its interesting how everything Israel does, they blame Hamas, or they put Hamas into the equation, but we tend to forget that Hamas came after the occupation, not before the occupation
I say that the Palestinians are not innocent, the idiots elected the HAMAS and they let the HAMAS use them as shields. If anyone was to use my home as a shield I would let the authorities know and in this case the authorities would be the Israelis!
The Gaza is ruled by the HAMAS, do you not what most people say about the HAMAS? Hiding Among Mosque And Schools! It is a well known fact that the HAMAS will launch their rockets and Mortars in and around cemeteries, civilian homes, schools, Mosques, and hospitals. Anywhere there are Innocent people so that when there is a counter attack innocent people will be killed, and injured. And then whose fault is it, the HAMAS, NOo, not the cowards HAMAS, it's Israel's fault.
Mark Regev .. Not his real name , We all know when he tells lies .. His lips are moving !
In WW2 Hitler had an English "toff" who in a posh english accent broadcasted from Germany propaganda , his catch phrase was " Germany Calling " " Germany Calling " ..After the war he was captured and hanged by the British ( allthough he took German citizenship ) Hopefully the same will happen to the war criminal Regev
Mark Regev is an Australian born in Melbourne. His real name is Mark Freiberg, he is one of those little men that want to be something, so he went to Israel and joined a kibbutz, the breeding ground for the mad. Zionists believe his lies and think the rest of us are stupid, he wants to be powerful and to have the right to kill and do as he pleases, Israel is magnate for this type of person, most of them are not born there so are immigrants brought in as colonists and settlers.
@5000433 -Your juvenile comment proves my point. Regev is a proven ZioNazi scumbag and Israel is today even more of a pariah and blight unto nations that it was when I originally posted my comment.
@JDGillis61 Yes of course. In your islamonazi facilitating universe of course.
"palestine" is free by the way. It was liberated in 1948, and the western provinces of Judea and Samaria were freed in 1967. It has reverted to its real name. Israel.
Reality proves that 1 year on, the fakestinians have been proven to be lying war criminals.
Look at this twat the biggest spin doctor of the century, who believes a word he says, he is nothing but a cowardly liar dedicated to defend Israel at every level.
Hitler once responded in an interview, when asked why he didn't kill all the Jews - "I wanted to leave some, so that the rest of the world realise why I killed so many in the first place"
@ilovetopickmynose of couuuuuurse didn't yo u hear the news,.... his GOD told him, he also gave him israel and the authority to deceive the gentile...its all in the bible dude.... and if all else fails bring up the holocaust and anti-semitism
BBC is british_ GREAT!!! soon you will get what muslims prepar for you. besides, check PALLYWOOD industry, check the criminal organizations called UN and UNRAW you will all be surprised.
Funny that the most criminal country the experts of genocides, the UK dares to speak!!! those who murder in Afghanistan and Iraq thuosands of people have no right to preech Israel defending itself!! Now deal with the Sharia law that is going to take over you soon.
Mark Regev seems pathologically incapable of staying on topic. Every video I've seen of him he responds to every testing question by talking about something totally irrelevant and hoping no one will notice.
I supose if you were an actor and wanted to play a real bady, someone truly replusive than what better material than the interviews of Mark Regev during the Gaza war.
There is a systematic pattern of behavior that entails addressing questions that one would prefer have been asked -- on the pretense of answering the question that WAS asked...
Israel is so sure that they didn't do anything wrong that they cover the faces of their officers on national tv and are afraid to travel into some countries, because they might get arrested for charges of warcrimes.
Then, why is Israel censoring even its own reporters. Mark Regev is the master of lies, well not only Mark, but the Israel government as well. Israel is using human shields not the Palestinians.
Where is Israels credibility, supporting apartheid.
I wonder how much do they pay this guy to lie for them and shoot back huge amounts of hypocrisy?
Mark Regev, the racists and real terrorists at the Knesset in Jerusalem and all the mindless Israel supporters should all be in a pool full of shit with their heads buried.
10 or even 5 years ago, the world would have believe this B.S. , but now the world knows that israel is ran by extremest zionist who think they have the right to do what ever they want.
ask Regev why the US deals with the Saudis when they dont and WONT recognize the Zionist terrorist state and why the Zionist state is stealing Gaza's gas reserves with slant drilling which the same thing prompted Saddam to invade Kuwait.....I can go on and on...
It has become clearer and clearer over the years that Zionism =Nazism. The question is will the world stand up to Israel and its blatant and calculated eradication of the indigenous Palestinians?
The US State Department Near East Division, & the spokesman for the entire State Department, (Weinberger, Shultz, Albright serving Zionist Protocol), is occupied 100% by Zionist Israelis
There are no Americans there, no Christians, no Jordanians, no Egyptians there - ONLY Zionist Israelis
Refer interview of Kay Griggs, (wife of US Marine Corps Colonel George Griggs)
All under the table weapon sales go through the State Department for CIA & Israeli profits, (why Ron Brown was murdered)
In 1967, during the Six Day War, Israel again committed a grievous terrorist act against the United States of America. On June 8, Israel used unmarked fighters and torpedo boats to launch an hour and one-half attack on the American Navy ship the USS Liberty and then sent in torpedo boats to finish the job. Why did Israel use UNMARKED FIGHTERS to ATTACK USS Liberty?
Answer: Blame Egyptians for the attack & to thereby get the US to send its young boys to fight for the Israeli Zionist criminals!
Rabbi Dov Zakheim Co-author of the PNAC paper on rebuilding Americas defenses advocating the necessity of a Pearl Harbor-like incident to mobilize America. Served as Pentagon comptroller from May 4, 2001 to March 10, 2004. Two large sums of money disappeared from the Pentagon under him: $2.3 trillion was reported (September 10, 2001) & later Zakheim was unable to account for another trillion dollars; & sold squads of American F-15s and F-16s to Israel at a fraction of their value
Douglas Feith Israeli Zionist headed reconstruction in Iraq. Effectively in command, with Wolfowitz, of War Department on 9-11; Undersecretary of War for Policy. Fired from National Security Council in 1976 due to suspicion of passing classified documents to Israel. Dual Citizen of US-Israel.
Created the Office of Special Plans shortly after 9/11 which was where all of the fake intelligence accusing Iraq of developing WMDs and having ties to Al Qaida came from.
Treat them like "dogs," said Moshe Dayan, so they'll leave. Use "terror, assassination, intimidation, land confiscation," and more was David Ben-Gurion's formula. Today it's unilateral separation, "de-Arabization," isolation, confinement, and destroying the will to resist with intermittent conflict and mass slaughter for reinforcement.
Israel's aim:
-- purifying Israel as a Jewish state (like the Nazis tried in Germany) by removing its Arab population
Jacob "Kobi" Alexander, an Israeli military officer connected to the Odigo instant messaging company whose employees and users received an early warning of the 9/11 attacks, has recently become a fugitive from U.S. justice and taken refuge in Israel along with other prime suspects of the terror attacks.
Madoff's has very close and long-standing business ties to the directors and owners of two of Israel's largest banks, which were privatized in 2005-06 under Israeli finance ministers Benjamin Netanyahu and Ehud Olmert: Bank Leumi and Israel Discount Bank. It is a matter of record that the IDB has a history of money-laundering and illegal money transfers.
Jacob Ezra Merkin, who funneled hundreds of millions if not billions of dollars to Madoff's fund, is co-owner of Bank Leumi.
Regev, the sociopathic, supremacist Zionist state's hasbara-merchant-in-chief, once again resorts to using misdirection and blatant lies in an attempt to downplay the murderous, illegal practises of the Israeli Occupation Forces.
He talks about witnesses being intimidated by hamas so what about the IDF soldiers from Breaking the Silence who tell us exactly the opposite to what Regev alledges ie shooting and killing civilians openly with commanders taking part, human shields using Palestinian children etc! what a disgrace, I am a Christian and to think there are so many fellow Christians who support Israel despite the evidence because "Israel is in Gods plans" is an insult to my religion and intelligence.
completely dismisses any facts from ballistics and eye witnesses. well bollocks to this! I don't need no "internal report" to know acts of genocide were committed.
Here he is. Israel's answer to Joseph Goebbels. No. In fact he's much worse. Regev is a cold blooded Nazi.
davymgaunt 1 month ago
what a liar. Mark Regev you pathetic twat you and your zionist regime will meet there end. THE WORLD IS SICK OF YOU DOGS
hasanbana 4 months ago 2
its interesting how everything Israel does, they blame Hamas, or they put Hamas into the equation, but we tend to forget that Hamas came after the occupation, not before the occupation
EnterTheTruth 6 months ago
The one thing which Israelis does the best a part from killing civilians is lying.
JAVEDRUHI 6 months ago
Good job Mr. Regev!
theromashka1 7 months ago
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CRITICISM OF ISRAEL OR ZIONISM....
I-S
N-O-T
A-N-T-I S-E-M-I-T-I-C
But STATE TERRORIST murder of civilians in Palestine is I-N-H-U-M-A-N-E
Hold Israel to account!
ENFORCE peace!
Remove America's veto at the U.N.
(which is always used to protect Israel and its WAR CRIMES)
BlackRoof 7 months ago
fucking lieing cunt
70littonmiah 7 months ago
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I say that the Palestinians are not innocent, the idiots elected the HAMAS and they let the HAMAS use them as shields. If anyone was to use my home as a shield I would let the authorities know and in this case the authorities would be the Israelis!
Yahuda101 9 months ago
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The Gaza is ruled by the HAMAS, do you not what most people say about the HAMAS? Hiding Among Mosque And Schools! It is a well known fact that the HAMAS will launch their rockets and Mortars in and around cemeteries, civilian homes, schools, Mosques, and hospitals. Anywhere there are Innocent people so that when there is a counter attack innocent people will be killed, and injured. And then whose fault is it, the HAMAS, NOo, not the cowards HAMAS, it's Israel's fault.
Yahuda101 9 months ago
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WARNING: TO PREVENT INSULT TO YOUR INTELLECT, PLEASE CLOSE YOUR EARS WHEN REGEV OPENS HIS GODDAMN MOUTH.
sadekgheidan 9 months ago
Regevs words have been proved absolutely CORRECT a year later, and islamonazi dhimmi lies have once again been exposed.
Go Mark!!!
5000433 1 year ago
Regev is a genius and a great man. A million times bigger than the dhimmi worms he has to "talk" to.
Israel advance!!
5000433 1 year ago
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Mark Regev .. Not his real name , We all know when he tells lies .. His lips are moving !
In WW2 Hitler had an English "toff" who in a posh english accent broadcasted from Germany propaganda , his catch phrase was " Germany Calling " " Germany Calling " ..After the war he was captured and hanged by the British ( allthough he took German citizenship ) Hopefully the same will happen to the war criminal Regev
FranekM 1 year ago
It seems that Mark Regev needs to study English from kinder garden.
he just ignore what reporter is asking and just say what he wants to say.
what a dumb ass.
koreax707 1 year ago 5
@koreax707 Regev was proved right. The beeboid dhimmi moron was pedelling arab funded lies. AS USUAL.
People are waking up all round the world to islamofascist lies.
5000433 1 year ago
pathetic!
doghartdon 1 year ago
@doghartdon Indeed al-bbc is dhimmi pathetic. Well said!
5000433 1 year ago
Mark Regev is an Australian born in Melbourne. His real name is Mark Freiberg, he is one of those little men that want to be something, so he went to Israel and joined a kibbutz, the breeding ground for the mad. Zionists believe his lies and think the rest of us are stupid, he wants to be powerful and to have the right to kill and do as he pleases, Israel is magnate for this type of person, most of them are not born there so are immigrants brought in as colonists and settlers.
TheCountBernadotte1 1 year ago
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Regev is an evil piece of shit.
19996669991 1 year ago
Israel is a pariah; truly a blight unto nations.
JDGillis 1 year ago 3
@JDGillis And you are a cocksucker.
5000433 1 year ago
@5000433 -Your juvenile comment proves my point. Regev is a proven ZioNazi scumbag and Israel is today even more of a pariah and blight unto nations that it was when I originally posted my comment.
Free Palestine!
JDGillis61 1 year ago 4
@JDGillis61 Yes of course. In your islamonazi facilitating universe of course.
"palestine" is free by the way. It was liberated in 1948, and the western provinces of Judea and Samaria were freed in 1967. It has reverted to its real name. Israel.
Reality proves that 1 year on, the fakestinians have been proven to be lying war criminals.
Fakestine = "Jordan"
5000433 1 year ago
they are allways ivesigating
StraussBR 1 year ago 2
Ok Mr Regev, Human Rights Watch say that you, sir, are a cunt...What is your response?
pimpman50 1 year ago 6
@pimpman50 I would give you an Award for the Best Comment of the Year, if only one existed.
Tzimnewman3 1 year ago
This man is the biggest bullshitter and biased propoganda spin doctor the world has ever seen, what a liar!
Truegeeza 1 year ago
Look at this twat the biggest spin doctor of the century, who believes a word he says, he is nothing but a cowardly liar dedicated to defend Israel at every level.
Truegeeza 1 year ago
what a jack-ass. that is what we call dodging the question.
djphlange 1 year ago
omg his response is almost identical to his recent jon snow interview man 2010! same old script huh
ammart87 1 year ago
Hitler once responded in an interview, when asked why he didn't kill all the Jews - "I wanted to leave some, so that the rest of the world realise why I killed so many in the first place"
saqster 1 year ago
down with israhell zionism cancer must be stopped now before it spreads out.
Moroccan4lifeone 1 year ago
So, basically what Regev is saying is, "The whole world is wrong, we are right"
ilovetopickmynose 1 year ago
@ilovetopickmynose of couuuuuurse didn't yo u hear the news,.... his GOD told him, he also gave him israel and the authority to deceive the gentile...its all in the bible dude.... and if all else fails bring up the holocaust and anti-semitism
jawadad802 1 year ago
Fuck u isreal
troir 1 year ago
fuck the BBC. its such a biased bullshit channel. fucking cunts
fuckyourumbrella 1 year ago
BBC is british_ GREAT!!! soon you will get what muslims prepar for you. besides, check PALLYWOOD industry, check the criminal organizations called UN and UNRAW you will all be surprised.
Funny that the most criminal country the experts of genocides, the UK dares to speak!!! those who murder in Afghanistan and Iraq thuosands of people have no right to preech Israel defending itself!! Now deal with the Sharia law that is going to take over you soon.
PEACE 8D
gingerXLL 1 year ago
Mark Regev seems pathologically incapable of staying on topic. Every video I've seen of him he responds to every testing question by talking about something totally irrelevant and hoping no one will notice.
kadaveri 2 years ago
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ilovetopickmynose 2 years ago
I supose if you were an actor and wanted to play a real bady, someone truly replusive than what better material than the interviews of Mark Regev during the Gaza war.
SuperShoe09786 2 years ago
There is a systematic pattern of behavior that entails addressing questions that one would prefer have been asked -- on the pretense of answering the question that WAS asked...
KeeperOfTheWord 2 years ago 2
Have you noticed if you take out israel and around all the jews up and kill them all then the arabs loose theyre religion for good!
salekh01 2 years ago
Israel is so sure that they didn't do anything wrong that they cover the faces of their officers on national tv and are afraid to travel into some countries, because they might get arrested for charges of warcrimes.
Dengatube 2 years ago 7
Israel has become so pathetic!
pervisirani 2 years ago 32
@pervisirani Wow, 3526 ppl missed the like button...
donrainesoh 1 year ago
This pisses me off. Makes me wish Hitler should have finished these pigs off.
Ramunited1 2 years ago 4
Ramunited
there is a difference between a zioNAZI and a jew
many jews are good people
but i would love to see these zioNAZI killed like dogs and there bodies left to rott
TheBigT89 2 years ago 5
Mark Regev.Lyin in Zion.How can he keep straight face.Zionist Bastard>
billyhunchback 2 years ago 5
Is there any creature worst than Zionists in our planet?
perazh 2 years ago 5
Pathetic..
Miradin 2 years ago 29
Indeed... you could even have pity of him. Poor guy.
JuliendAnce 2 years ago 3
Then, why is Israel censoring even its own reporters. Mark Regev is the master of lies, well not only Mark, but the Israel government as well. Israel is using human shields not the Palestinians.
Where is Israels credibility, supporting apartheid.
MaxZagar 2 years ago 9
I wonder how much do they pay this guy to lie for them and shoot back huge amounts of hypocrisy?
Mark Regev, the racists and real terrorists at the Knesset in Jerusalem and all the mindless Israel supporters should all be in a pool full of shit with their heads buried.
sh3nk 2 years ago
ladies and gentlemen, joseph goebbels.
and FuneralFragz is correct
Jews = good people
Zionists = nazi jews
bender183 2 years ago 9
10 or even 5 years ago, the world would have believe this B.S. , but now the world knows that israel is ran by extremest zionist who think they have the right to do what ever they want.
Jews = good people over all.
Zionist = Nazi Jews.
Truth hurts....
FuneralFragz 2 years ago 3
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bravo israel !
MrJapaneseboy1111 2 years ago
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joe stork ( HRW)
the composer of the ""Waving white flags"
aligations is a nown left radicalist that support the distration of israel and supported the munich massacre.
MrJapaneseboy1111 2 years ago
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god bless israel !
jews for judea !
arabs back to arabian peninsula !
MrJapaneseboy1111 2 years ago
i'd love to see u move to israel and watch how the israelis spit on u for being a slant-eyed non-jew :)
rlinfinity 2 years ago 2
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"The yellow badge (or yellow patch)",
was first introduced in ISLAMIC countries
to subrogate jews,christians and bahai
from the local ISLAMIC population long before the NAZIS!
60% of the jews in israel ("mizrahi jews")
are refugees from ISLAMIC countries!
the first documented massacre in the holy land
is the Hebron massacre 1929.
google "Jewish exodus from Arab lands" "yellow badge" "plunder of Safed 1834" "Farhud" "Dhimmi" "Tiberias massacre"
MrJapaneseboy1111 2 years ago
Regev, liar, scumbag, war criminal.
--
Rot in hell regev
ThunderDog97 2 years ago 9
Regev is a turd..
ask Regev why the US deals with the Saudis when they dont and WONT recognize the Zionist terrorist state and why the Zionist state is stealing Gaza's gas reserves with slant drilling which the same thing prompted Saddam to invade Kuwait.....I can go on and on...
VIVA la Palestine...
flyyspit 2 years ago 9
Regev can hardly suppress his mocking grin.
Underdogness 2 years ago 6
Mark Regev is a Mossad agent, a Zionist spokesperson, who specializes in lies and deceit
Israels world network of sayanims, neo con puppets and useful idiots, are all guilty of treason and crimes against humanity
Israel is a racist, apartheid, terrorist, false flag op specialist state
9/11 was a Zionist inside job
the war on terror is bogus
it's all Zionist manufactured terrorism
anti-Zionist Jews have real ethics and morals, and are great people
there is good and bad in every race,
brianconcannon44 2 years ago 8
Jawohl Herr Goebbels.
It has become clearer and clearer over the years that Zionism =Nazism. The question is will the world stand up to Israel and its blatant and calculated eradication of the indigenous Palestinians?
vmeister11 2 years ago 5
Why is he bitching about Saudi?? He should be appreciating these spineless pro-western dictatorships for not being hostile to Israel!
zizoubilly 2 years ago 6
The US State Department Near East Division, & the spokesman for the entire State Department, (Weinberger, Shultz, Albright serving Zionist Protocol), is occupied 100% by Zionist Israelis
There are no Americans there, no Christians, no Jordanians, no Egyptians there - ONLY Zionist Israelis
Refer interview of Kay Griggs, (wife of US Marine Corps Colonel George Griggs)
All under the table weapon sales go through the State Department for CIA & Israeli profits, (why Ron Brown was murdered)
sugarpuddin88 2 years ago 4
Wow some good comments, and NO Megaphone ones, has the app malfuntioned?
setfree68 2 years ago
google for taj-sachs syndrome and u have the answer why the zionist jews are such psychos and believe their own bs lies.
horror11 2 years ago
Isn't it tay-sachs?
Jenkstill 2 years ago
In 1967, during the Six Day War, Israel again committed a grievous terrorist act against the United States of America. On June 8, Israel used unmarked fighters and torpedo boats to launch an hour and one-half attack on the American Navy ship the USS Liberty and then sent in torpedo boats to finish the job. Why did Israel use UNMARKED FIGHTERS to ATTACK USS Liberty?
Answer: Blame Egyptians for the attack & to thereby get the US to send its young boys to fight for the Israeli Zionist criminals!
sugarpuddin88 2 years ago 4
its both :)
horror11 2 years ago
Rabbi Dov Zakheim Co-author of the PNAC paper on rebuilding Americas defenses advocating the necessity of a Pearl Harbor-like incident to mobilize America. Served as Pentagon comptroller from May 4, 2001 to March 10, 2004. Two large sums of money disappeared from the Pentagon under him: $2.3 trillion was reported (September 10, 2001) & later Zakheim was unable to account for another trillion dollars; & sold squads of American F-15s and F-16s to Israel at a fraction of their value
sugarpuddin88 2 years ago 5
weren't these the jets that were sold for $5 dollars each?
Jenkstill 2 years ago
Mark is a piece of garbage.
Spawn from Satan.
tbgx1 2 years ago 4
Douglas Feith Israeli Zionist headed reconstruction in Iraq. Effectively in command, with Wolfowitz, of War Department on 9-11; Undersecretary of War for Policy. Fired from National Security Council in 1976 due to suspicion of passing classified documents to Israel. Dual Citizen of US-Israel.
Created the Office of Special Plans shortly after 9/11 which was where all of the fake intelligence accusing Iraq of developing WMDs and having ties to Al Qaida came from.
sugarpuddin88 2 years ago
Down with Israel.
tbgx1 2 years ago
Treat them like "dogs," said Moshe Dayan, so they'll leave. Use "terror, assassination, intimidation, land confiscation," and more was David Ben-Gurion's formula. Today it's unilateral separation, "de-Arabization," isolation, confinement, and destroying the will to resist with intermittent conflict and mass slaughter for reinforcement.
Israel's aim:
-- purifying Israel as a Jewish state (like the Nazis tried in Germany) by removing its Arab population
sugarpuddin88 2 years ago
Everytime Regev open his mouth you will hear only lies! He has a bad character!
YousufM24 2 years ago 2
Jacob "Kobi" Alexander, an Israeli military officer connected to the Odigo instant messaging company whose employees and users received an early warning of the 9/11 attacks, has recently become a fugitive from U.S. justice and taken refuge in Israel along with other prime suspects of the terror attacks.
sugarpuddin88 2 years ago
Israeli terrorism must be finished. And America must stop supporting and protecting terrorism of Israel.
mixyguy6 2 years ago 2
Madoff's has very close and long-standing business ties to the directors and owners of two of Israel's largest banks, which were privatized in 2005-06 under Israeli finance ministers Benjamin Netanyahu and Ehud Olmert: Bank Leumi and Israel Discount Bank. It is a matter of record that the IDB has a history of money-laundering and illegal money transfers.
Jacob Ezra Merkin, who funneled hundreds of millions if not billions of dollars to Madoff's fund, is co-owner of Bank Leumi.
sugarpuddin88 2 years ago
have some dignity israel
whoareyapauldunn 2 years ago
How would they have dignity when they
have no credibility ,humanity or respect
to any international law !
xluuuluuux 2 years ago
what can i say... we live in a false reality....
whoareyapauldunn 2 years ago
We left the false reality for the stupid
and the ignorance , who had neglected
the rationality of looking into facts and
donated it to the audio-visual media
to manipulate it, and direct it as they like.
xluuuluuux 2 years ago
this guy is such a sack of shit
Ayrshirenutter 2 years ago 8
Regev, the sociopathic, supremacist Zionist state's hasbara-merchant-in-chief, once again resorts to using misdirection and blatant lies in an attempt to downplay the murderous, illegal practises of the Israeli Occupation Forces.
huckteeper 2 years ago 3
He talks about witnesses being intimidated by hamas so what about the IDF soldiers from Breaking the Silence who tell us exactly the opposite to what Regev alledges ie shooting and killing civilians openly with commanders taking part, human shields using Palestinian children etc! what a disgrace, I am a Christian and to think there are so many fellow Christians who support Israel despite the evidence because "Israel is in Gods plans" is an insult to my religion and intelligence.
antiwarcampaigner 2 years ago 2
this creature is incapable of guilt, empathy or truthtelling. israel is truly a demonic "state."
777antzon 2 years ago 6
Regev demonstrates the supremacist yid's unabashed pride in speaking audacious lies about murdering non-Jews.
onefodderunit 2 years ago 2
He is obviously lying.
XsNtR90X 2 years ago 3
Mark Regev reminds me of Muhammad Saeed al-Sahhaf
sleeplessintokyo 2 years ago
completely dismisses any facts from ballistics and eye witnesses. well bollocks to this! I don't need no "internal report" to know acts of genocide were committed.
minteko 2 years ago 5