we do NOT know the exact history so lets just be quiet unless u have traveled back in time to korea and japan in a time machine.... AND japand tends to HIDE things and refuse to tell things that they did in the past.. who knows somebody mightve created kumdo in korea and japan took the information during the korean war and killed him who knows.. im not taking any sides...
It is no doubt Kendo was born from Japanese samurai culture. There was no kumdo-like thing in Korea at all until Japanese occupation. (I don't mean there was no sword.) After independence, Kendo survived in Korea, and they determinded to call it Kumdo.
Hapkido is okay cuz it's respectively different from Aikido.
But, this Kumdo thing is irritating cuz it is pretending to be originally korean and there seems to be no respect for its father Kendo.
btw just think, japan had controlled korea for sometime, even trying to wipe out korean culture, so we dont really know if kendo/kumdo really originated in korea or japan. it's easy for japan to take credit for creating things like ninjas or something because they were the ones who oppressed and tried to wipe out our language and culture by imposing theirs on us, take credits and make koreans look like japanese when we arent, so we will neve rknow.
is it troo that kumdo focuses more on speed than on technique when it comes to the shia's please respond to this and please be a person that practices kumdo
japanese tried to steel everything from koreans, and koreans orginated Kumdo, kumdo teachings is way different from japanese kendo, FAR MORE DIFFERENT,so shut tha fuck up. Koreans have their own sword fighting and it is much better than the so called kendo.
hey ta2ro us krns do hav our own culture bsides theirs a difference between kendo nd kumdo even though the structure is similar there are differences between the two
Japanese are fed up with korea's unfounded claims that insult the Japanese culture.
They say judo, kendo, manga, samurai, ninja, and all other Japanese cultures originate in Korea, but they can't produce real evidence at all. Unbelievable.
Koreans, please stop copying the Japanese culture if you underestimate Japan, but try to spread YOUR OWN CULTURE IF YOU HAVE ANY!
they took some aspects of kendo, and some aspects of karate, and made it their own. Don't ask what japan got out of korea. there is a huge list.... just to name a few, buddism, confusian beliefs, pottery, and etc.
just like kimgansu laughed at the ridiculous notion of samurai coming from Hwa Rangs, It's stupid to think the likewise about kumdo. PUHAHAHA. While no one wants to admit the obvious, Korean influence in Japan was huge. They took some stuff, and made it their own. Just like when korea took some of japan's stuff when they were under their control.
christ. why all the animosity? why the fervor to prove one side is better than the other? While i don't agree with most of the comments here, i do agree that korean sword stances were usually one handed, while the other held the scabbard. One thing tho, while korea was an impoverished nation before the annexation by japan, it was still after, even more so, since they took all the natural resources. Korea owes Japan nothing. Japan owes Korea nothing.
the word, "kum," means sword in korean, do, is literally translated into, "the way." they are written in chinese characters, so technically, it's not japanese.
Trust me the japanese 'concealed' more things from their textbooks than anything else. If you think this is a lie than you are the most ignorant person in the world.
Korea had the hwarangs that basically had the same rules as the 'samurais' of japan. But the samurai's were more sophisticated and lasted longer then the hwarangs. Korea tried to get rid of any japanese influence in their country after the korean war. If that is bad then why the hell during that time period did korea prosper and become the country it is today?
That didn't work with japan and china now did it? they tried to be hermit. Korea asked japan to help them solve some country issues. The japanese backstabbed korea and annexed it to the japanese empire. They totally wiped out the korean royal family. And yes. Korea was the gateway to japan. Japan adopted alot of traditions from korea BUT they evolved that tradition to make it their own.
atherna your an idiot...you know who took those pictures? the japanese dumb ass yea korea was in poverty no shit. it became a hermit country after the wars with japan in the late 1500's.
Hey, Korean. Before Korea "being merged (South Koreans call it"invasion.")" by Japan in 1900, do you know that Korea was VERY VERY a poverty country in the world? Do you know that even the soul citizen of a capital was living on the ground? Have you seen the photograph?
How many did what can be then called culture exist?
Please read this reference, if you say, "It is a lie! Japanese are liars!"
-----"Korea and Her Neighbours" by Isabella Lucy Bird
Im half korean, obviously im going to side with Korea.
but i still give credit to Japan; because maybe im wrong; maybe Kumdo was originated in Japan; its too far back in history during like SHILLA ERA *not really just example* to find the original roots.
and dont be rude and obnoxious saying that Kumdo is a is an ugly copy of Kendo.
Watching Japanese kendo is EXTREMELY boring than watching Korean Kumdo.
Samurai was actually originated in North Korea, and i forgot what the original name it was in korean before Japan took over Korea. I studied korean history and when Japan took over Korea, wanting to take of China in the first place though, they stole all of Korea's culture. But they also changed it making it the Japanese culture we know now today.
lol, you posted the same thing 4 times, and none in your own words,
You dont study enough history, as you refuse to believe Japanese are original in every form, even when they are guilty of emulating other countries, actually read what i wrote
And, Kendo was said to represent Budo which was based on the spirit of the Japanese Samurai. In this manner, Kendo that we know now is the Kendo that developed through this long historical process.
As a result, a new Kenjutsu training method using Shinai (bamboo swords) was established, and a new type of Kenjutsu competition gained popularity in the local Dojos and spread across the country in the middle of the 19th century (around the end of the Tokugawa Era). Early in the 20th century (after the Meiji Restoration and in the beginning of the Taisho Era), this type of training which was referred to as Gekiken or Kenjutsu was renamed Kendo.
During the 15th and 16th centuries (during the era of warring states and the early Tokugawa Era), many schools of Kenjutsu were established, and in the 18th century (in the middle of the Tokugawa Era) Kendo-gu was developed.
n the middle of the 10th century (Heian Era ) of Japan, swords that had original features of Sori (a slightly arched blade) and Shinogi ( raised ridges of the blade), were made and became the main weapon used in the battlefields. These swords symbolized the Samurai's spirit. From this, the Japanese sword is said to embody the "mind" of the Samurai, and it has developed and flourished as a work of art that represents the strength and beauty of the true "Mind."
Morrison, why do you think they are wearing "Traditional Japanese outfits" , let me ask you this, why do Japanese wear "traditional Chinese outfits"? This is a question with an answer well known to those educated in Asian history. All clothes are influenced by something, and you shuold take it as HONOR to the Japanese that Koreans still do wear Gi and Hakama, you just dig yourself a bigger hole
and for the matter, China ----> Korea ----> Japan, Look at it geographically, Japan has a history of Propaganada and bigoting nationalism, The same Japan that FORCED KOREA TO SPEAK JAPANESE, AND BE JAPANESE IN EVERY WAY. WHY? BECAUSE OF YOUR SICK WARLORDS, AND WHY YOU WONDER WHY YOU DONT HAVE AN ARMY ANYMORE, plus theres the forcing of Korean women to becoming comfort women for the Japanese military, destroying nearly all aspects of Korean culture, claiming most of it for their own
that has to be the most idiotic thing i ever heard, just knowing your Japanese and saying that should make you aware that YOU are being simply, WRONG. No nation has true original specific culture crap, we're all human,
LOL kei, you are so bigoted , and nice google link
Its two different languages, you understand that?
Kendo is the ugly copy of Chinese traditional sword road, Jian Dao
I dont have any hatred towards Japanese, why would I?
I have hatred for those who are Ignorant and full of bigotry like you, Social Structures, Religion, All influence came from China to Japan, and guess what, Korea's in the middle, Koreans steal Japanese "traditional" cultures?
I do not deny all of Kumudo.
However, I spread the rumor that Korea is Korea now by the origin of every Japanese culture.
I do not mind that a Korean refuses acceptance of Japanese culture.
But, for propaganda, I cannot forgive a manner to disgrace traditional culture.
marz12aug 5 years ago
Does that mean that a Korean steals Japanese culture?
Is it to tell a lie that a Korean had the thing which a Korean did not have?
Do you have the document which there was kumdo in the times before Japan annexes Korea?
I regret that many Westerners are deceived by a Korean.
marz12aug 5 years ago
we do NOT know the exact history so lets just be quiet unless u have traveled back in time to korea and japan in a time machine.... AND japand tends to HIDE things and refuse to tell things that they did in the past.. who knows somebody mightve created kumdo in korea and japan took the information during the korean war and killed him who knows.. im not taking any sides...
HeroOfXanadus 5 years ago
kool i go to that dojang to do kumdo
azngotmadskill 5 years ago
It is no doubt Kendo was born from Japanese samurai culture. There was no kumdo-like thing in Korea at all until Japanese occupation. (I don't mean there was no sword.) After independence, Kendo survived in Korea, and they determinded to call it Kumdo.
Hapkido is okay cuz it's respectively different from Aikido.
But, this Kumdo thing is irritating cuz it is pretending to be originally korean and there seems to be no respect for its father Kendo.
xntr 5 years ago
cool video, let's all stop acting like we're experts when it comes to korea's/japan's history
iHateSally 5 years ago
will everyone quit with the japan korea thing?
btw just think, japan had controlled korea for sometime, even trying to wipe out korean culture, so we dont really know if kendo/kumdo really originated in korea or japan. it's easy for japan to take credit for creating things like ninjas or something because they were the ones who oppressed and tried to wipe out our language and culture by imposing theirs on us, take credits and make koreans look like japanese when we arent, so we will neve rknow.
Whitemoonlitnight 5 years ago
v9a9v, what you meant to say was
"It is Kendo. Korea copied it from Japan.
Please do not be deceived by Koreans interested in money-making"
Honestly, if you're going to post anything post it in Japanese so we don't have to be subjected to your mangled english.
Oh and thanks for the public service annoucement. I'll try and stay away from those greedy Koreans.
bonnymab 5 years ago
ok this argument is really messed up and no one's getting anywhere because neither side is getting their facts straight....
blongo 5 years ago
is it troo that kumdo focuses more on speed than on technique when it comes to the shia's please respond to this and please be a person that practices kumdo
cooleric06 5 years ago
japanese tried to steel everything from koreans, and koreans orginated Kumdo, kumdo teachings is way different from japanese kendo, FAR MORE DIFFERENT,so shut tha fuck up. Koreans have their own sword fighting and it is much better than the so called kendo.
dxseo 5 years ago
hey ta2ro us krns do hav our own culture bsides theirs a difference between kendo nd kumdo even though the structure is similar there are differences between the two
xguitarguy 5 years ago
Japanese are fed up with korea's unfounded claims that insult the Japanese culture.
They say judo, kendo, manga, samurai, ninja, and all other Japanese cultures originate in Korea, but they can't produce real evidence at all. Unbelievable.
Koreans, please stop copying the Japanese culture if you underestimate Japan, but try to spread YOUR OWN CULTURE IF YOU HAVE ANY!
ta2ro 5 years ago
lmao doode that is so funny
cooleric06 5 years ago
yea ook korean forgery martial art bull shit, shut the fuck up u dont know anything, this straight up korean martial art u moron
dxseo 5 years ago
Both japanese, and koreans are very proud. Why not make peace, and share with each other? it'll be prosperous for both, and a lot less stressful.
Muck012 5 years ago
they took some aspects of kendo, and some aspects of karate, and made it their own. Don't ask what japan got out of korea. there is a huge list.... just to name a few, buddism, confusian beliefs, pottery, and etc.
Muck012 5 years ago
just like kimgansu laughed at the ridiculous notion of samurai coming from Hwa Rangs, It's stupid to think the likewise about kumdo. PUHAHAHA. While no one wants to admit the obvious, Korean influence in Japan was huge. They took some stuff, and made it their own. Just like when korea took some of japan's stuff when they were under their control.
Muck012 5 years ago
christ. why all the animosity? why the fervor to prove one side is better than the other? While i don't agree with most of the comments here, i do agree that korean sword stances were usually one handed, while the other held the scabbard. One thing tho, while korea was an impoverished nation before the annexation by japan, it was still after, even more so, since they took all the natural resources. Korea owes Japan nothing. Japan owes Korea nothing.
Muck012 5 years ago
the word, "kum," means sword in korean, do, is literally translated into, "the way." they are written in chinese characters, so technically, it's not japanese.
Muck012 5 years ago
Trust me the japanese 'concealed' more things from their textbooks than anything else. If you think this is a lie than you are the most ignorant person in the world.
Hornmush 5 years ago
Korea had the hwarangs that basically had the same rules as the 'samurais' of japan. But the samurai's were more sophisticated and lasted longer then the hwarangs. Korea tried to get rid of any japanese influence in their country after the korean war. If that is bad then why the hell during that time period did korea prosper and become the country it is today?
Hornmush 5 years ago
That didn't work with japan and china now did it? they tried to be hermit. Korea asked japan to help them solve some country issues. The japanese backstabbed korea and annexed it to the japanese empire. They totally wiped out the korean royal family. And yes. Korea was the gateway to japan. Japan adopted alot of traditions from korea BUT they evolved that tradition to make it their own.
Hornmush 5 years ago
atherna your an idiot...you know who took those pictures? the japanese dumb ass yea korea was in poverty no shit. it became a hermit country after the wars with japan in the late 1500's.
Hornmush 5 years ago
atherna your gay just shut up you noob and learn english
d7p2 5 years ago
People in the world may consider like this.
"Koreans are crazy."
However, North Koreans have not noticed that.
And it also says in various places today.
"Japanese people stole South Korean culture!"
Atherna 5 years ago
I mistook.
>> However, Koreans habe not noticed that.
Atherna 5 years ago
These things have not appeared in a South Korean textbook.
The South Korean government conceals true history and is teaching people false history.
I think that the level of brainwash has exceeded even North Korea.
And THEY says. " we are the No.1 races of the world "
this is not a lie .To it being surprised, that is really right.
Atherna 5 years ago
Hey, Korean. Before Korea "being merged (South Koreans call it"invasion.")" by Japan in 1900, do you know that Korea was VERY VERY a poverty country in the world? Do you know that even the soul citizen of a capital was living on the ground? Have you seen the photograph?
How many did what can be then called culture exist?
Please read this reference, if you say, "It is a lie! Japanese are liars!"
-----"Korea and Her Neighbours" by Isabella Lucy Bird
Atherna 5 years ago
Why do Koreans tell a lie? Koreans say.
"Japan stole Korean culture. Because, all culture was transmitted from Korea to Japan via the continent. "
Koreans say that culture and customs of Japan are the South Korean origin.
It is distortion and is perfect "lie."
And why do many South Koreans spread a lie in various places?
Atherna 5 years ago
A rolling stone gathers no moss.
vispork 5 years ago
/bxninj in2004/ -> /bxninjin2004/
/explain2_e.h tml -> /explain2_e.html
Please correct this part.
kimgansu 5 years ago
>Samurai was actually originated in North Korea
PUHAHAHA
Hwa Rangs?
please study
http://www.geocities.jp/bxninjin2004/explain2_e/explain2_e.html
kimgansu 5 years ago
Lets not fight over something like this (:
Im half korean, obviously im going to side with Korea.
but i still give credit to Japan; because maybe im wrong; maybe Kumdo was originated in Japan; its too far back in history during like SHILLA ERA *not really just example* to find the original roots.
and dont be rude and obnoxious saying that Kumdo is a is an ugly copy of Kendo.
Watching Japanese kendo is EXTREMELY boring than watching Korean Kumdo.
sujungx3 5 years ago
example..
Samurai was actually originated in North Korea, and i forgot what the original name it was in korean before Japan took over Korea. I studied korean history and when Japan took over Korea, wanting to take of China in the first place though, they stole all of Korea's culture. But they also changed it making it the Japanese culture we know now today.
sujungx3 5 years ago
ok...um yeah.
i know the whole arguement about the whole
"kendo vs kumdo" thing.
where it originated and everything.
both f0cus and kimgansu i can say both of your beliefs are right. honestly i think Korea is the origin of Kumdo. but i give credit to Japan also.
sujungx3 5 years ago
lol, you posted the same thing 4 times, and none in your own words,
You dont study enough history, as you refuse to believe Japanese are original in every form, even when they are guilty of emulating other countries, actually read what i wrote
f0cus 5 years ago
http://www.geocities.jp/bxninjin2004/
let's study＾＾
kimgansu 5 years ago
hey,f0cus
study history
Kumdo is ugly copy of japanese kendo.
kimgansu 5 years ago
beauty is in the eye of the beholder. i think both have it's merits.
Muck012 5 years ago
And, Kendo was said to represent Budo which was based on the spirit of the Japanese Samurai. In this manner, Kendo that we know now is the Kendo that developed through this long historical process.
kimgansu 5 years ago
As a result, a new Kenjutsu training method using Shinai (bamboo swords) was established, and a new type of Kenjutsu competition gained popularity in the local Dojos and spread across the country in the middle of the 19th century (around the end of the Tokugawa Era). Early in the 20th century (after the Meiji Restoration and in the beginning of the Taisho Era), this type of training which was referred to as Gekiken or Kenjutsu was renamed Kendo.
kimgansu 5 years ago
During the 15th and 16th centuries (during the era of warring states and the early Tokugawa Era), many schools of Kenjutsu were established, and in the 18th century (in the middle of the Tokugawa Era) Kendo-gu was developed.
kimgansu 5 years ago
n the middle of the 10th century (Heian Era ) of Japan, swords that had original features of Sori (a slightly arched blade) and Shinogi ( raised ridges of the blade), were made and became the main weapon used in the battlefields. These swords symbolized the Samurai's spirit. From this, the Japanese sword is said to embody the "mind" of the Samurai, and it has developed and flourished as a work of art that represents the strength and beauty of the true "Mind."
kimgansu 5 years ago
Morrison, why do you think they are wearing "Traditional Japanese outfits" , let me ask you this, why do Japanese wear "traditional Chinese outfits"? This is a question with an answer well known to those educated in Asian history. All clothes are influenced by something, and you shuold take it as HONOR to the Japanese that Koreans still do wear Gi and Hakama, you just dig yourself a bigger hole
f0cus 5 years ago
Yea you gave us Kendo, but in Korean its Kumdo, and we're good at it, so dont be scared.
f0cus 5 years ago
and for the matter, China ----> Korea ----> Japan, Look at it geographically, Japan has a history of Propaganada and bigoting nationalism, The same Japan that FORCED KOREA TO SPEAK JAPANESE, AND BE JAPANESE IN EVERY WAY. WHY? BECAUSE OF YOUR SICK WARLORDS, AND WHY YOU WONDER WHY YOU DONT HAVE AN ARMY ANYMORE, plus theres the forcing of Korean women to becoming comfort women for the Japanese military, destroying nearly all aspects of Korean culture, claiming most of it for their own
f0cus 5 years ago
that has to be the most idiotic thing i ever heard, just knowing your Japanese and saying that should make you aware that YOU are being simply, WRONG. No nation has true original specific culture crap, we're all human,
f0cus 5 years ago
LOL kei, you are so bigoted , and nice google link
Its two different languages, you understand that?
Kendo is the ugly copy of Chinese traditional sword road, Jian Dao
I dont have any hatred towards Japanese, why would I?
I have hatred for those who are Ignorant and full of bigotry like you, Social Structures, Religion, All influence came from China to Japan, and guess what, Korea's in the middle, Koreans steal Japanese "traditional" cultures?
f0cus 5 years ago
Explanation:
Generally, Koreans steal Japanese traditional cultures.
For example, the title of this video includes the word, "Kumdo".
It's just an ugly copy of Japanese traditional sword road, "Kendo".
See this,
http://www.kendo.or.jp/english-page/english-page2/brief-history-of-kendo.htm
kei1999 5 years ago
kendo(o)
komdo(x)
kimgansu 5 years ago
Why are all the Kumdo players wearing Japanese traditional outfits?
morrison47 5 years ago 2
thats hot
f0cus 5 years ago