Amityville Horror - Primetime Live - 2 of 3

[721rem]

NOTICE ALL WERE ON THEIR STOMACHS WHEN THEY WERE SHOT. GUNSHOTS ARE LOUD BLASTS. WHY DIDNT ANYONE WAKE UP AFTER HEARING 1, 2,3 LOUD BANGS??? I FEEL THEY WERE ALL FORCED DOWN AND UNABLE TO MOVE AS THAT DEMON (NOT THE KILLER BUT AN ACTUAL ENTITY) ALLOWED MURDER TO TAKE PLACE.

[MysteriousGirlof2011]

@MysteriousGirlof2011 what is so creepy aabout food being left in the refrigerator. who would take food with them anyway. taking food with you is whats creepy.i seriously think george is lying. wheen u lie for so many yrs u can instantly keep the lie going. an unseen hand slaps him. LOL.

[bustballz]

This story is 100% true.

[86Stooy]

I believe some strange things happened to the Lutz family but when Webber and the media got word of it it all got blown out of context.

[SuperJonahhex]

LUTZ IS TELLING THE TRUTH U CAN TELL IT WHEN U LOOK INTO HIS EYES U CAN SEE THE FEAR IN HIS EYES AND THE EMOTIONS THAT U CANT FAKE OR MAYBE THEY MAN SHOULD JUST GET AN OSCAR FOR HIS ACTING I BELIEVE U LUTZ.

[SPNWnewswire]

5:45 The first place to start with the "little boy" is the flanel shirt. Anybody in the team wearing a flanel shirt that night? Yes, at least one man (don't know the name). He had side burns, and they would not show up due to the angle and interference from the bannister. He may be in a kneeling position.

[highwaymanartist]

@SPNWnewswire If we go with that theory that it's a man in a flannel shirt and we even suggest that the glowie eyes are from a reflection of the camera/flash and effectively black and white red eye to my eyes in full screen I see noone kneeling behind the banisters and that face is a child. not a man. Still it's all perception at the end of the day right. who can know for sure

[rushindulen]

grown-ass people on tv lying. damn shame.

[721rem]

@rushindulen you're an idiot and you should be glad and even grateful that you can say such a thing obviously not having ever experienced such nightmares. i however DID and still do live it and it isnt anything we'd play with. no liar takes his family out of a home and leaves everything over a lie. he was hardworking, brought a home and was providing for a wife and 5 kids. he has nothing to gain from leaving a beautiful plush home after only 28 damn days.

[thedarthflagger]

the lutzes were into transcendental meditation which may have opened them up to these occurances.

[elenamarie29]

the old guy tells the truth he even got tears in his eyes as hes sharing his experienced.

[thegritch42]

Ronald Defeo has lied several times over. George Lutz' story has not changed.  Although the "movie" embellished on several things for entertainment purposes. I believe George Lutz. Period.

[Phil19780]

Kathy levitated and went right of the bed... Really? :/

[papichulobumber1]

Point one, this shit makes money for Lutz, dont know if its allot. But he gets payed for telling his story. Point two, if you lived in a haunted place, would you stay there for 28 days? Point 3. the slime, where is it? did he just throw it away? did it mysteriously vanish? point 4, that photo, its easy to trick a photo, plus its in their interest to do so, if they find nothing each time, they're out of a job. Point 5, Why doesnt anybody of his family backup his story, was Lutz himself a madman?

[FriendshipTown]

Most of the events happened during the last week of the Lutzes' month-long stay. Before those final few days, the Lutzes felt there must be a rational explanation for the events. Then they felt they could deal with it. Then they felt they needed to move out and let professionals try to deal with it.

As far as them being "out of a job" - what job would that be?

And the rest of his family DOES claim the haunting was real.

[FriendshipTown]

There was no slime oozing from the walls, but they did find slime on the carpets. They said they thought it was Jello. They scooped it all up, thew it away and blamed the kids.

The next time this happened, the kids weren't there, so they couldn't be blamed.

Why wouldn't they throw it away? They didn't know what caused it, but that didn't mean they felt it was from a supernatural source. It was only when looking back at the events that they recognized things like this as possibly being related.

[papichulobumber1]

Regarding the photo, i was talking about "the psykick posse" that stayed a night in the house after the family left. If those "ghost missions" keep leading nowhere, soon nobody will call them anymore. Presenting this kind of "proof" makes money for the ghost industry(psycics, mediums etc) Its like planting a seed and let the imagination do the rest.Most of these people are quacks that dont even believe in what they do. They just want your money.

[papichulobumber1]

Picture this, in the history of mankind billions upon billions have died, where are their ghosts? it should be swarming with them. Also, where did they draw the line, we came from ape-like creatures, at what point did we get the right to be ghosts? Do gorillas and chimps become ghosts to? dinosaur ghosts? the cavemen? spirits came with man's inteligence,searching for answers but comming up broke. We have this big brain that can make you do and see things, ghosts exist in its over capacity

[stitchesful]

@papichulobumber1 All very good points. I also believe the whole thing is a hoax, or at least very exaggerated.

[721rem]

@papichulobumber1 who wouldnt accept payment after having been through loosing everything you owned, materially as well as loosing your mind almost?

[APRIL62318]

he looks awfull familliar jose baez anybody

[APRIL62318]

he also did not kill the dog as in the 2005 movie

[HotRodOtis]

Apparently George just couldn't let go of that 1970's hairstyle.

[TheBritanya]

in the movie it wasn't slim coming out of the walls it was blood.

[stuh1975]

I wouldnt even want to watch the remake of the amityville horror if you paid me. However on a lighter note, that Laura Didio back in the day was hot hot hot!!!!!

[marcusa222]

The youngest son who lived in the house said nothing ever happened in the house. Lutz was his adopted father. He said the only real thing from the film was the fact the family moved in and then moved out...NOTHING creepy happened. It was all explained by the fact they used old furniture that might have had bodily fluid from the murder victims on them causing 'some' flies. BUT nothing major. One window could be open and shut if you jumped on and down on a squeeky board (window weights off).

[FriendshipTown]

Wrong. Chris said the haunting was real, but he blamed his step-father for the exaggerations in the books and movies. There is a 2005 interview with Chris on Inside Edition where he clearly states this and speaks of a ghostly encounter he had in that house.

The house was professionally cleaned before being put up for sale. There was no blood or bodily fluids left on furniture. The beds the victims were killed upon were destroyed when extracting spent bullets from them. Lutzes had their own beds

[marcusa222]

@FriendshipTown : Read Chris' lawsuit that stated nothing happened in the house. That is why he sued his father(adopted). His father didn't want him publishing a book that said this. The interview where he said things happeded was old (from when his mother was alive). Just a couple years ago he went to publish a book that nothing happened (and this pissed off his step dad and a lawsuit started..then George died)...look it up. It's actually a court document. Or google it and make it recent.

[FriendshipTown]

Kathy (Chris' mother) died in 2004.

Chris' interview on Inside Edition (where he said the house WAS haunted) happened in 2005.

Chris' legal action with his stepfather was also in 2005, and the issue involving the haunting had to do with trademark infringement. Why would he be on TV saying the house was really haunted at the same time he was in court saying (according to you) that nothing happened?

George then died in early 2006.

Have you read the court documents, yourself?

[bobbystj]

how come we never ever see the children now grown up talk about it

[FriendshipTown]

I think it was a very traumatic experience for them, and they'd rather try to forget rather than constantly discuss it. They'd rather go on with their lives. Would you expect a rape victim to want to discuss their attack over and over again? I think it's the same sort of thing.

[OS253]

Has any news media visit the house lately? Who would spend one night to investigate the hauntings? I would love to hunt for ghosts.

[TheCinemaReporter]

I bet everything bad in that house happens at 3:15

[FriendshipTown]

In interviews, George said he actually would wake up between 3 and 3:30. It wasn't always exactly 3:15 as shown in the movie/book. That was an embellishment, probably made by Jay Anson, who admitted he used artistic license to heighten the drama in the story.

[winstonlegthigh99]

What about the people that lived in the house before the defeo's? Does anyone know if they had any experiances or did they think the house was haunted?

[FriendshipTown]

From what i understand, the previous and subsequent owners claim they have experienced nothing out of the ordinary.

[Mzgriffy]

Did they ever check Dawns' hands for powder burns...I understand she did have GSR on her gown from the close range shot, but I have often wondered about powder burns on the hands. Whatever really happened, this was a tragedy. As far as the account the Lutz family has given, I believe that it is quite possibly true. I do think the media has added to this and oversensationalized it, and that has brought questions to the credibility of the story. The media has a tendency to do that.

[ajawofcopan]

what a lot of people think happened is the older brother and sister made a pact to kill the parents - that's why everyone was in their beds as if a rifle shot didn't wake them up (you would think they had heard a loud bang that woke them). They think that the older sister also killed the children - which was not planned, the brother freaked and killed her too.

[FriendshipTown]

These stories come straight from Ronnie DeFeo. He has given way too many different versions of how the murders went down to ever be believed. At one point he blamed his MOTHER for killing the kids.

I really think Ronnie killed everyone on his own. There is evidence that most of the victims were alive when shot.

[aristottlesdeathwish]

It is weird because both of george and cathy lutz are dead and they didn't even reach 60.

[FriendshipTown]

Kathy had valley fever (I forget the technical name) and suffered from that for years prior to her death. It wasn't sudden.

George was a heavy chain smoker and was undergoing a LOT of stress at the time of his death (involved with a major lawsuit against MGM over the remake, which George didn't want made).

But yes, very sad that both had relatively short lives.

[Midnightryder7]

@FriendshipTown wow i didn't know that they died

[951oct]

repoerter laura is hot!

[RedneckSpiritHunter]

Proof it's fake is Ed & Lorraine Warren

[FriendshipTown]

I understand.

The Warrens were brought in (along with numerous other psychic investigators) in an attempt to "fix" the house so that the Lutzes could move back in and enjoy their new life in Amityville in peace.

That didn't work out. None of the people they brought in said they could definitely fix the house, so they moved to California.

The Warrens have told some inaccurate stories of this haunting, but we shouldn't base the legitimacy of the whole thing on their post-haunting involvement.

[RedneckSpiritHunter]

Back then that's all everybody involved in Paranormal believed in was "Psychics". They didn't investigate like alot of the teams do today with all the technology and stuff we have today.

One thing makes me doubt'em is the picture. Let somebody really check it out and try and see if it's legit. If it is that's the Holy Grail everybody wants and that's a Full Body Apparition. But they have yet to do it and truthfully I think it's a fake.

[FriendshipTown]

I agree that the photo is not a ghost at all, but simply a picture of one of the investigators. There were many photos taken from that automatic camera, and various investigators appear every now and then as they snoop around the house.

The photo wasn't a hoax, but possibly a case of misidentification. The figure appears very small on the original-sized photo. When found, Missy (still young) said it was the little boy she used to play with (meaning the ghost).

[FriendshipTown]

So the whole question of the photo isn't if it was a trick of the camera, but simply a matter of identifying the figure. Its not a ghost.

But I think the Lutzes can be forgiven for thinking this was a ghost. They just went through a haunting, and so I think its normal for them to start thinking stuff is still going on. George even stated at one point they had to make an effort to stop blaming everything that went wrong in their lives on the house.

[chanugaya]

if it was one of the investigators y ddnt the other investigators recognize thr boy...?

[FriendshipTown]

Good question. Dunno.

[bilbo322]

Search Youtube for The Real Amityville Horror video which has a police investigation and some info that it was actually the older sister not ronnie that shot the family and then he shot her in the face due to a drug induced state. No ghosts...just a brother and sister pushed over the edge by an abusive father..its an interesting video. Ronnies comments about the murder not murders and the grandfather telling him to take the rap for all the deaths to avoid further discredit of the defeo name

[FriendshipTown]

Dawn didn't kill anyone. Ronnie is just coming up with a multitude of excuses in an effort to get out of jail. He has also blamed the murders on his mother, a mobster, an unknown assailant, and others.

Ronnie taking the rap does not avoid further discredit of the family name. That's ridiculous.

In his latest (2007) parole hearing, Ronnie changed his story yet again and said he simply can't remember any details of that night. So he's not even using the Dawn theory anymore.

[FriendshipTown]

You can read all of Ronnie's parole transcripts on my forum (in the "DeFeo" section) which is linked to my website (found on my YouTube profile page -- they don't allow us to create links in the comments section).

In those transcripts, you can see Ronnie's story change just over the past 8 years -- and that's not including the 25 years prior to him having parole eligibility.

Ronnie is just a sad, pathetic liar druggie who wasted his family and is too selfish to have any remorse.

[chanugaya]

dawns night clothes had fresh gun powder onit therefor investigators say that she too has used a gun that night....

[FriendshipTown]

Dawn's night gown had "powder particles" on it. Weber hired a private investigator to look into the murders. He said it might show that Dawn fired a weapon.

The medical examiners have pointed out that Dawn was shot at very close range, and its not unusual for victims in such a circumstance to have powder particles on them.

It does not mean Dawn fired a gun.

[silbitnuoc]

Good point. Look at the Robert Blake case.

[chanugaya]

thanx for the information....watch the "real ammittyvill horror the true story",its on utube,someone had seen dawn leaving the house around 3.3O on the night of the murders,he had seen her throw the gun into a lake and return home,and thats exactly the plc ronny had sid that theyl find the gun and they dd find it there,im not quite sure its said that the house was under observation(drug petrol o sometin)he cameout with this after years had pasd,funny he ddnt hear the gun shots though.....

[FriendshipTown]

That story of the DEA agent watching the house comes from Rick Moran. He claims a DEA agent anonymously phoned him up and told him he was staking out the house that night and saw the murders go down (but didn't notify the police).

Trouble with this story: Dawn was killed by that rifle. So how could she have been the one to throw it into the bay?

Its a shame people like Ric Osuna and Rick Moran have to muddy the waters with their fairy tales...

[chanugaya]

realy???i ddnt know that dawn was shot with the same riffel....wow!!!! this sure is a confusing tale....do u blv that the house is haunted and that it had some cnnection to the defeo murders?

[FriendshipTown]

I believe the Lutzes are being truthful. Their stories of the haunting have been twisted by Hollywood. Rumors and misconceptions have distorted things even more. Even the original book by Jay Anson had events out of order, dates switched around and a few fictional items thrown in.

The Lutzes were not savvy in the publishing or motion picture industries. They learned quick that once you sign away your rights to your story, you lose all control...

[FriendshipTown]

George felt DeFeo was possessed (or controlled) by whatever it was that they encountered in the house.

I don't really know. DeFeo was a messed-up loser, thief, druggie on probation. Two weeks before the murders he stole a large sum of money (from the car dealership he worked at) by pretending to be robbed on the way to the bank.

If there was something in the house, perhaps it may have "influenced" him as well. I dunno.

[laneatlileden]

strange that ghost boy's eyes shine much like the quarter moon windows in the house. so lets name him...CASPER.

[natebgraham]

true story or made up, it's still got all of us captivated all these years later. best haunted house ever

[thefirstdaveprime]

How is it that SIX people all layed there, face down, whilst one person walked methodically from room to room and shot them each with a high powered rifle.

Do you know how loud that gun would be inside a house? Wow.

Those death photos alone show that something VERY odd was taking place in that house....

[warlordfw]

i´m sure.... i can´t sleep tonight!

[piqwry71]

Has the ghost boy been identified as one of the DeFeo children?

[MPBlessYou]

Yes.

I don't remember wich one though.

[hmm860]

who on earth would buy a house that had such a horrific murder in it. no matter what the price.

[iwantmoar]

5:05 who you`re gonna call? Ghost Busters!

[Shizalumni]

If you believe in ghosts and demons, knowing what happened before they moved in, why wouldn't they leave at the first sign that something strange was going on? What's money compared to the safety of your family?

[FriendshipTown]

They did NOT believe in ghosts & demons when they bought the house. When strange stuff happened, they thought "there must be a rational explanation." The really bad stuff happened during the last few days. By then it was obvious that this was NOT natural; they moved-out and called in psychics hoping to get the house "fixed" so they could move back in. That didn't work out, so they didn't return.

[ryan489]

It could have had something to do with the fact that Gorge looked and still does very similar to Ron. that may have been a trigger. but in the end I focus more on the facts of the murders then on the story of the haunting.

[blink182LIVES]

whats the name of the theme of the movie?

[Roujin120]

The Entity case was something simuliar aswell. The woman was an alchoholic and everytime she drank she would be attacked by this entity. The Lutz's were also drinking according to someone who was with them when this story was made. Whether it is real or not depends on the believer.

[mrlopez2681]

why arent any of the people who have lived in the house since reporting anything? Bunch of BULLSHIT.

[FriendshipTown]

There are many cases where the hauntings have stopped as mysteriously as they started.

Perhaps there was something different about the Lutzes. Perhaps they are the only ones to have gotten the house blessed. Religious provocation?

Must a haunted house stay haunted forever? Can it go into hibernation? Can it follow a family to another location? Is there a rule book you wrote that ghosts must follow?

[mrlopez2681]

thanx for reply - I have never in all of my life seen a vision or experienced anything that I would even remotely categorize as a "ghost" or "supernatural". But I dont believe it, and I guess thats why.

[FriendshipTown]

I hear what you're saying.

The biggest problem I have with this case comes from my own doubts regarding the existence of ghosts and things. So I try to keep clear of all the paranormal talk, as its mostly just a bunch of people theorizing and making guesses.

I try to stick to examining the evidence supporting a possible hoax, either pro or con. And to date I just keep finding serious flaws with all the various hoax theories. It really seems to me like the Lutzes were being truthful all along.

[lelumpolelum123]

Who you gonna call ? GHOSTBUSTERS !!!

[DirrtyPoser]

I keep an open mind with the Amityville story. Yes the film is a little far fetched. But ask yourself this, new people live there now. They seem extremely happy there, although I still keep an open mind about this.

[FriendshipTown]

I understand. But also ask yourself these questions:

Does a haunted house remain haunted forever?

Can circumstances "trigger" a haunting?

Can hauntings go dormant for a while, or forever?

Can spirits follow a family from one house to another?

Does everyone who enters a haunted house see a ghost?

The Lutzes had the house blessed. Some (including George) think the blessing triggered the haunting for some reason. I wonder if the Cromartys, O'Neills or Wilsons blessed the house as well...

[DirrtyPoser]

Well can a haunted how remain haunted forever, probably not. But is some cases it may well do. A certain frame of mind, may well trigger 'strange' happenings. I would say it depends of your metal state whether or not hauntings follow you, has there ever been a case of this? This is the best thing about 'other forms of life' we just don't know. Thats what makes it all the more interesting. I personally would like to think there is some truth in this story, although the films got silly.

[kraft555]

1) does a haunted house remain haunted forever: Answer) yes.

2)Can circumstances "trigger" a haunting: Answer) Yes, ghosts are normally attracted towards younger children-teenagers. Because they are emotionally fragile.

3)Can hauntings go dorment for awhile: Answer)Yes, think of it like a volcano, does a volcano erupt forever.

4)Can spirits follow a family: answers) Yes, although I have no answer for this one.

[FriendshipTown]

So if the spirits can follow a family to another location, does that first location still remain haunted? If you believe a house remains haunted forever, then doesn't that mean you don't think they can leave that location?

A lot of people seem to want to debunk Amityville (I'm not saying you, Kraft) by saying, "Well that's not how ghosts act." As if there is some sort of rule book that spirits must follow. How can we know this when ghosts haven't even been scientifically proven to exist?

[kraft555]

I agree, alot of people just want to prove the haunting is false. However to explain my theory on ghosts In my experiance ghosts can both follow a person around, and still have the original place possessed. This can be one of the most facinating things about spirits (if they really do exist)

[jays2474]

Have you ever heard of the case the movie The Entity was about?Also the Lutz's BOTH passed lie detector test's.I might dought it if one of them failed the test.This proves to me that weather it was natural or supernatural,something scared the hell out of them.

[bobotheclown90]

i live in queensand every halloween my friends and i would go to long island by amityville and it is scary we once saw a ghost peeking out the window staring at us then we always go home wanting to sleep with our moms.

[XxChickyxX]

i feel so sorry for them...i dont know why but i really believe there was something supernatural

[IRAForLife]

If you know anything about the house or grew up on the island like I did, you would know that the owners after all this changed the windows because so many people were comming to the house.

[sarahm81]

i just drove by that house today. i had to go to a conference in town over and I wanted to check the house out afterwards. its not that creepy during the day, but I'm sure at night i'd run for the hills.

[totallybarefoot]

Has the house been tested for toxic mold? I dont' see black demon hands, but when I'm around mold my head spins round and round and I levitate. Seriously, mold is fungus like mushrooms and we all know the properties some mushrooms have (hallucinogenic).

[softplay2]

ok so i totally thing 'something; happened im ma time ive seen 3 spirtis, and ive hd the same thing happen a weight on u so u canny move u can hear but canny call out that has happened to me

[Yawaya12]

Yeah, it's called sleep paralysis.

[drummerkid71]

George and Kathy Lutze are now deceased ... I saw it on a recent special.

[ColtonORRules]

why dont they just have like ghost hunters or sum1 else credible enough do an investigation?

[aordwaya]

The people who own the house now wont let anyone in.

[totallybarefoot]

The neighbors would object.  All kinds of weirdos would be campling on the lawn day and night, and Halloween and anniversaries would be like Christmas mall parking in your yard.

[totallybarefoot]

Does he stand on the front porch and rasp "GET OUT!" ?

[SourPuss416]

I'm going to have nightmares.

[shmouts]

TOTAL bullshit.

Ronald DeFeo now admits there were no dark forces or voices telling him to kill his family. He was simply a fuck up reprobate druggy who killed his family while on a alcohol and heroin binge

[FriendshipTown]

The Lutzes' claims are not based on Ronald DeFeo's claims.

Just because DeFeo says he was wrong about hearing voices does not mean the Lutzes did not experience a haunting the following year.

[xEternalRosex]

Ronald DeFeo changed his story several times.

[FriendshipTown]

Yes, I personally believe Ronald DeFeo is a habitual liar. He's changed his explanation (of how his family was murdered) numerous times over the years. He's a sad, sick, pathetic man.

Yet that has no bearing whatsoever on the Lutzes, or the Lutzes' claims of supernatural events.

[aordwaya]

Exactly - why would we take the word of a sick man that slaughtered his whole family

[shmouts]

"What would've happened if you stayed in the house?"

"Uh, I would've been stuck paying a mortgage in a house I couldn't afford....thank the maker I came up with a bullshit story"

[FriendshipTown]

The Lutzes sold their TWO previous houses before buying the one on Ocean Avenue. They came out ahead financially on the deal. They continued paying the Amityville mortgage until June or July of 1976 (5 or 6 months after fleeing).

[shmouts]

while they rented a places in la jolla and del mar...............but i forgot, they were destitute

[FriendshipTown]

ha ha - you got our roles mixed up there. You're the one trying to prove they were destitute while I'm the one trying to show they were NOT destitute.

Thanks for your help!

[shmouts]

no, dont change you're story. in the book they plead poverty and you support it. they moved into this house with the express purpose of coming up with this bullshit story.

[FriendshipTown]

For the millionth time - the book was not written by the Lutzes. So it is not a case of "them pleading poverty."

You are probably confusing my prior comments (here or elsewhere) about the Lutzes getting shafted when it came to their share of the profits from the book/movie. I still stand by that. But that doesn't mean they were poor or having financial problems. That just means they made relatively little from those two deals.

[LiviaLurvsTokioHotel]

Question ppl...In The Remake...What makes Lutz Want To Harm His Family? Why Did He Want To Kill His Eldest Son (And Why With An Axe)? Very Strage...

[FriendshipTown]

the answer: a bad bad movie script.

If you're wondering, that did not happen in real life.

[LiviaLurvsTokioHotel]

I Knoww, I Cud Tell,,Its Totally Unbelievable Dat Yhoo Wud Becum ''Possesed'' From Staying In A House Lol.x.

[MCMUFFIN27]

You Can Tell He would like 2 forget about it and move on and Doesnt Like Talking About It At All, But With So Much Media Pressure The poor guy has to let it all out.

[manel444]

the most great propaganda movie of all time,thats all,a movie.there is no spirits,theres no possesion,theres no demon or spirits.the real deal was a murder,thats all but dont beliv me .whatch it

the most great propaganda movie of all time,thats all,a movie.there is no spirits,theres no possesion,theres no demon or spirits.the real deal was a murder,thats all

[youngdj23]

i totally agree with you. I can't (or maybe I can) believe people bought this story. all you have to do is a little bit of research to learn that this was all a hoax to make money!

[FriendshipTown]

Yes - a little research tells you it was all a hoax. But dig a little deeper, and the hoax theories start to fall apart.

Try doing a lot of research rather than a little, and you find yourself wondering if ghosts really do exist. You start to wonder how Mrs and Mrs Lutz both passed independent polygraph tests. You start to wonder why no one has confessed to a hoax in all this time - not one of the 5 family members, nor the priest, nor any of the Lutzes' friends or relatives...

[youngdj23]

Defea said that he lied about the voices. THe Defeo lawyer said he was approached about a book by the Lutzes. There is no record of an Indian Cementary there. The door and the window was not blown out. That was a lie. The present owners don't saw anything about ghost. How much research do you want? I DO believe in ghost, but not this story.

[FriendshipTown]

DeFeo's experiences (or lies) has nothing to do with the Lutzes' experiences.

The DeFeo laywer said no such thing - HE approached the Lutzes about a book deal, not the other way 'round.

The Indian cemetary has no bearing on anything. That is an attempt to explain why the haunting happened. Its not like the Lutzes ever claimed a spirit came to them and told them about an ancient Indian burial ground.

The window didn't blow out in real life - that was the movie.

[shmouts]

the "defeo experience" is called drugs and alcohol

[FriendshipTown]

It hasn't been proven that the front door never "blew out" and got repaired. Barbara Cromarty tapping on the frame with the handle of a screwdriver proves nothing.

The fact that the present owners haven't experienced anything does not disprove the initial haunting. There have been other cases of places being haunted for a time only for the events to stop as suddenly as they started.

[theresajames1982]

Where are the lutz children? I want to hear their version of events. Why is it always George that gives the interviews? It would just seem that if they really did have a story to tell, they would tell it.

[FriendshipTown]

Its mostly George you see because he's the most willing to speak out. Kathy didn't like talking about it much, from what i understand. George was older, so he saw/remembered more than the kids. The "kids" are now all grown and lead their separate lives. Chris has talked publicly about the haunting being real (look on youtube) while Dan and Missy don't like to discuss the matter.

[DkEugen]

actually he was younger, Kathy was 30 he was 28-9

[DkEugen]

George was 28 kathy was 30, he was younger

[FriendshipTown]

I'm referring to his age versus the kids, not his wife. My statement was "George was older, so he remembered more than the kids."

[DkEugen]

ahhh! got it!

[DkEugen]

Actually one of them has, although he was young then.

[FriendshipTown]

Are you talking about one of the kids talking publicly about the case when they were young? Where/when was this?

[DkEugen]

Chris (lutz) has talked about it in the recent past, there's a vidio about it somwhere on youtube

[CptJackSparrow82]

DkEugen i have that video in my favorites group of the youngest Lutz child.

[FriendshipTown]

Okay, so this was the recent clips of Chris on Inside Edition - definitely NOT "when they were young"...

[DkEugen]

Yes

[lilloka911]

me 2

[obsidiantech]

frauds, well explosed frauds

[FriendshipTown]

I've yet to see anything that shows the Lutzes were frauds.

[DkEugen]

actually even if the lutzes were frauds they were VERY poorly exposed.

[nymarine21]

The house is weird. The front side of the house is facing the wrong direction and its not as big as the movie depicts it

[atomicplayboy4u]

I wanna know who built the red room in the basement ?

[lilloka911]

me 2

[xxlostsinxx]

creepy~~~~~~~~~~~~~

[Coolcat202]

haha its called "high hopes" high hopes to stay in the house!

[alexgodfather94]

OMG that is so creeeeeepy

[StanMyMan66]

George and Kathy Lutz and the now famous Priest that blessed the house are now dead....

Funny how time flies

[DkEugen]

George was only 52

[StanMyMan66]

still young

[DkEugen]

when he died that is,

[DkEugen]

they're all dead, exept for the kids.