium to do so. Conversely the halogens go the other way in reactivity, because they're trying to grab onto another electron, and its harder to do that if your electron shells are further from the nucleus.
I told a friend of mine about this and he said that he actually witnessed the experiment first hand. He said that it really works and that Cs has an extremely short half life and must be extremely smooth to be that explosive. Is he talking sense?
I am wondering why thunderf00t showed periodicvideos failed attempt at a cesium reaction (because it didnt properly come out of the ampule) but not thier follow up vid?
watch?v=5aD6HwUE2c0
watch?v=pWXQ2tYzJaU
I must add, I doubt anyone beleived "Depthcharge in a bathtub" as that was obviously nonsense :D.
Seeing as how a depth charge is a military-grade explosive, and an ASW one at that, no real scientific knowledge is actually needed to realize that this is fake, and that an actual depth charge would have completely obliterated the bathtub. Also, fragmentation grenades only make small explosions, their damage results in the fragments flying into people at high speed. Whether a frag grenade would have created an explosion of such proportions, I'm not 100%.
I don't like you tf00t, or better said, I don't like your way of interacting with your critics, however... Provide more videos like this one, and I will provide you with a small but regular monthly donation, say $100 or so.
Brainiac always fake their explosions, nothing new there. They always did. Perhaps the Mythbusters should tests the claims in some of Brainiac's shows, lol.
Great Vid. These people need to grow some balls and grind the metals up before they put them in water. Kinetics is what makes explosions not thermodynamics.
Thank you for this video Thunderf00t . I have been a financial supporter since you asked for it. If you need more bucks to keep on providing your substantial videos, then please do ask, brother. We are here for you.
Not done any higher level Chemistry (Aiming at Biology) but if there is the same amount of of atoms in 130g of Cesium as 7g of Lithium and the 130g of Cesium is much larger, would not this mean that effectivly it is the suface area expansion that is helping the reaction speed up?
This reminds me of an episode of Mythbusters where they busted MacGyver myths involving reactive metals. The Mythbusters showed how it would take several times the amount of metal "used" just to recreate the explosions seen on MacGyver. I would like to see Thunderf00t on Mythbusters. Unlike Brainiac, the Mythbusters do actual science.
I saw the rubidium one at school and saw the caesium one on a video. First in water and then in acid which multiplied the effect by a huge factor. I don't remember the quantities though.
I quite like Thunderf00t but I am reluctant to believe someone who spells dynamite as dynomite.
@MrSelidor7 "I am reluctant to believe someone who spells dynamite as dynomite" <That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. You obviously understood that dynomite meant dynamite, so who cares. You'd rather the man wasted his time concentrating on learning better spelling rather than the intricacies of chemistry? 40 years ago sure that skill might have gotten him a nice mundane job as a copy editor nitpicking over the productive or entertaining writings of others, now we have spellcheck.
@ArchNME. I just expect a higher standard from someone who poses as an expert on chemistry. We do have spellcheck but it appears that nobody uses it otherwise he wouldn't have left the mistake there. It is not a comment he made but a finished video clip that has been put on display. If he hasn't noticed such an obvious flaw there could well be flaws in his chemical evaluations.
@MrSelidor7 Perhaps you should spend a little more time learning about the actual topic of this video so you won't have to base your judgement on such tenious logic. People's ability to correctly spell dynamite is probably not going to get you very far as a yard stick for measuring the accuracy of the rest of their statements. To think otherwise is idiotic. Think of the opposite case, if someone who told you the earth was flat but had immaculate spelling and grammar would you believe them?
@ArchNME. That is just pish. I am not going to university for 3 or 4 years to study chemistry just to find out if a tv show faked an experiment. I watched the full video but admittedly did not fully understand the workings of the chemical equations. I can't speak for the USA but in the UK, university students are expected to have a good grasp of the English language. Anyone who publishes something should be expected to get ALL their facts right first.
@MrSelidor7 University for 3 or 4 years?? lol, you could just spend two or three hours on the internet. I guess you'd rather rely on the one thing you do actually know (how to spell dynamite) rather than learning anything new or actually useful. yeeash... Give it up man, it simple does not follow that bad spelling equals bad chemistry. If it does can you point out a mistake in his calculations?
@MrSelidor7 Your logic is flawed. So you don't understand the Science behind it because you don't want to make the effort yet you state it you can't believe it via a spelling mistake? The simple "fact" you don't understand any of this does not make you a candidate to scrutinize it.
@blade004. I wouldn't trust a dentist with a sign saying "DEMTIST" and I won't trust a chemist who can't spell dynamite in a published article. I never said that I don't understand ANY of this, I said that I don't FULLY understand the workings of the chemical equations.
However, instead of getting a degree in chemistry I just checked YT for the same experiment and there are many showing caesium destroying the container.
@MrSelidor7. I remember the caesium one now. It was in a big glass container which did shatter when it was dropped but I think it was dropped into acid, not water. Definitely shattered the glass though.
So in trying to get people interested in science, Brainiac has essentially told it's audience science is bullshit, compromising the overall goal. Not cool
What on EARTH is the benefit of LYING about something like this during a supposed scientific experiment? Hype? Being a lover of science, and the scientific method, I cannot help but see these crap "educational" videos as being horribly injurious to science in general. Thanks, Thunderfoot, for what you do.
By the way, the metal with the lowest electrochemical oxidation voltage is gold. While oxidizing a hydrogen atom in exchange for reducing a lithium ion takes about 3 electron volts, oxidizing a hydrogen atom in exchange for reducing a gold ion releases about 3 electron volts. Assuming the +1 oxidation state that is. I don't know whether that figure was for the 1+ or 3+ state but if it's 3+, then it's 9 electron volts per gold atom. I learned all that when I was interested in electroplating.
The ironic thing here is that the faked videos were probably filmed with cameras powered by rechargeable lithium batteries! And they wouldn't be using lithium in batteries if it didn't have a HIGHER energy density than sodium, which is VASTLY more abundant. 96500 amp seconds is one mole of electrons, enough to oxidize 6 grams of lithium or 150 grams of cesium, and lithium has a HIGHER oxidation voltage to boot, higher than any other metal! More energy per mole on top of more moles per gram!
Brainiac was a show specifically for children, it jus gives them an idea and gets them interested in science, they'd find your version boring and turn off or start reading the bible!!! oh and they use comedy to spice it up. dont cry, go back to religion, it is needed far more!
It's been a while since I've done any Chemistry, but to me this does seem very bizarre that lithium is the more reactive. I thought the basic rule was that the more electrons an element had, the more reactive it was. A caesium atom has many more electrons than lithium, so they are spread further and further away from its nucleus, and so the outer layers are much more likely to react.
I am being very simplistic here though. Maybe there's some extra factor to take into account I don't know.
Brainiac tend to make things bigger than they are. Their microwaved champagne bottle was manipulated in the same way. I tried that myself, and while it did give a nice bang, it was nothing like what Brainiac makes people believe.
Richard hammond?? Well no wonder its fake, Top gear folk aren't exactly known for their scientific accuracy, and im sure that carries on into their other shows. They are entertainers.
@theoneknot He is a science teacher, he is more or less required to know this as part of his career. Anyone who has ever touched on the surface of chemestry would know this already. When watching this, I had predicted what he was going to say before it was said, so I know this is as basic as it could get. There are far more exothermic substances out there that are much easier to transport, lithium reacts with oxygen containing molecules in air. Terrorist breeding knowledge my ass.
They're not faking it just because, they're faking it because they don't want to teach people how to make real explosives, "similar" effects can be made, but with diffrent substances! Right or wrong, with the evergrowing fear of terrorism, that's how things are going to be! =/
@xjod9 It's comedy I'll agree with you there but the portions on their show and the lengths they go about explaining things does not add to the comedy. I think they were also trying to add a little information in there and their information here is clearly false.
It's not like the show "Look Around You" where you know it seems to be taking it self seriously but the jokes and tone clash so harshly you know it's a joke. If you don't know what look around you is, look it up. It's awesome.
do you have a degree in chemistry or physics or the like...? I'm just wondering cuz I ran accross your videos on creationism and all that and as a physics student I think you are very educated in some topics, also I saw some of your chemistry experiments and realized you must be very curious...
Brainiac became less and less about real science as the series went on. In fact it kind of feels like a parody of science, even if you may get some very very basic info from it. Mythbusters is MUCH better at making science AND entertainment together.
I'm always surprise at how little we know about chemical reactions. What the hell do chemists do? It seems like figuring out the exact mechanism in which a reaction occurs is something intuitive but I guess it isn't that easy.
@61shirley No they didnt. If you actually read the article, he claimed to have found something along the lines of 400 tonnes of "unreacted thermite"
Now I have no idea what the ratio of reacted thermite:unreacted thermite is in a normal burn, but I would wager to get 400 tonnes of unreacted thermite, you would need a titanic amount of thermite to begin with. Certainly not the kind of amounts you could covertly sneak into an occupied building.
great video. you should have a look into the evidence of controlled demolition to building 7 of the world trade centre complex on 9/11. thousands of architects and enginners have started a 911 truth movement for a new investigation. Scientists have found Thermite in the debris of the twin towers.
I'm really glad you made this video! I always thought that cesium in water was... pretty much like they were showing it.
I'm really disappointed in those guys though. I love watching Top Gear, and I will continue watching it, but it's disappointing to see the guys in it involved in this sort of crap.
Thanks, TF! I wasn't quite sure what the answer was until you took away those extraneous bits from the equations at 4:55. As soon as you did that, I understood quite quickly! It makes so much sense once you look at it from an ionization energy/atomization energy/solvation standpoint.
Looking forward to more videos like this and religion! :)
I find this incident even more sad because it would've been arguably more entertaining if they had admitted that their chemicals didn't explode as planned, and then they went on to blow up the bathtubs anyway.
I really like these Chemistry videos. I've been avoiding chem 1 for a long time. But now I feel motivated to learn chemistry. Since chem nerds are a less cocky version of physics nerds.
Are you feeling all right today, Thunderf00t? You should make a video on the mechanics of alcohol's effect on the brain. That would be a neat thing to fully understand and bring up in conversations at the bar.
i thought science was boring, i saw brainiac and thought it was cool, saw this and now know it is boring, :/
An0nym0usPers0n123 1 week ago
I'm glad you covered this. I saw it on TV and it well fucked me off. I remember the days of OU tea time programming. That was good. This is just brain rotting unscientific sun reader bullshit.
TheDave 1 month ago
hmmmm i think im a bit late but u didnt mention that the lithium wins because it would need less energy to do all that compared to the Caesium. so the total Energy released by lithium will be represented by a smaller number (minus) so the greatest energy output ( absolute value wins :D) ( just in case people saying that the total sum for Caesium was bigger so it must be the winner)
MrZmglm 1 month ago
Damn! I got into chem to blow shit up but this is just disappointing
AlliTheSnowWolf 1 month ago
Ah first year Chemistry, I'd almost forgotten it. Thought it was a trick question, that Cs mass was lower in moles but I didn't know that Li would be correct with the same molar ratio.
b0b0maj0 3 months ago
My university professor showed this to my class of 200, and who knows how many other classes. The next day, some one posted a link to this video on our class website. That both confirmed Thunderf00t's claim that this myth is widespread in universities, and showed me that the chemistry joke cat links I posted on our website under the name "Useful Chem Info" were not anonymous, like I thought they were.
ParanoidAndroid15 3 months ago
Dude Bill Nye is legit man... This brainiac guy is a retard... not a science guy... maaannnnn..... wtf
TrollAndStuff 4 months ago
Ahhh my childhood has been ruined... :'(
LozzaWayne 4 months ago 10
@LozzaWayne What do you mean ruined? Big explosions and boobs are more fun to watch than real caesium in water. :P
SgtTwinkleToes 2 months ago
According to my sister, this was showed at their school as an 'educational video'.
/facepalm
BlueBerryWizard 5 months ago
@3.30 this is meant to be all faked... yet brainiacs can spell Caesium, but you can't. I take it you're English from your accent. Me to, yet you spelt it the American way. Sorry, but any yr 7 can spell Caesium correctly and you can't. lol
MissLoveBooks 5 months ago
@MissLoveBooks It's called a typo. I bet it's happened to you once or twice.
TaCkLeZdEm 4 months ago
A shame for british television...
geyza0711 5 months ago
Looking at the Mathematics does reveal that what you've shown is the case. However a slightly more logical look at it is, why would it take so long for the Alkali metal to react. It takes him ages to get to this 'safety zone' when if you seen any reaction of water with Alkali metal happens in the mater of a second or so. Either way, Braniac corrupts Science in this case...
phil101great 5 months ago
my gr 11 science teacher showed this brainiac video in class...
TheShaitanjr 5 months ago
good video Thunderf00t, i have an idea instead of making Cs out of CsCl you could use the same 7:132 ratio with smaller masses. So for example 1.32 g of Cs vs 0.07 g of Li
uranium188 5 months ago
Brainiac has been officially "busted" lol
ThermalHD 5 months ago 2
I like to think I know "stuff" but chemistry is not one of them. Thanks for the lesson.
ronrayah 5 months ago
Richard Hammond is more fun to watch on TopGear :)
NicolaMacLeod 6 months ago
mmmmm, mathscience
jpm12s 6 months ago
doc finally somebody explain well chemistry, moles and chemical energy very nice video!!! Unfortunately braniacs dont know that!
talligalli 6 months ago
Brainiac gets powned by high school chemistry.
So much win here
boberto2000 6 months ago
I wish I had watched this when I was in AP chem
Th3Sh1n1gam1 6 months ago
These guys work for the Wheatley Laboratories
DarkZholt 6 months ago 2
I'm not sure If his calculations comparing the two metals accounts for the very large diiference in energy required to dislodge an electron from the first shell as compared to the second, third, etc.
kudosdc 6 months ago
Maybe I misunderstood the question because the answer seems to be something I remember learning in jr. High school chem: alkali metals donate one electron to bond with the hydroxide ion, and lithium's is a lot closer to the nucleus than the other metals. As you go down the column of alkalis, the electron gets "looser" and allows a more vigorous reaction.
kudosdc 6 months ago
Of course its all fake. If brainiac didnt fake anything it would be a very boring show.
Slaterking2010 6 months ago
Thunderf00t - you claimed that this "fakery really makes my blood boil." Could you please demonstrate how one's blood can be brought to a boil and yet, live to tell us about it? Thanks
goofydog2 6 months ago 2
Lets give braniacs video for MYTH BUSTERS and lets see what they are going to do same company same tricks or will be couards :D
stugauju 7 months ago 2
I remember seeing this show a few years ago or something similar to it. From the moment I watched it I knew it was a load of bull. Their methods and conclusions were highly, highly flawed. I thought of it a bit like a dodgy version of Mythbusters.
indianajones34 7 months ago
Didn't this happen a few years ago? Personally I think they would have done better with elemental sodium or potassium. You can get much more bang for your buck with sodium yeah the reaction is less than Potassium but it is much cheaper.
This trick with the c4 really was dumb. Creationist and anti-climate change people work real hard to discredit science. A supposedly pro-science tv show pulling this stunt just helps those idiots.
flibbertygibbet 7 months ago
Interesting video.
BedsideGnome 7 months ago
This IS the beauty of science. Differently from religion, we can spot and discredit any charlatan claiming "wonders" in the name of science!
SuperLogicK 7 months ago
I guess we are all lucky that the world was not destroyed by all the explosions during the flood
wwickeddogg 7 months ago 3
This has been flagged as spam show
I like Thuderf00t a lot more when he's teaching science than fights ignorant religious fanatics cause he's showing that his knowledge and his level are higher than theirs...
WICKEDMAN9MM 7 months ago
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WICKEDMAN9MM 7 months ago
I can't really get that worked up, its fucking Brainac, the show where they had people eating hot curries and then consuming various drinks to 'prove' their ability to deaden the taste of hotness. Or blowing up caravans. Or seeing if the 'tick-tacker' thing on a bike makes it go faster.
Saying Brainac has bad science is like saying the sun is hot.
Lollocide 7 months ago 20
@Lollocide So its to do with your point of reference then?
TheDcac 7 months ago
@TheDcac
What?
Lollocide 7 months ago
I remember seeing that episode of Brainiac. I feel so cheated. Not because those chemicals are far more tame than portrayed, but because he lied so heavily. And to children no less.
Good thing I never really watched the show much. I was more of a Bill Nye guy.
OsyenVyeter 7 months ago
Thank you so very much.I have learned more from a few of your videos than from years of school.
I really wish I has enough money to donate to the cause of TRUE scientific education.
toulouse666 7 months ago
The numbers T-f00t used for his delta values are correct. Look them up. So I don't care how many YouTube videos disprove the laws of physics or how many commenters here claim to have found other values. You either lying or being lied to. If a YouTube video showed Cs exceeding those delta values, who ever made that just won a big fat medal and a cool $million from Nobel, and another $million from James Randi.
KingofNH 7 months ago
So Thunderf00tCC will be moderated and censored, but in a good light? IE, comments not conducive of creative hypothesis, speculation, and inquire will be removed? I do hope so.
Good job, Thunderf00t.
xenxander 7 months ago
If only more of YouTube could be this cool.
jsaari1183 7 months ago
@FreboyDT That could be it. Its very easy for Caesium to dump its free electron, whereas its harder for Lithium to do so. Conversely the halogens go the other way in reactivity, because they're trying to grab onto another electron, and its harder to do that if your electron shells are further from the nucleus.
dgodfrey9189 7 months ago
I told a friend of mine about this and he said that he actually witnessed the experiment first hand. He said that it really works and that Cs has an extremely short half life and must be extremely smooth to be that explosive. Is he talking sense?
aldiec 7 months ago
I am wondering why thunderf00t showed periodicvideos failed attempt at a cesium reaction (because it didnt properly come out of the ampule) but not thier follow up vid?
watch?v=5aD6HwUE2c0
watch?v=pWXQ2tYzJaU
I must add, I doubt anyone beleived "Depthcharge in a bathtub" as that was obviously nonsense :D.
passwordresetisbroke 7 months ago
Much appreciated Thunderf00t! Wish you the best!
agent0sephiroth 7 months ago
Braniac ADMITTED it was fake. Ages ago
SupahSonicBoom 7 months ago
Seeing as how a depth charge is a military-grade explosive, and an ASW one at that, no real scientific knowledge is actually needed to realize that this is fake, and that an actual depth charge would have completely obliterated the bathtub. Also, fragmentation grenades only make small explosions, their damage results in the fragments flying into people at high speed. Whether a frag grenade would have created an explosion of such proportions, I'm not 100%.
TheCrimsonSabre 7 months ago
Also, this Braniac needs to get a better understanding of military explosives before making his comparisons.
TheCrimsonSabre 7 months ago
nice dude.. you should have been my physical chemistry professor...
Nocturne187 7 months ago
I love you Thunderf00t!! I'd pay you too but I'm poor myself XD
TheReaverOfDarkness 7 months ago
This is old news
SupahSonicBoom 7 months ago
OLD!
SupahSonicBoom 7 months ago
I don't like you tf00t, or better said, I don't like your way of interacting with your critics, however... Provide more videos like this one, and I will provide you with a small but regular monthly donation, say $100 or so.
You have my interest.
iHateNumbersInNames9 7 months ago
You rock! I'll see you on thunderfootcc.
katfrog98 7 months ago
Allah is my witnesses this atheist is telling the truth.
AakirX 7 months ago
Thunderf00t, will you be my chemistry tutor? That would be awesome! :)
Dauntless07 7 months ago
Brainiac always fake their explosions, nothing new there. They always did. Perhaps the Mythbusters should tests the claims in some of Brainiac's shows, lol.
mroldnewbie 7 months ago
@mroldnewbie they already did, they did an episdode about this very topic
Supershackda 7 months ago
@Supershackda I gather you're thinking of the MacGyver episode, or was there some other episode?
mroldnewbie 7 months ago
@mroldnewbie i dont know, all i know is they did an episode where they put caesium and rubidium into some toilets
Supershackda 7 months ago
@Supershackda Lol, that sounds weird. I never saw that episode. Thanks for noticing.
mroldnewbie 7 months ago
this was found out ages ago
SupahSonicBoom 7 months ago
How sad is it that programs such as Braniac that claim being educative has to resort to meatheaded stuns for the sake of entertainment.
TheSciFiCat 7 months ago
Great Vid. These people need to grow some balls and grind the metals up before they put them in water. Kinetics is what makes explosions not thermodynamics.
praisegugleourmaster 7 months ago
Thank you for this video Thunderf00t . I have been a financial supporter since you asked for it. If you need more bucks to keep on providing your substantial videos, then please do ask, brother. We are here for you.
pradeep1 7 months ago
I love you, Thunderf0000000000t :D You are so rad.
electronicoffee 7 months ago
Brainiac is mainly about show, and secondly about experiments.
toxicMDR2 7 months ago
Brainiac, you disappoint me
ChibiRuah 7 months ago
@ChibiRuah BRAINIAC I AM DISAPPOINT
electronicoffee 7 months ago
Not done any higher level Chemistry (Aiming at Biology) but if there is the same amount of of atoms in 130g of Cesium as 7g of Lithium and the 130g of Cesium is much larger, would not this mean that effectivly it is the suface area expansion that is helping the reaction speed up?
mrtalos 7 months ago
If I had to describe this video, I'd call it, in the inimitable words of Jimmie Walker as J. J. Evans, "Dyn-o-mite!" Good Times, indeed.
TimCubUAkbar 7 months ago
All I have to say is, I wouldn't have failed grade eleven chemistry two years ago if I was watching Thunderf00t way back when xD
Can't be helped I suppose; I find the social sciences to be more rewarding anyway.
DavManCometh 7 months ago
This reminds me of an episode of Mythbusters where they busted MacGyver myths involving reactive metals. The Mythbusters showed how it would take several times the amount of metal "used" just to recreate the explosions seen on MacGyver. I would like to see Thunderf00t on Mythbusters. Unlike Brainiac, the Mythbusters do actual science.
AlphaOfThings 7 months ago
lol ur a hobo
ned30000 7 months ago
Wow, why don't they teach chemistry like this in school! I didn't understand moles after 6 months, and i just got it in 5 minutes!
tobyricketts 7 months ago
I saw the rubidium one at school and saw the caesium one on a video. First in water and then in acid which multiplied the effect by a huge factor. I don't remember the quantities though.
I quite like Thunderf00t but I am reluctant to believe someone who spells dynamite as dynomite.
MrSelidor7 7 months ago
@MrSelidor7 "I am reluctant to believe someone who spells dynamite as dynomite" <That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. You obviously understood that dynomite meant dynamite, so who cares. You'd rather the man wasted his time concentrating on learning better spelling rather than the intricacies of chemistry? 40 years ago sure that skill might have gotten him a nice mundane job as a copy editor nitpicking over the productive or entertaining writings of others, now we have spellcheck.
ArchNME 7 months ago
@ArchNME. I just expect a higher standard from someone who poses as an expert on chemistry. We do have spellcheck but it appears that nobody uses it otherwise he wouldn't have left the mistake there. It is not a comment he made but a finished video clip that has been put on display. If he hasn't noticed such an obvious flaw there could well be flaws in his chemical evaluations.
MrSelidor7 7 months ago
@MrSelidor7 Perhaps you should spend a little more time learning about the actual topic of this video so you won't have to base your judgement on such tenious logic. People's ability to correctly spell dynamite is probably not going to get you very far as a yard stick for measuring the accuracy of the rest of their statements. To think otherwise is idiotic. Think of the opposite case, if someone who told you the earth was flat but had immaculate spelling and grammar would you believe them?
ArchNME 7 months ago
@ArchNME. That is just pish. I am not going to university for 3 or 4 years to study chemistry just to find out if a tv show faked an experiment. I watched the full video but admittedly did not fully understand the workings of the chemical equations. I can't speak for the USA but in the UK, university students are expected to have a good grasp of the English language. Anyone who publishes something should be expected to get ALL their facts right first.
MrSelidor7 7 months ago
@MrSelidor7 University for 3 or 4 years?? lol, you could just spend two or three hours on the internet. I guess you'd rather rely on the one thing you do actually know (how to spell dynamite) rather than learning anything new or actually useful. yeeash... Give it up man, it simple does not follow that bad spelling equals bad chemistry. If it does can you point out a mistake in his calculations?
ArchNME 7 months ago
@MrSelidor7 Your logic is flawed. So you don't understand the Science behind it because you don't want to make the effort yet you state it you can't believe it via a spelling mistake? The simple "fact" you don't understand any of this does not make you a candidate to scrutinize it.
blade004 7 months ago
@blade004. I wouldn't trust a dentist with a sign saying "DEMTIST" and I won't trust a chemist who can't spell dynamite in a published article. I never said that I don't understand ANY of this, I said that I don't FULLY understand the workings of the chemical equations.
However, instead of getting a degree in chemistry I just checked YT for the same experiment and there are many showing caesium destroying the container.
MrSelidor7 7 months ago
@MrSelidor7. I remember the caesium one now. It was in a big glass container which did shatter when it was dropped but I think it was dropped into acid, not water. Definitely shattered the glass though.
MrSelidor7 7 months ago
Does it matter that much? Braniac wasn't exactly the most scientific show out there, least something noone I knew ever gave it such credentials?
silvereye27 7 months ago
My teacher showed the braniac episode in my chemistry class. If only I had seen this before..
CasperXNL 7 months ago
So in trying to get people interested in science, Brainiac has essentially told it's audience science is bullshit, compromising the overall goal. Not cool
gramamge33 7 months ago 74
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ScoloCentipede 7 months ago
Holy shit, you can learn stuff on youtube?
HecticSkeptic 7 months ago 51
The show was a complete joke. It was like they were trying to combine a lads' magazine with explosions then slapping a "science bit" on top of it.
If I remember, the show stopped about 4 years ago now. I think they show it sometimes at 5am in the morning though.
retroSLEDGE 7 months ago
Lol every brit knows their stuff is fake, it's all just entertainment. I don't think anything on SKY will be going for education.
kirbymkiiFTW 7 months ago
Thunderf00t you are such a cool guy. I wish you the best of luck in your endeavors.
unchartedexe 7 months ago
What on EARTH is the benefit of LYING about something like this during a supposed scientific experiment? Hype? Being a lover of science, and the scientific method, I cannot help but see these crap "educational" videos as being horribly injurious to science in general. Thanks, Thunderfoot, for what you do.
TZMIndy 7 months ago 2
Love it!
josww2 7 months ago
Sweet!!!
Jaelra 7 months ago
They did the same thing with the coke-tooth exerpiment didnt they?
Catlover123445 7 months ago
is that top gear's Richard Hammond?
abcd1to 7 months ago
I've seen lot's of fakes in "Brainiacs"! It's a dumb show!:)
winterstellar 7 months ago
We watched this in science class, and that's EXACTLY what I was thinking, but no one would listen to me.
AwesomeRants 7 months ago
@AwesomeRants
lar.
Catlover123445 7 months ago
@Catlover123445 lar?
AwesomeRants 7 months ago
By the way, the metal with the lowest electrochemical oxidation voltage is gold. While oxidizing a hydrogen atom in exchange for reducing a lithium ion takes about 3 electron volts, oxidizing a hydrogen atom in exchange for reducing a gold ion releases about 3 electron volts. Assuming the +1 oxidation state that is. I don't know whether that figure was for the 1+ or 3+ state but if it's 3+, then it's 9 electron volts per gold atom. I learned all that when I was interested in electroplating.
medexamtoolsdotcom 7 months ago
The ironic thing here is that the faked videos were probably filmed with cameras powered by rechargeable lithium batteries! And they wouldn't be using lithium in batteries if it didn't have a HIGHER energy density than sodium, which is VASTLY more abundant. 96500 amp seconds is one mole of electrons, enough to oxidize 6 grams of lithium or 150 grams of cesium, and lithium has a HIGHER oxidation voltage to boot, higher than any other metal! More energy per mole on top of more moles per gram!
medexamtoolsdotcom 7 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
This has been known as a fake for some time, at least as far back as 2006 it's been known.
AngryWomble 7 months ago
If Thunderf00t was my honors chemistry teacher I wouldn't have gotten a C+ throughout it :|
Zeldarulah 7 months ago
boring voice
susanwilson13 7 months ago
I do like TF when he sticks to science.
LiamE69 7 months ago
Wow never thought Braniac would do this, i guess its just all about the fancy explosions more than the science, shame really.... :(
JohnJoe18 7 months ago
@JohnJoe18 Really? i figured it out it was fake when i was like 10 lol
DrBlueDot 7 months ago
Brainiac was a show specifically for children, it jus gives them an idea and gets them interested in science, they'd find your version boring and turn off or start reading the bible!!! oh and they use comedy to spice it up. dont cry, go back to religion, it is needed far more!
MrBrittish 7 months ago
Richard "The Hamster" Hammond... He is not even a Hamster!
Bosco239 7 months ago
Man I love understanding new stuff (at least starting to!). Thanks Thunderf00t.
csadler 7 months ago
I'M CALLING MYTHBUSTERS ON THIS ONE !
wedingo 7 months ago 2
It's been a while since I've done any Chemistry, but to me this does seem very bizarre that lithium is the more reactive. I thought the basic rule was that the more electrons an element had, the more reactive it was. A caesium atom has many more electrons than lithium, so they are spread further and further away from its nucleus, and so the outer layers are much more likely to react.
I am being very simplistic here though. Maybe there's some extra factor to take into account I don't know.
Fuzzball70 7 months ago
Damnit... this is depressing. I remember watching the braniac video a while ago. Glad to be shown the truth though. :D
ank0ku 7 months ago
Well done, thank you Tf
ScientistAtheist 7 months ago
Brainiac tend to make things bigger than they are. Their microwaved champagne bottle was manipulated in the same way. I tried that myself, and while it did give a nice bang, it was nothing like what Brainiac makes people believe.
PeterDeprez 7 months ago
Good to see you back to debunking erroneous science Thunderfoot, great video.
sighrd 7 months ago
Richard hammond?? Well no wonder its fake, Top gear folk aren't exactly known for their scientific accuracy, and im sure that carries on into their other shows. They are entertainers.
wrongfire 7 months ago
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MonbaraChan 7 months ago
@BelligerentScotsman
you call exploding water something other than sugar?
pyr666 7 months ago
Only a TERRORIST would have this kind of knowledge about chemical explosives!
theoneknot 7 months ago
@theoneknot He is a science teacher, he is more or less required to know this as part of his career. Anyone who has ever touched on the surface of chemestry would know this already. When watching this, I had predicted what he was going to say before it was said, so I know this is as basic as it could get. There are far more exothermic substances out there that are much easier to transport, lithium reacts with oxygen containing molecules in air. Terrorist breeding knowledge my ass.
dunnyhf 7 months ago
They're not faking it just because, they're faking it because they don't want to teach people how to make real explosives, "similar" effects can be made, but with diffrent substances! Right or wrong, with the evergrowing fear of terrorism, that's how things are going to be! =/
Denmon0728 7 months ago
This atheist in the video needs to read his bible cause the lord his god didnt write nuthinz bout no cesium n sheeeaat
699backstab 7 months ago
I hope terrorists don't watch your videos XD (it's very unlikely that they do)
HomeMadeVinyl 7 months ago
-adjusts glasses and places hands on hips- Isn't science wonderful ladies and gentlemen.
xXShadowEyesXx 7 months ago
I wish Thunderf00t could have taught my chemistry classes in high school :/
Beyondisme 7 months ago 89
@Beyondisme Agreed. Plus a thumbs up for being spot on.
xXShadowEyesXx 7 months ago
@Beyondisme I'm pretty sure my Science Teacher watches Thunderf00t.
sub2me4areview 7 months ago
Brainiac's fakery has been known for quite some time actually.
IAMELIPHAS 7 months ago
@IAMELIPHAS source?
phallictractor 7 months ago
@phallictractor Rationalwiki. Search Brainiac.
IAMELIPHAS 7 months ago
@IAMELIPHAS
Oh cool, not as well expained as this is though. Someone should write up an article and add it.
phallictractor 7 months ago
they disproved this so long ago
miasmablk 7 months ago
It's supposed to be *cough*detonator*cough* Mr.F00t, not *cough*detonator.
JohnTraviss 7 months ago
What tits.
AntiChristAntiFail 7 months ago
You know that Brainiac is a comedy show, right?
xjod9 7 months ago
@xjod9 It's comedy I'll agree with you there but the portions on their show and the lengths they go about explaining things does not add to the comedy. I think they were also trying to add a little information in there and their information here is clearly false.
It's not like the show "Look Around You" where you know it seems to be taking it self seriously but the jokes and tone clash so harshly you know it's a joke. If you don't know what look around you is, look it up. It's awesome.
Xirbtt 7 months ago
VenomfangX is going to use this to make a video "Thunderf00t claims science is fake"
ronpaulbot 7 months ago 98
@ronpaulbot Man we need some youtube drama!!!!! haha
atheistryan 7 months ago
@ronpaulbot
did his comeback stick this time?
pyr666 7 months ago
do you have a degree in chemistry or physics or the like...? I'm just wondering cuz I ran accross your videos on creationism and all that and as a physics student I think you are very educated in some topics, also I saw some of your chemistry experiments and realized you must be very curious...
kajakpaddler92 7 months ago
Brainiac became less and less about real science as the series went on. In fact it kind of feels like a parody of science, even if you may get some very very basic info from it. Mythbusters is MUCH better at making science AND entertainment together.
Nightmare060 7 months ago
I'm always surprise at how little we know about chemical reactions. What the hell do chemists do? It seems like figuring out the exact mechanism in which a reaction occurs is something intuitive but I guess it isn't that easy.
molesniper666 7 months ago
@lordnimr0d Dr steven jones`s studies did find nano-thermite.
61shirley 7 months ago
@61shirley No they didnt. If you actually read the article, he claimed to have found something along the lines of 400 tonnes of "unreacted thermite"
Now I have no idea what the ratio of reacted thermite:unreacted thermite is in a normal burn, but I would wager to get 400 tonnes of unreacted thermite, you would need a titanic amount of thermite to begin with. Certainly not the kind of amounts you could covertly sneak into an occupied building.
passwordresetisbroke 7 months ago
This Brainian video has been known to be false for years.
Anghellik9 7 months ago
great video. you should have a look into the evidence of controlled demolition to building 7 of the world trade centre complex on 9/11. thousands of architects and enginners have started a 911 truth movement for a new investigation. Scientists have found Thermite in the debris of the twin towers.
61shirley 7 months ago
it's not the size of the explosion that matters, it's how slow the replay is.
MrZuluMale 7 months ago
Brainiac was Sky's answer to Mythbusters, except it was so shit and childish no one really gave a toss after a few episodes.
66420192 7 months ago
Very good video, TF.
TKnightcrawler 7 months ago
brilliant stuff TF
skoockum 7 months ago
Awesome video, Science rules !
Thanks for your hard work !
We appreciate it very much.
TheAtheistSocialist 7 months ago
Having flashbacks of General Chem horrors -.-
CosmosFan1 7 months ago
DYNOMIIIITE!!!
GOBFilms 7 months ago
Respect for brainiac just fell drastically.
HRRyan2 7 months ago
I'm really glad you made this video! I always thought that cesium in water was... pretty much like they were showing it.
I'm really disappointed in those guys though. I love watching Top Gear, and I will continue watching it, but it's disappointing to see the guys in it involved in this sort of crap.
Kallibretto 7 months ago
Thanks, TF! I wasn't quite sure what the answer was until you took away those extraneous bits from the equations at 4:55. As soon as you did that, I understood quite quickly! It makes so much sense once you look at it from an ionization energy/atomization energy/solvation standpoint.
Looking forward to more videos like this and religion! :)
TheExtremistModerate 7 months ago
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TheExtremistModerate 7 months ago
I find this incident even more sad because it would've been arguably more entertaining if they had admitted that their chemicals didn't explode as planned, and then they went on to blow up the bathtubs anyway.
WarhawkDrier 7 months ago
Debunking vids are always good, doesn't matter if it's creationism, or just bad science on the tv.
jankuiper3422 7 months ago
I really like these Chemistry videos. I've been avoiding chem 1 for a long time. But now I feel motivated to learn chemistry. Since chem nerds are a less cocky version of physics nerds.
Dracanic 7 months ago
@BelligerentScotsman LOL says the guy REPLYING TO A COMMENT. FUCK you trash.
Nonsensei436 7 months ago
Well done for exposing those fakers!
blackbook668 7 months ago
Outstanding work Tf00t!
iamgoddard 7 months ago
Are you feeling all right today, Thunderf00t? You should make a video on the mechanics of alcohol's effect on the brain. That would be a neat thing to fully understand and bring up in conversations at the bar.
titomvk 7 months ago
"This kind of fakery makes my blood boil"
If you filmed your boiling blood exploding a bath tub you would get more hits than they did.
ctastrophe 7 months ago