I am Turkish and i have to say Erdogan is a HYPOCRITE!!! He said that France's New law is "a violation of freedom of thought". Well i have one question to say to Erdogan. In 2005 Orhan pamuk, a Turkish citizen got arrested just because he mentioned the The Armenian genocide happened in one of his books. hmmmm Isn't That a "violation of freedom of thought" to?
That's y I did say that they were forced, my mistake there is no such thing " Muslim " Armenians. I am sure that they rn't happy with that at all. There is no such ridiculous thing as a muslim Armenian it is equal to say Christian turk. I am sorry.
What most Armenians within the Armenian community fail to mention, however, is that the very founding fathers of Israel - Hertzel and Jabotinsky - openly and directly encouraged the Turkish authorities to carry out their plans against the Armenians. They did so to win land favors within Ottoman administerd Palestine. This is all very well documented.
Armenians joined the Russians and the Russians conquered territories fought against the Turks lived together for thousands of years. but they lost the war. Impurities in this treacherous and ungrateful... If another nation would have killed them all ! to drive them to take our land was our fault. deaths have been in exile, he is now the descendants of the survivors of genocide around the world argue that the lie. I wish I had died all of you ungrateful bastard got dirt path to hell !!!
The word genocide After World War II, has entered the world literature. genocide; trains people to fill in batches, to send to concentration camps and burn... we didnt!!! if it had been a massacre in the ottoman empire collapsed 100 years ago and established the new turkey. france What did you wait for 100 years.
Turks have lived together for thousands of years and also benefited from the same rights in the empire, and ungrateful bitch, the Armenians as a nation. On the one hand, and millions all over the empire's military and people are dying while fighting the world's super powers lost 90% of the territory. The north face of the Ottoman Empire fought against the Russians. behind the front has done riots, telegraph lines, railways, bombed trains carrying wounded soldiers.
Armenians are good people. many of them live in Iran and they live very peaceful and kindly. i hope world respect to their history and accept milion of them died in world war 1
There is no such thing as a muslim armenian. They changed their religion because living in turkey they hadeto just so they would not be a target. That does not mean they are muslim.
@Khachakirner1992Stop knorring like a pig.. Ben nediyorum,,sen ne diyorsun???? ayni ermeni domuzu gibi konusuyorsun... Please leave Turkey and go to your little village in armenia..
@yapalli83 LISTEN ASS HOLE FUCK YOUR TURKEY AND ALL TURKS FUCK YOUR GOD AND ATATURK AND YOUR FUCKING COUNTRY !! ANAYIN AMINDAN GIRERSEM ATANIN MEZARINDEN CIKARIM !! FUCK EVERYONE WHO IS IN TURKEY !!
@Khachakirner1992.. We filt your mothers with Turkish/Ottoman sperm :).. anno 2012:look at you now, you and the other armenian pigs speaks Turkish.... Isnt that funny:).. Annani ve bacilarini nasil CATIR CATIR siktik amma :)...Hellal olsun Enver , Talat pasa...
@yapalli83 its not funny at all when your ancestors lived a savage life in central Asia we Armenians speak few languages all the time from very ancient time ! now i speak Turkish plus few other languages and i know your Koran better then your imam i can spay ,i can enter your fucking country fuck your sister and become your brother in law that's the differences between Turks and Armenians , you guys are stupid and sick all the time just like you ,is your mom and dad cousins how about your wife
@jeahdude37 and what should i call a nation who committed genocide by killing a nation ? Turkey guilty of many genocide Armenians Greeks Assyrians !!
all Turks savages barbarians cock suckers fuck you all !
@Khachakirner1992 emperor dikran built great armenian empire right?how did he built empire?you think he threw flowers and chocolates to conquer lands???he also shed blood to conquer.greeks also shed blood to gain more lands.every strong nations shed blood to gain more lands.and you say turks are barbarians.you are brain-washed by propagands sadly.
if turks are barbarians because they killed people so all nations are barbarians.what a biased mind you have..
Ottoman Turks killed Armenians not only because they weren't on their side but cuz they were Armenians and Christians and they were so deep with their believe. Y did they didn't touch those that had changed their religion I know that these days there r a lot of Muslim Armenians living I turkey, actually they were forced to change
@Mooneyereone ''...coz they werent not turks' side'' they never been in our side.armenian population were exempted of being soldier and they paid extra taxes to not going army training.so they were already not in our side in wars.
armenians were always christians but turks didnt kill them and let them live freely in ottoman empire.they even have more priveleges than any other foreign nation.we were ok with their religion all the time otherwise we would extermiante them all am i right?
U r right they were. Ottomans took everything their lives, wealth and motherland. There is no logic what u've said if everything was so perfect why Armenians lost everything
@Mooneyereone armenians had more privileges then any other foreign nations but they also wanted an independant country of their own.after the french revolution nationalism spreaded in the world.armenians were one of them.they rebelled against ottomans during and before ww1.do u think its logical to waste money,time and man-power to setup a deportation while ottomans needed both money,time and man-power??we had reasons to deport them.
@Mooneyereone only armenians in east have been deported.rich armenians which most of them living in west didnt get deported as well.in east anatolia many armenians joined to armenian gangs groups.some of them forced to join some of them volunteerly.
nontheless deportation was a need to prevent empire to collapse.
u armenians also should remember what have u done to ottoman turks.u should also remember what was the reason of deportation.you were not innocent at all,you deserved to be deported
So simple young turks: "panislamism and pantirkism". Turkey without any christian or any ethnicity, they were looking for help because they couldn't just live in the environment with do high taxes, discrimination and killings that were going on that days
@Mooneyereone armenians were the richest people in ottomans.they paid less taxes then any other foreign nation in the empire.there were also armenian governers and you say they were living under bad conditions?spread your lies somewhere else please.
There was no reason for the Ottoman Empire to exterminate the Armenians. Many Armenians were in the Ottoman army, but thousands of them deserted the army to join the ARF (Armenian Revolutionary Federation), they took the Ottoman guns with them. Why would the Ottoman army, fighting World War I and LOSING on 3 different war fronts, spend time, money, and effort to kill Armenians when it needs more recruits to kill the Allies?
Most historians don't accept the genocide, just because you make this claim doesn't make it true. The only true historians I know that accept the Armenian Genocide, are Armenian themselves. If there are a lot of Armenian historians, that doesn't prove anything, because there are tons of Turkish historians who would disagree. It's safe to assume, that both Turkish and Armenian historians are biased. However, if we look at non-Turkish and non-Armenian historians, most agree there was NO genocide.
As an American, I find this bill to be ridiculous. Even though denying the Armenian Genocide is stupid, I think there being a law that forbids you to do so is even more stupid. I'm of Ashkenazi Jewish decent, but I sure as hell don't want a law that forbids Holocaust denial. Just let the paranoid racist idiots be paranoid racist idiots. How will this even be enforced?
It is very revealing that non of those people who accept the Turkish state sponsored narative of genocide denial, have anything good to say about the world or humanity. There is an unholy alliance that exist between the Turkish state, their so called "respectable historians" and all manner of racist, white supremacist, social darwinist forces who identify with the Armenian genocide as the triumph of the strong over the weak in order to furnish their perverted world views. How predictable...
@notsobraveheartonur1980 "..Anyway ıf we want genocide,you would not be commenting here.."
Threats aside, this is an Interesting logic. (Genocide = No Survivors) (Survivors = No Genocide) And I'm not even an Armenian LOL. So who is this "we" then? The spent forces of the old Ottoman empire? The foot soldiers of the AKP led fascist regime of Turkey lining up to sacrifice their lives in the service of their US masters for their Greater Middleastern Project? AWAY WITH ALL GOSTS!
Muslims, as you so ignorantly chose to describe them, did not die for their own freedom. They died for the interests of the Ottoman/ JonTurk elite and their German Imperial masters. Armenian nation was under no obligation to remain loyal to the Ottoman empire. Their only obligation as an opressed nation was to demand and fight for their independence. You try to deny the genocide then you try to justify it. You deny it because it offends your fucked up sense of who you are. Why am I bothering..
Fascism is not good for people. It makes them sick and takes away their humanity. Either you haven't read what I have been writing or you haven't understood any of it. What has your 2 million muslim deaths during WW1 got anything to do with the question as to whether or not a genocide had been committed against the Armenians? Are you saying that the Armenians deserved it? Why focus on peoples' religion?
WHAT DO YOU GAIN OF BEING ACCEPTED THAT TURKISH FUCKED YOU?
NO NEED TO PROOF THAT YOU ARE BITCHES, WHOLE THE WORLD KNOWS IT!
QUESTION TO FRENCH:
WHAT IS YOUR PROFIT TO LIMIT THE HUMAN RIGHTS, FREE THINKING RIGHTS OF FRENCH PEOPLE ACCEPTING SUCH A FUNNY AND MEANINGLESS LAW?
IT SHOWS AGAIN THAT, IN EUROPE THE MOST STUPID COUNTRY IS FRANCE, YOU HAVE TO LEARN MORE FROM ENGLAND, GERMANY, ITALY, SPAIN AND OTHERS, FRANCE IS FAMOUS WITH IT'S BLOW JOB MAKERS..
GENOCİDE WİLL DECAY ABOUT 5 OR 10 YEAR, everybody MOST HİSTORİANS KNOW THAT THOSE EVENTS CANT BE ACCEPTED AS GENOCİDE and I will respect FRANCE DECİSİON, IF FRANCE WİLL RESPECT KHOJALY GENOCİDE.Historians know that Karabagh always belongs to Azerbaijan. In soviets too, and without reason occupy those lands, killed unhumanly woman, children ARMENİANS ARE WİLD NATİON, WAKE UP WORLD STOP SUPPORT ANİMALS(armenians)
SEE THE REAL GENOCIDE MADE BY armenians AT KHOJALY.ORG !
THIS IS 100% A POLITICAL ISSUE, IS IT WAS A REAL GENOCIDE BY TURKISH, NOW YOU COULDN'T FIND ANY armenian asshole, BECAUSE TURKISH WOULD KILL THEM ALL!
Why is Turkey saying that what France did is wrong because it violates the "freedom of speech right" but Turkey has made it a crime to aknowledge the Armenian Genocide under article 301, So isn't that also violation of "freedom of speech"? Turkey has comitted a genocide and that's not questionable. From the time when the Genocide was taking place, diplomats and politicians were saying that a systematic murder of the Armenians is taking place, so Turkey should stop lying and face its history.
@LeopardGlobe first of all Turkey hasnt comitted a genocide, propogandist armenians fucked your brain too, second most historians didnt accept those events as genocide, If France was fair then they must accept Khojaly Massacre, even asshole Serj Sarkisyan accepted Khojaly events as genocide..And If your braint cant work bilateral, then at least do not post here unlogical things!
Every time when any country or individuals trying to do something for the recognition of the Armenian genocide your government in charge they attack those by different ways and by different methods or just terrorizing by saying that they gonna cut all relationships between those r u familiar with those types of things
Armenian land always was in crosswords of European, African and Asian civilizations and keep this region in peace such hard job cause there always were wars and did u read history books at all just writing down for reason u know let's try this too.
Don't be funny u trying to pass things by pointing out not logical reasons why cause we r living in the area so- called business world a lot of countries have good business deals with turkey and do not want to lose those how many times turkish government attacked USA using Iraq war and ur pointing Armenian lobby
@iHye1 YESTERDAY I FUCKED YOUR MOTHER, NO NEED PROVE, HİSTORY, REASON... MY BROTHERS, EVEN ONE OF YOUR MOM'S TİTS SUPPORT ME TOO...so who will deny I fucked your mother, he will pay me 2500$..this is simple explanation of so called armenian genocide situation..
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@MrArmenian10 many of those photos are blong to other massacres some of them are real.documentaries based on your so-called diaspora's propagand can not be taken as evidence.
real proofs must be the documents,signed orders by generals in those years,telegrams,DNA tests etc..we turks also have photos that armenian murdered turks we also have witnesses that armenians killed turks and there are also russian documents that proves armenians murdering turks.
@MrArmenian10 and if this genocide was proven like jewish holocaust,there would be no one denying it.not only turks deny the so-called armenian genocide but also many professors,scholars and historian all aorund the world strongly denies it with proofs.
@jeahdude37 Many professors scholars and historian all around the world deny the jewish holocaust calling it lie or a conspirancy. They also think that, as you are saying, that "they are strongly denying it with proofs".
Btw, we are not saying that nowadays Turkey has commited any genocide. What we are saying is that Ottoman Empire has done so. Actually, we don't care that much about you as you seem to think.
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FRANCE IS TO FACED. FRENCH TROOPS KILLED 45.000 IN ALGERIA AND 800.000 KILLED IN RUWANDA. NOW THEY TALKING ABOUT ARMENIAN GENECIDE. WHAT A MOTHER FUCKER YOU ARE MR SARKOZY THE SHIT.
Who call u here little looser, low life turkik azerik go wash ur mouth before saying something about Armenians u came here 2 proof ur low IQ level and ur bathroom talk with those types of nonsense sentences u can't amazed smart and educated people u think it's cool learned few bath words and cool just showing ur simple brain
ONE MORE THING WHY DO YOU THINK FRANCE ACCEPT THE LAW ABAOUT FAKE ARMENIAN GENOCIDE I CAN TELL YOU THAT TO BECOUSE SON OF A BITCH SARKOZY WILL WON THE FUCKING STUPID FRENCH ELECTIONS AND HE NEED PIG ARMENIAN VOTE . WHY DID HE EARLIER THIS LAW ENACTED ??? HE ONLY THINK TO GET THE ARMENIAN VOTE THATS ALL STUPID ASSHOLE AND REMEMBER FRANCE MASCARE IN ALGERIA AND RWANDA KILLD AND RAPED THERE
YOU FUCKING STUPID ASSHOLE TELL ME WHO MASCARE IN AZARBAJAN WHO KILLED INNOCENT AZERIS CIVILIAN WOMEN AND CHILDREN PERSECUTED WAY I CAN TELL YOU MOTHER FUCKER SOON OF A BITCH IT WAS TERRORIST ARMENIAN PIGS . WITH YOUR LIES ABOUT FAKE ARMENIAN GENOCIDE DO YOU THINK YOU CAN SUPPOSED THE WORLD DO YOU THINK WE HAVE FORGET OR FORGIVE YOUR CRIMES WAS THAT ALSO FOR DEFENSE YOUR SHIT ARMENIAN COUNTRY
Funny! As I said before, all history books of the countries who had been occupied by the turks, share the same thing: "Turks did countless massacres of Christians!"... Bulgarians, Greeks, Serbians, Romanians, Armenians will confirm that. The whole world is recognizing the Armenian genocide, in France it's denial is even a criminal offense. To all this turks say: "you are wrong, we are right". Indeed, the world is wrong, only they are right! =))) Old ottoman habits die hard!
@tsalyuge turks did countless massacres on christians?you are damn right about this but why dont you mention what christians do agains turks,muslims or any nation around the world?aaah ok because you christians are angles from heaven you are just too good for murdering
massacring is something else,genocide is something else.do not twist the words stop misusing and exaggerating the term ''genocide''
@jeahdude37 First of all, I don't know of any massacres committed by Bulgarians, and for the Christian nations who had done such atrocities we are not taking any responsibility. And yes, I know very well the difference between a massacre and a genocide, and that's why I said "countless massacres" because that leads to a genocide! Capiche? Also, turks didnt massacre Christians only, but Muslims as well - Kurds can say more about it!
Only killers can respect bloody history of murders and please no one isn't u so respect 20 countries, organizations, 45 states out of 50, individuals, all those is no one for u
The generation had changed young turks wanted to have turkey without any Christian there, "panislamism and pantirkism" was there desire so do not even try to put all this dirt on us they didn't needed us and when people do not need something they just throw away but killed
World is gonna believe unproven genocide!! Only politicians talk about this. AND SARKOZY İS GETTİNG HİS PUBLİC LOVE AGAİN!! Go find KHOJALY MASSACRE made by armenians just 20 year ago with certain proofs, including hundreds photos, tens videolents!!! Stop abuse turks, go abuse germans..Turks didnt made genocide, GENOCİDE İS JUST POLİTİCAL ATTACK TO TURKEY, that's why Turks will boycott France!!!
The way t u talk all about this is giving people chance to think that ur export in those lol and have huge experience and knowledge of those types of think lol low level of thinking and low IQ very Low
ARMENIAN ARE MURDER MURDER MURDER MURDER AND ARE GUILTY FOR MASCARE IN KARABAH AZARBAIJAN ARMENIAN TERRORITS KILLD INNOCENT WOMEN AND CHILDREN IN KARABAH AT BEGINING OF 1990 AND STILL KARABH IS ON THE OCUPATION OF ARMENIAN TERRORITS
@MegaSahmaran Armenian Genocides Hamidian massacres 1894-1896 Armenian–Tatar massacres 1905-1907 Adana massacre April 1909 Armenian Genocide April 24,1915-1923 September Days September 1918 Shusha pogrom March 1920 Sumgait pogrom February 1988 Kirovabad pogrom November 1988 Baku pogrom January 1990 Dushanbe pogrom February, 1990 Maraga Massacre April 1992
@MegaSahmaran Azerbaijan which ahs lots of oil and money wich alqaide suported azerbaijan and russia first gave azerbaijan lots of money at the beginingen
you armenian are piece of shit armenian are murder
do you want evidence ? than look at all the turkish diplomats who killed by asala terror orginasation just watch how you shit armenian mascare women and children in karabah azarbaijan ok in the meantime you can fuck you self soon of the bitch
Hitler said to his generals on the eve of sending his Death's Heads units into Poland, "Go, kill without mercy . . . who today remembers the annihilation of the Armenians."
Armenians all over the world commemorate this great tragedy on April 24, because it was on that day in 1915 when 300 Armenian leaders, writers, thinkers and professionals in Constantinople (present day Istanbul) were rounded up, deported and killed. Also on that day in Constantinople, 5,000 of the poorest Armenians were butchered in the streets and in their homes.
The Armenian Genocide was carried out by the "Young Turk" government of the Ottoman Empire in 1915-1916 (with subsidiaries to 1922-23). One and a half million Armenians were killed, out of a total of two and a half million Armenians in the Ottoman Empire.
Most Armenians in America are children or grandchildren of the survivors, although there are still many survivors amongst us.
Armenians all over the world commemorate this great tragedy on April 24,
In the last hundred years I have not been aware of any legal proceeding in Turkey involving any of the descendants of the victims of the Armenian genocide making any finantial claims in respect of assets or property that had been lost by their forefathers during the genocide. With high ranking international lawyers at their disposal, the Armenians could have easily flooded the Turkish courts had they wanted to do so. Why has this not happened? (cont..).
...What we are experiencing here is not a civilised state of affairs on a global scale by any strech of imagination. Yet, in terms of this debate, what matters for the descendants of the victims of the Armenian genocide as well as for the humanity as a whole, is for the Turkish people to acknowledge the Armenian genocide and the pain that it has caused to countless men, women and children. I believe this would mean a lot.
Neither the vote by the French Imperialists nor the current opposition to it has any credibility. Humanity has not yet reached a stage in its historical development whereby it can truly rupture from the ghosts of its past. Formal laws may act as a deterrent only in a limited sense. They do not, in themselves, transform peoples understanding. For that to happen we'll need to dare to change the world!
Why is France the only country to outlaw the autrocities committed by the Ottoman Empire to so many!? Other countries should follow suit! Kudos to France, though! Great news!
Ottoman Empire (Turkey) MUST admit to its horrendous crimes not only against Armenia, but against so many other nations and countries! France is doing the right thing! No more denial! No more lies! No more silence!
@sudbonosnodane FRANCE IS TO FACED. FRENCH TROOPS KILLED 45.000 IN ALGERIA AND 800.000 KILLED IN RUWANDA. NOW THEY TALKING ABOUT ARMENIAN GENECIDE. WHAT A MOTHER FUCKER YOU ARE MR SARKOZY THE SHIT.
@jepremjan111 STUPID MOTHER FUCKER IDIOT SOON OF A BITCH FOR WHAT ARE YOU HAPPY ? IS IT BECOUSE YOU PIGG TERRORITS ARMENIAN KILLD MANY TURKISH DIPLOMATS BY ASALA TERROR ORGINASATION OR IS IT BECOUSE FRENCE MASCARE INNOCENT CIVILIAN IN ALGERIA YOU COCK SUCKER WE ALSO NOT FORGET HOW YOU PIGG ARMENIAN TERRORITS MASCARE IN KARABAH AZARBAJAN WOMEN AND CHILDREN YOU STUPID ASSHOLE ARMENIAN CAN LIE WITH YOU FAKE GENOCIDE PROPOGANDA FOR THE FUCKING FRENCH ANIMALS BUD WE KNOW WHAT IS THRU
@jepremjan111 AND DO YOU THINK FRENCH DID ACCEPT THIS LAW BECOUSE THEY LIKE PIGG AND TERRORITS ARMENIAN NO NO NO I CAN TELL YOU STUPID ASSHOLE ITS FOR THE VOTE AND EVERYBODY KNOW THAT IN THIS WORLD BUD ANYWAY COCK SUCKER SARKOZY WILL ANYWAY LOSE THE FRENCH ELECTIONS
@MegaSahmaran hahahah you mad, little turkihs dickhead, umad as a motherfocker hahah, every word you said you know is not true, accept the truth turk accept it, bite down on it !
@jepremjan111 FRANCE IS TO FACED. FRENCH TROOPS KILLED 45.000 IN ALGERIA AND 800.000 KILLED IN RUWANDA. NOW THEY TALKING ABOUT ARMENIAN GENECIDE. WHAT A MOTHER FUCKER YOU ARE MR SARKOZY THE SHIT.
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Daud Kheyriyan, ARMENİAN JOURNALİST said in his book "For the Sake of Cross" (page 62-63): One ARMENİAN GROUP, brought 100 azeri dead to 1 kilometer from Khojaly, some of them were live just in a big car one azeri girl about 10 year old was breathing forcibly, then armenian soldier TİGRASYAN came catched her threw to other azeri deads then burned them! So It is Khojaly genocide, WAKE UP WORLD, If france was fair had to agree Khojaly Genocide!!!
Who is brave for u? There r so many countries out there that didn't recognize the Armenian genocide and no single one haven't said yet that we hate them so please be honest and talk only from name of u and your country all isn't u
ERDOGAN: ..''to be a friend of turks is a honor, and even to be an enemy of turks is honor aswell, but we will not even give them this honor..''... armenians lived more than 600 years in ottoman empire, no body killed them, but somehow someone killed them all (!), WHY? why a lion kills ants, think at least 5 times before lying you superbrains..
My comments were not directed specifically at you but to @utkusarioglu and others who fail to question the official line in Turkey. I am challenging those who deny the armenian genocide. We will not let the imperialists dictate the terms of this debate....
All your national, social, spiritual values that had been built around this edifice constructed around lies, distortions and fabrications is rotting away like a stinking cadaver. What will you do? INVESTIGATE? Try and reclaimyour humanity? This is not about the French imperialists and their geo-political games.Imperialist have no right to speak on thisissue. This is about You.
NOT AT ALL WE'V HEARD A LOT OF THOSE BUT IT DOESN'T CHANGE SOMETHING JUST BECAUSE OF THAT U WANT FROM US TO SAY THAT IT DIDN'T HAPPEND, THAT'S UR SUGGESTION
Now...I hope that satistisfies your curiosity. (c) especially was written with the Armenian genocide in mind. The one thing that may possibly save your honour is the fact that there were few brave individuals both Turkish and Kurdish, who risked their lives and the lives of their family members by sheltering their Armenian neighbours, but their stories are being missed in all this...
@tolgarupture idiot you don't know conditions. 2 million muslim died from starvation and diseases during ww1.We didn't starve armenians deliberately.Anyway ıf we want genocide,you would not be commenting here so first learn "real" facts not your facts then we you can comment.
The international legal definition of the crime of genocide is found in Articles II and III of the 1948 Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of Genocide:
"Article II: In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:
No only u know lol turks-human rights human rights- turks we did kill 1.5 mln Turks, took ur homeland, killed ur grandmoms and ur granddads , ur siblings etc, don't be funny
Armowings they must must must there is no other way if they want close their eyes and walk away that is their problem we'll never forget and forgive 1.5 mln and Hrant's death
We all r human beings and r not perfect nobody is perfect but there r very brave ones that gonna say sorry I accept that I've done a terrible things I am sorry simple word sorry
@Mooneyereone Turks need to start realizing that they have had dark chapters in their history...just like you said. I don't see what is so hard about that. I also have a Turkish friend who knows what happened and knows the truth.
Does anyone in the page know the meaning of the term genocide? If we call every single nation responsible with genocide and every conflict call as genocide we will just diminish what Jewish people had to face during second world war.
@ArmoWings There historians see its as genocide and there are historians see it as massacres, either way parliements are not the right places to decide history. We all know France did it for the elections.
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I am Turkish and i have to say Erdogan is a HYPOCRITE!!! He said that France's New law is "a violation of freedom of thought". Well i have one question to say to Erdogan. In 2005 Orhan pamuk, a Turkish citizen got arrested just because he mentioned the The Armenian genocide happened in one of his books. hmmmm Isn't That a "violation of freedom of thought" to?
co0lkid98 1 day ago 2
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!!! DONT CALL EVERY LOST WAR A GENOCIDE Fucking GAYARMENIANS !!!
Mertt03 1 day ago
That's y I did say that they were forced, my mistake there is no such thing " Muslim " Armenians. I am sure that they rn't happy with that at all. There is no such ridiculous thing as a muslim Armenian it is equal to say Christian turk. I am sorry.
Mooneyereone 1 week ago
What most Armenians within the Armenian community fail to mention, however, is that the very founding fathers of Israel - Hertzel and Jabotinsky - openly and directly encouraged the Turkish authorities to carry out their plans against the Armenians. They did so to win land favors within Ottoman administerd Palestine. This is all very well documented.
Khachakirner1992 1 week ago
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Armenians joined the Russians and the Russians conquered territories fought against the Turks lived together for thousands of years. but they lost the war. Impurities in this treacherous and ungrateful... If another nation would have killed them all ! to drive them to take our land was our fault. deaths have been in exile, he is now the descendants of the survivors of genocide around the world argue that the lie. I wish I had died all of you ungrateful bastard got dirt path to hell !!!
kerem2008 1 week ago
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The word genocide After World War II, has entered the world literature. genocide; trains people to fill in batches, to send to concentration camps and burn... we didnt!!! if it had been a massacre in the ottoman empire collapsed 100 years ago and established the new turkey. france What did you wait for 100 years.
kerem2008 1 week ago
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historical fact
Turks have lived together for thousands of years and also benefited from the same rights in the empire, and ungrateful bitch, the Armenians as a nation. On the one hand, and millions all over the empire's military and people are dying while fighting the world's super powers lost 90% of the territory. The north face of the Ottoman Empire fought against the Russians. behind the front has done riots, telegraph lines, railways, bombed trains carrying wounded soldiers.
kerem2008 1 week ago
Armenians are good people. many of them live in Iran and they live very peaceful and kindly. i hope world respect to their history and accept milion of them died in world war 1
MrPersianlion 1 week ago
There is no such thing as a muslim armenian. They changed their religion because living in turkey they hadeto just so they would not be a target. That does not mean they are muslim.
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yapalli83 1 week ago 4
@yapalli83 FUCK YOUR ATATURK ATADOG ATABOK
Khachakirner1992 1 week ago
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yapalli83 1 week ago
@yapalli83 why dont you as savage Turk confess more ....go ahead say more as prove
TURKS A NATION OF .......CRIMINALS + SAVEGE + BARBARIAN + GENOCAIDEL + OCUPAIERS + DENIERS = TURKS !!
Khachakirner1992 1 week ago
@Khachakirner1992 GO FUCK OF TO ARMENIAand leave Turkey and dont talk Turkish you son of a whore !! Ananizi nasil siktik ama !!
yapalli83 1 week ago
@yapalli83 just wait the end and see how we have to retaliate first strike was in Karabagh
TURKEY GUILTY OF MANY GENOCIDE ARMENIANS GREEKS ASSYRIANS !
EAST TURKEY IS HISTORICAL ARMENIA OCCUPIED BY BARBARIAN TURKS !!!
Khachakirner1992 6 days ago
@Khachakirner1992Stop knorring like a pig.. Ben nediyorum,,sen ne diyorsun???? ayni ermeni domuzu gibi konusuyorsun... Please leave Turkey and go to your little village in armenia..
yapalli83 6 days ago
@yapalli83 LISTEN ASS HOLE FUCK YOUR TURKEY AND ALL TURKS FUCK YOUR GOD AND ATATURK AND YOUR FUCKING COUNTRY !! ANAYIN AMINDAN GIRERSEM ATANIN MEZARINDEN CIKARIM !! FUCK EVERYONE WHO IS IN TURKEY !!
Khachakirner1992 6 days ago
@Khachakirner1992.. We filt your mothers with Turkish/Ottoman sperm :).. anno 2012:look at you now, you and the other armenian pigs speaks Turkish.... Isnt that funny:).. Annani ve bacilarini nasil CATIR CATIR siktik amma :)...Hellal olsun Enver , Talat pasa...
yapalli83 6 days ago
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Khachakirner1992 6 days ago
@yapalli83 its not funny at all when your ancestors lived a savage life in central Asia we Armenians speak few languages all the time from very ancient time ! now i speak Turkish plus few other languages and i know your Koran better then your imam i can spay ,i can enter your fucking country fuck your sister and become your brother in law that's the differences between Turks and Armenians , you guys are stupid and sick all the time just like you ,is your mom and dad cousins how about your wife
Khachakirner1992 6 days ago
@Khachakirner1992 and you,armenian,call us savages?check your comment again to see who is savage or racist.
jeahdude37 2 days ago
@jeahdude37 and what should i call a nation who committed genocide by killing a nation ? Turkey guilty of many genocide Armenians Greeks Assyrians !!
all Turks savages barbarians cock suckers fuck you all !
Khachakirner1992 1 day ago
@Khachakirner1992 emperor dikran built great armenian empire right?how did he built empire?you think he threw flowers and chocolates to conquer lands???he also shed blood to conquer.greeks also shed blood to gain more lands.every strong nations shed blood to gain more lands.and you say turks are barbarians.you are brain-washed by propagands sadly.
if turks are barbarians because they killed people so all nations are barbarians.what a biased mind you have..
jeahdude37 1 day ago
@jeahdude37 FUCK YOU IGNORANT MOTHER FUCKER SUCK THE DICK OF KING DIKRAN !! GO BACK TO MONGOLIA !!!!!!!!
Khachakirner1992 1 day ago
@jeahdude37 SENIN MUHHAMEDINI ATATURKUNU SIKIM !!! FUCK THE BEST TURK OF THE WORLD !! EN ORUSPU TURK ATATURK !!
Khachakirner1992 1 day ago
@yapalli83 THIS IS THE TRUE FACE OH YOU BARBARIANS
Hye4Life1818 4 days ago
@Hye4Life1818 ....meeeh meeeeh dont cry little boy/girl whatever you are
yapalli83 4 days ago
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@yapalli83 TURKS A NATION OF WHORES FUCK ATA-DOG FUCK EVERY VALUE THAT TURKS HAVE FUCK YOUR GOD !
TurkunAllahiniSikim 1 day ago
Ottoman Turks killed Armenians not only because they weren't on their side but cuz they were Armenians and Christians and they were so deep with their believe. Y did they didn't touch those that had changed their religion I know that these days there r a lot of Muslim Armenians living I turkey, actually they were forced to change
Mooneyereone 1 week ago
@Mooneyereone ''...coz they werent not turks' side'' they never been in our side.armenian population were exempted of being soldier and they paid extra taxes to not going army training.so they were already not in our side in wars.
armenians were always christians but turks didnt kill them and let them live freely in ottoman empire.they even have more priveleges than any other foreign nation.we were ok with their religion all the time otherwise we would extermiante them all am i right?
jeahdude37 1 week ago
the turks have learnt nothing since their ottoman days invaded eastern europe treated the greeks and serbs and bulgarians like shit :)
ForestSuper 1 week ago
Look at to the History.
From a Turk...
Hakanboxer 1 week ago
U r right they were. Ottomans took everything their lives, wealth and motherland. There is no logic what u've said if everything was so perfect why Armenians lost everything
Mooneyereone 2 weeks ago
@Mooneyereone armenians had more privileges then any other foreign nations but they also wanted an independant country of their own.after the french revolution nationalism spreaded in the world.armenians were one of them.they rebelled against ottomans during and before ww1.do u think its logical to waste money,time and man-power to setup a deportation while ottomans needed both money,time and man-power??we had reasons to deport them.
oh btw armenians in west anatolia stood still
jeahdude37 2 weeks ago
@Mooneyereone only armenians in east have been deported.rich armenians which most of them living in west didnt get deported as well.in east anatolia many armenians joined to armenian gangs groups.some of them forced to join some of them volunteerly.
nontheless deportation was a need to prevent empire to collapse.
u armenians also should remember what have u done to ottoman turks.u should also remember what was the reason of deportation.you were not innocent at all,you deserved to be deported
jeahdude37 2 weeks ago
So simple young turks: "panislamism and pantirkism". Turkey without any christian or any ethnicity, they were looking for help because they couldn't just live in the environment with do high taxes, discrimination and killings that were going on that days
Mooneyereone 2 weeks ago
@Mooneyereone armenians were the richest people in ottomans.they paid less taxes then any other foreign nation in the empire.there were also armenian governers and you say they were living under bad conditions?spread your lies somewhere else please.
jeahdude37 2 weeks ago
There was no reason for the Ottoman Empire to exterminate the Armenians. Many Armenians were in the Ottoman army, but thousands of them deserted the army to join the ARF (Armenian Revolutionary Federation), they took the Ottoman guns with them. Why would the Ottoman army, fighting World War I and LOSING on 3 different war fronts, spend time, money, and effort to kill Armenians when it needs more recruits to kill the Allies?
ArchitectureZ 2 weeks ago
Most historians don't accept the genocide, just because you make this claim doesn't make it true. The only true historians I know that accept the Armenian Genocide, are Armenian themselves. If there are a lot of Armenian historians, that doesn't prove anything, because there are tons of Turkish historians who would disagree. It's safe to assume, that both Turkish and Armenian historians are biased. However, if we look at non-Turkish and non-Armenian historians, most agree there was NO genocide.
ArchitectureZ 2 weeks ago
Good job france!
5055672439 2 weeks ago
As an American, I find this bill to be ridiculous. Even though denying the Armenian Genocide is stupid, I think there being a law that forbids you to do so is even more stupid. I'm of Ashkenazi Jewish decent, but I sure as hell don't want a law that forbids Holocaust denial. Just let the paranoid racist idiots be paranoid racist idiots. How will this even be enforced?
sketchbookessay 2 weeks ago
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REAL HISTORY;
1821<1890<1915
1821 = GREECE GOT FREEDOM
1890 = ARMENIAN REBEL ARMY FOUNDED IN TIFLIS CALLED DASHNAKSUTIUN
1915 = ARMENIAN LEADERS ARRESTED BY OTTOMANS
00thelastottoman00 2 weeks ago
It is very revealing that non of those people who accept the Turkish state sponsored narative of genocide denial, have anything good to say about the world or humanity. There is an unholy alliance that exist between the Turkish state, their so called "respectable historians" and all manner of racist, white supremacist, social darwinist forces who identify with the Armenian genocide as the triumph of the strong over the weak in order to furnish their perverted world views. How predictable...
tolgarupture 2 weeks ago
@notsobraveheartonur1980 "..Anyway ıf we want genocide,you would not be commenting here.."
Threats aside, this is an Interesting logic. (Genocide = No Survivors) (Survivors = No Genocide) And I'm not even an Armenian LOL. So who is this "we" then? The spent forces of the old Ottoman empire? The foot soldiers of the AKP led fascist regime of Turkey lining up to sacrifice their lives in the service of their US masters for their Greater Middleastern Project? AWAY WITH ALL GOSTS!
tolgarupture 2 weeks ago
Muslims, as you so ignorantly chose to describe them, did not die for their own freedom. They died for the interests of the Ottoman/ JonTurk elite and their German Imperial masters. Armenian nation was under no obligation to remain loyal to the Ottoman empire. Their only obligation as an opressed nation was to demand and fight for their independence. You try to deny the genocide then you try to justify it. You deny it because it offends your fucked up sense of who you are. Why am I bothering..
tolgarupture 2 weeks ago
@notsobraveheartonur1980
Fascism is not good for people. It makes them sick and takes away their humanity. Either you haven't read what I have been writing or you haven't understood any of it. What has your 2 million muslim deaths during WW1 got anything to do with the question as to whether or not a genocide had been committed against the Armenians? Are you saying that the Armenians deserved it? Why focus on peoples' religion?
tolgarupture 2 weeks ago
haha good job france!! fuck turkGAY
tyr0n8 3 weeks ago
Sarkozy is my Hero!
algripol 3 weeks ago
Sarkozy is my Hero!
algripol 3 weeks ago
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SWITTYYA 3 weeks ago
QUESTION TO ASS HOLE ARMENIANS:
WHAT DO YOU GAIN OF BEING ACCEPTED THAT TURKISH FUCKED YOU?
NO NEED TO PROOF THAT YOU ARE BITCHES, WHOLE THE WORLD KNOWS IT!
QUESTION TO FRENCH:
WHAT IS YOUR PROFIT TO LIMIT THE HUMAN RIGHTS, FREE THINKING RIGHTS OF FRENCH PEOPLE ACCEPTING SUCH A FUNNY AND MEANINGLESS LAW?
IT SHOWS AGAIN THAT, IN EUROPE THE MOST STUPID COUNTRY IS FRANCE, YOU HAVE TO LEARN MORE FROM ENGLAND, GERMANY, ITALY, SPAIN AND OTHERS, FRANCE IS FAMOUS WITH IT'S BLOW JOB MAKERS..
FUCKhayastan 3 weeks ago
GENOCİDE WİLL DECAY ABOUT 5 OR 10 YEAR, everybody MOST HİSTORİANS KNOW THAT THOSE EVENTS CANT BE ACCEPTED AS GENOCİDE and I will respect FRANCE DECİSİON, IF FRANCE WİLL RESPECT KHOJALY GENOCİDE.Historians know that Karabagh always belongs to Azerbaijan. In soviets too, and without reason occupy those lands, killed unhumanly woman, children ARMENİANS ARE WİLD NATİON, WAKE UP WORLD STOP SUPPORT ANİMALS(armenians)
Tural192 3 weeks ago
VIVA LA FRANCE VIVA LA ARMENIE
stella8973 3 weeks ago
MERCI BIEN FRANCE
stella8973 3 weeks ago
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SEE THE REAL GENOCIDE MADE BY armenians AT KHOJALY.ORG !
THIS IS 100% A POLITICAL ISSUE, IS IT WAS A REAL GENOCIDE BY TURKISH, NOW YOU COULDN'T FIND ANY armenian asshole, BECAUSE TURKISH WOULD KILL THEM ALL!
FUCKhayastan 3 weeks ago
@FUCKhayastan absolutaly agree!!
Tural192 3 weeks ago
VIVA LA FRANCE VIVA L'ARMENIE VIVA LA WORLD
ArtFine1 3 weeks ago
Why is Turkey saying that what France did is wrong because it violates the "freedom of speech right" but Turkey has made it a crime to aknowledge the Armenian Genocide under article 301, So isn't that also violation of "freedom of speech"? Turkey has comitted a genocide and that's not questionable. From the time when the Genocide was taking place, diplomats and politicians were saying that a systematic murder of the Armenians is taking place, so Turkey should stop lying and face its history.
LeopardGlobe 3 weeks ago
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Tural192 3 weeks ago
@LeopardGlobe first of all Turkey hasnt comitted a genocide, propogandist armenians fucked your brain too, second most historians didnt accept those events as genocide, If France was fair then they must accept Khojaly Massacre, even asshole Serj Sarkisyan accepted Khojaly events as genocide..And If your braint cant work bilateral, then at least do not post here unlogical things!
Tural192 3 weeks ago
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what the fuck ıs EU just LMAO or Fucking gay LoL....fuck EU....EU have a nice pussy thats all.
saadafgan1 3 weeks ago
Every time when any country or individuals trying to do something for the recognition of the Armenian genocide your government in charge they attack those by different ways and by different methods or just terrorizing by saying that they gonna cut all relationships between those r u familiar with those types of things
Mooneyereone 3 weeks ago
Armenian land always was in crosswords of European, African and Asian civilizations and keep this region in peace such hard job cause there always were wars and did u read history books at all just writing down for reason u know let's try this too.
Mooneyereone 3 weeks ago
Don't be funny u trying to pass things by pointing out not logical reasons why cause we r living in the area so- called business world a lot of countries have good business deals with turkey and do not want to lose those how many times turkish government attacked USA using Iraq war and ur pointing Armenian lobby
Mooneyereone 3 weeks ago
Turkey is Guilty of Armenian Genocide !!!
iHye1 3 weeks ago
@iHye1 YESTERDAY I FUCKED YOUR MOTHER, NO NEED PROVE, HİSTORY, REASON... MY BROTHERS, EVEN ONE OF YOUR MOM'S TİTS SUPPORT ME TOO...so who will deny I fucked your mother, he will pay me 2500$..this is simple explanation of so called armenian genocide situation..
Tural192 3 weeks ago
@Tural192 YOUR A PIECE OF SHIT BRAIN DEAD TURK SO EVEN IF I SPIT ON YOUR FACE, YOU WOULD SAY IT'S RAINING !!!!!
SUPERFUCKAZERIS 3 weeks ago
@SUPERFUCKAZERIS slow down, take it easy champ ;) come on..comme onnn to me, bring your mother and your fatherss, I jusss..I juss wannahhh play wizz your momma, juss wannah fuck your mommma, you kno, just wannah fuck your mother..siiisssser, you kno...sisterr, den I jus wannah fuck yo sisser..dad's all..))) For you IQ, I decreased my level fore a short period of time.. cuzze you are against of FAİR HİSTORY, you are ıgnorants..FUCK YOU AND YOUR GOVERNMENT!!!
Tural192 3 weeks ago
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"The reality is that there is no more Armenian presence in Anatolia, where they used to live for the past 3,000 years," Gengiz Aktar. turkish scholar.
Oran Pamuk is a turkish novelist and a Nobel Prize winner. google him or search on youtube regarding history between turkey and Armenians
filmodee 3 weeks ago
Like videotape, the records of secret cameras lol the whole world isn't enough for them only blind genes
Mooneyereone 3 weeks ago
for tickets that'll take to real heaven
Mooneyere1 3 weeks ago
RECOGNIZE THE ARMENIAN GENOCIDE!!!
MrArmenian10 3 weeks ago
@MrArmenian10 why recognize an unproven genocide?
jeahdude37 3 weeks ago
@jeahdude37 there is proof! we have photos, documantaries even a museum what other proof do you need?????
MrArmenian10 3 weeks ago
@MrArmenian10 many of those photos are blong to other massacres some of them are real.documentaries based on your so-called diaspora's propagand can not be taken as evidence.
real proofs must be the documents,signed orders by generals in those years,telegrams,DNA tests etc..we turks also have photos that armenian murdered turks we also have witnesses that armenians killed turks and there are also russian documents that proves armenians murdering turks.
jeahdude37 3 weeks ago
@MrArmenian10 and if this genocide was proven like jewish holocaust,there would be no one denying it.not only turks deny the so-called armenian genocide but also many professors,scholars and historian all aorund the world strongly denies it with proofs.
your propagand delays the truth only.
jeahdude37 3 weeks ago
@jeahdude37 Many professors scholars and historian all around the world deny the jewish holocaust calling it lie or a conspirancy. They also think that, as you are saying, that "they are strongly denying it with proofs".
Btw, we are not saying that nowadays Turkey has commited any genocide. What we are saying is that Ottoman Empire has done so. Actually, we don't care that much about you as you seem to think.
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edcboatman 3 weeks ago
Blind genes vs strong facts
Mooneyereone 3 weeks ago
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FRANCE IS TO FACED. FRENCH TROOPS KILLED 45.000 IN ALGERIA AND 800.000 KILLED IN RUWANDA. NOW THEY TALKING ABOUT ARMENIAN GENECIDE. WHAT A MOTHER FUCKER YOU ARE MR SARKOZY THE SHIT.
MegaSahmaran 3 weeks ago
Who call u here little looser, low life turkik azerik go wash ur mouth before saying something about Armenians u came here 2 proof ur low IQ level and ur bathroom talk with those types of nonsense sentences u can't amazed smart and educated people u think it's cool learned few bath words and cool just showing ur simple brain
Mooneyereone 4 weeks ago
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ONE MORE THING WHY DO YOU THINK FRANCE ACCEPT THE LAW ABAOUT FAKE ARMENIAN GENOCIDE I CAN TELL YOU THAT TO BECOUSE SON OF A BITCH SARKOZY WILL WON THE FUCKING STUPID FRENCH ELECTIONS AND HE NEED PIG ARMENIAN VOTE . WHY DID HE EARLIER THIS LAW ENACTED ??? HE ONLY THINK TO GET THE ARMENIAN VOTE THATS ALL STUPID ASSHOLE AND REMEMBER FRANCE MASCARE IN ALGERIA AND RWANDA KILLD AND RAPED THERE
MegaSahmaran 4 weeks ago
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YOU FUCKING STUPID ASSHOLE TELL ME WHO MASCARE IN AZARBAJAN WHO KILLED INNOCENT AZERIS CIVILIAN WOMEN AND CHILDREN PERSECUTED WAY I CAN TELL YOU MOTHER FUCKER SOON OF A BITCH IT WAS TERRORIST ARMENIAN PIGS . WITH YOUR LIES ABOUT FAKE ARMENIAN GENOCIDE DO YOU THINK YOU CAN SUPPOSED THE WORLD DO YOU THINK WE HAVE FORGET OR FORGIVE YOUR CRIMES WAS THAT ALSO FOR DEFENSE YOUR SHIT ARMENIAN COUNTRY
MegaSahmaran 4 weeks ago
let's put the 'jewish holocaust' in quotes too on your stories about that, why don't you try.
Varangian1915 4 weeks ago
Funny! As I said before, all history books of the countries who had been occupied by the turks, share the same thing: "Turks did countless massacres of Christians!"... Bulgarians, Greeks, Serbians, Romanians, Armenians will confirm that. The whole world is recognizing the Armenian genocide, in France it's denial is even a criminal offense. To all this turks say: "you are wrong, we are right". Indeed, the world is wrong, only they are right! =))) Old ottoman habits die hard!
tsalyuge 4 weeks ago
@tsalyuge turks did countless massacres on christians?you are damn right about this but why dont you mention what christians do agains turks,muslims or any nation around the world?aaah ok because you christians are angles from heaven you are just too good for murdering
massacring is something else,genocide is something else.do not twist the words stop misusing and exaggerating the term ''genocide''
jeahdude37 4 weeks ago
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tsalyuge 3 weeks ago
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@jeahdude37 First of all, I don't know of any massacres committed by Bulgarians, and for the Christian nations who had done such atrocities we are not taking any responsibility. And yes, I know very well the difference between a massacre and a genocide, and that's why I said "countless massacres" because that leads to a genocide! Capiche? Also, turks didnt massacre Christians only, but Muslims as well - Kurds can say more about it!
tsalyuge 3 weeks ago
Only killers can respect bloody history of murders and please no one isn't u so respect 20 countries, organizations, 45 states out of 50, individuals, all those is no one for u
Mooneyereone 4 weeks ago
The generation had changed young turks wanted to have turkey without any Christian there, "panislamism and pantirkism" was there desire so do not even try to put all this dirt on us they didn't needed us and when people do not need something they just throw away but killed
Mooneyereone 4 weeks ago
World is gonna believe unproven genocide!! Only politicians talk about this. AND SARKOZY İS GETTİNG HİS PUBLİC LOVE AGAİN!! Go find KHOJALY MASSACRE made by armenians just 20 year ago with certain proofs, including hundreds photos, tens videolents!!! Stop abuse turks, go abuse germans..Turks didnt made genocide, GENOCİDE İS JUST POLİTİCAL ATTACK TO TURKEY, that's why Turks will boycott France!!!
Tural192 4 weeks ago
The way t u talk all about this is giving people chance to think that ur export in those lol and have huge experience and knowledge of those types of think lol low level of thinking and low IQ very Low
Mooneyereone 4 weeks ago
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France Population are:
Turks: 600.000
Armenians: 500.00
Turks claim sarkozy did this vote the bigest lie ever there lvie more turks in france than armenians.
What sarkozy did is onlly made the genocide bill the senate has accepted the bill its not sarkozy its the france desision it self
HayDavo5 4 weeks ago
FUCK THE ARMENIAN
MegaSahmaran 4 weeks ago
ARMENIAN ARE MURDER MURDER MURDER MURDER AND ARE GUILTY FOR MASCARE IN KARABAH AZARBAIJAN ARMENIAN TERRORITS KILLD INNOCENT WOMEN AND CHILDREN IN KARABAH AT BEGINING OF 1990 AND STILL KARABH IS ON THE OCUPATION OF ARMENIAN TERRORITS
MegaSahmaran 4 weeks ago
HayDavo5 4 weeks ago
@MegaSahmaran Azerbaijan which ahs lots of oil and money wich alqaide suported azerbaijan and russia first gave azerbaijan lots of money at the beginingen
Azerbaijan army 50.000 men
Armenian 25.000 men
Azerbaijan tanks plains weapons evrythig artelarty
Armenians: Only rebelion with ak 47
No Azerbaijan before 1918
Karabakh ahs never been in azerbaijan look at the roman persian greece history maps and storys
Azerbaijani land is albania
Azerbaijn creates larj scale of propaganda
HayDavo5 4 weeks ago
@HayDavo5 Azerbaijan started the murders and the war
HayDavo5 4 weeks ago
ARMENIAN GENOCIDE IS FAKE IT NEVER HAPPEN BUT THE ARMENIAN DOING WELL JOB WITH THE GENOCIDE LIE deceiving the whole world WIDE WITH PROPOGANDA
MegaSahmaran 4 weeks ago
fuck you self soon of the bitch
you armenian are piece of shit armenian are murder
do you want evidence ? than look at all the turkish diplomats who killed by asala terror orginasation just watch how you shit armenian mascare women and children in karabah azarbaijan ok in the meantime you can fuck you self soon of the bitch
MegaSahmaran 4 weeks ago
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Hitler said to his generals on the eve of sending his Death's Heads units into Poland, "Go, kill without mercy . . . who today remembers the annihilation of the Armenians."
Mooneyere1 4 weeks ago
FACT SHEET: ARMENIAN GENOCIDE
The University of Michigan
Mooneyere1 4 weeks ago
Armenians all over the world commemorate this great tragedy on April 24, because it was on that day in 1915 when 300 Armenian leaders, writers, thinkers and professionals in Constantinople (present day Istanbul) were rounded up, deported and killed. Also on that day in Constantinople, 5,000 of the poorest Armenians were butchered in the streets and in their homes.
Mooneyere1 4 weeks ago
The Armenian Genocide was carried out by the "Young Turk" government of the Ottoman Empire in 1915-1916 (with subsidiaries to 1922-23). One and a half million Armenians were killed, out of a total of two and a half million Armenians in the Ottoman Empire.
Most Armenians in America are children or grandchildren of the survivors, although there are still many survivors amongst us.
Armenians all over the world commemorate this great tragedy on April 24,
Mooneyere1 4 weeks ago
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As a Turkish person I can only assume that the great majority of oldinary Armenians simply want their pain and suffering to be recognised.
tolgarupture 4 weeks ago
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In the last hundred years I have not been aware of any legal proceeding in Turkey involving any of the descendants of the victims of the Armenian genocide making any finantial claims in respect of assets or property that had been lost by their forefathers during the genocide. With high ranking international lawyers at their disposal, the Armenians could have easily flooded the Turkish courts had they wanted to do so. Why has this not happened? (cont..).
tolgarupture 4 weeks ago
...What we are experiencing here is not a civilised state of affairs on a global scale by any strech of imagination. Yet, in terms of this debate, what matters for the descendants of the victims of the Armenian genocide as well as for the humanity as a whole, is for the Turkish people to acknowledge the Armenian genocide and the pain that it has caused to countless men, women and children. I believe this would mean a lot.
tolgarupture 4 weeks ago
Neither the vote by the French Imperialists nor the current opposition to it has any credibility. Humanity has not yet reached a stage in its historical development whereby it can truly rupture from the ghosts of its past. Formal laws may act as a deterrent only in a limited sense. They do not, in themselves, transform peoples understanding. For that to happen we'll need to dare to change the world!
tolgarupture 4 weeks ago
AND THIS IS ONLY THE BEGINNING!
VIVE LA FRANCE!
VIVE L'EUROPE!
vanstraten11 4 weeks ago 5
this means no turkish access to EU. that means cleaner Europe. (no dirt)
techzoneify123 4 weeks ago
@techzoneify123 you have enough dirt like greece
braveheartonur1980 2 weeks ago
Ottoman Empire = EVIL! Learn History and you'll see what they did to so many!!!
Bravo France!
leptiriccanak 4 weeks ago 3
Go France! Ottoman Empire's crimes against humanity must be acknowledged!
MariRariGari 4 weeks ago 7
@MariRariGari
You have to be thankfull to ottoman because he did not fuck your granny. and grand pa..
Armo Bitch
ebaturan 3 weeks ago
Why is France the only country to outlaw the autrocities committed by the Ottoman Empire to so many!? Other countries should follow suit! Kudos to France, though! Great news!
teramedatera 4 weeks ago 8
I've never been more proud to be FRENCH! Bravo FRANCE! VIVE LA FRANCE! VIVE LA JUSTICE!
smrtonosnomozedoba 4 weeks ago 6
I must say, bravo France!
UljezMiSe 4 weeks ago 4
Congratulations France! Bravo!
tricajeveca 4 weeks ago 10
Ottoman Empire (Turkey) MUST admit to its horrendous crimes not only against Armenia, but against so many other nations and countries! France is doing the right thing! No more denial! No more lies! No more silence!
oppppppppppppppooooo 4 weeks ago 8
Bravo!
Ainsiquenon23 4 weeks ago 14
B R A V OOOO FRANCE!
TheDiana9999999 4 weeks ago 5
Bravo France! Finally exposing Ottoman Empire's crimes that went on for centuries!
sudbonosnodane 4 weeks ago 10
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@sudbonosnodane FRANCE IS TO FACED. FRENCH TROOPS KILLED 45.000 IN ALGERIA AND 800.000 KILLED IN RUWANDA. NOW THEY TALKING ABOUT ARMENIAN GENECIDE. WHAT A MOTHER FUCKER YOU ARE MR SARKOZY THE SHIT.
MegaSahmaran 3 weeks ago
Bravo France! Impressive!
misantrophe1991 4 weeks ago 8
Hahahaa fuck you turks, finaly!
jepremjan111 4 weeks ago 15
@jepremjan111 STUPID MOTHER FUCKER IDIOT SOON OF A BITCH FOR WHAT ARE YOU HAPPY ? IS IT BECOUSE YOU PIGG TERRORITS ARMENIAN KILLD MANY TURKISH DIPLOMATS BY ASALA TERROR ORGINASATION OR IS IT BECOUSE FRENCE MASCARE INNOCENT CIVILIAN IN ALGERIA YOU COCK SUCKER WE ALSO NOT FORGET HOW YOU PIGG ARMENIAN TERRORITS MASCARE IN KARABAH AZARBAJAN WOMEN AND CHILDREN YOU STUPID ASSHOLE ARMENIAN CAN LIE WITH YOU FAKE GENOCIDE PROPOGANDA FOR THE FUCKING FRENCH ANIMALS BUD WE KNOW WHAT IS THRU
MegaSahmaran 4 weeks ago
@jepremjan111 AND DO YOU THINK FRENCH DID ACCEPT THIS LAW BECOUSE THEY LIKE PIGG AND TERRORITS ARMENIAN NO NO NO I CAN TELL YOU STUPID ASSHOLE ITS FOR THE VOTE AND EVERYBODY KNOW THAT IN THIS WORLD BUD ANYWAY COCK SUCKER SARKOZY WILL ANYWAY LOSE THE FRENCH ELECTIONS
MegaSahmaran 4 weeks ago
@MegaSahmaran hahahah you mad, little turkihs dickhead, umad as a motherfocker hahah, every word you said you know is not true, accept the truth turk accept it, bite down on it !
jepremjan111 3 weeks ago
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@jepremjan111 FRANCE IS TO FACED. FRENCH TROOPS KILLED 45.000 IN ALGERIA AND 800.000 KILLED IN RUWANDA. NOW THEY TALKING ABOUT ARMENIAN GENECIDE. WHAT A MOTHER FUCKER YOU ARE MR SARKOZY THE SHIT.
MegaSahmaran 3 weeks ago
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Daud Kheyriyan, ARMENİAN JOURNALİST said in his book "For the Sake of Cross" (page 62-63): One ARMENİAN GROUP, brought 100 azeri dead to 1 kilometer from Khojaly, some of them were live just in a big car one azeri girl about 10 year old was breathing forcibly, then armenian soldier TİGRASYAN came catched her threw to other azeri deads then burned them! So It is Khojaly genocide, WAKE UP WORLD, If france was fair had to agree Khojaly Genocide!!!
Tural192 4 weeks ago
Who is brave for u? There r so many countries out there that didn't recognize the Armenian genocide and no single one haven't said yet that we hate them so please be honest and talk only from name of u and your country all isn't u
Mooneyereone 4 weeks ago
@Mooneyereone bravery is a term which i cant actually find a definiton myself.this is something else.
many countries did not recognize genocide and you dont hate them all.you trying to twist my words or you didnt understand me at all.let me explain ;
-if some country accept it as a law you love them so badly and they instantly become a paragon of integrity and human right.
-you neither love nor hate any neutral countries about this issue
-you deeply hate any country or person who denies it
jeahdude37 4 weeks ago
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ERDOGAN: ..''to be a friend of turks is a honor, and even to be an enemy of turks is honor aswell, but we will not even give them this honor..''... armenians lived more than 600 years in ottoman empire, no body killed them, but somehow someone killed them all (!), WHY? why a lion kills ants, think at least 5 times before lying you superbrains..
MrVertigolu 4 weeks ago
better late than never
machinationu 4 weeks ago
Tolgaeupture u did deserve to be respected and I respect u God bless u and thank u
Mooneyereone 1 month ago
@Mooneyere1
My comments were not directed specifically at you but to @utkusarioglu and others who fail to question the official line in Turkey. I am challenging those who deny the armenian genocide. We will not let the imperialists dictate the terms of this debate....
tolgarupture 1 month ago
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All your national, social, spiritual values that had been built around this edifice constructed around lies, distortions and fabrications is rotting away like a stinking cadaver. What will you do? INVESTIGATE? Try and reclaimyour humanity? This is not about the French imperialists and their geo-political games.Imperialist have no right to speak on thisissue. This is about You.
tolgarupture 1 month ago
The whole edifice of official turkish history, everything you have been taught and once believed in, is crumbling before your eyes.
tolgarupture 1 month ago
NOT AT ALL WE'V HEARD A LOT OF THOSE BUT IT DOESN'T CHANGE SOMETHING JUST BECAUSE OF THAT U WANT FROM US TO SAY THAT IT DIDN'T HAPPEND, THAT'S UR SUGGESTION
Mooneyere1 1 month ago
Now...I hope that satistisfies your curiosity. (c) especially was written with the Armenian genocide in mind. The one thing that may possibly save your honour is the fact that there were few brave individuals both Turkish and Kurdish, who risked their lives and the lives of their family members by sheltering their Armenian neighbours, but their stories are being missed in all this...
NO INVESTIGATION NO RIGHT TO SPEAK!
tolgarupture 1 month ago
@tolgarupture idiot you don't know conditions. 2 million muslim died from starvation and diseases during ww1.We didn't starve armenians deliberately.Anyway ıf we want genocide,you would not be commenting here so first learn "real" facts not your facts then we you can comment.
braveheartonur1980 2 weeks ago
(a) Killing members of the group;
(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
(c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
(e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group."
tolgarupture 1 month ago
The meaning of Genocide:
The international legal definition of the crime of genocide is found in Articles II and III of the 1948 Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of Genocide:
"Article II: In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:
tolgarupture 1 month ago
As much as I know I'm not gonna kill someone because of his religion, ethnicity or just because I do not need him anymore that's my human right. Urs?
Mooneyereone 1 month ago
No only u know lol turks-human rights human rights- turks we did kill 1.5 mln Turks, took ur homeland, killed ur grandmoms and ur granddads , ur siblings etc, don't be funny
Mooneyereone 1 month ago
Armowings they must must must there is no other way if they want close their eyes and walk away that is their problem we'll never forget and forgive 1.5 mln and Hrant's death
Mooneyereone 1 month ago
Yes gens r stronger that facts sorry can say only brave and civil people
Mooneyereone 1 month ago
We all r human beings and r not perfect nobody is perfect but there r very brave ones that gonna say sorry I accept that I've done a terrible things I am sorry simple word sorry
Mooneyereone 1 month ago
@Mooneyereone Turks need to start realizing that they have had dark chapters in their history...just like you said. I don't see what is so hard about that. I also have a Turkish friend who knows what happened and knows the truth.
ArmoWings 1 month ago
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Does anyone in the page know the meaning of the term genocide? If we call every single nation responsible with genocide and every conflict call as genocide we will just diminish what Jewish people had to face during second world war.
TheClementbaan 1 month ago
ARMENİAN GENOCİDE WAS RECOGNİSED BY POLİTİCİANS NOW THE TİME RECOGNİTİON BY HİSTORİANS no no..no..no historians,or genocide will be decay!!!
Tural192 1 month ago
@Tural192 It has already been recognized by famous historians and there is signifcant evidence that points to genocide by the Turks.
ArmoWings 1 month ago
@ArmoWings There historians see its as genocide and there are historians see it as massacres, either way parliements are not the right places to decide history. We all know France did it for the elections.
TheClementbaan 1 month ago